Linux-Misc Digest #130, Volume #27 Sat, 17 Feb 01 01:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Simple Question on File Extension (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: User migrating from winders, to Linux. Need advice on programs. (Mark Post)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
ipchains ("- = k o l i s k o = -")
Dial-in PPP server domain issue (Erik Aaboe)
Re: netcrap locks me up (Drew Roedersheimer)
Re: Intruder (Arthur Pedyczak)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Todd")
Re: Default path to include .h header files under linux with gcc (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Mandrake 7.2 network install blues! HELP HELP! (Eric Morgan)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Charlie Ebert)
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple Question on File Extension
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:56:17 -0500
George Bell wrote:
>
> O.K. Thanks. It was a file in a cgi-bin directory.
>
> If I may ask, what is the usual file extension for an executable file? I
> thought later maybe it was some kind of executable file.
>
There is no usual extension on executable files, because Linux,
unlike some brain-damaged operating systems, can tell if a file is
executable in ways other than by looking at extensions. For example,
here is a directory where I keep my longer-term executables:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ ls -l bin
total 8492
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 871054 Jan 5 11:45 BTD5
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 864482 Jan 5 11:45 RP4
-rwx------ 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 252 Mar 21 2000 THIN
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 852686 Jan 5 11:45 UG5
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 656661 Jan 3 22:54 enter_dow
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 865377 Jan 3 22:55 enter_ibd
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 866346 Jan 3 22:54 enter_mfdb
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 904158 Jan 3 22:55 enter_prices
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 899502 Jan 3 22:55 enter_sux
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 1011782 Jan 3 22:54 enter_vl
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 574959 Jan 3 22:54 fix_names
-rwxr-x--- 1 jdbeyer jdbeyer 252305 Jan 3 22:55 thin_prices
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ file bin/*
bin/BTD5: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1,
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not strippedbin/RP4:
ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically
linked (uses shared libs), not strippedbin/THIN:
Bourne-Again shell script text
bin/UG5: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1,
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not strippedbin/enter_dow:
ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically
linked (uses shared libs), not strippedbin/enter_ibd: ELF 32-bit
LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses
shared libs), not strippedbin/enter_mfdb: ELF 32-bit LSB
executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared
libs), not strippedbin/enter_prices: ELF 32-bit LSB executable,
Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
strippedbin/enter_sux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
strippedbin/enter_vl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
strippedbin/fix_names: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
strippedbin/thin_prices: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386,
version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not
strippedvalinux:jdbeyer[~]$
The ORIGINAL executable file, the only one you could get, in the
early days of the Unix Operating System, was named a.out (you could
rename it with /bin/mv). So, classically, the usual file extension
might be .out. But it is no longer really usual. Really, Unix and
linux do not have extensions at all. There may be a dot in a
filename, but that is not the same as what that large manufacturer
of proprietary binary only operating systems needs to compensate for
its brain-damaged software.
Remember what Douglas Adams said about their stuff (though he
disguised the name somewhat):
"It is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them
[the products of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation's products] by the
sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all.
"In other words -- and this is the rock-solid principle on which the
whole of the Corporation's Galaxywide succes is founded -- their
fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial
design flaws."
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 10:45pm up 19 days, 7:12, 4 users, load average: 2.13, 2.12,
2.09
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: User migrating from winders, to Linux. Need advice on programs.
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:19:55 GMT
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:09:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin C. Redden) wrote:
>Hi all: I'm finally making the migration from linux to windows. What I
>need now, is advice on programs. I want to get linux equals of
>programs I use now on windows, and wondering if you can help?
>
>I'd like to get freeware versions, with the same power, if possible. I
>hate it, cause I bought some packages and can't use them in Linux.
>
>What I'm using now is as follows:
>
>Graphics manipulation program: Paint Shop Pro 7, and Adobe Photoshop 5
The GIMP. http://www.gimp.org
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:25:54 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Bloody Viking wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Walt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> > > > > : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> > > > > : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> > > > >
> > > > > And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> > > > > the election debacle that ensued.
