Linux-Misc Digest #188, Volume #24 Mon, 17 Apr 00 16:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: how do I get pop3 working? ("Armand Welsh")
linux & NOT knfs (not kernel nfs) (Alexander Sirotkin)
Re: change password (Dave Brown)
Re: How do I set the login shell? (Bastian)
Re: How do I set the login shell? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: X Server Can't startx (Dave Brown)
Re: how do I get pop3 working? (Gareth Jones)
Re: how to format a hard drive with Linux red hat 6.1 installed on it ("David ..")
Re: Q:Backupsoftware "Networker" avaiable for Linux? ("David ..")
Re: ati xpert128 video card problem ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: newbie question (adam)
Re: How do I set the login shell? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: newbie question ("Richard Gaywood")
Re: change password (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Q:Backupsoftware "Networker" avaiable for Linux? (Richard Kaszeta)
Re: Creating a umsdos partition ("Zhorntix")
Re: Can't tar (Pisces)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Bryan Woody")
Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience (asage)
Gateway ("Viper")
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From: "Armand Welsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: how do I get pop3 working?
Date: 17 Apr 2000 14:13:16 EDT
send mail does just as the mail implies.. It sends mail only... (ie: from
server to server) sendmail does not deliver mail to a client. pop, pop3
handle mail delivery to the client. if you can't receive mail from your
mail server, the you have a configuration issue with your pop3 daemon.
that's it. The pop3 daemon must be setup correctly, and most installs, this
means reading the man pages on how to load it. Some pop3 daemon's are just
that, daemons, and require that inetd.conf have the pop3 protocol commented
out. Others are agents, not daemons, and require that some application
start them, and thus it means that you must uncomment the pop3 entry in
inetd.conf so that the tcp wrapper can start the pop3 agent. I use
gnu-pop3d which is a daemon, and runs without inetd.conf file entries for
the pop3 protocol, so I commented out the pop3 line.
If your pop3 program on you linux box requires inetd.conf, then you need to
make sure you have hosts.allow, and hosts.deny setup to permit pop3 protocol
access from the hosts you want to permit access to. For many machines, the
default is for these files to be empty, thus allowing access from anyhosts.
"Kirk R. Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hmmm... not sure what you mean "retrive mail" I can use pine to read and
send
> mail, but I can't use a pop client to retrieve mail. Could this be a
sendmail
> issue?
>
> Kirk
>
> "James M. Wadkins" wrote:
>
> > I don't have an answer to your problem, but I do have a question. Are
> > you able to retrieve any mail from either of these mail system from
> > another machine on your net?
> >
> > Kirk Wythers wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to set up my office machine as a pop3 server. I have tried
both
> > > the standard poper that ships with redhat 6.2 and qpopper. Both give
me the
> > > same "relaying denied" error message when I try and access the machine
from
> > > home (by the way I can ftp and telnet to the machine just fine). Does
this
> > > message mean anything to anybody? Have I overlooked something simple?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Kirk
> >
> > --
> > James Wadkins
> > General Manager
> > VTAT, Inc.
> > 5429 Valley Wells Way
> > Las Vegas, NV 89113
> > 702-873-0480
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> > http://www.vtat.com
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> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
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Resources
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>
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From: Alexander Sirotkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: linux & NOT knfs (not kernel nfs)
Date: 17 Apr 2000 18:29:11 GMT
Hi.
I need to add nsf client functionality (namely make it recognize
nfs filesystem) to some mission critical linux server (on which
I can't recompile the kernel and reboot). Just adding nfs.o
and lockd.o modules didn't help - they relay on "do_lockdctl"
which is compiled into kernel itself only when nfs module is
selected.
So I recalled that some time ago we used not kernel NFS - any1
knows where I can download it ?
Or is there better solution ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: change password
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:35:11 -0500
In article <8dfh91$2odc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Henk Salomons wrote:
>
>"Andreas Kahari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
>news:8df03d$fjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> echo $2$'\n'$2 | passwd $1
>>
>No, isn't working, the same problem: passwd: Conversation error
>I think passwd in not accepting from stdin !?!
