Linux-Misc Digest #95, Volume #24                Mon, 10 Apr 00 00:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: lost+found (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Pjtg0707)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Pjtg0707)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Kevin)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Paul Lew)
  JCOM: 386-based PC MS-DOS terminal emulator
  Re: SCSI ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel compile bzImage error 2 (Markus Kossmann)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
  Sound Problem (bigbinc)
  apache "safe mode restriction" help needed ("Roy F. Cabaniss")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
  about share memory and semaphore ("Eddy")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Christopher Smith")
  How to setup a dumb terminal as console (Chan Yick Wai)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] ("Jim Ross")
  Re: Apache and PHP3 ("Roy F. Cabaniss")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: lost+found
Date: 9 Apr 2000 22:23:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dances With Crows wrote:
> When Bad Things happen to the filesystem, files and/or inodes can become
> detached from the main directory structure.  When e2fsck runs, it connects
> detached files/inodes under lost+found.  This is a safety feature.

The mklost+found(8) man page has the following interesting paragraph:

:       mklost+found  pre-allocates  disk blocks to the lost+found
:       directory so that when e2fsck(8) is being run to recover a
:       filesystem,  it  does  not  need to allocate blocks in the
:       filesystem to store a  large  number  of  unlinked  files.
:       This  ensures  that  e2fsck will not have to allocate data
:       blocks in the filesystem during recovery.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:23:55 GMT



Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
> A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?


So what the hell is Unix?

...or UCSD P-system (I've personally ported this one to an Atari ST).

...or   <fill in blanks here>



-- 
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/  FTB.

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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:29:17 GMT



Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
> Have you looked at the cost of upgrading MacOS?  it runs about $80 per
> *YEAR* per machine.

The cost of owning a computer is much more than the price
of the operating system and hardware.



-- 
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/  FTB.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:32:35 GMT

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:57:56 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>David Steuber wrote:
>> 
>> I can't think of a single innovation to come out of Microsoft.  Not
>> one.  Perhaps you can enlighten me as to Microsoft's most important
>> innovation?
>> 
>
>Clippie the dancing paper clip, and....
>
>.
Didn't Microsft played an important part in the development and deployment
of DHCP? I think I have to go back to look up the references, but I seemed
to recall Microsoft and others in the industry moved away from bootp
and developed DHCP to the wya it is today.

>
>.
>
>.
>
>
>...and I can't think of anything else.
>
>
>-- 
><\___/>
>/ O O \
>\_____/  FTB.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:35:26 GMT

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:23:55 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Christopher Smith wrote:
>> 
>> A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?
>
>
>So what the hell is Unix?
>
>...or UCSD P-system (I've personally ported this one to an Atari ST).
>
>...or   <fill in blanks here>
>

As I recall, there were WIndows NT versions that ran on the DEC 
Workstations, and I don't mean Alphas. In fact, there was a version 
of WIndows NT that actually ran on a VAX in its early days.

>
>
>-- 
><\___/>
>/ O O \
>\_____/  FTB.



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From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:39:06 GMT



Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
> "Kevin" wrote:
> >
> > Otto, don't you think it's odd that a large PC-manufacturing
> > company like IBM, who has their own operating systems, will
> > not sell you a PC without Windows on it?  IBM will not sell
> > you a PC that is pre-loaded exclusively with OS/2.  The best
> > you can get is OS/2 and Windows dual-boot.  There's something
> > wrong there IMHO, Otto.
> 
> That is merely another example of IBM's stupidity.  Even when OS/2 was at
> its peak and was a viable Windows competitor IBM wasn't including it on all
> its machines (you had to specifically order it).

My point was that you cannot buy a PC from IBM that has
no operating system installed on it.  You cannot even order
a PC from them that has only OS/2 installed on it.  They
simply will not sell you one without Windows.  If you ask
for one without Windows, they will say "no."