> > > >
> > > > So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> > > > counties?
> > >
> > > it's a simple matter of statistics. imagine two voting districts.
> > > one 70% repulican, 30% democrat. one 30% R and 70% D.
> > > say that 10% of all ballots are not counted for whatever reason.
> > > suppose further that political affiliation is independent to
> > > counted/uncounted ballots. then, every ballot recovered in the
> > > former, largely republican district, will be more likely to be
> > > republican. in the latter district, they will tend to be democratic.
> > > of course gore will push for a recount where it will help him most.
> > >
> >
> > It still doesn't change the fact that by challenging their counts,
> > Gore was calling the Democrat-run election boards a bunch of liars.
>
> are you trying to imply that al gore challenged the results in
> democrat controlled voting districts in order to call them a bunch of
> liars?
That's the ONLY possible message.
Gore didn't believe the account of the Democrat-majority
election boards....
> or are you trying to change the subject?
....either that, or he was counting on them to commit
vote-fraud in his favor.
There are no other possibilities.
>
> >
> > > both parties did what they could to win. believing the rhetoric of
> > > either of them is silly.
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:33:05 -0500
Robert Surenko wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It's possible that Christ existed, in fact I think there's more evidence than
> > just the bible to suggest that. Nothing though suggests he was anything more
> > than a jewish revolutionary who spoke out against the Romans. In fact there
> > was some more evidence about that discovered recently, the subject of an
> > interesting documentary called "the real jesus christ". It put everything in a
> > historical perspective and made a lot of sense. About how Paul used the death
> > of Jesus to create a religion, and hid the real man behind stories of
> > miracles etc. Very interesting stuff and lots of political intrigue and
> > infighting.
>
> Yes, it is possible to believe a event happened in the past...even
> if the event can't be repeated.
>
> That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
> was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
> proving a historical event.
Zapruder film.
Autopsy.
Funeral.
Case closed.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "- = k o l i s k o = -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ipchains
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:52:09 +0100
Hi.
My network situation:
192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 194.24.227.236
Sistel company LAN --------- (eth0) linux firewall (ppp0) ------------
internet
my ipchains configuration:
================ cat begin ===================
# Vycisteni ipchains
ipchains -F
ipchains -X
# vytvoreni SISTEL--INTERNET
ipchains -N s--i
# vse co prochazi ze SISTEL do INTERNETu
ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -i ppp0 -j s--i
ipchains -A forward -j DENY -l
ipchains -A s--i -s 192.168.1.20 -j DENY
ipchains -A s--i -s 192.168.1.21 -j DENY
ipchains -A s--i -p tcp --dport www -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p tcp --dport pop3 -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p tcp --dport ftp -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p tcp --dport domain -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p udp --dport domain -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p icmp --icmp-type ping -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -p udp --dport 33434:33500 -j MASQ
ipchains -A s--i -j DENY
# definice ICMP-ACCEPT
ipchains -N icmp-acc
ipchains -A icmp-acc -p icmp --icmp-type destination-unreachable -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A icmp-acc -p icmp --icmp-type source-quench -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A icmp-acc -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A icmp-acc -p icmp --icmp-type parameter-problem -j ACCEPT
# vytvoreni SYSTEL-INTERFACE, INTERNET-INTERFACE
ipchains -N s-if
ipchains -N i-if
# pravidla pro INTERNET-INTERFACE
ipchains -A input -d 194.24.227.236 -j i-if
ipchains -A i-if -s 194.24.224.0/27 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A i-if -i ! ppp0 -j DENY -l
ipchains -A i-if -p TCP --dport 61000:65095 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A i-if -p UDP --dport 61000:65095 -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A i-if -p ICMP --icmp-type pong -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A i-if -p ICMP --icmp-type ping -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A i-if -j icmp-acc
ipchains -A i-if -j DENY -l
# pravidla pro SISTEL-INTERFACE
ipchains -A input -d 192.168.1.1 -j s-if
ipchains -A s-if -i ! eth0 -j DENY -l
ipchains -A s-if -p ICMP --icmp-type ping -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A s-if -p ICMP --icmp-type pong -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A s-if -j icmp-acc
ipchains -A s-if -j DENY -l
# vypis pravidel firewallu
ipchains -L -n
===========================cat end===============================
Is possible to allow all connection from firewall to the internet?
