Linux-Misc Digest #129, Volume #24 Wed, 12 Apr 00 15:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Harlan Grove)
Re: Linux hangs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users (Andreas Kahari)
REQ:fli player? ("oliver austin")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Ermine Todd")
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Patrick O'Neil)
Re: Can't do "make config" ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which backup software to use? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
making bootable disk in linux
Re: Newbie gcc question (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Summing Up File Sizes (Parminder Lehal)
Re: Which backup software to use? ("David ..")
Re: New Dell with a ATA66: any hope? ("Kirk R. Wythers")
Re: newbie question (James Franklin)
Re: 2.3 pre-4 won't boot (Jarno Paananen)
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:06:32 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
It was available. I was running CP/M in '80 and it had existed for some
time before that.
--ET--
"Robert Wiegand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ole Vanman wrote:
>
> > >CP/M would have worked just as well, it just wasn't the first one
> > >available an lost the market.
> >
> > Actually...
> > CP/M _was_ the first one.
> > The founder of Intergalactic Digital Research just didn't bother to
> > answer the calls from the suits from Big Blue..
> > IBM was interested in MS' Basic compiler and since there was no
> > response from IDR, Gates promised to deliver the OS as well.
>
> By "available" I was refering to "available for purchase by users"
> not "exists in some development lab".
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:57:30 -0700
In article <sQXI4.50326
$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Otto"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>Otto wrote:
>>>
>>>You can market a product as much as you want to. If
>>>people don't want it the product will fail.
>>
>>Products can succeed indirectly.
>>
>>Not many people really want to buy gasoline, but they
>>want the car and buying gas is part of car owning.
>
>There is alternative fuel vehicles but there isn't
>many people who use them, or want to use them.
Good analogy, albeit unintended. There isn't a market in
alternative fuel vehicles in no small part because there
are almost no places to buy alternative fuels. It's not
just the product, it's also the whole infrastructure needed
to use the product that must exist.
>>The same with a computer. People want computers, but
>>I bet they wouldn't really care what OS is running
>>so long as it makes the computer do what they want
>>it to do.
>
>Or to be more exact, people want Windows computers.
>Presently it is the only platform which does what the
>masses want.
Only in the sense that it's the only OS that runs Windows
software. Most people care about application software. The
OS is not the primary consideration. Microsoft Office and
most of the rest of Microsoft's applications offerings
could be ported to Linux or OS/2 without much difficulty.
There'd be a good-sized market for these products. Why
hasn't this happened? Perhaps because Microsoft perfers to
use Office and its other apps to cement its hold on
desktops. And many people would prefer buying Macs if only
Apple weren't as much of a monopoly pricer as Microsoft and
if there were more apps and games for Macs.
<snip>
>The computers have been providing services for people,
>most of them are using computers as tools. Upto date, it
>is Windows which can give them those services on the
>easiest and most cost effective way.
Prior to roughly 1997, these serivices were provided by
dial up services using either proprietary GUIs available in
only Windows or Mac flavors or plain text transmission. For
the GUI's, you simply couldn't use them with an Amiga or PC
running Gem or Desqview/X. For text, you could use any
computer with a modem and software to echo keyboard and
serial port on the display. Microsoft provided the largest
installed customer base, and only in this way did it
provide the most cost-effective platform.
>From 1997 on, the web has become the primary medium for
such services, and any computer with a browser will do.
What Windows provides is the largest variety of application
software not so much because it's a better development and
operating platform than other OS's, rather because it
presents developers with a potential customer base at least
one order of magnitude larger than any other OS.
>>Any DOJ remedy should center around taking this
>>proprietry stuff (file formats, network protocols,
>>etc.) out of Microsoft's hands. Anything else is a
>>waste of time in the long term.
>
>I'm not aware that Microsoft owns any network protocols,
>well at least not the ones which counts. Proprietary stuff
>tends to have copyrights and there isn't much what the DOJ
>can do about that. That in itself will limit what the DOJ
>can/will do.
Only very technically correct. The DOJ can do nothing.