They will install a version of Windows on every PC they
sell.  They HAVE to, even though they have their own
operating systems (note the plural).

Kevin.

-- 

Java Programmer, Matrix fanatic
"There is no spoon."
  - Neo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:48:47 GMT

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:37:58 GMT, Pjtg0707 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:32:50 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Charles R. Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>------------------------------snipped-----------------------
>>
>>Microsoft never excluded netscape.  Not even from being installed on the
>>desktop.
>>
>>They required that the IE icon not be removed.  Those are two different
>>things.
>>
>
>This is true. I have Netscape and IE happily coexisting on my Win98 machine.
>I even have Real Player and Microsoft Media Player happyily coexisting 
>on the same desktop.
>
But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser"; forgot
what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when the
Netscape was set as the "default browser".  So for a time, Netscape was
excluded....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: JCOM: 386-based PC MS-DOS terminal emulator
Date: 10 Apr 2000 02:49:52 GMT

jcom170r.zip - JCOM: 386-based PC MS-DOS terminal emulator

I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:

http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/commprog/jcom170r.zip
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/commprog/jcom170r.zip 513110 bytes

jcom170r.zip    JCOM: 386-based PC MS-DOS terminal emulator

JCOM is a user friendly menu-driven software with rich features for
386-based PC MSDOS terminal emulator.  It supports the ANSI, VT102 and
Linux consoles and also supports the function/cursor keys for each
terminal emulation.  It supports RS-232 UART 16550A FIFO hardware with
speed up to 115200 bps and includes software and hardware flow control.
In addition to the default com1 to com4, JCOM supports hardware device
setup for other communication ports (com5 to com35).  JCOM includes
command-file and DOSkey-like function which are very useful for
remote-system-command execution.


Special requirements: gsz9705.zip (gsz.exe) for ZMODEM protocol.
                      (optional requirements: list93a.zip (list.com)
                      for external browser).

Changes: Additional features added.

jcom170r.zip has replaced jcom170q.zip.

Freeware.  Uploaded by the author.

Huey-Chang Jean
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI
Date: 10 Apr 2000 02:52:04 GMT

Tim De Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,

> Every time I do some disk-intensive tasks my SCSI bus hangs 
> for about 1 minute. I use Redhat 6.1 with an Adaptec 2940
> U2W (bios version upgraded to 2.2.20) on an SE440BX-2.
> Any ideas what could be wrong. It's happening frequently and
> the system doesn't respond so that's very anoying. All devices
> are well terminated and I have no SCSI problems under Windows.

What are the other devices?  Usually a problem like this indicates flaky
hardware.  Windows, being flaky to begin with, such hardware problems
aren't noticed.  Try booting with different devices disconnected to see if
it happens with a particular device.  Maybe the cable itself is bad.

-- 
David Griffith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compile bzImage error 2
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:26:00 +0200

mh wrote:
> 
> I have made several attempts to compile a new kernel (2.2.14), but
> something goes wrong at the point the compressed version of the kernel
> is being created.
> 
> Make enters the directory /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot then generates
> the following errors:
> 
> make[1]: as86: command not found
 There is no as86 installed on that machine. as86 comes usually in a
package called bin86 ( or maybe also dev86) 
--
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Reply-To: <btolder>
From: <btolder>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 18:37:41 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy


David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <btolder> writes:
>
> ' Where do you see the real innovation happening in this business? What
> ' companies? What specific technologies?
>
> Take off your blinders:
>
> C: AT&T
> C++: ibid
> Unix: ibid
> TCP/IP: ?
> Sockets: University Of Southern California, Berkley.
> Ethernet: Xerox PARC
> GUI: Staford research institute, then Xerox PARC
> Java: Sun
> WWW: Tim Berners-Lee/CERN
> Browsers: Spyglass/Mozaic
> Audio/video streaming: Progressive Networks / Real Networks
> True Type: Apple
> PostScript: Adobe
> Integrated Development Environment: Borland
> Spread Sheet: Dan Bricklen
> Word Processor: WordStar?
> TeX: Donald E Knuth
> Computer Science: ibid
> etc,etc,etc

Good list. Now pick what you think is the best of the above. Hint: I'm going
to show you how any of the above are nothing but a collection of already
known ideas integrated together in a fashion that makes them very appealing.
Then I'll point out the failings of the technology you've selected, and show
how crappy it can be made to look when scrutinized with perfect hindsight.
But this should be familiar to you, since this is the tact most often taken
by microsoft's critics.

