Linux-Misc Digest #164, Volume #26 Sat, 28 Oct 00 15:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Modem Setup (Steve)
Re: How to gauge Linux stability? (Steve)
Re: Question on saving the desktop (Garry Knight)
Re: xosview Serial port display (Steve)
Re: Modem Setup ("bluster")
root login problem ! (Andy Burns)
Re: root login problem ! (Andy Burns)
Re: How to gauge Linux stability? (Robert Heller)
Re: How to gauge Linux stability? (Robert Heller)
Re: VMusic 2.0 CD Cataloging program released (Cameron Laird)
Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: How to gauge Linux stability? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Modem Setup (Jean-David Beyer)
Lost package information in SuSE YaST ("Paul Evans")
Troyan horse discoverd! (Erwin Hogeweg)
Re: Modem Setup (erich friesen)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem Setup
Date: 28 Oct 2000 18:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:13:27 -0400, Cosmo wrote:
>I have a 3com USR Sportster 56k pnp ISA internal modem I have been trying to
>get working under Redhat 6.0. Can anyone give me some direction on how to
>accomplish this? I have been through all the HOWTO's without any success.
>Any help would be appreciated.
When you say it's not working what exactly are you doing and what messages
are you getting?
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Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: How to gauge Linux stability?
Date: 28 Oct 2000 18:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:33:14 GMT, Arctic Storm wrote:
>How to gauge Linux stability?
>Of course we know that Linux can run for weeks without reboot,... but
>exactly what does that mean?
>If I log onto one of the user accounts, and run for a week, then log out
>and log onto another acconut, e.g., root, and run for another week, is
>that considered two consecutive weeks, or is that two sessions of one
>week each?
For me stability means that it doesn't crash or lock up requiring a
reboot. I always have something running on this machine that uses
it's CPU to full capacity. Some graphics rendering that I do can
go into days and weeks, so stability is very important to me, the
last image I rendered took 11 days, and in those 11 days I needed
to use tha machine for all the usual stuff like email, newsgroups,
getting stuff off the net etc, and I'm sure that you can understand
the need for the machine to be stable to do a job like that, you
wouldn't want to have to start over again on day 10 now would you.
Here's a sample from Top's output:
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
599 root 20 19 7456 7360 236 R N 0 96.0 11.6 24908m mprime
11671 root 0 0 26004 16M 4752 S 0 1.5 27.5 23:08 X
321 sjlen 2 0 868 868 668 R 0 1.3 1.3 0:00 top
19733 sjlen 0 0 2216 608 336 R 0 0.9 0.9 0:11 rxvt
I only ever boot when there's been a power failure, gotta get me a UPS.
In some places where I've worked rebooting a machine can take a whole
day which means a whole days down time for the customers, a days worth
of time for one of the network technicians, mainly due to the fact
that they insisted on using NT and the servers were in remote locations
and these machines would lock up so badly thet there was no way of
booting them remotely.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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or http://start.at/zero-pps
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Question on saving the desktop
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:47:15 +0100
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Lamar Thomas wrote:
>I am running RH 6.2, Enlightenment and GNOME. Every time I log onto the
>system with my user account I have to setup my desktop the way I like it.
You might want to check permissions on your ~/gnome-desktop directory. While
you're there, you might care to check the user and group that own it.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: xosview Serial port display
Date: 28 Oct 2000 18:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:01:21 -0500, Robert Jones wrote:
>
>Oops. I almost forgot to mention that the xosview executable is SUID.
>
>-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 87272 Mar 22 1999
>/usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
This just means that root's the superuser, not users, you'll need
to do:
# chmod a+s /usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
This will give all users superuser on that file.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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or http://start.at/zero-pps
5:43pm up 17 days, 19:03, 3 users, load average: 1.45, 1.24, 1.14
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem Setup
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:27:19 -0400
Cosmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 3com USR Sportster 56k pnp ISA internal modem I have been trying
to
> get working under Redhat 6.0. Can anyone give me some direction on how to
> accomplish this? I have been through all the HOWTO's without any success.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What serial port is the modem set for?