>
>Any other solutions ??
You can tried the xargs command.
echo username | xargs passwd {}
(you may need a -i option on the xargs; re: man xargs)
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Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: How do I set the login shell?
Date: 17 Apr 2000 18:39:33 GMT
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:51:20 -0700, Clay Blankenship wrote:
>Hi,
> I've got SuSE Linux set up on my PC at home and the default login shell is
>bash. I tried to change it to tcsh by 1) changing /etc/passwd, and 2) using
>the user manager (I forget the exact name). Both of these change the
>variable $SHELL to 'tcsh' but they still run bash. What else do I have to
>do?
>
> Thanks
I recommended to change the /etc/passwd file, but some told me that you
ought to use 'csh' instead.
Bastian
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I set the login shell?
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:34:12 GMT
In article <8dfiv7$f50$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Clay Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got SuSE Linux set up on my PC at home and the default login
shell is
> bash. I tried to change it to tcsh by 1) changing /etc/passwd, and 2)
using
> the user manager (I forget the exact name). Both of these change the
> variable $SHELL to 'tcsh' but they still run bash. What else do I
have to
> do?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Clay Blankenship New email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bryan, Texas (soon to be in Monterey, California)
>
>
Use 'chsh' (read the man page).
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: X Server Can't startx
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:41:03 -0500
In article <8dfaus$rk4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Does anyone know anywhere that there may be a web site that describes a
>simple process to track why I can't startx.
>
>There must be somewhere you can go through a step by step process to
>check out every possible configuration to make sure you have all the
>right settings.
>
>Can someone also tell me where I would find the log file of errors that
>are recorded each time I try to startx.
The Xserver messages are sent to "stderr". To record them in a
file "xmessages" to look at:
X -probeonly 2>xmessages
This will give you a clue as to what the Xserver didn't like.
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From: Gareth Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: how do I get pop3 working?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:57:21 +0100
"Kirk Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to set up my office machine as a pop3 server. I have tried both
>the standard poper that ships with redhat 6.2 and qpopper. Both give me the
>same "relaying denied" error message when I try and access the machine from
>home (by the way I can ftp and telnet to the machine just fine). Does this
>message mean anything to anybody? Have I overlooked something simple?
"Relaying denied" sounds like a sendmail issue, which would occur when
you try to send mail to your server, rather than when you try to
retrieve it.
Try this:
telnet to port 110 on your server. Do you get a connection? If you do,
logon - the commands are:
USER username
PASS password
in each case you should receive the reply "OK". If you get this, try:
LIST
This will list the sizes of the waiting mail messages.
If you get this far, then pop3 is up and running on that server, and
you know that the problem is something else.
I think the most likely problem is that your email client is trying to
connect to your server on port 25 (smtp) to send outgoing mail, and
port 110 (pop3) to get mail. The first connection is reporting the
"relaying denied" error, and the client is then stopping.
Gareth
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to format a hard drive with Linux red hat 6.1 installed on it
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:56:37 -0500
Newhomes support wrote:
>
> David .. wrote:
> >
> > Newhomes support wrote:
> > >
> > > I nedd to get the commands to format a hard drive with linux red hat
> 6.1
> > > installed on it, Ive already tried to install win98 over it but it just
> > > hung up my installion
> > >
> > > Please help
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Newhomes.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > > http://www.help.com/
> >
> > Use linux fdisk and delete all linux partitions and save changes.
> >
> > If you can't boot into linux then use the linux installation boot disk
> > and delete all the linux partitions when you get to the partitioning
> > section of the install. Choose the BACK button and save the changes when
> > asked. Reboot and install that other OS.
> >
> > --
> >
> Thanks Only one problem We have no Linux Disk at all.. is there a general
> command that I can type from prompt.. to do this..?
