Linux-Misc Digest #164, Volume #24 Sun, 16 Apr 00 07:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To: New Version (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U (Peter T. Breuer)
Alternatives to MS Exchange? (Allen Unrau)
Re: Path on stdin... file on stdout? (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... (Don Sacramento)
Re: Does append in LILO really append? (Norman Jordan)
Re: Is Linux good for Data Centers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Copying NTFS, ext2 partitions (Alex Jenner)
Re: MIDI/Red Hat 6 How to set up? (John Littler)
Re: LILO troubles with mixed SCSI/EIDE disks ("Dave Stanton")
GNOBE not working ("KP")
SuSE-new filemanager-sunsystem? ("Peter")
Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: promise ata66 control card (wayne rattz)
Can't tar (Pisces)
uninstaling corel linux ("SaNaTiZeR")
Re: Can't tar (J Bland)
Re: Microsoft (Bastian)
Re: Can't tar (Bastian)
Serial TCP/IP connection ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Alternatives to MS Exchange? ("Brian D. Smith")
Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... ("Johnno")
Re: How to configure HP660C printer on Red Hat 6.1 (Mark Bratcher)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (David Steuber)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To: New Version
Date: 16 Apr 2000 08:17:35 +0100
Yves Bellefeuille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: (cd / && tar cpf - . --exclude new-disk --exclude proc) |
: (cd /new-disk && tar xpf -)
: The intent of the --exclude options was that /new-disk and /proc not be
The usual method is to use the "l" flag. Stay on "local" file system.
tar cplvfC - / . | tar xplvfC - /new-disk
and repeat for other partitions. Viz:
tar cplvfC - /usr . | tar xplvfC - /new-disk/usr
etc.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U
Date: 16 Apr 2000 08:22:53 +0100
Jimmy Navarro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I just bought a new IBM Thinkpad 390X 2626F0U with 64MB RAM 4.8GB HD
: pre-partitioned into two, first partition has pre-loaded Windows 98.
: Now I want Linux Red Hat 6.1 or Mandrake 7.0 in the 2.5 GB remaining
: space. I tried simple install just configuring swap for 64MB and
: install script would do the rest somehow never worked may be because I'm
: so used to the text_based install not the GUI install. Anyone can
: kindly give me their best suggested partitioning scheme manually like
: 64MB for Swap, /root for how many MB, /var, /home /usr, etc...? I'd
: like to allocate partitions manually. Thanks.
Read the Partition-HOWTO.
Peter
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From: Allen Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alternatives to MS Exchange?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:43:33 GMT
I am currently researching Linux-based e-mail servers. I have found many
'standard' mail servers (SMTP/POP3) but there seems to be a lack of
packages that offer features similar to MS Exchange (calandering, task
lists, etc.). Is there anything out there that can do e-mail as well as
scheduling, etc.?
thanks
allen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Path on stdin... file on stdout?
Date: 16 Apr 2000 09:01:15 +0100
Dowe Keller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:04:57 -0000, Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >This is an embarrassingly easy question I'm sure but;
: >
: >I need a command that takes the path to a file on stdin and then copies that
: >file to stdout.
man cat
Peter
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From: Don Sacramento <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,aus.computers.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:31:53 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tux wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Do I have to reinstall Linux if I forgot my root password, or is there
> some way to get back into the system without doing this...???
>
> Thanks..
Tux,
I hope this would solve your problem...At the linux LILO prompt keyin
'linux single'. This will start your linux on a single user mode, you
will now get a root shell access.
Through this access you can gain access to the file /etc/shadow. Edit the
file /etc/shadow using vi editor. Delete from the second field of the
root id (those set of characters stands for your encyrpted password)..
The field is similar to the one below.
root:Ai745$djf:11062:0:999999:7
1)Delete all the set of characters from the second field ( next to the
'root:'). Save then exit the shadow file.
2) then type the command 'password' from the bash..
3) you will be now asked for a new password.
4) key in your password
5) you now have the new password for your linux....
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From: Norman Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does append in LILO really append?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 07:33:45 GMT
I've used it just fine for getting the kernel to recognize both of my
ethernet cards when I boot up, with the drivers compiled into the kernel.
