Linux-Misc Digest #164, Volume #25 Tue, 18 Jul 00 02:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Video Capture Card for Linux? (Andras)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: KPPP problem (Justo M. Casablanca)
Re: Can't restart Win98 box in DOS after Linux install
How to install soundcard? (Siw Sang Yau)
Re: How to install soundcard? ("Al Morgan")
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Voice Recording ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE? (blowfish)
Re: undelete directory? (blowfish)
Re: BroadCast 2000 Guide (blowfish)
Re: softraid problem with SuSE 6.4 and 2.2.x kernel (blowfish)
Re: screensaver or similar generating problem (Akira Yamanita)
client denied by (Cesar Serna)
locked mail, cannot read it with elm (Volodja Koczki)
Problem with self-built linux (derived from Debian/Woody) (Robert Heine)
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From: Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Video Capture Card for Linux?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:20:45 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Check out http://penguin.lvcm.com/ click on "Video Capture" in the
> sidebar. There is a family of chipsets from Brooktree (Bttv this and
> that) that are used in a lot of video tuner cards (including my own
> STB TV card), and well supported under linux. If you know how to rebuild
> a kernel, when doing a "make config" or better, a "make menuconfig" or
> "make xconfig", there is a section in the build devoted to TV cards.
>
Depending of course on the kernel version.
2.3.X kernels have better support for video stuff,
but after some hard work I succeeded to get it in my 2.2.14 kernel,
but you should download some extra stuff for it.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:27:49 -0700
Homer Jay wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:49 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> >> I'm choosing between distros and would like to NOT be stuck with a
> >> distro that can't find the "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
> >> updates, KDE updates, editors.
> >> Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and Mandrake. But when all
> >> is counted, what % of RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for RH
> >> and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
>
> >Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
> >Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
> >won't work on SuSE or RH.
> >But most rpm and .deb will work on *BSD. Especially FreeBSD.
> >Some Linux apps even run better on BSD than on Linux native. Even rpms.
> >-blowfish.
> That's interesting. Why do you suppose that is? And, why would the
> software run better on a BSD kernel?
*BSD is a lot more mature. BSD started in the mid '80s. With like a 15
years ahead of any Linux.
BSD are pretty focused, and unlike Linux, it basic code base is
controled by a selected few, who has the final saying. Even the
developers are spread out all over the world.
Take OpenBSD for example. All the default installed stuff have all be
code audited by the choosen fews, so, those can be installed by default,
if you choosen so. The basic OpenBSD install is just the kernel, the few
most important utilities for building the system in /etc/rc.
And all the unaudited apps from 3rd parties are the catagorised as
contributed.
The *BSD kernel is really lean and mean, and solid like a rock. Other
than 3rd party app's crashes, the *only* way I could crash a BSD system
is to unplug the UPS, then cut the power off without a proper shutdown,
and it didn't even complain upon reboot.
And building the kernel is a breeze, 99.99% idiot proof. Even if you
groofed, 90% of the time your system can still boot up, without looking
for your rescue boot floppy. (when you do a custom kernel, it save the
original kernel away as GENERIC.PREV , or GENERIC.OLD, or something
similar. So, if your new kernel won't boot properly, just power off and
onagain, at the prompt, just type in boot KERNEL.PREV, and it'll starts
right up as nothing has ever happened. And the configuration of the
kernel is so simple and easy. Just put a # infront of what you don't
want, and drlete the # from what you want, save and exit. then, just
./configure, make , make depend, make install, make clean and you're
done. As long as you can read and understand basic English language, you
CAN do it in a minute or two. And you don't have the messy stuff to deal
with like LILO.
The Linux emulation in BSD is just superb. I've hacked some Linux apps
over to run on BSD and vice versa, (*SuSE 6.4 even have a BSD MAKE
option! ;-)) BSD also has a 'Sharity" which can access WinNT, much
simplier and skinner than Samba. And FreeBSD have a few other OS/s
emulation as well.
With BSD, you don't have to deal with "Kernel de jour" like with Linux,
just subscribe to its mailing list, if you see a security alert, then
just CVSUP the diff, then a simple make and you're done. You can upgrade
the whole fresking system with CVS unattended every night if you want.
And no stupid RPM craps, it fetch all the sources, dependency files'
source, MD5 checked, then added the BSD patch, configure, make, install
and clean for you, all with a single line of command.
