Linux-Misc Digest #27, Volume #28 Mon, 4 Jun 01 07:13:04 EDT
Contents:
How to set Date/Time zone on Linux? ("Digital Rider")
Re: Most frustrating experience ever... (MH)
Re: How to set Date/Time zone on Linux? (John Taylor)
accounting dies after upgrading to redhat 7.1 (Farid Hamjavar)
What are these kernel files for? Do I need them? ("Tom Edelbrok")
Re: restric telnet access. ("green")
Re: Apache question (Lamar Thomas)
Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How? (uzon)
Re: Free space ("Peet Grobler")
Re: /dev on vfat partition ("Moshe Samuel")
Re: How to get the distribution name/version (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Q: supporting Debian, FSF, EFF, etc.? (Colin)
Open ports seen with nmap - Security risk? (Mordak)
Is www.tuxgames.com down? (Mordak)
Re: portmap (Ransom)
Re: Setiathome ("eljayh")
Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How? (Michael Heiming)
Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How? (Michael Heiming)
Device controlling ("David Anderson")
Re: Device controlling (Michael Heiming)
Re: Setiathome ("Ben Guevremont")
Re: Ftape Dead in 2.4 Level Kernels? (Michael Heiming)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Digital Rider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How to set Date/Time zone on Linux?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:14:31 GMT
I tried to look at the previous postings but I couldn't find the
answer to this:
I am using Redhat 6.2 as the root user, I am trying to set the date
and the time zone on my machine using the "date" command, but I
could't find out how to set the time zone on my machine. I could
retrieve the GMT using "date -u", but that's about all I can get.
Also, I would like to know if there's any way for me to find out
what country and their counrty code my machine can regonize?
Thank you very much for your help.
Digital Rider
------------------------------
From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Most frustrating experience ever...
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:21:34 -0700
Dave Uhring wrote:
> MH wrote:
>
>> I have 3 boxen on a LAN each with different distro/version of Linux.
>> Originally, all boxes were configured with RH 6.0 and I was able to SEND
>> and RECEIVE mail messages on ALL boxen.
>>
>> I have since installed RH 7.1 and Progeny 1.0 and can no longer send AND
>> receive mail on ANY of the boxen except the RH 6.0 box. The box with RH
>> 7.1 can send but not receive. The box with Progeny 1.0 can receive but
>> not
>> send. I've spent several hours reading info pages and pouring over the
>> HOWTOs and still have not found anything appears to address the problem.
>> I've tried posting to NGs for an answer and have basically gotten no
>> response.
>>
>> Since I've heard that Postfix was easier to configure and manage, I
>> decided
>> to try and install it on the RH 7.1 box (Progeny box runs Postfix). Now
>> I can neither send nor receive on the RH 7.1 box!!!
>>
>> All installations except the latter were done using the default software
>> supplied by the distro (sendmail for RH, postfix for Progeny). In the
>> latter case, I installed postfix via RPM. All settings are default
>> settings.
>>
>> IS THERE A REASON THE LASTEST DISTROS SEEM TO HAVE DISABLED MAIL
>> SERVICES?
>>
>
> Yes, the earlier releases were so full of root holes that Red Hat finally
> got smart enough to release a secure version. RedHat-7.0 as released was
> easier to root than Windoze.
>
> Read the release notes on CD 1 to find out how to fix your problem.
>
>
Been there, done that. And as for Progeny and postfix?
--
I use GNU/Linux and support the Free Software Foundation. This message was
composed and transmitted using Free software, licensed under the General
Public License.
------------------------------
From: John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set Date/Time zone on Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:22:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.questions Digital Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I tried to look at the previous postings but I couldn't find the
: answer to this:
: I am using Redhat 6.2 as the root user, I am trying to set the date
: and the time zone on my machine using the "date" command, but I
: could't find out how to set the time zone on my machine. I could
: retrieve the GMT using "date -u", but that's about all I can get.
: Also, I would like to know if there's any way for me to find out
: what country and their counrty code my machine can regonize?
: Thank you very much for your help.