In linux /dev/ttyS00 == DOS COM1, /dev/ttyS01 == DOS COM2, etc...
To make a quick check of the serial ports that were registered with
the linux kernel at boot time (as root) type:
[root@zephyr]# grep tty /var/log/dmesg
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
[root@zephyr]#
If the modem's port is not listed in the output there may be a
hardware conflict, e.g. IO port or IRQ in use by another device.
Bluster
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From: Andy Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root login problem !
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:27:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got an installation of RH6.01 (running under VMWARE but I'm fairly
sure that's inconsequential) that's been running fine for a while but now
won't let root log in either on the console or through a telnet session
the login proceeds, reports the last login time and login source, runs the
login scripts and then drops the session :-(
I have got another minimal linux installation which can mount the same
partitions the broken installation uses, so I can modify the /etc/profile
and ~/.bash_profile scripts, I've made sure all relevant partitions are
mounted, checked that the root user has a valid working directory, free
space etc
can anyone point me to a summary of all the other scripts that get run
when root logs in (in case there's something in there forcing a logout)
or suggest any way to get around this problem ?
no data is at stake as I can access it all from the minimal installation
mounting the partitions, but grateful any help that'll stop me having to
do a full reinstall/rebuild/reconfigure of
apache/postgres/php/phppgadmin/phorum :-(
--
Andy Burns
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From: Andy Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root login problem !
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:34:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy Burns wrote:
>I've got an installation of RH6.01 (running under VMWARE but I'm fairly
>sure that's inconsequential)
sorry I meant to add that the reason I think the setup itself is generally
OK is that the daemons running on the machine are fine, so I can use
apache/postgres etc remotely on the machine, but haven't got ftp/nfs or
many other things running ...
--
Andy Burns
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to gauge Linux stability?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:36:15 -0000
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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AS> You answered my question.
AS> I thought that logging-off and logging-in was somewhat like
AS> quasi-rebooting.
AS>
AS> By the way, I have gotten error messages that puts a yellow bomb in the
AS> user acconut folder. If that happens, should I reboot, to be on the
AS> safe side,...
AS>
AS> ---------------------
AS>
AS>
AS> John Hasler wrote:
AS> >
AS> > Arctic Storm writes:
AS> > > How to gauge Linux stability? Of course we know that Linux can run for
AS> > > weeks without reboot,...
AS> >
AS> > Make that years.
AS> >
AS> > > ...but exactly what does that mean?
AS> >
AS> > Exactly what it says.
AS> >
AS> > > If I log onto one of the user accounts, and run for a week, then log out
AS> > > and log onto another acconut, e.g., root, and run for another week, is
AS> > > that considered two consecutive weeks, or is that two sessions of one
AS> > > week each?
AS> >
AS> > Linux is running whether you are logged in or not. Most servers have no
AS> > one logged in most of the time.
AS> > --
AS> > John Hasler
AS> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
AS> > Dancing Horse Hill
AS> > Elmwood, WI
AS>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to gauge Linux stability?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:36:15 -0000
Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:59:42 GMT, wrote :
AS> You answered my question.
AS> I thought that logging-off and logging-in was somewhat like
AS> quasi-rebooting.
Not even close.
AS>
AS> By the way, I have gotten error messages that puts a yellow bomb in the
AS> user acconut folder. If that happens, should I reboot, to be on the
AS> safe side,...
No. This is just a core dump. Some program you ran crash (program, not
system). This mostly happens when you ask a program to do something it
was not meant to do and did not have any way of dealing with the bad
activity. Generally *well behaved* programs will spit out a message and
exit cleanly, but some programs when faced with something totally out of
the blue will crash. The program dumps a core file and the O/S (linux)
reclaims the process's resources.
It is generally safe to just delete the core file.
AS>
AS> ---------------------
AS>
AS>
AS> John Hasler wrote:
AS> >
AS> > Arctic Storm writes:
AS> > > How to gauge Linux stability? Of course we know that Linux can run for
AS> > > weeks without reboot,...
AS> >
AS> > Make that years.