You shouldn't see the append, but it should still work. I don't think that
the append in LILO will work for modules.
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> Am I supposed to see the entry appear at the LILO prompt? I really don't
> see any 'append' taking place, and the dmesg seems to confirm that my
> parms were ignored:
> append = "sbpcd=0x230,1"
> (this was the result of a modprobe, fyi)
> I even ran LILO after I made the entry.
> This is on Mandrake 6.1
> --
> jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> Registered linux user no. 164098
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,sg.linux
Subject: Re: Is Linux good for Data Centers?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:42:48 GMT
Then you must be running a rather crappy version of gnulinux as mine
(debian) demands the root passwd before giving you a root shell,
otherwise it continues up the runlevels normally.
However, I was not saying that a linux system or any other system is
totally secure in itself. The whole point of a data center is to process
data, most of this data comes from clerks doing data entry (although
there are exceptions). Linux systems would make excellent
desktops/workstations for such clerks for all of the reasons mentioned
before. Such centers are huge, with hundreds of people working 24-7,
with unpleasant armed guards and cameras.
In such an environment you are always being watched.
Rebooting would be noticed*, pulling out a bootdisk would be noticed
(Few of these places even allow bookbags, purses or any personal
possessions to be taken to the workstations anyway). Anyone attempting
shenannigans would be grabbed, fired, and out the door long before they
could do anything "cool".
*Either by a human or by network management software.
_____________________________________________________________________
Deja sucks, I posted a reply on this 3 or 4 days ago but they lost it
In article <8c098u$gh1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Granted, nothing is really secure, but
> > a clerk isn't going to be able to sit there all day trying to hack
his
> > way into root on his local box.
> Offtopic, but if you have physical access to the console, gaining root
> is trivial. On boot, type:
> linux single
> at prompt, type:
> su
> passwd
> Done.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Alex Jenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nz.comp,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc
Subject: Re: Copying NTFS, ext2 partitions
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:57:27 +1200
Matthew Stevenson wrote:
>
> > >Ditto for the Linux/ext2 partition. Will a plain cp -dpR from a boot
> > >floppy work (i'm worried about hard links, mainly) or should I use
> > >something else?
> >
> > No. Bad, bad idea: cp does not properly copy block devices, symbolic links,
> > or file ownership.
>
> try: cp -a /dev /tmp
>
> that should work.
Hi Mattew,
Try: "man 1 cp" or for those who aren't running Linux or Slackware users
who forgot to install groff ;-) try some online man pages:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cp&sektion=1&manpath=Linux&format=html
OPTIONS
-a, --archive
Preserve as much as possible of the structure and
attributes of the original files in the copy. The
same as -dpR.
----
So what you meant to say was yes, cp -dpR will work :-)
>
> Matthew Stevenson
> University of Auckland
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best Regards
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Alex Jenner - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: MIDI/Red Hat 6 How to set up?
From: John Littler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Apr 2000 11:49:53 +1000
Try setting up your sound card with sndconfig before you set up
your modem (that used to be a bug in sndconfig - not sure if it's
still true)
Get a sequencer app like jazz++ (www.jazzware.com) ...
it has a menu item for setting up midi devices.
Cheers
John
--
http://linuxmusic.cjb.net
pgp public key @ http://www.crosswinds.net/~linuxmusic/pubring.html
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO troubles with mixed SCSI/EIDE disks
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 05:58:42 +0100
Nylon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello Folks,
>
> I'm looking for some hints about a problem with getting my
> system to boot correclty
> using LILO.
>
> The scenario is the following:
> - Award BIOS v4.51PG let me choose hunt sequence:
> SCSI,C,A/C,SCSI,A, etc.
> - Main system has 3 large EIDE disks and 1 CD-ROM.
> - SCSI bay, external self-powered, has 2 large disks and 1
> DAT
>
> Config:
> - First EIDE has W95
> - First SCSI has Linux
>
> Ideal boot:
> - Let 1st EIDE have his MBR unaltered
> - Let LILO on 1st SCSI's MBR
> - Let BIOS hunt for SCSI,C,A
>
> In this case, if SCSI bay is not powered-up at system
> startup,
> BIOS will just boot W95 (SCSI-less).