In example firewall to be ftp client.
But still must be DENY all access from Internet to the firewall.
Thank You for help!
--
S pozdravem,
Michal Kolesar
+420 608 225025
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.egarden.cz
server of free unix services
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From: Erik Aaboe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Dial-in PPP server domain issue
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:33:19 -0700
Hello-
I have set up a networked RedHat 6.1 box at work to accept incoming dial
in calls from my W95 machine at home. The server runs mgetty. I can dial
in and start ppp and all works, except that all requests to get out of
the server onto my work network require the fully qualified domain name.
For example, to connect to my intranet server, i need to address to
intranet.mydomain.com, i cannot just address to intranet. DNS works but
I need the FQDN for internal sites. Here is my /etc/ppp/options file,
did I mess something up?
#-detach
asyncmap 0
modem
crtscts
lock
require-pap
refuse-chap
login
domain mydomain.com
proxyarp
netmask 255.255.255.0
ms-dns 172.17.5.4
ms-dns 172.20.8.3
172.17.20.52:172.17.20.46
Thanks,
Erik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Drew Roedersheimer)
Subject: Re: netcrap locks me up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:08:41 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:51:49 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
>Can't remember the details of the adduser problem, just that I got tired of
>fighting it. Easier to fight humans...
>
What distro do you use? There's always an explanation for these types of
things - in most cases, I'm just too damn stubborn to give up the fight
without figuring out the problem - plus I learn a bunch along the way.
BTW, no offense, but you don't seem to lack this same type of obstinate
attitude. Sure someone hasn't cracked your root account and replaced
adduser? ;-)
>"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
>> Then they are complaining that they don't have a single braincell.
>> Netscape is a userspace application. It doesn't care who runs it.
>> That's why you CAN run it as root ...
>
>It comes up frequently in the netscape newsgroups. Never been my problem,
>so I never read the messages.
>
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but my news server doesn't bring up any netscape
newsgroups - no matter how I search for them. I've tried *nets*, *navig*,
and *commun* - nothing related to netscape that I've seen. I suppose I
could have tried *browser* - but now I'm too lazy...
>> > Three years and still alive. So far, so good, and way better than win9*.
>>
>> .. and of course you know why you shouldn't. You really hate those
>> 512MB core files all over your system tree don't you!
>
>Nope, haven't had any of those for a long time. What does not kill me
>makes me stronger.
>
That's a pretty bold attitude... Things much worse than huge core files
can pop up if you always run as root - I hope you're a better typist than I
(most are)...cause a little slip up like `rm -rf / home/user/tmp` will
make you wish you hadn't run everything as root. And believe me, I've heard
of (and seen) extremely experienced unix admins do things very similar to this
nightmare. Sure, if you keep nightly backups, you can bring the system back
up to snuff, but why risk it?
>> And then there
>> are the vicious javascript attack pages. Seen the one with the roaring
>> bear?
>
>Nope. More often than not I see java/javascript pages as almost totally
>blank, which in many cases is probably a positive boon. Shame that there
>are places I have to go that use the stuff.
>
>--
>Cheers,
>Bev
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Of course SoCal has four seasons:
>Earthquake, Mudslide, Brushfire, and Riot
The point is, there is no justification for running everything as root.