The court, on the other hand, can force conversion of
assets. If the court has the power to split Microsoft into
several (hopefully) competing companies, what leads you to
think that minor things like copyrights would be sacrosanct?
Not too clear on US antitrust law, are you?
What Microsoft really needs to lose it the vertical
integration that provides the applications development
units with specs for new versions of Windows before other
application developers get them as well as being enjoined
from giving any price breaks to any OEMs or resellers for
anything other than volume discounts. As for proprietary
ASP/browser stuff, Microsoft could be specifically enjoined
from adding any proprietary features or required to fully
disclose the specs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux hangs
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:01:21 GMT
Ok had another thought and I will be checking it when I get back
tonight.
The Epox motherboard comes with a built in sound device.
If for some reason both sound devices are seen by Linux and there is an
IRQ conflict that may be locking things up.
Though I don't understand how it would lock up when not in X. Could
this be? I will have to check. Anyone else using an MB with onboard
sound and a sound card? Did you have to disable the onboard somehow?
Help?
Mike
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> My RedHat (6.1 and 6.2) Linux hangs, both in text mode and XWindow. It
> hangs in very unusual way, to restart computer I have to turn power
off,
> reseting button did'nt restart, it just turn of display.
>
> Please help me?
>
> I have Epox motherbord, AMD K3 III 400Mhz procesor, 128 Mb RAM, 27GB
IBM UATA 66 HardDisk.
>
> how to correct this problem?
>
> Rafael
> P.S Please send answer also to my e-mail . Thanks
>
>
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:08:04 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Yes, James Burke. Book(s) actually and a regular column in Scientific
American.
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Ermine Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Innovation does NOT equate to de novo invention.
>
> > But then again, if you've ever read the book "Connections"
>
> IS that James Burkes "Connections"?
> If so, it was a damned good TV series. (It was on about 15 years ago, and
it
> really stuck in my memory).
>
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:19:21 -0600
Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:49:35 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >Yep. Are people forgettign that this is the company
> >whose '97 version of a word processor was incapable
> >of reading files created by their '95 version of the
> >same program.
>
> Well, that is innovative. Nobody else would have come up this. Forced
> obsolence. Very clever.
Well, I would give that innovation to the auto industry. Throughout
the 70s they produced crap that WAS designed that way.
patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:08:49 GMT
My connection is through PRG, yes. And now I must say I'm really
impressed with your computer skills. Someone shield me from your glory.
I don't have kids. And if I did, you can bet I'd be using a monitoring
system with the way things are today. Boys will be boys. And I
believe I said I didn't want a filter. The point I was trying to make
is that companies that install filters are restricting *all* of their
users from *all* of the sites that *might* be offensive to someone. I
*don't* agree with that.
As for big brother, you watch the x-files too much. I really dislike
paranoid people; they tend to jump at shadows *way* too much.
However, I can tell that you will be of no use to me - so why continue
the banter. See ya.
City
>
> You're working for PRG? At least you're using their computers...
>
> Now, you seem to be most concerned about your children. Do you really
> think that systematic monitoring of children is the best way to raise
> your kids? What about education? Didn't you do something wrong, as a
> parent, when you had to come to the conclusion that you ought to
install
> an anti-porn filter?
>
> What is so dangerous with your workers viewing politically incorrect
> things from the web or send politically incorrect emails to eachother?
> Do *you* decide what's correct and what's not?
>
> I was in Colorado last week and going through a couple of domestic
> airports on the way I realized that the American people is so used to
> being pushed around and told what to do and where to go and to "watch
> your step" by authorities that they probably won't care about being
> watched by big brother while working.
>
> It's just so sad.
>
> /A
>
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:15:19 GMT
In article <8d2e31$31k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My connection is through PRG, yes. And now I must say I'm really
> impressed with your computer skills. Someone shield me from your
glory.
No need to, it wasn't very impressive.
>
> I don't have kids. And if I did, you can bet I'd be using a
monitoring
> system with the way things are today. Boys will be boys.
I know you would.
> And I
> believe I said I didn't want a filter. The point I was trying to make
> is that companies that install filters are restricting *all* of their
> users from *all* of the sites that *might* be offensive to someone. I
> *don't* agree with that.
