Linux-Misc Digest #116, Volume #24 Tue, 11 Apr 00 23:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape 6 (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Apache -- CGI (Jan Schaumann)
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? (Luc de Louw)
Re: Could somebody help me with a little script? (Robert Heller)
klogd taking all the CPU? (Janet)
Re: symb link problems (Bastian)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (JTK)
Cron error+logrotate ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: uninstalling stuff (Tim Haynes)
SuSE 6.4
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
Re: SuSE 6.4 (Aron Felix Gurski)
Re: Packaging software... (Mark Wooding)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Greg Wimpey)
Re: uninstalling stuff (John Hasler)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: mounting problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:51:56 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > Matt O'Toole wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes! IE3 had nice, small buttons. Netscape not only has big buttons, it
> >> also insists on waving two other toolbars in front of you. You can't really
> >> make them go all the way away. Gotta wave those partner links in front of
> >> everyone!
>
> > I never did use IE but I have noticed the same thing about the partner
> > links. Like the "Shop" button in 4.72, what a waste of space since you
> > can find things cheaper at other sites than the one they stick in your
> > face.
>
> Is that the personal toolbar? If so, you can configure that how you want.
> Mine doesn't have "members", etc. It has "slashdot", "Freshmeat", "Dilbert",
> "userfriendly" and "world of spectrum".
>
> You can just delete items from the toolbar by editing your bookmarks.
Actually the "Shop"-button is not part of the bookmarks. But if you take
a hex-editor and edit the binary (make a backup before you do that!),
you can customize ALL the buttons.
Mine go like this:
Back | Forward | Reload | Home | Google/Linux | Freshmeat | Print |
Security | Slashdot | Stop
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
I didn't want a hokey second wedding like those ones on TV! This one's
for real!
-- Homer Simpson
A Milhouse Divided
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache -- CGI
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:56:47 -0400
paul simdars wrote:
>
> I wanted to do some web development on my linux box (RH6.1). I have
> installed Apache and it created the httpd dir with the html and cgi-bin
> directories under it. I remember reading that you put your html file
> in the html directory and the cgi files in the cgi-bin directory and
> away you go.
> I downloaded a couple of tutorials but I found them to be less than
> helpful when it comes to actually running the program. For perl scripts
> I type 'perl filename' and it runs fine. In the one tutorial that
> seemed to explain it very well, I should be able to take their sample
> cgi page, save it as first.cgi, copy it into my cgi-bin directory and
> then open it in the browser (netscape). But, Netscape prints out
> everything in the script. Here is a copy of the file:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> print "Content-type:text/html\n\n";
>
> print "<html><head><title>Test Page</title></head>\n";
> print "<body>\n";
> print "<h2>Hello, world!</h2>\n";
> print "</body></html>\n";
>
> I guess it is not executing it as a script but opening it as a file. I
> did 'chmod 777' to make sure all bases were covered. Maybe my
> assumption that the cgi-bin directory is set up to run cgi scripts is
> wrong. Any guidence from any gurus would be appreciated.
> You can also email me at : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks
Check in your apache-config that you have the necessary lines regarding
cgi's uncommented.
check your apache-errorlog (/etc/httpd/logs/error_log on RH, I think)
and see what your server tells you went wrong with the script.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
I may just quit my job at the plant to become a full-time stock market
guy.
-- Homer Simpson
Burns Verkaufen Der Kraftwerke
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From: Luc de Louw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:04:29 +0200
folks,
finaly lets say,
Keep your servers up to date, to avoid the attacks of
script-kiddies
-xinetd is a good approach to limit the access to the system
- delete the telnet-daemon and forget whet telnet means :-)
-block every port that is not secure, and needed
-replace every service with unencrypted passwds (if possible)
e.g. imap can be replaced with s-imap (use stunnel or another
ssl-wrapper)
- Use a dedicated firewall, if you have an internal network, use 2
firewalls and build a DMZ
have fun
rgds
Luc de Louw
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could somebody help me with a little script?