If the update failed . It'll tells you exactly what the problem is
(mostly is a server unreachable when it try to fetch, and it'll tells
you where to find it, and how to reinstall that particular app.
Everythin compiled from this works, I haven't run into a single broken
apps yet. Try that with Red Hat.
In my opinion. (flame retarded suit on, since I'm in a Linux group here,
even I use Linux too myself, as well as BSDs.) The *BSD code base is a
lot more solid and well developed, and *MUCH MORE* logically throught
out than most Linux.
My initial GNU/Opensource was from Slackware in '94, then Red Hat, now I
use SuSE, OpenBSD and FreeBSD exclusively for 2 full years now. No
freaking dual boot Windoz crap either. ;P
Try it. You might like it. And many of what you know from linux can be
cross applied to BSD, and vice versa. If you know Linux well (i.e.: not
relying on the crappy RPM to install everything. You'll have no trouble
with most BSD. Yes, the file structure is different, but nothing too
haunted, in fact, it's much logical.
With FreeBSD. You get almost as much 3rd party apps likje from SuSE
Linux (SuSE comes with 6 CDs , or a DVD.)
Oh yes, OpenBSD, FreeBSD both have kiss ass hardware detection.
-blowfish.
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From: Justo M. Casablanca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:30:18 GMT
Thank you so much, your instructions have been the most complete I have
found up to this point. May I add that, In addition to the steps you
provided, I had to do the following in order to get my configuration to
work correctly:
* chmod u+s /usr/sbin/kppp (remember that /usr/bin/kppp is a link to
this file).
Before I executed this command, kppp would say that it was unable to
open a log file (it wouldn't say which log file), and would then
terminate the connection and stop pppd.
Thx !!!
Justo M. Casablanca
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't restart Win98 box in DOS after Linux install
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:30:16 GMT
Actually Installing Windows is quite simple and fairly quick. You can
install it right over itself. All icons and software settings should
remain intact. You would then need to boot to linux with a startup disk
and then use linuxconf or commands to reinstall lilo so you can boot to
both operating systems.
ldog wrote:
>
>
> We have a Win98 machine and installed Redhat a few days ago. Since the
> install we can't restart our computer in DOS. When you try (via 'Start'
-
> 'Shut Down' - 'Restart computer in DOS'), the computer shuts down, but
when
> it comes back up, it goes nowhere. A blue box appears near the middle of
> the screen, and you can carraige return, but it never actually loads DOS
(or
> anything for that matter).
>
> Thought this might have something to do with LILO, so we uninstalled
today
> to do a partitionless install (hence no LILO - boot from floppy). We
> deleted the Linux partitions and did a fdisk/mbr to clear the LILO info
from
> the Master Boot Record. Computer seems to be back to normal (haven't
> reinstalled partitionless yet), except we still can't restart in DOS. Of
> course our Win98 startup disk works, but we shouldn't need that to get
into
> DOS.
>
> Any suggestions (other that reinstalling Windows)?
>
>
>
>
> webCOMBO - America's Free Internet Access Provider
> http://www.webcombo.net
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From: Siw Sang Yau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: How to install soundcard?
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:28:42 +0000
Anybody know how to install a soundcard to the Linux? I got a Aztech PCI
288 Q3D II soundcard and using RedHat 6.2.
sylvain
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From: "Al Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to install soundcard?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:43:44 -0700
> Anybody know how to install a soundcard to the Linux? I got a Aztech PCI
> 288 Q3D II soundcard and using RedHat 6.2.
sndconfig
I think. It might be soundcfg, or sndcfg, or soundconfig. Something like
that.
Al Morgan [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:47:12 -0700
"Martin Skj�ldebrand" wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Jerome Mrozak wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm choosing between distros and would like to NOT be stuck with a
> > > distro that can't find the "latest and greatest" software, such as Gnome
> > > updates, KDE updates, editors.
> > >
> > > Being in the USA, I hear the most about RH and Mandrake. But when all
> > > is counted, what % of RPMs will work on both RH and SuSE, what % for RH
> > > and not SuSE, and what % for SuSE and not RH?
> > >
> >
> > Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
> > Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
> > won't
> > work on SuSE or RH.
>
> That's interesting considering that Mandrake is based on RH. And is
> claiming "compatibility".
>
Even Red Hat 's RPMs will/can/ breaks installations on Red Hat's system!