Hopefully it will prove the point that nobody really is doing **any**
ground-up innovation. Instead, it is an endless list of subtle tweaks and at
some point one of them grabs hold (for whatever reason).

> I can't think of a single innovation to come out of Microsoft.  Not
> one.  Perhaps you can enlighten me as to Microsoft's most important
> innovation?

Bringing quality software to the masses at a reasonable price. Bill Gates is
to software what Henry Ford was to cars.




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From: bigbinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Problem
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 03:00:16 GMT

 I am having some real problems with my sound card.

It is an advance logic als 120, (cheap I know).  Problem is I cant get
it to play sounds through sndconfig.  First it is not listed when I run
sndconfig.  I tried the als 100(which i assume is similar) and then I
tried several differnt irq values and i/o and dma values then once
sndconfig goes to play the sample sound I get an error usually
/lib/modules/misc/2.2something/s????.o is not busy or not responding.
I think I need help modifying my isapnp conf file.  I have looked at it
but I dont know what to change.  If anybody has any ideas thanx.
I really dont want to compile the kernel<shrug>

Berlin Brown

--
"...yes darling, computers are people too..."
http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/lights/5679


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: apache "safe mode restriction" help needed
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 03:39:57 GMT

using SuSe 6.3, apache 1.3.4, mysql, php3

intermittantly I get a php3 page that is trying to reference the
configuration file and cannot

The config file is at the base of this particular project

/usr/local/httpd/htdocs/cam/config.inc.php3

is to be access by all the files under the /cam subdirectory.

the first thing I have the page do is to access that configuration file
so I can grab from the database.  Sometimes.. it does not work and I get
the following error message.


Warning: SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script whose uid is 509 is
not allowed to access /usr/local/httpd/htdocs/cam/config.inc.php3 owned
by uid 0 in
/usr/local/httpd/htdocs/cam/tremere/database/data_see_tremere.php3 on
line 2

Warning: Failed opening '/usr/local/httpd/htdocs/cam/config.inc.php3'
for inclusion in
/usr/local/httpd/htdocs/cam/tremere/database/data_see_tremere.php3 on
line 2

the config file is set to 777
it owned by a "user"

all of the files in a particular subdirectory are owned by a "user" 
(not root)

Ideas?  Solutions?



-- 
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss 9704-048 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26744150
SA Brujah, irc operator

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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:52:36 +1000


"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> > A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?
>
>
> So what the hell is Unix?

*Cheap* ?



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From: "Eddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: about share memory and semaphore
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:48:30 +0800

I am using RH6.1 . Is it possible to config the share memory parameter and
semaphore parameter without recompiling kernel ?

Eddy



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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:54:33 +1000


"Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Christopher Smith wrote:
> >
> > "Kevin" wrote:
> > >
> > > Otto, don't you think it's odd that a large PC-manufacturing
> > > company like IBM, who has their own operating systems, will
> > > not sell you a PC without Windows on it?  IBM will not sell
> > > you a PC that is pre-loaded exclusively with OS/2.  The best
> > > you can get is OS/2 and Windows dual-boot.  There's something
> > > wrong there IMHO, Otto.
> >
> > That is merely another example of IBM's stupidity.  Even when OS/2 was
at
> > its peak and was a viable Windows competitor IBM wasn't including it on
all
> > its machines (you had to specifically order it).
>
> My point was that you cannot buy a PC from IBM that has
> no operating system installed on it.  You cannot even order
> a PC from them that has only OS/2 installed on it.  They
> simply will not sell you one without Windows.  If you ask
> for one without Windows, they will say "no."
>
> They will install a version of Windows on every PC they
> sell.  They HAVE to, even though they have their own
> operating systems (note the plural).