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:59:01 GMT
Peter Buijsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:24:46 +0200, wrote :
PB> Hi,
PB>
PB> I think I've got a problem that can be solved with a short script.
PB>
PB> The situation ... my 486 is not Y2K. Everytime I reboot the system the
PB> clock jumps back a couple of years. Date and time remain correct.
PB>
PB> I figure I can solve this with a little script that takes the date
PB> from the system, and writes back the date to the system but with the
PB> year changed to the year 2000.
PB>
PB> I'm not very god a writing scripts as I'm fairly new to Linux.
PB>
PB> Is there somebody who could give me a hand?
Assuming the only problem with your '486s BIOS is the 2-digit rollover
problem (1999 => 1900). Do this:
Fire up linux
reset the date with the date command:
# date MMDDhhmm2000
(MM = month (04)
DD = date (11)
hh = hour (16)
mm = minute (58) == Apr 11, 16:58 (4:58pm))
The set the BIOS clock from the system clock:
# hwclock -w
This should fix it.
PB>
PB>
PB> --
PB> Peter
PB>
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: klogd taking all the CPU?
Date: 11 Apr 2000 14:18:47 -0700
Hi,
I'm running Red Hat 6.1 on an Athlon, with a 2.2.14 kernel I compiled
myself. Periodically, klogd will start taking about 99% of the CPU. If I
restart syslog, it goes back to some reasonable usage. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: symb link problems
Date: 11 Apr 2000 21:20:15 GMT
Have you tried to do it with a hardlink?
Bastian
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:08:16 -0500, Drew Roedersheimer wrote:
>I'm trying to share my netscape bookmarks file
>(~/.netscape/bookmarks.html) between root and my normal login account.
>I would like all changes done as root to show up for my normal login
>account and vice-versa. I've created a symbolic link as follows:
>
>ln -s /home/mylogin/.netscape/bookmarks.html
>
>
>When I do a "ls -al" I get the proper listing like:
>
>..... blah ...... bookmarks.html ->
>/home/mylogin/.netscape/bookmarks.html
>
>
>But then, when I write something to the root's symbolic link (i.e. add
>or alter my bookmarks as root), the changes aren't reflected in the
>linked file, and furthermore, the symbolic link no longer shows up as a
>link in the /root/.netscape directory. It now appears as a file of it's
>own. For some reason, it seems like when Netscape alters the file, the
>file is recreated - not passed to the linked file. Am I wrong to assume
>that a write to a symbolic link "should" update the file itself - not
>create a new, unlinked file?? BTW, any changes to the file under the
>"mylogin" account show up for the root user, but not vice-versa.... And
>I'm running RH 6.1 but I haven't found any bug reports for anything
>similar. Is there maybe a better way to accomplish this in Linux? TIA
>
>
>regards
>-DR
>
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From: JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:24:58 -0500
Harlan Grove wrote:
>
> In article <uVpmpO#o$GA.225@cpmsnbbsa03>, "Ermine Todd"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/R407/V31site/
>
> >"Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> ..
> >>While Red Hat (and other distributions) charge for updates
> >>on CDs, they offer _free_ downloads of updates? What's the
> >>url for Microsoft's free W2K update?
>
> Guess I should have been more explicit: what't the url for
> Microsoft's free Windows 2000 product 'upgrade'?
>
> I knew Microsoft has an _update_ site. I've downloaded a
> few NT service packs from it. Yes, it's nice that Microsoft
> provides packaged bug-fixes for free. And, yes it's nice
> that I can get the Muppets in Space theme pack for free.
> But how about Windows 2000 itself?
>
Harlan, come on, you're not that naive. You know Red Hat will be
charging for each significant upgrade.
> Which raises another point: Linux kernels and distributions
> are relatively honest in showing version numbers, and yes
> the minor version numbers and patch levels can increment
> frequently. Microsoft on the other hand has resorted to
> subterfuge. NT 3 had several minor version numbers, but NT
> 4 is just NT 4 - except for the service packs. Guess if
> it's a service pack the OS doesn't need to be given minor
> version numbers or patch levels.