Good.
>
> As for big brother, you watch the x-files too much. I really dislike
> paranoid people; they tend to jump at shadows *way* too much.
I don't own a TV. I last saw a television program about one year ago, I
think it was a Swedish program...
Who's being paranoid? Really.
>
> However, I can tell that you will be of no use to me - so why continue
> the banter. See ya.
>
You're absolutely right.
> City
Keep an eye open.
/A
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From: "oliver austin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: REQ:fli player?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:20:16 +0100
Not really sure if this is the right newsgroup to post to, but I couldn't
find any better alternatives
I'm using PPM2FLI to convert ppm format files to fli format movie
I want to watch the movie...I havent got a clue about the installation of
xanim, please does anyone know of a simple player for fli format movies
(thats all I need :o). Simple as in easy to install
Ta..oliver
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From: "Ermine Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:24:00 -0700
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Actually, they can. And I've seen this in various prerelease versions over
the decades. The question is whether/when is the appropriate time to
present this to users and how to present it. Of note: there are several
third party companies that do have a utility that performs like this
available for purchase. Interestingly enough, in the very first version of
Windows that I tested (pre v 1.0 btw) this was one of the pieces being
considered. It was rejected. Now, I think that was a dumb decision, but
the decision was based upon responses from ISVs who said that they wanted
total control over the installation process of their applications. They did
not want to have to use any system service for this purpose. Also, at the
time, there was considerable market resistance to the bizarre copy
protection schemes that were being promulgated. Many who asked felt that a
system level installer would just be some scheme to control licensing, or a
way to defeat copy protection.
In any event, your "software manager" is not a common component of UNIX, but
of specific vendor's implementation and if it's the one I think it is, it
only works for very specific classes of software from a limited vendor set -
though, it is a good idea. You might want to check out the MSInstaller for
a better implementation of the concept of software installation.
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"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Ermine Todd wrote:
> >
> > Horrors! Why they couldn't have just created a text file called
> > version.txt (never mind that the user might have thousands of apps
> > installed) and that the file has to be parsed with a custom parser
> > (since there is no standard) and that there is no API to allow for
> > interrogation. Why couldn't they have done it just like Unix. <G>
> >
>
> That's a very good question Todd...
>
> My Unix allows installations to be rolled forwards and
> backwards easily through a thing called a "software manager"
> which is a graphical tool which helps you to control what
> software is installed on the machine.
>
> The "software manager" requires a password to run so normal
> users can't do anything bad to the machine. It keeps
> track of changes made during installations so if something
> goes wrong, you can just go back through the installation
> history and fix it.
>
> The "software manager" allows applications can be downgraded
> as well as upgraded, just stick the CD with the older version
> of the software in the drive and click yes when it says "that's
> an older version of the app, are you sure you want to downgrade"
>
> I've been using it since, let's see... a couple of years before
> the launch of Windows 95. The machines I've been using it on
> have never had to have the OS reinstalled or anything like
> that...
>
> Why can't Microsoft manage something like this? Eh, Todd...?
>
>
> --
> <\___/>
> / O O \
> \_____/ FTB.
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:27:12 -0600
fungus wrote:
>
> Patrick O'Neil wrote:
> >
> > I STRONGLY encourage you to write to the DOJ (their
> > website has an email address specifically for people
> > to submit messages regarding the Microsoft trial).
>
> ...so where's their web site?
>
> > (Isn't it funny
> > that Corel can make a good office suite with the
> > wordprocessor remaining compatible with EVERY version
> > of WordPerfect that has come before it? It doesn't
> > make a good office product to break the format between
> > every new version that comes out).
> >
>
> Yep. Are people forgettign that this is the company
> whose '97 version of a word processor was incapable
> of reading files created by their '95 version of the
> same program.