> If SCSI bay is available, then LILO will prompt
> for what to boot...
>
> Some debugging:
> When
> - BIOS hunts for C,SCSI,A/C,A,SCSI
> - LILO is on /dev/hda
> - lilo.conf specifies that
> device = /dev/sda
> bios = 0x83
>
> LILO can boot (Linux, W95) correctly.
>
> When
> - BIOS hunts for SCSI,C,A/SCSI,A,C
> - LILO is on /dev/sda
> - lilo.conf states that
> device = /dev/sda
> bios = 0x80
> device = /dev/hda
> bios = 0x82
>
> LILO can boot just Linux.
> When W95 is requested, loading starts but hangs.
> ...loading W95
>
>
> What can be wrong?
> Why it works fine booting from /dev/hda and not from
> /dev/sda?
Hi
Theres quite a bit about this on the web, I ran into this prob and just
turned off the ide drives in the bios. Linux boots from the scsi drive and
still finds the ide drives ok. You can modify Lilo to get round this prob by
tellin it where to boot from. I have some txt files on it if you are
interested. I could email to you, let me know.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "KP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOBE not working
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:36:48 -0700
Reply-To: "KP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have Redhat 6.2 and I have been using the KKE or whatever it is called
and I switched to the GNOBE desktop and I can move the mouse around and
click on stuff, but nothing happens. I tried switching back to KKE at the
command prompt and also the icon, but it won't work. Does anyone know what I
should do to fix this?
KP
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From: "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE-new filemanager-sunsystem?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:48:34 +0200
I've heard that in SuSE 6.4 there is a new filemanager which works and looks
like a sunsystem. Where do I find this and what's its name?
Thanks Peter
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IBM ThinkPad 390X 2626F0U
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:48:04 -0700
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Yeap right, read the HOW-TO or buy Linux for dummies, what else.
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Jimmy Navarro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I just bought a new IBM Thinkpad 390X 2626F0U with 64MB RAM 4.8GB HD
> : pre-partitioned into two, first partition has pre-loaded Windows 98.
> : Now I want Linux Red Hat 6.1 or Mandrake 7.0 in the 2.5 GB remaining
> : space. I tried simple install just configuring swap for 64MB and
> : install script would do the rest somehow never worked may be because I'm
> : so used to the text_based install not the GUI install. Anyone can
> : kindly give me their best suggested partitioning scheme manually like
> : 64MB for Swap, /root for how many MB, /var, /home /usr, etc...? I'd
> : like to allocate partitions manually. Thanks.
>
> Read the Partition-HOWTO.
>
> Peter
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 06:03:36 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 10 Apr 2000 10:41:56 GMT, James Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >what M$ really need todo is almost scrap the whoel lot and start again
> >and do it properly (they can afford to)
> >
>
> They supposidly did w/ NT. The problem is that their architects are
> morons.
have you ever seen any of their code samples????
Fucking GOTO's all over the place.
I've seen better code written in goddamned BASIC.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: wayne rattz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: promise ata66 control card
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 05:30:17 GMT
HELLO:All that is really needed is to tell linux where to look for your
hard drive which is in this case ide2 (the controller card).
Ide0 and ide1 are the sockets on your motherboard.Go to my site and use
the promise ultra66 howto.
It dosen envolve applying patches or installind drivers.Its a matter of
telling linux where to look.
For the main page its http://www.geocities.com/wrattz/linux1.html Click on
the howto's on the top right side of the page.Go to the second page.good
luck wayne!
can orhan wrote:
>
> I have a WD27.2 ata66 drive and win2k and redhat 6.1 is installed on it
> but my motherboard does not support ata66 for that reason i bought a
> promise controller card but i could not run it using the controller card
> when i connect the card it says drive not found error even i tried to
> install 6.2 on it
>
> can you pls help me
>
> Thanks
> Can
>
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http://www.help.com/
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Subject: Can't tar
From: Pisces <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:44:59 -0700
Excuse me, I have a apsfilter.tar I wanted to extract the archive
file. how do I do it?
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From: "SaNaTiZeR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: uninstaling corel linux
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:29:34 +0100
how ?
i have a duel boot win98 corel linux
linux is installed on seperate hard drive.
ne1 help please?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Can't tar
Date: 16 Apr 2000 10:31:54 GMT
>Excuse me, I have a apsfilter.tar I wanted to extract the archive
>file. how do I do it?