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Only if you can boot into linux then you could use linux fdisk to delete
the partitions with fdisk /dev/hda
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q:Backupsoftware "Networker" avaiable for Linux?
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:58:21 -0500
"Florian S�lch" wrote:
>
> Hi Linux-Fans
>
> we use in our environment the Backupsoftware "Networker" for backups of
> different systems (HP-UX,Solaris, Windows NT,ect.).
> Menwhile we use more and more Linux systems.
>
> Is there any Networker software available for LINUX?
>
> slf
If you are looking for a network backup utility and have an scsi tape
drive you might look here. www.arkeia.com
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ati xpert128 video card problem
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:01:04 -0700
I think the Mach 64 servers should work.
Matt O.
"Parminder Lehal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I bought an ATI expert128 video card for my computer. I am
> unable to run X on this card. Are there any xservers
> avalable for this card?
>
> Please,.... help...............
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parminder Lehal
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From: adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:14:44 GMT
HOW do you turn off PnP in windows' BIOS??
thanks alot...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know when I had problems with my NIC it was because my BIOS was set
> for PnP, ergo it did not initialize anything. When I turned off the
PnP
> OS option of my BIOS, windows still worked (it simply used the devices
> as initialized by the BIOS), and the NIC was properly initialized by
> BIOS for Linux.
>
> Arun Keswani wrote:
> >
> > Just to update everyone on what is going on. I tried most everything
that
> > everyone
> > suggested. I started out by going into linuxconf. I set up the eth0
adapter
> > using the dhcp option and specified tulip as the module. This added
a line
> > to the conf.modules file in /etc automatically. I then tried
ifconfig, but
> > nothing
> > came up. When I am in the control-panel the eth0 shows up but it is
> > inactive.
> > When
> > I try to activate it , it just tried to obtain an ip address for a
while,
> > during
> > which
> > time if you type "ifconfig" the card shows up. But then it gives up
> > "Operation
> > failed"
> > and the card is no longer seen if you type ifconfig.
> >
> > Now I am not too sure what is going on. I tried to compile the
driver that I
> >
> > got with the card, but I suspect that it was designed for an earlier
kernel.
> >
> > At any rate it fails giving me various errors about arguments not
being the
> > correct number. I had a look at the code, but could not decipher
anything.
> > Something to do with pointers. So that was a no go.
> >
> > I am willing to take suggestions here. Do you folks think that the
card is
> > being
> >
> > recognized or that the driver is the right one, after all the card
does show
> >
> > up in the control panel ? Or is it a problem with the DHCP.
Incidentally,
> > as you may have gathered from the previous postings, this is a
strange case,
> >
> > because the tech who set up the service, used DHCP in windows , but
> > when I contacted @Home , they gave me an IP, gateway add, dns
numbers
> > etc. So I am not completely sure if I should DHCP or static. I have
tried
> > the
> > static settings to no avail too. Incidentally the DHCP works under
windows.
> >
> > So I am wondering should I throw the noname card out the window and
buy
> > something more conventional ? Your ideas, suggestions would be
greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > A.
>
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I set the login shell?
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:14:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian) wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:51:20 -0700, Clay Blankenship wrote:
> >Hi,
> > I've got SuSE Linux set up on my PC at home and the default login
shell is
> >bash. I tried to change it to tcsh by 1) changing /etc/passwd, and
2) using
> >the user manager (I forget the exact name). Both of these change the
> >variable $SHELL to 'tcsh' but they still run bash. What else do I
have to
> >do?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> I recommended to change the /etc/passwd file, but some told me that
you
> ought to use 'csh' instead.
>
> Bastian
>
>
s/csh/chsh/
You mean 'chsh' as in "change shell".
By the way, I wonder how the OP knows he's running 'bash'? If '$SHELL'
is 'tcsh', then why would he think he's running 'bash'?
/A
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From: "Richard Gaywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:23:43 -0000
"adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8dfnqm$aod$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HOW do you turn off PnP in windows' BIOS??