The link to the DOJ page specific to the Microsnot
case is:
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_index.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't do "make config"
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:19:36 GMT
Apparently you didn't have the kernel source installed. I got the same error
message on rh5.1 when I tried to recompile the kernel, and then I realized
/usr/src/linux was empty(or practically empty). I guess you can go ahead and
rpm install the kernel source in your linux cd. (I did this before, and make
config did work, but exited with an error message saying some libs or includes
were not found, I checked, they _were_NOT_ there, don't know what the redhat
folks were thinking when they prepared the kernel source rpm. I downloaded
the kernel source from the net later, and eveything compiled fine).
Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : Does anyone have a clue why it doesn't recognize the make command?
:> Perhaps because you haven't installed it?
:> Check. Man rpm as a first exercise! I would wager that you haven't
:> installed redhats "development" packages.
: I thought it was installed automatically? I used to be able to do
: the 'make config' with an earlier redhat.
: The error message I get is:
: make: *** No rule to make target 'config'. Stop.
: If it is not installed, how can I install it so that I can reconfigure
: my kernel?
: TIA!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Which backup software to use?
Date: 12 Apr 2000 18:28:33 GMT
In comp.unix.admin Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a SCSI-DAT drive and look for the optimal software for making backups of
> my Linux-Box (SuSE 6.3).
> I have figured out that there is amanda, cpio and star. But I'm sure there are
> several other free tools out there. Can anyone recommend a special tool?
i'd go for 'dump' Allows 'on-line browsing' and restoration of individual files.
Amanda is a backupsystem that can use dump among other utilities.
Peter h
> Performace while backup is not the goal. It is just important to be able to
> recover any special file from the tape as quick as possible. And to be able to
> store several backups on one tape.
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter Buzanits
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: making bootable disk in linux
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:30:06 GMT
hi,
i don't know how to make bootable disk in linux
pls. help me
parth.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie gcc question
Date: 12 Apr 2000 09:41:20 -0800
Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Swami Chandrasekaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I wrote a C program and it all compiled fine. It created an a.out file
>> and when I tried a.out on my shell prompt, it gave me an error saying,
>> a.out not found. I also compiled with the option
>>
>> gcc <filename.c> -o <filename>
>>
>> When I ran <filename> it gave me the same error. Can someone help me
>??
>>
>> //Swami.
>>
>>
>
>Try prefixing the command with "./" (making it "./a.out"). You don't
>have the current directory ('.') in your $PATH, so you have to tell the
>OS that the executable command that you're trying to run is in the
>current directory.
>
>To add the current directory to your $PATH, add the following to your
>"~/.bashrc" file (or the corresponding file for your shell):
>
>export PATH=$PATH:.
Don't.
First, it creates a security risk.
Second, if the security risk is not a problem (which might be likely
on a home computer), change the PATH variable in whichever one
of the following files is being used:
~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, or ~/.profile
Each login shell will read the first of the above files it finds
and set the PATH variable as above, one time only. Each
interactive sub-shell reads ~/.bashrc (and commonly ENV or BASH_ENV
is also set to ~/.bashrc so that non-interactive sub-shells also
read it), and that means that at each level the PATH is *again*
added to. There is no point in adding it more than once.
Floyd
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From: Parminder Lehal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Summing Up File Sizes
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:26:21 -0400
Jeff Susanj wrote:
>
> I thought that I could do anything in Linux that I could do in DOS and then
> some but now I'm stumped. We have a bunch of files and we would like to
> know how many blocks of storage or even better how many Kbytes they consume.
> We want to do this fairly often. 'ls' will give me the information for a
> single file but it will not provide a summary like the DOS 'dir' command
> would. Is there a way to do this that is not too complicated, i.e. that can
> be done in one command line?
>
> Jeff S.
You can do the sum yourself too.. with this
ls -l | awk '{sum+=$5;print sum;}'
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Which backup software to use?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:52:10 -0500
Peter Buzanits wrote:
>
> I have a SCSI-DAT drive and look for the optimal software for making backups of
> my Linux-Box (SuSE 6.3).
>
> I have figured out that there is amanda, cpio and star. But I'm sure there are
> several other free tools out there. Can anyone recommend a special tool?