And they are hardly alone in doing this (try buying a Mac without MacOS).
So what ?  It's not IBM's responsibility to pander to every section of the
market.  If IBM decides they want to sell "Windows PCs" why should they be
forced to spend time and money supporting and selling "Non-Windows PCs" when
multitudes of other sellers already do ?



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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:55:16 +1000


"Paul Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 01:37:58 GMT, Pjtg0707 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:32:50 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>Charles R. Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >------------------------------snipped-----------------------
> >>
> >>Microsoft never excluded netscape.  Not even from being installed on the
> >>desktop.
> >>
> >>They required that the IE icon not be removed.  Those are two different
> >>things.
> >>
> >
> >This is true. I have Netscape and IE happily coexisting on my Win98
machine.
> >I even have Real Player and Microsoft Media Player happyily coexisting
> >on the same desktop.
> >
> But it took a while for Netscape to find out about the windows "default
> browser" setting as IE would be installed as the "default browser"; forgot
> what it was, but had an app that just started the unused IE even when the
> Netscape was set as the "default browser".  So for a time, Netscape was
> excluded....

All that shows is that the app was hardwired to use IE.  Nothing Microsoft
can do about that.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chan Yick Wai)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: How to setup a dumb terminal as console
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 03:52:27 GMT

Hi,

For some reasons, I can't use VGA monitor as console, I tried to setup
a dumb terminal in my notebook as console, I failed. All messages
displayed in monitor rather than dumb terminal.

I've done.
1) got a null modem serial cable /w 2 & 3 pin twisted.
2) connect COM1 of my notebook to COM2 of Linux box
3) edit lilo.conf add

serial=1,9600n8
image= ..
     append="console=ttyS1,9600"
4) check /dev/console & /dev/tty0
both perm = 622, c, console is 5,1 tty0 is 4,0 that should be okay.

5) because I'm using Mandrake 7.0 the kernel is 2.2.14 so no
recompilation is required. I didn't recompile it.

I wonder if I've missed anything.

Thanks for your expertise in advance.


Chan Yick Wai

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From: "Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:48:37 -0400


Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5V8I4.1281$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Scott E. Regener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:955182579.270985009@localhost...
> > Reason #1 to reboot Windows: Installing new software.  It is extremely
> rare
> > that a new program won't insist on being rebooted in order to work.
>
> NT seldom requires a reboot though for this.  The software may tell you
to,
> but I've only found a few cases where it was required.

I guess for you comment applies below that most users don't know the
difference and reboot when told to.
It does seem that problems usually do occur if I don't heed the advice to
reboot in my experience.


>
> > Reason #2: A change in configuration, such as changing the TCP/IP
address
> of a
> > network interface, etc.
>
> You've never had to do this with NT, despite that it told you to reboot.
> Windows 2000 doesn't even tell you to.

That is an improvement.
Unfortunately I feel you must tell the bad of W2K to get the good.

>
> > Reason #3: A program has crashed and will not operate properly until its
> > residual parts are flushed from memory.  Many "application faults"
follow
> this
> > path, including many that appear to work properly for some length of
time
> > before exhibiting poor behavior.  Thus, while a particular application
> *may*
> > work properly after being restarted without a reboot, Windows users have
> been
> > trained to *always* reboot, just in case.
>
> What they are trained to do, and what is required are two different
things.
> Most Linux users would probably reboot their machine if X crashed or
locked
> up rather than trying to telnet into it from another machine to kill the
> processes.