: Digital Rider
IIRC, try either timetool or timeconfig. To look for other time related programs, try
this:
rpm -qa | grep time (also grep for date)
On my Mandrake 8 system, this command returns:
time-1.7-17mdk
kdemultimedia-devel-2.1.1-5mdk
kdemultimedia-2.1.1-5mdk
To see what files are in the time rpm:
rpm -qil time-1.7-17mdk
which returns info about the files in this rpm.
--
John Taylor
Reply to:
john
at
giffords dot net
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farid Hamjavar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: accounting dies after upgrading to redhat 7.1
Date: 3 Jun 2001 22:17:47 -0600
redhat 7.1 on ibm netfinity smp
hello,
we recently upgraded one system from redhat 6.2 to redhat 7.1
2.4.2-2 #17 SMP Sun Jun 3 00:51:40 EDT 2001 i686 unknown
accounting (i.e. /sbin/accton) dies instantly after it is
started :
/sbin/accton /var/log/pacct
Then things are normal and records gets appended to /var/log/pacct
but after about 20 or 30 seconds /var/log/pacct stops growing all
together.
This started after upgrade.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Farid
------------------------------
From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What are these kernel files for? Do I need them?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:46:22 GMT
I am upgrading my Linux 6.0 Redhat kernel 2.2.5-15 to 2.2.14-5.0. Most of
the files go through rpm alright, but some don't. Perhaps I don't even need
them. Here is a list of all the kernel files that I found on my Linux 6.2
CD, and also an indication of which files worked under "rpm -i" and which
ones failed. Could anyone tell my why they fail or whether they might be
needed?
kernel-BOOT-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
This file didn't install when using rpm. It gave the message "error: failed
dependencies: kernel <= 2.2 conflicts with initscripts=4.16-1, (but my
kernel is presently 2.2.5-15!)
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
This file gives the error message " ... conflicts with file from package
kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.5-15" for a variety of files.
Do I have to uninstall the 2.2.5-15 kernel file and then install the
2.2.14-5.0 pcmica kernel file?
kernel-smp-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
Under rpm this file gives the message "error: failed dependencies: kernel <=
2.2 conflicts with initscripts-4.16-1", (but my kernel is presently
2.2.5-15!)
The following files installed fine under "rpm" ...
kernel-2.2.14-6.0.i686.rpm
kernel-doc-2.2.14-5.0-i386.rpm
kernel-headers-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
kernel-ibcs-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
kernel-source-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
kernel-utils-2.2.14-5.0.i386.rpm
kernelcfg-0.5-5.i386.rpm
Thanks for help,
Tom
------------------------------
From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: restric telnet access.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:02:16 +1000
Problem is in my distro it isn't disabled, and I use telnet to start startx
remotely.
sudoers is blank to.
will modify permissions on su though thanks for your help.
"nordi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9fd63v$4ha$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> green wrote:
>
> > I'm about to go live with a linux computer but I need to stop root
logins
> > and users accessing su through Telnet any suggestions?
>
> root logins via telnet are forbidden by default on every distro I've seen.
> If you want to stop users from accessing the su program, use the group
> "wheel". AFAIK it is used to controll access to the su/sudo program. Then
> do a "chown root.wheel /bin/su" and a "chmod 750 /bin/su" and only root
and
> members of the wheel group can run su anymore.
> Hint: disable telnet, it shouldn't be used except for secure environments
> or if you think that you are really secure. Even access as a normal user
> can be used to gain root.
>
> nordi
>
> --
> Linux - Less bugs for less bucks!
>
> Visit http://private.addcom.de/nordi
------------------------------
From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,redhat.config,redhat.networking.general,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Apache question
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 05:04:13 GMT
Lamar Thomas wrote:
> J Sloan wrote:
>
> > Lamar Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > I am running RH 7.1 and I have FTP and Apache web servers working.
> > > However, after rebooting my Linux box no one can connect to my Apache
> > > web server until I issue the following command: # "service httpd
> > > restart".
> >
> > In my experience with Linux, reboots are for hardware
> > upgrades, so we're talking about a once in a blue
> > moon thing here to start with -
> >
> > > Anyone know how I can make Apache auto start after a reboot? Thanks for
> > > any and all help.
> >
> > Any of the elementary Linux runlevel editors will do.