>
> Performace while backup is not the goal. It is just important to be able to
> recover any special file from the tape as quick as possible. And to be able to
> store several backups on one tape.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Peter Buzanits
>
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With it being an SCSI drive you might want to check here:
www.arkeia.com
They have a free download available and it works great for my Seagate
SCSI tape.
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From: "Kirk R. Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: New Dell with a ATA66: any hope?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:55:25 -0500
Thanks Mike... I thought Wayne's HOWTO looked pretty good. I'll give a try
as soon as I get my partition problem figured out. I used the randish
partition manager to shrink a win98 FAT partition to make room for linux.
Now even though fdisk correctly reports the size of the FAT partition as 22
gigs, Windows explorer says it's only 11 gigs. I've done the scandisk and
norton thing to no avail. I want to get this issue resolved before I try
again with the RedHat install. Thanks again...
Kirk
Michael Kelly wrote:
> In article <8d28t3$qfa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly) writes:
> > In article <8d0p25$d32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [snip]
>
> > If you have the interface cable and
> > want to get the full udma support, once you get installed and all, then
> > download and compile the 2.3.4 kernel. I've been using it for a couple
> > of weeks now with no problems. bonnie went from showing 6.7 MB/sec to
> > around 21 MB/sec and hdparm showed buffered sequential reads of about
> > 16 MB/sec! Definitely worth a kernel download and compile! You can
> > set up your lilo.conf so you can boot either the install kernel or the
> > new one in case there's a problem.
> >
> > Good luck. :)
> >
>
> Oops! I should also add, if you compile 2.3.4 kernel make sure
> you run make config or make xconfig and enable the pd* drivers
> that support the Promise udma interface. They are not enabled
> by default. Also see the HOWTOs at www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO for
> info on enabling the udma on bootup etc..
>
> --
>
> Mike
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> -- Groucho Marx
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Kirk R. Wythers University of Minnesota
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:01:51 +0000
From: James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
I know when I had problems with my NIC it was because my BIOS was set
for PnP, ergo it did not initialize anything. When I turned off the PnP
OS option of my BIOS, windows still worked (it simply used the devices
as initialized by the BIOS), and the NIC was properly initialized by
BIOS for Linux.
Arun Keswani wrote:
>
> Just to update everyone on what is going on. I tried most everything that
> everyone
> suggested. I started out by going into linuxconf. I set up the eth0 adapter
> using the dhcp option and specified tulip as the module. This added a line
> to the conf.modules file in /etc automatically. I then tried ifconfig, but
> nothing
> came up. When I am in the control-panel the eth0 shows up but it is
> inactive.
> When
> I try to activate it , it just tried to obtain an ip address for a while,
> during
> which
> time if you type "ifconfig" the card shows up. But then it gives up
> "Operation
> failed"
> and the card is no longer seen if you type ifconfig.
>
> Now I am not too sure what is going on. I tried to compile the driver that I
>
> got with the card, but I suspect that it was designed for an earlier kernel.
>
> At any rate it fails giving me various errors about arguments not being the
> correct number. I had a look at the code, but could not decipher anything.
> Something to do with pointers. So that was a no go.
>
> I am willing to take suggestions here. Do you folks think that the card is
> being
>
> recognized or that the driver is the right one, after all the card does show
>
> up in the control panel ? Or is it a problem with the DHCP. Incidentally,
> as you may have gathered from the previous postings, this is a strange case,
>
> because the tech who set up the service, used DHCP in windows , but
> when I contacted @Home , they gave me an IP, gateway add, dns numbers
> etc. So I am not completely sure if I should DHCP or static. I have tried
> the
> static settings to no avail too. Incidentally the DHCP works under windows.
>
> So I am wondering should I throw the noname card out the window and buy
> something more conventional ? Your ideas, suggestions would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> A.
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From: Jarno Paananen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.3 pre-4 won't boot
Date: 12 Apr 2000 22:07:44 +0300
"Alex Kaufman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| This is a freshly compiled 2.3.99-pre4. It comes up but then halts at
| "cannot handle kernel paging request". What does it mean?
|
| root is /dev/hdb8
| swap is /dev/hdb9
This is a known bug fixed in pre5.
// Jarno
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