Okay. For example: let's take glibc for example here. Let's say app X
needs glibc version 2.0; okay. Red Hat, Mandrake, SuSE all have glibc2.0
installed. but Red Hat might named it glibc-rh20, and Mandrake might
just name it glibc, and SuSE might called it glibc-2.0. So, your
computer will get very confused and spill out all kinds of error
message.
It depends a lot on the file structures and version on the machine that
created that rpm package.
Or the same app has been configured to run on a different version of the
lib file.
If you compile for source. You skip the whole dependency problem most of
the time. And if it fails, the error message will tells you
exactlywhat's needed.
And with the *BSD's way of doing things, missing dependency files will
be fetched either from your hard drive, CD, or on a FTP/HTTP server!
And if you compile from source. You can set all the path, directory,
names, permissions etc, by editing the configure and Makefile, to the
*exact* way you want. That's one of the main reason why opensource is
good. Isn't it? That's what flexibility is all about. No?
Actually. Compiling from source is easier than most think. Just make
sure you read the README/INSTALL files *throughly*, and chances are.
You'll make a mistake or two in the beginning, but most of the time, if
you make a mistake, just go over what you've done, and try again. If
everything went well with Make, then, run make install to install it.
And with BSD. If you already has a version installed, it'll ask you what
to do, and tells you your option. Never miss a beat. :-)
-blowfish.
> M.
>
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:10:08 -0700
aflinsch wrote:
>
> blowfish wrote:
>
> >
> > Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
> > Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
> > won't
> > work on SuSE or RH.
> >
>
> Mandrake was originally based on RedHat, and uses the same directory
> configurations. I have never had a problem installing a RH RPM on
> mandrake, while it is the rare SuSE RPM which will work on Mandrake.
>
> I would agree that a Mandrake RPM will not always work on RH however,
> as Mandrake RPM's are built for a i586 architecture rather than for a
> i386.
I have junked the 386 idea for ages. Even my old pentium (with 64 MB EDO
RAM)is now
only reserved for print server duty. My other boxes are 2 SMP (P-2 and
P-3 Coppermine. Full U2WSCSI LVD. The P-3 has RAID. ) A Celeron 400
(junk - for inoften accessed files storage.), and an AMD K-6-2/3DNow.
With a new T-Bird full SCSI on order. Nothing has less than 256MB SRAM.
And I think all these building a router/firewall with Linux is crazy.
Illogical and unenconomical, if you have to spend any money to upgrade
the old clunker. Since hardware router with IP-packets filtering/ports
forewarding/switches can be had for under US$100. these days. Why spend
$50. to get an old clunker, another $40-$50 for two NICs, and another
$50. for more RAM , and another $50 or more for a hub, plus the room the
old clunker will takes, and the additional noise and heat generated from
the old clunker. Plus, after you've spend youn money to upgrade it. It
might die on you in a very short time due to old age! Plus the time to
write all the firewalling rules, while you can spend about $100US, get
the *new* router home, plug everything in, fire up your browser, pointed
it to the router (192.168.1.1) and be done with in 5 minutes, including
ppoE.
-blowfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Voice Recording
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:03:51 GMT
Hi,
How do I record my voice (from the microphone) to wav or, better yet,
mp3? (My system is RH6.2)
Thanks a bunch.
Wroot
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Before you buy.
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Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:12:12 GMT
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<snip>
> And I think all these building a router/firewall with Linux is crazy.
> Illogical and unenconomical, if you have to spend any money to upgrade
> the old clunker. Since hardware router with IP-packets filtering/ports
> forewarding/switches can be had for under US$100. these days. Why spend
<snip>
Where do you get one of these routers for under $100?
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Are there substantially more/less RPMs for RH or SuSE?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:14:17 -0700
aflinsch wrote:
>
> blowfish wrote:
>
> >
> > Basically. Most of the rpm from RH won't work on Mandrake, or SuSE.
> > Or the rpm from SuSE won't work on RH or Mandrake, and Mandrake's rpm
> > won't
> > work on SuSE or RH.
> >
>
> Mandrake was originally based on RedHat, and uses the same directory
> configurations. I have never had a problem installing a RH RPM on
> mandrake, while it is the rare SuSE RPM which will work on Mandrake.
>
> I would agree that a Mandrake RPM will not always work on RH however,
> as Mandrake RPM's are built for a i586 architecture rather than for a
> i386.
If compiled from source yourself. It doesn't matter if it's for i286 or
i100,000,086. It's configured *exactly* to *your* machine.
Now, What's better?