>
IIRC, NT 4.0 service pack 'level' was indeed displayed somewhere, and
was by no means 'hidden'. Now their apps on the other hand...
> * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web
>Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cron error+logrotate
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:24:48 GMT
Hi all,
I have been using unix for over a year now,primarily BSD and was
wondering if anyone could help in deciphering this cron error as part
of logrotate scripty in RH 6.1 running as a mail server.
error: /etc/logrotate.conf:34 duplicate log entry for /var/log/maillog
Logrotate is there for machines that have pretty large log files, and
it automagically does funky things in the background like compressing
and removal (see man logrotate). My logrotate.conf hasnt been touched
at all. Its set to do crunching weekly and rotate 4 ; ie the logs are
rotated 4 times in a week I presume(?), then as rotate suggests, it is
removed or mailed to an addy specified in a mail directive.
Weird thing is, every day, 2 users who are set to receive roots mail,
get this error as part of cron.daily that handles this scripty.
I dont understand it :(
If anyone has an answers for a weary soul, please drop me mail when
possible :)
Thanks for listening, really appreciate it!
Glen.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: uninstalling stuff
Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:25:02 +0100
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nix <$}xinix{[email protected]> writes:
> "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If anyone thinks I'm going to install ssh, netscape, gpg, pgp, my own
> > versions of pine & pico, a modified wvdial, Star Orifice 5.1a, XFree86 v 4
> > and vmware all straight into /usr/local/{bin,man,lib} then they can take
> > said "FHS" and combine pain & pleasure therewith. :8]
>
> That's what /usr/local/stow is for, on Debian.
>
> Don't tell me you point the PATH through ten million package-specific
> directories, and require everyone to log out and in again whenever you
> install something, so that they can see it?
My ~/.zshrc has
set -A path \
~/* /bin /usr/local/* /usr/local/*/bin /usr/bin \
/usr/* /usr/*/bin /usr/lib/*/ \
/sbin /usr/sbin /usr/X11R6/bin
which I don't object to, especially given that it's only me on my machines
:)
~Tim
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE 6.4
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:30:12 GMT
Has anybody found a review of SuSE 6.4. Or has anybody used SuSE 6.4? How
does it compare to Mandrake 7.0? Thanks!!
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:34:05 GMT
Andre Kostur wrote:
>
> >2) Total abstraction of a wide range of underlying hardware, including a
> >wide range of audio and display technologies (and hardware
> >accellerators).
>
> X-Window? (Ancient technology by computer terms...) Not too sure about the
> Audio end of things.
>
FILE *f = fopen("/dev/audio", "wb");
> >5) Games. Windows is the first generic OS to make a really compelling
> >game platform. The DirectSound, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, etc. APIs kick
> >ass.
>
> No idea.
>
The Amiga?
Commodore 64?
> >6) Palm-size PC. MAME game emulator in the pocket. MP3 player in the
> >pocket. DOOM in the pocket. All my mail available via my cellphone in
> >the pocket. Too cool.
>
In what way did Microsoft invent the "palm sized PC"? I thought
that was Psion, or even Atari...
> >7) Making computers easy and cheap. Mac did beat M$ to making them easy.
> >Others might have been cheaper. Microsoft made them easy and cheap at
> >the same time, which was crucial to mass market acceptance. Nobody else
> >was doing that in 1992.
>
I'm not sure the PC has reached the price of an Amiga yet.
Maybe next year if PC prices continue to drop...
--
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:43:56 GMT
Ermine Todd wrote:
>
> Optical mouse using a grid pad have existed for a long time. Creating a
> mouse that DOESN'T need a pad and works by sensing the changing appearance
> of ANY surface is new.
>
...but it's not "innovation", it's "evolution".
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/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:49:35 GMT
Patrick O'Neil wrote:
>
> I STRONGLY encourage you to write to the DOJ (their
> website has an email address specifically for people
> to submit messages regarding the Microsoft trial).
...so where's their web site?
> (Isn't it funny
> that Corel can make a good office suite with the
> wordprocessor remaining compatible with EVERY version
> of WordPerfect that has come before it? It doesn't
> make a good office product to break the format between
> every new version that comes out).