AS> >
AS> > > ...but exactly what does that mean?
AS> >
AS> > Exactly what it says.
AS> >
AS> > > If I log onto one of the user accounts, and run for a week, then log out
AS> > > and log onto another acconut, e.g., root, and run for another week, is
AS> > > that considered two consecutive weeks, or is that two sessions of one
AS> > > week each?
AS> >
AS> > Linux is running whether you are logged in or not. Most servers have no
AS> > one logged in most of the time.
AS> > --
AS> > John Hasler
AS> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
AS> > Dancing Horse Hill
AS> > Elmwood, WI
AS>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: VMusic 2.0 CD Cataloging program released
Date: 28 Oct 2000 12:44:57 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.
.
.
>of your CD music collection easy. The program was originally
>written in TCL/TK. This release is entirely rewritten in
>Python using the Tkinter toolkit -- it's much faster and
>much more easy to maintain.
.
.
.
I'd love to hear technical details about Tcl/Tk vs. Tkinter
that resulted in such dramatic differences. I often work
with Tk and its relatives, and I'm very interested to learn
more about how to get the most from them.
--
Cameron Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Business: http://www.Phaseit.net
Personal: http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/home.html
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:57:19 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : It is supposed to be possible, and it always has been for me, except I
> : cannot upgrade glibc-2.1.1-7.6 to glibc-2.1.3-21. When I do that,
> : everything works except IBM's DB2 V6.1 UDB which just hangs. It took me a
> : week to figure out what was wrong. I just moved back to glibc-2.1.1-7.6 to
>
> The name probably gives it away. Old berkely dbm format is being moved
> out of glibc itself. You probably need to redirect the utility to cease
> looking in libdb.so.1.85 which was the old external support lib and tell
> it to look in libdb2 (or whatever it is).
>
> Peter
I very much doubt that IBM uses the berkely dbm format for anything. They did
this all themselves and it runs on various flavors of Unix, Linux, Windows, and
GOK what else.
Here are the libraries used by two typical programs:
valinux:root[/usr/IBMdb2/V6.1]# ldd /home/db2inst1/sqllib/adm/db2start
/lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40015000)
libdb2e.so.1 => /usr/IBMdb2/V6.1/lib/libdb2e.so.1 (0x40017000)
libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x41992000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x419d3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x419f0000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x41ae2000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x41b10000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x41b14000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
valinux:root[/home/db2inst1/sqllib/adm]# ldd db2sysc
/lib/libNoVersion.so.1 => /lib/libNoVersion.so.1 (0x40015000)
libdb2e.so.1 => /usr/IBMdb2/V6.1/lib/libdb2e.so.1 (0x40017000)
libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x41992000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x419d3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x419f0000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x41ae2000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x41b10000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x41b14000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4023012 Aug 30 1999 libc-2.1.1.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Oct 6 18:03 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.1.1.so
Node: no reference to libdb.so.1.85 at all.
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 1:45pm up 4 days, 1:04, 2 users, load average: 2.46, 2.29, 2.20
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to gauge Linux stability?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:07:22 -0400
Steve wrote (in part):
> I only ever boot when there's been a power failure, gotta get me a UPS.
That works only if the power comes back on (for a reasonably long time)
after it fails. I have APC Smart-UPS units on my machine, but the last power
failure lasted about 36 minutes, and one machine does a controlled shutdown
after 5 minutes and this one does a controlled shutdown after 25 minutes. So
they were both down and rebooted after the power came back up. But I gotta
count that as a reboot, though not the fault of the OS.
But do get that UPS: anything is better than fixing a file system by hand,
or taking a couple of hours to restore it from the backup tapes. And if you
do not have the backup tapes, ... .
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 2:00pm up 4 days, 1:19, 3 users, load average: 2.07, 2.14, 2.16
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Setup
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 14:21:05 -0400
Cosmo wrote:
> I have a 3com USR Sportster 56k pnp ISA internal modem I have been trying to
> get working under Redhat 6.0. Can anyone give me some direction on how to
> accomplish this? I have been through all the HOWTO's without any success.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(I took the liberty of removing most of the newsgroups from the list; I do not
wish to spam the entire UseNet.)