I feel the past and current crop of Linux users are smart enough to solve
the problem short of rebooting.
You are right in the future they might reboot due to their experience with
troubleshooting under Windows.

Hopeful the word will get out that Linux is modular unlike Windows and
things can be restarted and contained well.

>
> > Reason #4: Decreased performance.  Over time, with heavy use, Windows
> systems
> > tend to slow down dramatically.
>
> Not if you maintain it properly.  These are things you would generally do
in
> Unix as well.  An example would be trimming or deleting log files (the
same
> as optimizing the registry).  Granted that this is often automated by cron
> tasks, but there's no reason it can't be automated with windows as well.
> One step that you'll want to do with Windows is defragment, which isn't
> usually necessary for Linux (unless you run full drives and add and delete
> stuff a lot).
>
> Proper maintenance can keep a Win9x machine running as fast as the first
day
> you installed it.


That would require alot of work and software to do tell I think.
And still I think it only helps, it doesn't solve the problem.

A good program to demonstrate this is Visual Basic, but I'm sure other
software would act this way as well.
With VB6, megabytes of stuff is added to the registry.  In fact the VB
installer even resizes the maximum
registry size to allow that much information to be added.

As the registry grows, speed slows.  I've heard of the Start Menu taking 20
seconds to load on a PII system
after installing Visual Basic.

Nothing short of not installing software will help due to the design of
Windows and Windows software, and the resulting
interaction.  Note:  this does not occur really in Linux.

>
> > Reason #5: Hung programs, especially ones considered critical to the
GUI.
> > These may even prevent the machine from shutting down properly, and may
> not
> > respond to "End Task" dialogs, if such things even appear.
>
> This seldom happens under NT.  If one hangs, you can kill it from a
command
> prompt.  I've never had it happen with Windows 2000.

It happens more than seldom for me.
Not alot, but not seldom.
If I install apps into NT, it's worse.
If I use NT alot, it's worse.

I believe it has been shown in both Linux and NT (W2K maybe too) that a
program
can be written to hang a system easily.

>
> > I'll admit that some of the above *may* also require reboots in Linux,
> though
> > the instances are much more rare.  However, it is perfectly reasonable
for
> an
> > active Windows user with one or two incompatible programs (i.e. DLL
hell)
> to
> > see frequent application crashes that require or recommend a reboot
before
> > continuing.
>
> Something which no longer happens with Windows 2000.

They sort of sold their soul on that one trading of compatibility.
It will be interesting if File Protection in W2K can force windows
developers to adopt good coding practices like not changing the
underlying OS.

Doing that should be offlimits to most programs.
Assuming that a reboot after installing new software is insane.

Windows 2000 has improved things.

Unfortunately there are some nasties associated with it I believe are quite
painful.
I feel Microsoft has finally hit the limit where they can't produce what I
consider to be a better OS on the whole.
New features when I don't want them (and bugs for free), incompatibilities,
etc.

Linux isn't ready as a desktop to me either.
I do think Linux/RedHat has potiental so I'm willing to wait a few versions
for it to improve.
Hopeful in the mean time more compaies will come around like Quicken, Intuit
and support Linux.

Jim Ross



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From: "Roy F. Cabaniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache and PHP3
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:03:51 GMT

Patrick Keys wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I'm having problems with Apache 1.3.12 and php3 compiled as a
> DSO. Basically, the php3 installation modifies the httpd.conf file... when
> the server is restarted, it refuses to do so. Running testconf gives the
> following errors:
> 
> httpd: can't resolve symbol 'open64'
> httpd: can't resolve symbol '__lxstat64'
> httpd: can't resolve symbol 'fopen64'
> Syntax error on line 207 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: cannot load
> /usr/local/apache/libexec/libphp3.so into server: Unable to resolve
> symbol
> 

This probably won't help.. but it is precompiled into the apache that
comes in suse

-- 
Dr. Roy F. Cabaniss 9704-048 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26744150
SA Brujah, irc operator

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Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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