That is why these security measures are in place. I do *alot* of
maintenance on my system, and su is always better than running as root
- be it for network safety, or simply one extra measure for keeping you
from doing something stupid. And if typing in a measly password so you
can do some maintenance is too much work, then you won't last long as a
serious sys admin - plus any joe schmo half-whit won't think much of you
as a serious *nix user. Think of it this way - even NT tries to keep
administrators separate from regular users...
Enough of my ranting
-DR
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From: Arthur Pedyczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intruder
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:15:42 GMT
rc wrote:
>
> Linux 6.2
>
> --
> Roberto Cerini
> CCS, Inc.
> "Silviu Minut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What distribution were you running?
> >
> > rc wrote:
> >
> > > I had someone FTP intp the system with a userid Jim and then the
> messages
> > > log file said he su'd to ro0t, not root. How could he do that and what
> is
> > > ro0t?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roberto
> >
Your box was broken into. It looks rather obvious.
If you were running RedHat 6.2 and did not upgrade your ftp server, and
had anonymous ftp enabled, you were _VERY_ exposed to an exploit known
as 7350wu. It takes 30 second to gain remote root.
My advice:
1. disconnect the box from internet
2. reinstall
3. disable all services and enable all the ones you _REALLY_ need
4. monitor your distribution's web site (www.redhat.com in your case)
for security updates
5. see the whole affair as a lesson learned
cheers
Arthur
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:23:23 +0800
"Mark Bratcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:54:03 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:00:09 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>>>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:45 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>>>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>Perhaps, although humankind existed for 100,000 years without
> >>>>formal science... 3 or 4 hundred years is probably not enough time
> >>
> >>> So. That doesn't have any relevance to your own existence.
> >>
> >>I'm sure that ethics had a part to play in my eventual existence.
> >>
> >>Our parent's didn't strangle either of us at birth. I can't imagine
> >>Science had anything to do with that.
> >
> > Sure it did.
> >
> > It avoided the conditions necessary for such issues to
> > actually exist. You and your ancestors have lead rather
> > sheltered lives compared to those animals that find the
> > need to eat their young.
> >
> > Also, despite your protestations: in more "spiritual"
> > days you would have been considered the property of
> > your father to be disposed of accordingly.
>
> PMFJI... but "disposed of accordingly" in "more 'spiritual' days"?
> Could you be more specific? The only period of time I see more universal
> "disposal" of offspring outside of primitive cultures is in modern
> days (viz. abortion). What your describing certainly was not true in
> family culture described in the Old Testament.
How do you know what is written in the "Old Testament" is true?
I've found most Christians either very hypocritical or just plain
disillusioned and wrong.
Remember when Christians thought the earth was the center of the universe?
Heh. Time after time, scientists prove Christians wrong again and again.
Religion sucks. All it does is gives man another reason to hate one
another.
-Todd
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> That is just empty rhetoric on your part. The fact still
> >>> remains that you only exist because technology has allowed
> >>> you and your forebears to live and thrive. Unless you are
> >>> Amish, just about anything you have is a result of this
> >>> 'highly questionable' scientific method that is taken on
> >>> faith.
> >>
> >>I agree, so what. I'm saying that Science depends on faith.
> >
> > That the universe works in a predictable fashion is not
> > an article of faith. It is an axiom that is time tested.
>
> Ah, and there lies the rub. Scientists over some period of time have
> "pet" theories and notions that, although they are theories and have
> indeed been confirmed for the time being, become axioms which make
> them unquestioned assumptions to be defended to the death.
>
> There's an interesting book, too bad it's out of print, called
> "Science is a Sacred Cow" that discusses this issue.
>
> [snip]
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> To reply, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Default path to include .h header files under linux with gcc
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:34:39 +0100
Ramin Sina wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Suppose I have a C file with a header include statement #include "foo.h".
> Does anyone know what path is searched to find this header file for Red
> Hat 6.2 and Calder eDesktop 2.4?
