Linux-Misc Digest #130, Volume #24 Wed, 12 Apr 00 17:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: REQ:fli player? (Andreas Kahari)
trouble with Storm Linux 2000 install (rick carroll)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Patrick O'Neil)
Stopping and starting daemons (John Roberts)
Re: gated/routed/f#ckd (Tom Eastep)
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users ("J. C.")
Re: Which backup software to use? (Frank Miles)
Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users (Dave Newton)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Robert Wiegand)
rcp woes with RH6.2 (Hal Burgiss)
Re: kppp says pppd not set right (G. R. Gaudreau)
Media Player ("constants")
Re: Media Player (Patrick O'Neil)
ipgrab packet sniffer now at Sourceforge (Michael Borella)
Re: ipgrab packet sniffer now at Sourceforge (Patrick O'Neil)
Partitioning problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Media Player (Mircea)
Re: Summing Up File Sizes (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Free Linux Books (JA)
Re: (recommendations) linux icq clone (console only) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Stopping and starting daemons ("David ..")
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: REQ:fli player?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:03:28 GMT
In article <8d2b30$csr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"oliver austin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not really sure if this is the right newsgroup to post to, but I
couldn't
> find any better alternatives
> I'm using PPM2FLI to convert ppm format files to fli format movie
> I want to watch the movie...I havent got a clue about the installation
of
> xanim, please does anyone know of a simple player for fli format
movies
> (thats all I need :o). Simple as in easy to install
> Ta..oliver
>
>
Freshmeat at <URL:http://freshmeat.net/> is a great place for any
GNU/Linux software.
Take a look at 'aview' at
<URL:http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/08/18/903472978.html>. I haven't
used it or any kind of FLI viewer, so I don't know anything about it (I
don't even know what FLI is).
Try searching Freshmeat for "FLI".
/A
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From: rick carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: trouble with Storm Linux 2000 install
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:11:26 -0400
hey.. im trying to instal Storm Linux 2000 (Rain Release) and I'm having
problems with package installs. it says
"installing base files" on a a window but never gets past 0%
then it moves on to Initializing packages for installation (or something
of the sort) and goes to 100%. then hangs
if I press Alt+F4 i get a "storm login:" prompt where I can login as
root, but when I try to run scripts or executables it says permission
denied...
any suggestions?
please email me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:25:41 -0600
fungus wrote:
>
> David Steuber wrote:
> >
> > I can't think of a single innovation to come out of Microsoft. Not
> > one. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to Microsoft's most important
> > innovation?
> >
>
> Clippie the dancing paper clip, and....
>
> .
>
> .
>
> .
>
> ...and I can't think of anything else.
Bob. Bob was the PINNACLE of M$ innovation. Good ole Bob.
What about Bob?
patrick
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From: John Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stopping and starting daemons
Date: 12 Apr 2000 19:27:09 GMT
Greetings all;
In some of the HOWTO'S the authors talk about stopping and re-starting
daemons; so configurations can take place. I know that I can type ps and
kill
the daemon that way. Is starting the daemon as easy as typing the daemon's
name; lpd for for example?
--
John Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: gated/routed/f#ckd
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:13:11 -0700
R�M$T@R wrote:
>This is the problem: my Linux (Redhat 6.0) box cannot see the internet
>world.
>
>This is the setup: Linux client. NT server, and several Win98 clients.
>NT is the gateway. The win98 boxes connect to the NT box for the interent.
>The linux box can see the NT box.
>
>This is the output of route:
>
>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
>Iface
>192.168.100.8 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0
>192.168.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
>127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
>default shark_nt 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
>eth0
>
>I can ping back and forth between the NT box and the win98 boxes and Linux,
>I've even got samba working so that the win98 boxes can read/write the linux
>box - BUT linux *cannot* ping the internet.