>
Yep. Are people forgettign that this is the company
whose '97 version of a word processor was incapable
of reading files created by their '95 version of the
same program.
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/ O O \
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:50:38 GMT
"Charles R. Lyttle" wrote:
>
> Netscape doesn't have clean skirts in this area. Netscape
> was the first to try to make propritary extensions to HTML.
> They helped me become more cynical about big corporations
> looking out for the mark, I mean, user.
>
Fortunately they didn't have enough market clout to make them
stick...
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/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
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From: Aron Felix Gurski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.4
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:52:40 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Has anybody found a review of SuSE 6.4.
Yup, here:
http://www.pro-linux.de/berichte/print/suse64.html
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up.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Wooding)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Packaging software...
Date: 11 Apr 2000 21:52:44 GMT
Andre Charbonneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm currently working on a regional settings control panel protoype
> (that works with system-level localization and uses Qt for UI) and I
> would like to put it in a nice package so that other linux users can
> give it a try. I would like users to be able to do a './configure' to
> generate the makefiles according to their system's settings. Can anyone
> help me on this one? Where can I find good documentation about this
> topic?
This looks like a job for Autoconf. You write a (usually quite brief)
description of the sorts of things which need configuring using some m4
macros, and it creates a configure script which works just like all the
other configure scripts provided with GNU packages. Fetch it from your
nearest friendly GNU mirror, and read the provided documentation,
because it's quite good. There are also lots of good examples to look
at.
I find Automake is quite helpful too. It generates Makefiles which do
all sorts of useful things as well as just building programs (such as
handling automatic dependencies on header files, and building source
distributions).
Fitting one or both of these into your existing program will be a bit of
work, but I suspect that it'll be worth it in the long run.
-- [mdw]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:51:30 -0500
>
> Well, if you insist on using the dictionary definition
> of 'monopoly',
works for me.
> The fact is that Microsoft has engaged in discriminatory
> pricing of Windows etc., selling these products at lower
> prices to OEMs that make their buyers pay for Windows (and
actually I kind of like the notion of producers and buyers
agreeing on a price without some third party butting in.
> possibly other Microsoft products) whether or not the user
> wants Windows on their PC, and selling at higher prices to
> OEMs that don't collect a Windows license fee from their
> customers who opt for other OS's. This is one charge of
> many that has now been established in a court of law
> (though pending appeal).
so your gripe is with the OEM?
> you're interested in. One last time: Microsoft has been
> found to be a 'monopoly' acording to the precise definition
> of that term in the US's Sherman Antitrust Act. Laws often
What some senile hack judge decides in a courtroom doesn't change
reality anymore than a jury saying OJ Simpson is not guilty changes
reality.
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From: Greg Wimpey <greg.wimpey@waii*removetomail*.com.invalid>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 11 Apr 2000 16:05:40 -0600
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > WWW: Tim Berners-Lee/CERN
> > > Though it's really based on Gopher, invented at the University of
> Minnesota.
> >
> > Sort of the same way you're "based on" your parents, I guess.
>
> No, Gopher came before WWW and was part of the WAIS (Wide area information
> system). I was using Gopher in 1992, and it had been around for quite a
> while before that. This provided linked information that you moved a curser
> over and clicked or hit enter to access it.
>
Gopher and WAIS are 2 different protocols I believe. I was using
Gopher in ~1990. It is menu-driven. A Gopher server presents a list
of menu items. You select an item (by number or by clicking the
mouse), and it either shows you the menu or performs the action for
that item. As I recall, an action could be a telnet session, a WAIS
search, displaying an image, etc.
What Gopher didn't have was the concept of hyperlinks embedded in
text. Of course Tim Berners-Lee didn't invent hypertext. He invented
HTTP, a convenient way of distributing hypertext in a
platform-independent manner. I think he also invented the idea of
on-the-fly rendering of hypertext by the browser, although there were
obviously client-server based information retrieval systems such as
Gopher already in operation.