If you run gcc with the -v flag (e.g. gcc -v foo.c) gcc will tell you,
what searchpath it is using. To add another directory to the searchpath,
use the -I flag (e.g gcc -I/home/sina/foo foo.c)
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:37:29 -0000
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:05:39 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:45:14 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Bloody Viking wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Walt wrote:
>> >>
>> >> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
>> >> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
>> >> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
>> >>
>> >> And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
>> >> the election debacle that ensued.
>> >
>> >So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
>> >counties?
>>
>> Republican dominated counties probably didn't have hordes
>> of upset republicans demanding a recount. If there's no
>> uproar, there really isn't any point to Gore serving as
>> champion.
>>
>> >
>> >Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
>> >a Democrat election board to do things properly?
>> [deletia]
>>
>> No, you just can't see past your GOP reality filters.
>>
>
>What part of LIBERTARIAN do you not understand?
I understand well enough to know that the label is quite
often total bullshit. I wasn't just hatched yesterday.
Many Libertarians and Federalists are nothing more than
Republicans going by a different name.
[deletia]
--
>
> ...then there's that NSA version of Linux...
This would explain the Mars polar lander problem.
Kyle Jacobs, COLA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:39:18 -0000
On 16 Feb 2001 23:36:41 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
>: was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
>: proving a historical event.
>
>WTF does that have to do with materialism?
Whether or not JFK was shot or not is a question of history.
The techniques of historians are not the subject of this discussion.
--
Freedom != Anarchy.
Some must be "opressed" in order for their
actions not to oppress the rest of us.
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From: Eric Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 network install blues! HELP HELP!
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:45:27 GMT
I installed Mandrake 7.2 flawlessly on my main machine with a grub dual
boot with WinMe. The system is a Celeron 366 (OC to 587) with 192MB 20GB
HD etc..
Installed from bootable CD Rom.
I then compiled Apache, MySQl and PHP with no problems. I mounted the
Mandrake CDROM as htdocs and can browse the mandrake CD from other
machines on my network.
I am trying to install mandrake on a crappy little PC with Cyrix 166,
24MB, 2GB HD (two drives), and undentifiable PCI graphics card and an
ISA network card. I use the network.img and boot, give it NE driver,
tell it 0x220 and IRQ 10 and give it the network info (ie domain etc)
all fine. I tell it the IP address of the mandrake machine and tell it /
for the directory. It spins up the CDROM drive on my main machine
running the apache server with the disk starts loading the 2nd stage RAM
disk then terminates abnormally signal 9 received. Sends kill all and
tells me safe to reboot.
If I do the exact same procedure with Redhat 6.1 it works no problem.
Any clues?
Please dont suggest "Just use Redhat" as I have reasons not to do so or
I wouldnt be asking =)
You can reply or email me by removing NOSPAM from my email address
provided!
Thanks a ton for any help you can provide!
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:50:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
>
>Robert Surenko wrote:
>>
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Ian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > It's possible that Christ existed, in fact I think there's more evidence than
>> > just the bible to suggest that. Nothing though suggests he was anything more
>> > than a jewish revolutionary who spoke out against the Romans. In fact there
>> > was some more evidence about that discovered recently, the subject of an
>> > interesting documentary called "the real jesus christ". It put everything in a
>> > historical perspective and made a lot of sense. About how Paul used the death
>> > of Jesus to create a religion, and hid the real man behind stories of
>> > miracles etc. Very interesting stuff and lots of political intrigue and
>> > infighting.
>>
>> Yes, it is possible to believe a event happened in the past...even
>> if the event can't be repeated.
>>
>> That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
>> was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
>> proving a historical event.
>
>Zapruder film.
>Autopsy.
>Funeral.
>
>Case closed.
>
For a country which invented atomic weapons and put a man on the moon,
this investigation of JFK's was just like a county paid pine box burial.
JFK put the world close to nuclear war and this was *THEIR* answer
for JFK. That's what I believe.
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
--
Charlie
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