>
>The /etc/hosts file has the nt box and the ip, and resolve.conf looks like:
>domain 192.168.100.1
>nameserver 192.168.100.1
>
>I'm sure that I'm only missing something small, but everywhere I look I
>can't see any solution...PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
>
>
There's nothing wrong with your Linux routing configuration -- are you
running some sort of NAT software in your NT box?
-Tom
--
Tom Eastep \ Eastep's First Principle of Computing:
ICQ #60745924 \ "Any sane computer will tell you how it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
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From: "J. C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:31:41 GMT
In article <8d2d1n$1kh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Kahari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: What is so dangerous with your workers viewing politically incorrect
: things from the web or send politically incorrect emails to eachother?
: Do *you* decide what's correct and what's not?
:
You're missing the point. When you work for me, I have an absolute
right to monitor both your time and your use of my equipment. Your time
belongs to me, subject to the terms of your contract with me, or to the
collective agreement I may have signed with your union. I have a right
to know what you're doing with that time, and to decide whether your
use of that time (that I'm paying for) is appropriate to my needs.
Likewise, I own the computer you use, and I have a right to decide how
you use it. That's it, that's all. If you don't like it, you quit.
What you do at home on your own time with your own equipment is (and
should be) your business.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Which backup software to use?
Date: 12 Apr 2000 19:31:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a SCSI-DAT drive and look for the optimal software for making backups of
>my Linux-Box (SuSE 6.3).
>
>I have figured out that there is amanda, cpio and star. But I'm sure there are
>several other free tools out there. Can anyone recommend a special tool?
>
>Performace while backup is not the goal. It is just important to be able to
>recover any special file from the tape as quick as possible. And to be able to
>store several backups on one tape.
afbackup
--
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From: Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FLAME] Re: monitoring users
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:46:30 GMT
J. C. wrote:
> You're missing the point. When you work for me, I have an absolute
> right to monitor both your time and your use of my equipment.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Why would I want to work for someone that doesn't trust me? What other
possible reason would an employer have for monitoring my every move,
at least on the computer?!
> Likewise, I own the computer you use, and I have a right to decide how
> you use it. That's it, that's all. If you don't like it, you quit.
Again, of course you have the _right_. But that still doesn't mean you
_should_ spy on me. So, I guess I quit.
Dave
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:19:19 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> CP/M *WAS* available for purchase. In fact, you could buy machines such as
> the Osborne and Kaypro with CP/M at about the same time. The TRS/80 ran a
> version of CP/M in the late 70's.
When the IBM PC first came out you couldn't buy a version of CP/M that
ran on it.
The fact that CP/M was available for other computers didn't do much
good for people buying IBM machines.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: rcp woes with RH6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:02:08 GMT
Just upgraded to RH6.2, and a script I have used for sometime to copy a
group of files from one machine to another via cron on a private network
just bombs out with 'permission denied'. I have previously used both scp
and rcp, but neither will work ATM. Both hosts are in each others
/etc/hosts and /etc/hosts.equiv. Ditto, hosts.allow. Both can ping each
other, etc. rsh still works flawlessly, ie no login required. This is
from the log on the machine where the copy originates:
Apr 12 15:19:18 localhost pam_rhosts_auth[10684]: denied to
hal@localhost as hal: access not allowed
Apr 12 15:19:18 localhost in.rshd[10684]: rsh denied to hal@localhost as
hal: Permission denied.
Apr 12 15:19:18 localhost inetd[469]: pid 10684: exit status 1
Target machine's log:
Apr 12 12:42:04 localhost rshd[9344]: rsh denied to hal@feenix as hal:
Permission denied.
Apr 12 12:42:04 localhost inetd[1197]: pid 9344: exit status 1
Thinking it is maybe PAM related, but renaming pam.d/rlogin does
nothing.
[hal@feenix hal]$ cat /etc/pam.d/rlogin
#%PAM-1.0
auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rhosts_auth.so
auth required /lib/security/pam_securetty.so
auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
auth required /lib/security/pam_nologin.so
account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so
password required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok use_authtok
session required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
This is the same on both boxes. I've run out of ideas. Again, this is
something that worked until upgrading. Any ideas?