> >
> > ntsysv, tksysv, or even the command-line
> > utility, "chkconfig", e.g. "chkconfig --list httpd"
> >
> > cu
> >
> > jjs
>
> Thanks for the reply,
>
> But what did you mean by "Any of the elementary Linux runlevel editors will
> do. ntsysv, tksysv, or even the command-line utility, chkconfig, e.g.
> chkconfig --list httpd"? What am I supposed to do with all of that? Sorry,
> I am new to Linux.
>
> The reason I have to reboot is that I run one system at home that has a pull
> out drive. Most of the time I run Windows 2000. But as I am comming up to
> speed on Linux I have to put my Linux drive in. When I do, Apache is not
> running until I run the # "service httpd restart" command. Thanks again for
> any help.
>
> Lamar
I got it working! Thanks J Sloan.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uzon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How?
Date: 3 Jun 2001 22:04:54 -0700
wouldnt it be easier to take out the HD, put it in the linux box, copy
the files and put it back in the windows box? (theres also the
possibility of parallel/network cable)
------------------------------
From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: Free space
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 07:27:28 +0200
There's a mini-howto on saving spac, "Saving-Space.xxx".
It's only 34K, I can mail it for you, let me know. It describes how to free
up space on your system.
gajo wrote in message <9fe461$66g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>OK, the modprobe line didn't work, but with lsmod I got binfmt_aout 3728 0
and nothing more.
>But nevermind, I deleted the game cause I needed free space. Anyone can
tell me what files are
>unnecessary, like the ones in tmp, so that I could delete them and free up
some space?
>
>"fred smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > ZMAGIC is
an ancient binary format
>from Linux's pre-ELF days. They can
>> still be used IF you have the ancient libraries on your system and IF
>> you've got kernel support (direct or via module) for it.
>>
>> See if the command:
>>
>> modprobe binfmt_aout
>>
>> works (i.e., if it returns with no diagnostic). If so, you should be
>> able to do:
>>
>> lsmod
>>
>> and get results something like:
>>
>> Module Size Used by
>> ===> binfmt_aout 4196 0
>> ide-scsi 7272 0
>> lockd 31496 1 (autoclean)
>> sunrpc 53028 1 (autoclean) [lockd]
>> 3c509 5932 1 (autoclean)
>> nls_cp437 3876 4 (autoclean)
>> vfat 9276 2 (autoclean)
>> fat 30400 2 (autoclean) [vfat]
>> es1371 27264 0
>> soundcore 2628 4 [es1371]
>>
>> And if that works, try running the program again. If that works, well
>> now you know how to make it work. if not, then there's some additional
>> system service you are missing (possibly the ancient libraries needed
>> for the ancient binary).
>>
>> if all this doesn't make it work, you may find it helpful to try to
>> recompile the program (assuming you can get the source). It shold come
>> with some form of minimal docs on how to do that, commonly a file named
>> "INSTALL", or "README", or some such.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---- Fred Smith --
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
>> I can do all things through Christ
>> who strengthens me.
>> ------------------------------ Philippians
4:13 -------------------------------
>
>
------------------------------
From: "Moshe Samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev on vfat partition
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:49:05 -0500
RedHat 6.2 has an installation option to install on an already existing VFAT
partition. I haven't done it so I don't know how it works... but you might
want to try it and then work out how it is doing its tricks.
MoSam
Agent Smiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Just tried to move linux from ext2 to vfat partition. I
> solved problems with vfat driver with initrd. But damn linux
> tries to open initial console (|initctl, i think) before
> executing init. But I cannot store /dev in vfat nor can I
> mount it from file (cos init wasn't executed yet). Now I
> don't see init's messages and don't know why I don't get
> login.
>
> I think there is some info on inet, but cannot find it.
> There is umsdos, but it uses its own long names instead of
> vfat's. Thanks in advance for any help.
------------------------------
From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get the distribution name/version
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 05:44:36 GMT
Lee Webb wrote:
>
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:03:09 GMT, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> >>> I want to get the name/version of linux dist like
> >>> Red Hat 7.1; Red Hat 6.2 ,,,,,
> >>> Is there a command for this?
> >>> Where is the information stored?
> >>>
> >>I'm not sure how scientific this is, but does the following work for
> >>you?