-blowfish.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: undelete directory?
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:18:02 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dave Salovesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > In <8kts9g$spt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined:
>
> > (snip advert for Win98 software)
>
> > Grrrr....
>
> Talk about Clueless!
> It's not as if Windross can even SEE an ext2 partition.
"The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in
the wind."-Bob Dylan.
-blowfish :P~
> (without some VERY unreliable and untrustworthy extra software)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: BroadCast 2000 Guide
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:43:39 -0700
Jesse Pavel wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use Linux with BroadCast 2000 and RealProducer
> to create streaming video files. As a neophyte video producer,
> I've not used video editing software before, and as such BC2000
> is a bit arcane for me. The included reference manual is quite
> sparse, and I've not been able to take enough information from
> it. Does anyone know of a guide or FAQ that has been written on
> the program, or is anyone willing (with commission) to write one?
>
> Another question is what program can I use to convert QuickTime
> files encoded with JPEG or YUV compression to .AVI files, so that
> I can encode the AVI files with RealProducer? Currently, I
> must save my video as uncompressed RGB QuickTime files, with grow
> to huge sizes too quickly.
>
> Thank you, and I appreciate any help.
>
> - Jesse
I've been playing around with it since last summer.
You basically do one frame at a time, and sync up with your audio frame
either by frame numbers, or by time spot.
You use Real Producer to convert on the fly (like converting 190bps MP3z
into 92bps RealAudio file for faster networknet downloading time , or
broadcasting out to the network.
Read the RealProducer's manual.
The best way to learn is by trial and error. Nothing gets into your head
better by getting your own hands dirty with it. :-)
You might want to try the commercial version. Might/should have better
manual.
It was originally commissioned to write this app by commercial capitals.
http://www.linuxmediaarts.com/
-blowfish.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: softraid problem with SuSE 6.4 and 2.2.x kernel
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:47:20 -0700
Clemens Ender wrote:
>
> > >
> > > you are using the kernel portion of raid version 0.4 with raidtools
> > > 0.9. It does not fit. I'd suggest patching your kernel to raid
> > > 0.9. You can find the patches somewhere on the redhat server.
> >
> > you can find them here
> > http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-patches/
> >
>
> thnx a lot !
Be careful. Most Red Hat's RPM won't work with SuSE.
Might even break something else for you.
-blowfish.
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: screensaver or similar generating problem
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:02:37 GMT
Dmitri V wrote:
>
> Fernando wrote:
> >
> > Ok,
> >
> > This is the scenario. A Linux RedHat 6.1 running an application
> > started from the inittab as with the command: xinit my_application
> > I am not using a PC keyboard (actually there is no keyboard connected)
> > After some minutes, the screen is switched off and there is no way to
> > recover it (since I have no keyboard to "press any key").
> > I am becoming crazy because I cannot find what is switching off the
> > screen.
> > Any ideas ?
>
> Well, have you tried connecting mouse and moving it a little bit?
>
> HTH
>
> Dmitri
Try "setterm -blank 0"
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From: Cesar Serna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: client denied by
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:57:08 -0700
Hello all,
I have installed linux 6.2 and apache 1.3.1.1 and am up and running on
the net but
my webserver keeps giving me and error "403 Forbidden". I check my
error_log
and it says "client denied by configuration" <-- not exact. Anyone out
there ever
have this problem and if so how can I resolve it.
I would apreciate any and all advice.
Thanks
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From: Volodja Koczki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: locked mail, cannot read it with elm
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:03:52 GMT
I upgraded to slackware 7.1, and now I cannot read the email using elm.
I get the message
Waiting to read mailbox while mail is being received: attempt #0
then trying 6 times, afterwards I have:
Cannot lock folder - giving up. Please try again in a few minutes.
I can use mutt, but I cannot update the mail file, the new messages
remain new even after reading them.
Do you have any idea what I can do to fix it?
Thanks
VK
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From: Robert Heine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with self-built linux (derived from Debian/Woody)
Date: 18 Jul 2000 08:07:33 +0200
Hi,
I got a problem, which I can not understand.
The syslog of my system spits out the following lines
every 5 minutes:
Jul 18 07:48:20 trick xinetd[225]: warning: can't get client address: Invalid argument
Jul 18 07:48:20 trick identd[407]: started
So...
As you maybe have guessed, i'm running xinetd instead of inetd.
Any ideas, what this "identd" is?
Greetings
Baer
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