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: G. R. Gaudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kppp says pppd not set right
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:05:56 -0400
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Bill Unruh wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> G. R. Gaudreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
>>This is weird. I just updated the kdenetwork package and now kppp tells me that
>
>>pppd is not properly installed, something about SUID. I'm not sure what
>
>>that means. Can someone please help?
>
>By default pppd is installed as runnable by root only
>cd /usr/sbin
>chmod a+rx pppd chat
>chmod u+s pppd
>
>On the other hand, kppp tends to like to be suid root as well. This is a
>real security hole and I have no faith that kppp has been written with
>security in mind. If so you may have to find the kppp binary (whereis
>kppp) and also make it suid root
>chmod u+s kppp
>Then you can also send me a blank cheque with your signature on it.
>After all you can trust people you meet on the web, can't you?
REVGR
I'm relatively new to Linux: Why would that be a security whole? I'll do it
your way since you seem to know whereof you speak. I don't know every much
about this security stuff. Thanks for the reply and advice. :)
--
Rev. G. R. Gaudreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/grgaud/
" ! "
-- Marcel Marceau
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From: "constants" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Media Player
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:17:01 -0400
Is there a program for linux that is identical to Microsoft Media Player,
since I want to play .asp files. Thanks
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Media Player
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:19:24 -0600
constants wrote:
>
> Is there a program for linux that is identical to Microsoft Media Player,
> since I want to play .asp files. Thanks
no. you could try to run media player thru wine but i don't know
if it will work. asp is absolutely propriatory.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Borella)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: ipgrab packet sniffer now at Sourceforge
Date: 12 Apr 2000 20:20:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the last couple of years I've been working on an
open source packet sniffer that is rather verbose.
I've moved the development efforts to sourceforge, which
has a web-based CVS respository.
To access the project, sign up at http://www.sourceforge.net/
and take a look at http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=4340
-Mike
--
Mike Borella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: ipgrab packet sniffer now at Sourceforge
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:27:55 -0600
Michael Borella wrote:
>
> For the last couple of years I've been working on an
> open source packet sniffer that is rather verbose.
> I've moved the development efforts to sourceforge, which
> has a web-based CVS respository.
>
> To access the project, sign up at http://www.sourceforge.net/
> and take a look at http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=4340
Now we just need a stealthy packet sniffer. LoPhT released a
sniffer detector that simply finds computers on the network
that are in promiscuous mode, required for sniffing. If there
were some way around this...or perhaps a chirping sniffer, it
could sniff off and on, hopefully missing the scans the anti-
sniffer makes on a net.
praedor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Partitioning problems
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:26:06 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all. I hope you can help me.
I have an Aptiva E3U. In preparation for installing linux, I have tried
partitioning my drive (8Gig) with fips. Prior to that I defrag, of
course. However, every time, this fails (repartitioning) beacause
something is left on the last cylinder. My understanding is that this
is just the Windows swapfile, but I can't get rid of it. How do you do
it? The closest I can get is Disabling Virtual Memory. This doesn't
work and creates major headaches.
I am trying to avoid destructive partitioning, but will do a complete
reformat if I have to. I want to give the non-destructive approach one
more try, but need to know how to get around that one glitch.
Thanks,
Eric
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Media Player
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:52:08 -0400
constants wrote:
>
> Is there a program for linux that is identical to Microsoft Media Player,
> since I want to play .asp files. Thanks
Asp is, AFAIK, mpeg-4, which isn't supported in Linux quite yet. You
might want to try running the MSMP in wine (www.winehq.com) or vmware
(www.vmware.com).
MST
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Summing Up File Sizes
Date: 12 Apr 2000 12:12:47 -0800
Parminder Lehal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jeff Susanj wrote:
>>
>> I thought that I could do anything in Linux that I could do in DOS and then
>> some but now I'm stumped. We have a bunch of files and we would like to
>> know how many blocks of storage or even better how many Kbytes they consume.