> >>(i.e., I don't know if this'll work on EVERY distribution):
> >>
> >>dmesg | head -1 | awk -F '(' '{print $4}' | cut -d ')' -f 1
> >>
> >>Make use of the first line of dmesg and look for the distribution name.
> >
> > Well, my dmesg buffer has rolled over, and the first line now looks like
> > 78 S=0x00 I=2159 F=0x0000 T=103
> >
> > Anyway, I don't believe that the first line of dmesg (even in it's unrolled
> > state) consistantly reports the _distribution_. It likely only reports the
> > kernel version, and may report the distribution for certain distros only.
> >
> > AFAIK, there is no *consistant, generic* way to determine which distribution of
> > Linux you are using, other than to ask the person who installed it. Even then,
> > is Red Hat Linux 7.0 with an upgraded Apache server, ReiserFS root filesystem,
> > and DB2/UDB _still_ "Red Hat 7.0"? My belief is that it is not, and I couldn't
> > tell you what it should be called.
> >
>
> Fair point Lew.
>
> I don't want to drag this out but...
>
> How about using gcc? It has a various options which seems to give some
> info:
>
> [lee@colossus linux]$ gcc -dumpmachine
> i586-mandrake-linux
> [lee@colossus linux]$ gcc -v
> Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.96/specs
> gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Linux-Mandrake 8.0 2.96-0.48mdk)
Hey!! That's pretty good!!
The only catch I can think of is that this info comes from a gcc config
file (IIRC), and if you manually upgrade gcc, you replace that config
file. This means that the sysadm has to know to make the gcc config file
aware of the distribution, and _could_ rename it if s/he chooses.
> Also, there's the /etc/issue option, but you can't guarantee where the
> distribution name will be in it, nor if it hasn't been edited out
> completely...
Yes, same caveat.
> Lee.
It gets down to, once someone has performed any customization on a
distro, it might not be fair (or even possible) to call the resulting
system by the distro name. My server, for instance, started life as
Slackware 3.3 on a 486DX4/80, but since I've upgraded the CPU, the
kernel, and several utilities, and customized the life out of such
things as dial-on-demand, /etc/issue, firewalling, etc. the system can
only be called an 'evolved Slackware 3.3' at best.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Q: supporting Debian, FSF, EFF, etc.?
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Jun 2001 12:31:21 -0400
Mark Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a recommended yearly amount of money for
> end users to donate for using Debian's servers, etc.?
> I found the web site for Software in the Public Interest
> (www.spi-inc.org), and sent a check for a few dollars
> in Debian's name, but I was wondering how the finances
> of the Debian project are. Is sending them $5 or $10
> a year being way too cheap? (The value received is much
> higher, but how much money does Debian need to stay
> stable financially?)
My rule of thumb is that every time Debian releases a major version of
it's distribution, I order the CD's from a distributor and donate $10
towards Debian, even thought I have a high speed connection and could
get it over the Internet.
------------------------------
From: Mordak <linux*NO-SPAM*[email protected]>
Subject: Open ports seen with nmap - Security risk?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 07:23:36 GMT
I ran nmap on one of my machines that is running a SuSE personal firewall
with "reject all connections" at eth0 setup.
Here's the outcome:
Port State Service
22/tcp open ssh
37/tcp open time
515/tcp open printer
6000/tcp open X11
32768/tcp open unknown
1) How do I turn off the time at port 37? or should I worry.
2) Why is the printer listening at port 515 and is this a security risk?
3) What would be listining at port 32768 or how would I figure that out?
Thanks for any help,
Mordak
------------------------------
From: Mordak <linux*NO-SPAM*[email protected]>
Subject: Is www.tuxgames.com down?
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 07:34:03 GMT
Has anyone tried to access www.tuxgames.com lately? I ordered a game from
them and wanted to check the status of the order but the site is not there.
I tries a whois/arin lookup and no ip address was resolved. Strange huh?
Any ideas,
Mordak
------------------------------
From: Ransom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: portmap
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:40:16 +0200
On Sunday 03 June 2001 06:23 news1.sympatico.ca wrote:
> Odd. portmap is the first thing I *removed* from my redhat
> installatin as soon as I booted up.
> the long times may be due to dns lookups. put the ip-name pairs of
> your hosts into the hosts file.