Gopher was basically a way to catalog resources (analagous to Yahoo!
or other web indices). The Web was initially invented as a way to
cross-reference physics papers at CERN. They are obviously related,
but I think it's fair to say that the HTTP protocol had significant
innovations over Gopher.
Of course, if you want to find out where these ideas all came from, go
do a little research on the Xanadu project some time...
--
Greg Wimpey greg.wimpey@westgeo*removetomail*.com.invalid
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uninstalling stuff
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:04:20 GMT
Nix writes:
> Don't tell me you point the PATH through ten million package-specific
> directories, and require everyone to log out and in again whenever you
> install something, so that they can see it?
He may just settle for a bewildering maze of symlinks.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:20:41 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Innovation does NOT equate to de novo invention.
But then again, if you've ever read the book "Connections", you will
understand that there is little, if any, pure invention. Seems to me that
MS detractors somehow forget this when speaking of MS but are perfectly
willing to accept this when speaking of other companies.
--ET--
"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Ermine Todd wrote:
> >
> > Optical mouse using a grid pad have existed for a long time. Creating a
> > mouse that DOESN'T need a pad and works by sensing the changing
appearance
> > of ANY surface is new.
> >
>
>
> ...but it's not "innovation", it's "evolution".
>
>
>
> --
> <\___/>
> / O O \
> \_____/ FTB.
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:26:15 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Yes it's so terrible how MS hides their version info - I mean you have to
select properties - version tab from explorer, executable name /v from the
command line, or even Help - About from inside the applications.
Horrors! Why they couldn't have just created a text file called version.txt
(never mind that the user might have thousands of apps installed) and that
the file has to be parsed with a custom parser (since there is no standard)
and that there is no API to allow for interrogation. Why couldn't they have
done it just like Unix. <G>
--ET--
"JTK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Harlan Grove wrote:
> >
> > In article <uVpmpO#o$GA.225@cpmsnbbsa03>, "Ermine Todd"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/R407/V31site/
> >
> > >"Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > ..
> > >>While Red Hat (and other distributions) charge for updates
> > >>on CDs, they offer _free_ downloads of updates? What's the
> > >>url for Microsoft's free W2K update?
> >
> > Guess I should have been more explicit: what't the url for
> > Microsoft's free Windows 2000 product 'upgrade'?
> >
> > I knew Microsoft has an _update_ site. I've downloaded a
> > few NT service packs from it. Yes, it's nice that Microsoft
> > provides packaged bug-fixes for free. And, yes it's nice
> > that I can get the Muppets in Space theme pack for free.
> > But how about Windows 2000 itself?
> >
>
> Harlan, come on, you're not that naive. You know Red Hat will be
> charging for each significant upgrade.
>
> > Which raises another point: Linux kernels and distributions
> > are relatively honest in showing version numbers, and yes
> > the minor version numbers and patch levels can increment
> > frequently. Microsoft on the other hand has resorted to
> > subterfuge. NT 3 had several minor version numbers, but NT
> > 4 is just NT 4 - except for the service packs. Guess if
> > it's a service pack the OS doesn't need to be given minor
> > version numbers or patch levels.
> >
>
> IIRC, NT 4.0 service pack 'level' was indeed displayed somewhere, and
> was by no means 'hidden'. Now their apps on the other hand...
>
> > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find
related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is
Beautiful
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mounting problem
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:37:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I change to noauto (not mounting at boot time), then whenever I
reboot the mounting is gone. is it mean that I have to remount floppy
every time I reboot? same with cdrom? I do not need to remount on the
win98 mounting. thanks.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I can mount floppy and cdrom in linux 6.0, but when reboot it fail
to
> > mount again. i got the message at the boottime is "fd0 invalid block
> > device"
> > my fstab is : /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat defaults 00
> > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 defaults 00
> >
>
> These lines indicate the the kernel should try to mount the devices
when
> you boot up. This is not good if you dont have a floppy or cdrom
inserted
> when you do boot. You will then get the error message you mentioned.
You
> need to add an option to not mount at boot time. Do man fstab I
believe
> its noauto.
>
>
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