>> We want to do this fairly often. 'ls' will give me the information for a
>> single file but it will not provide a summary like the DOS 'dir' command
>> would. Is there a way to do this that is not too complicated, i.e. that can
>> be done in one command line?
>>
>> Jeff S.
>You can do the sum yourself too.. with this
>
>ls -l | awk '{sum+=$5;print sum;}'
$ du -s
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JA)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.ads,linux.misc,linux.redhat.announce
Subject: Re: Free Linux Books
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:58:13 -0400
Great book for beginning to intermediate user of FreeBSD, Linux, or Unix.
I have a limited supply of never used Harley Hahn's *Open Computing-Unix
Unbound* (ISBN 0-07-882050-2).
Originally published by Osborne/McGraw Hill at $27.95 I am offering at
$5.00 including postage (within the continental US).
This book is one of the best at making clear what others may obfuscate..
Not only is this one of the best introductory books for the serious Unix
user but it's excellent as a quick reference.
It's worth it for the Appendix's and Quick Index's alone.
Appendix A: Unix commands covered in the book.
Appendix B: Summary of Unix Commands by category.
Appendix C: Summary of vi commands.
Appendix D: Summary of emacs commands.
Appendix E: The ASCHII Code
There are also 2 Quick Index's for both vi and emacs.
The glossary section is clearly explained and the index section is well
outlined and complete.
Anyone interested please contact via direct email..
This isn't free but it's damned close to cost..
To reply remove SPAMNOT from return address.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: (recommendations) linux icq clone (console only)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Apr 2000 16:58:15 -0500
On 2000-04-05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>linux:126504 the best consol icq app i have found is BitchX
>very configurable and regularly updated and loots of prity colors
I've tried BitchX, but it's IRC, not ICQ, unless there is a newer version.
>--(Once apon a time, in alt.os.linux,)--
>--(Darren Wyn Rees said it like only they can.)--
>$
>$looking for recommendations for an ICQ clone.
>$
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:07:27 -0500
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Robert Barry wrote:
> I heard a good illustration of how Microsoft is abusing its monopoly status.
> It goes like this:
> Microsoft is the only company that sells milk.
Repeat after me, Microsoft does not sell the only PC operating system.
Since your premise isn't true, everything that follows is just so much
ranting.
> Everybody needs to milk.
> Another company makes bread
> Microsoft wants to enter the bread market.
> Microsoft tells its customers (oem & retail) that to buy its milk you
> must also buy its bread.
>
> That tying is what's illegal. You can't leverage your monopoly position
> in milk to bread that way.
I want to use Chapter 13 of Robert Barry's book, Crackpot Economics, when
I teach my Econ 101 class. Robert Barry's publisher says "we're not going
to sell you just chapter 13, you have to buy the whole damn book." How is
that different than what you claim Microsoft is doing?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:23:26 -0500
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Patrick O'Neil wrote:
>
> What planet are YOU from? The court's decisions ARE the law. They are
> the FINAL and ONLY interpreters of the law. Not you, not your sister,
> not your neighbor. Your congressclown creates the laws, and if they
> pass Constitutional muster (AS DETERMINED BY THE COURTS...NOT YOU),
> they go into law and then they belong to the courts. The courts
> ARE the arbitors of what is and is not the law by definition.
I'm sure that if you hunt around you can find a copy of the US
Constitution. If you read it, you will learn how laws are passed.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stopping and starting daemons
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:04:54 -0500
John Roberts wrote:
>
> Greetings all;
>
> In some of the HOWTO'S the authors talk about stopping and re-starting
> daemons; so configurations can take place. I know that I can type ps and
> kill
> the daemon that way. Is starting the daemon as easy as typing the daemon's
> name; lpd for for example?
>
> --
> John Roberts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
You can start a daemon with:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/Dname start
# where Dname is the daemon you wish to start
Or to restart (stop & start) just switch start to restart
And to stop a daemon switch start with stop.
--
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ID # 123538
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