>
>
<snip>
Do you run 'network', because that really seems to cause the
problem as Michael pointed out before. Without lo it works fine,
except that I need network for a couple of things I do, so I guess
I have to live with portmap.
Ransom
------------------------------
From: "eljayh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setiathome
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:12:18 +0800
Thomas Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:KhrS6.2526$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Newbie needs help!
> I need help installing Setiathome using Redhat 7.1 This is what I've
done.
> cp setiathome-3.03.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar to usr/local/src.
Next
> I changed to root and typed, tar xvf filename.tar. Then, using the comand
> line I typed xsetiathome and nothing happens.
> I would appreciate any assistance.
>
> Thank you,
> Tom
I know seti@home is trendy etc, but if you really want to do something
useful with your spare clock cycles, check out the yeti@ home project.
http://www.phobe.com/yeti/project.html
regards
LJH
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:21:10 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How?
ivorybones wrote:
>
> I want to move some files from my windows box to my linux box. Most are
> mp3's, and there a few jpegs. They will not fit on a single floppy.
>
> I can email them to myself, but that would involve uploading and
> downloading.
>
> I can rerip the mp3's, but that would take some time too.
>
> The easiest thing to do would be to split the files, copy them to
> floppies, bring them to the linux box, rejoin them.
>
> Can this be done?
>
> If so, what utilities do I need?
>
> Don
In addition to all those replies, the OP misses to give us some info.
However, he could use a null-modem cable to connect via serial,
and use the glorious M$ hyperterminal program to transfer the files,
sure the max speed is limited by the UARTs...
Michael Heiming
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:23:15 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move a large file from Windows to Linux - How?
ivorybones wrote:
>
> I want to move some files from my windows box to my linux box. Most are
> mp3's, and there a few jpegs. They will not fit on a single floppy.
>
> I can email them to myself, but that would involve uploading and
> downloading.
>
> I can rerip the mp3's, but that would take some time too.
>
> The easiest thing to do would be to split the files, copy them to
> floppies, bring them to the linux box, rejoin them.
>
> Can this be done?
>
> If so, what utilities do I need?
>
> Don
In addition to all those replies, the OP misses to give us some info.
However, he could use a null-modem cable to connect via serial,
and use the glorious M$ hyperterminal program to transfer the files,
sure the max speed is limited by the UARTs...
Michael Heiming
------------------------------
From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Device controlling
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:46:00 +0200
Reply-To: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have an old Compaq server w builtin SCSI, several hard disks and a DAT
autoloader installed. The autoloader isn't directly supported under linux,
so I'm wondering how to issue direct SCSI commands to a tape drive (commands
such as UNLOAD, EJECT), to write a control program.
Can you help?
Thanks in advance
David Anderson
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:58:53 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Device controlling
David Anderson wrote:
>
> I have an old Compaq server w builtin SCSI, several hard disks and a DAT
> autoloader installed.
What kind of Compaq machine, alpha server?
What kind of controller/DAT?
> The autoloader isn't directly supported under linux,
> so I'm wondering how to issue direct SCSI commands to a tape drive (commands
> such as UNLOAD, EJECT), to write a control program.
Did you try the "mt" command?
Michael Heiming
------------------------------
From: "Ben Guevremont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setiathome
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:01:07 GMT
Try ./xsetiathome
"Thomas Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:KhrS6.2526$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Newbie needs help!
> I need help installing Setiathome using Redhat 7.1 This is what I've
done.
> cp setiathome-3.03.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar to usr/local/src.
Next
> I changed to root and typed, tar xvf filename.tar. Then, using the comand
> line I typed xsetiathome and nothing happens.
> I would appreciate any assistance.
>
> Thank you,
> Tom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:07:02 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ftape Dead in 2.4 Level Kernels?
Jim wrote:
>
> I can't get ftape-4.04a to build with the 2.4.2 kernel, and the linux-tape
> discussion list seems to have been removed from vger.rutgers.edu.
>
> Anyone know of any solutions to either of these situations?
>
> If not, I guess I'll have to start tar'ing a compressed version of linux
> over to a windows partition, and copy it to tape as one file, with a
> verify pass for safety, for backups ...
>
> Jim
> remove not for email
Did you check:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/ftape.txt
for some hints?
Michael Heiming
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.misc.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