If you are running Redhat 6.0, you might consider running the control-panel (as
root).
Get an x-term and type in control-panel. It will give you a pop-up control
panel of buttons.
Select the telephone one and tell it which serial port your modem is on. Mine
is on /dev/ttyS1. Telling it this will make a link in /dev as shown below:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Oct 1 14:01 /dev/modem -> ttyS1
This will be important. Then select the networking button. You will get a
window full of stuff to configure. You will need to set up things such as
Names, Hosts, Interfaces, and Routing. (You will probably need to make no
entries in Routing.)
I have the following in Names: Hostname, Domain, and Nameservers. I run named
on my machine, so I have 127.0.0.1 in the Nameservers field. (I suggest you not
change the Hostname or Domain name with this tool or your window manager will
get confused.) You might really wish to read the Red Hat Installation Guide,
Chapter 5. If you do not have that, or even if you do but find it confusing,
you might wish to examine the HOWTO:
http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/index.html
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 2:05pm up 4 days, 1:24, 2 users, load average: 2.08, 2.13, 2.15
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From: "Paul Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,ucam.comp.linux
Subject: Lost package information in SuSE YaST
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:50:20 +0100
I'm running a SuSE Linux 6.3 system. I installed the KPackage program (using
the rpm command) and now YaST has lost my entire list of packages - I go in
to it and it tells me that none of them are installed. I'm not sure what
file it might use to tell it the packages that are _supposed_ to be
installed. If there is such a file where might a backup be found? If no such
backup exists, can it rebuild this list by examining the files already on my
HD?
--
Paul Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternate)
ICQ number: 4135350
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From: Erwin Hogeweg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Troyan horse discoverd!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:45:44 +0200
Hi,
Has anybody here ever heard of [EMAIL PROTECTED]? This bloke has
put a troyan horse on one of our systems last Tuesday.
The virus contains/modifies the following files:
[root@ns /bin]# find / -user 1003
/usr/bin/login
/usr/bin/du
/usr/bin/find
/usr/sbin/in.fingerd
/usr/src/.puta/stachel/t0rntd
/usr/src/.puta/stachel/client
/usr/src/.puta/t0rnsniff
/usr/src/.puta/t0rnparse
/usr/src/.puta/t0rnsauber
/usr/src/.puta/bnc
/usr/src/.puta/xp.conf
/usr/src/.puta/tools
/usr/src/.puta/tools/t0rnhestra
/usr/src/.puta/tools/t0rnscan
/usr/src/.puta/tools/t0rnmf
/var/log/wzap
/bin/ls
/bin/netstat
/bin/ps
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/xlogin
[root@ns /bin]#
The .puta directory is placed there by the intruder. It is well hidden
because it doesn't show up with an 'ls -al'. It does though with an 'ls
.<tab><tab>'.
Apart from disabeling login (and probably sniping the passwords) I
haven't discovered any real damage yet.
Is this creature known?
CU Erwin
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From: erich friesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Modem Setup
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:58:48 -0500
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Cosmo:
Certainly the place to start would be to running isapnp tools,
enter when logged in as root: pnpdump -c > /etc/isapnp.conf
Then look at ISA pnp.conf file. Reboot and your card should be
recognized by the your system. Try opening kppp and using the "Query
modem" and you should get the modem strings displayed.
Next step, if you can't get your modem to work would be to post the
pnp.conf file in the massage to this news group.
I am using an internal Diamond SupraExpress 56i Sp PC modem, and I did
end up having to change the modem to use fixed com setting using jumper
switches on the modem. Also, there is a PC diagnostics program called
windows, you can go to the control panel and find out what resources are
being used by your different cards, that can help with getting linux
set-up
Erich
Cosmo wrote:
>
> I have a 3com USR Sportster 56k pnp ISA internal modem I have been trying to
> get working under Redhat 6.0. Can anyone give me some direction on how to
> accomplish this? I have been through all the HOWTO's without any success.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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