>
tar --help will list all the switches and brief explanations of them
but specifically for your problem you would use (usually):
tar xvf apsfilter.tar
x - extract
v - be verbose about what it's doing
f - use this file as the source (apsfiler.tar in this case)
I recommend you learn tar well, you'll be using it a *lot*.
JB
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: Microsoft
Date: 16 Apr 2000 10:48:44 GMT
I read Jan's list, and I give up. I'm helpless... :-)
Bastian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: Can't tar
Date: 16 Apr 2000 10:48:45 GMT
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:44:59 -0700, Pisces wrote:
>Excuse me, I have a apsfilter.tar I wanted to extract the archive
>file. how do I do it?
man tar
Bastian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Serial TCP/IP connection
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:37:47 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to find a way to establish a TCP/IP connection trough the
COM port between a Linux PC and a Windows PC, without a modem. I've
already thought of SLIP, but my problem is how to connect on the Win
side. PPP would be nice, but I can't get Win to use the simple cable
connection as the default modem (it figures... :-). Anybody has any
ideas?
Any input is welcomed.
Carlos Alfaro
http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~cmca
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Brian D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alternatives to MS Exchange?
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:50:38 GMT
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I read something recently about HP OpenMail as a viable alternative to
MS Exchange. I haven't used it, so I can't comment on it, but the
marketing promo looked intriguing.
- -Brian Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allen Unrau wrote:
>
> I am currently researching Linux-based e-mail servers. I have found
many
> 'standard' mail servers (SMTP/POP3) but there seems to be a lack of
> packages that offer features similar to MS Exchange (calandering,
task
> lists, etc.). Is there anything out there that can do e-mail as well
as
> scheduling, etc.?
>
> thanks
>
> allen
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From: "Johnno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,aus.computers.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:53:07 GMT
"Don Sacramento" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do I have to reinstall Linux if I forgot my root password, or is
> > there some way to get back into the system without doing this
> I hope this would solve your problem...At the linux LILO prompt
> keyin 'linux single'. This will start your linux on a single user mode,
> you will now get a root shell access. Through this access you can
> gain access to the file /etc/shadow. Edit the file /etc/shadow using
> vi editor. Delete from the second field of the root id (those set of
> characters stands for your encyrpted password).. The field is
> similar to the one below.
>
> root:Ai745$djf:11062:0:999999:7
>
> 1)Delete all the set of characters from the second field ( next to the
> 'root:'). Save then exit the shadow file.
> 2) then type the command 'password' from the bash..
> 3) you will be now asked for a new password.
> 4) key in your password
> 5) you now have the new password for your linux....
Once he has booted into single-user mode, all he needs to do is run "passwd"
(not "password") and type a new root password when prompted.
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to configure HP660C printer on Red Hat 6.1
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 06:56:26 -0400
Andras wrote:
>
> Garel wrote:
> >
> > I use HP660C and it was not auto-detected. So I use control panel and
> > configure the printer. I set local and add plus using the /dev/lp0 and lp1
> > and lp2 but it still will not print. What is the cause of it.
>
> first thing first.
>
> What if as a root you type:
> echo "Hello World" > /dev/lp0
You might have to add the following to get output:
echo "^L" > /dev/lp0
where "^L" is a form feed (ctrl-L)
>
> do you get any result?
>
> if not, you have to play around with kernel modules for the parallel
> port. if it's ok, then use the printtol (or whatever) from control
> panel.
>
> Andras
>
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles. Use Linux!
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Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:00:02 GMT
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' This is a point worth noting. Microsoft has not been innovative
' in regard to computer technology itself, and finding a few rare
' examples where it has merely proves the point... but Microsoft
' has been *exceedingly* innovative at making money in the
' computer field. Many other companies have come, and gone. A few
' others have done relatively well for a while, but only very few
' have consistently done well.
Actually, the techniques used by Microsoft were used earlier by
Standard Oil. Microsoft isn't even inovative when it comes to
breaking the law.
--
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NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.packetphone.org/
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I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today --
I think he's from the CIA.
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