>
> thanks alot...
Depends on the motherboard. When the machine is booting, you'll probably get
a message like "Press Del for setup". Press the key required, and you should
get a BIOS setup screen, with a number of menus.
You're likely looking for and option called "PCI and PNP Setup" option. Go
into it, and Set "PnP OS installed" to "No".
See if that help...
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: change password
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:18:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8dfh91$2odc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Henk Salomons wrote:
> >
> >"Andreas Kahari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
> >news:8df03d$fjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> echo $2$'\n'$2 | passwd $1
> >>
> >No, isn't working, the same problem: passwd: Conversation error
> >I think passwd in not accepting from stdin !?!
> >
> >Any other solutions ??
>
> You can tried the xargs command.
>
> echo username | xargs passwd {}
>
> (you may need a -i option on the xargs; re: man xargs)
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
>
Since you simply can't give the new password on the command line, this
approach won't work. Another thing I've been thinking about is to write
the password twice to a file and then do
passwd $uname < thefile
But I haven't got a Linux box here right now so I can't test it. Be sure
to remove the temp file.
And, oh, don't you have to enter the old password as well?
/A
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From: Richard Kaszeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q:Backupsoftware "Networker" avaiable for Linux?
Date: 17 Apr 2000 14:31:36 -0500
"Florian S=F6lch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hi Linux-Fans
>
> we use in our environment the Backupsoftware "Networker" for backups of
> different systems (HP-UX,Solaris, Windows NT,ect.).
> Menwhile we use more and more Linux systems.
>
> Is there any Networker software available for LINUX?
Yes. I've been running Networker on my Linux web server for quite
some time now.
See http://www.legato.com/Products/index.html. They have a Redhat 5.2
client (which works fine under Debian as well if you know how to work
with .rpm's)
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From: "Zhorntix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Creating a umsdos partition
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:30:40 -0600
Winlinux installs without needing a seperate partition.
try www.winlinux.com it's about a 200 meg download
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I know how to do this through linux. But is there a DOS version of
> umssync or some similar tool???
> (I have a friend that wants to try out linux without having to
> repartition her hard drive first)
>
> if not, then how do i generate a --linux-- file???
>
> thanx
> ali
>
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Subject: Re: Can't tar
From: Pisces <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:28:44 -0700
Thanks J Bland I just forgot to use the f option. That's save me
the day.
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From: "Bryan Woody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:37:05 -0400
Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> pwnichols wrote:
> >
> > What a dumb argument. The first mouse type pointing
> > device was developed by Zerox!
>
> Speaking of dumb things, who the hell is Zerox?
>
> Or perhaps you meant Xerox?
>X-Windows? What's that? Do you have a URL for this program?
>I've never heard of X-Windows. I've heard of the X Windowing
>System, but never X-Windows.
You are the most anal person I have ever seen. Perhaps you should
concern yourself less with what people say and pay more attention
to what they mean. After all in these instances it was very clear
EXACTLY what they were refering to. Do you feel better about
yourself making others feel foolish?
>
> Kevin.
>
> --
>
> Java Programmer, Matrix fanatic
> "There is no spoon."
> - Neo
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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux newsgroup -bad experience
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:45:06 -0400
philosophical ponderings... would any newsgroup ever have as a warning: "Do
not use this newsgroup until you have read all the documentation
available!!!" Doubt 'er <vbg>
I've been involved in teaching folks how to use Windoze. Alot ot people want
to know how to use some great big hulking graphics package, for example,
without having learned how to do basic stuff like resize or close a window.
Most of the questions in here don't seem to be of that variety. And it
certainly seems as though alot of folks who have decided to investigate Linux
as an alternative or main OS have the requisite adventurous spirit. Linux, as
opposed to MSWindows, appears to be a true community. It can be disheartening
to be received with what might seem to new users to be a "go home" sign.
Don't come back until you know what you're talking about...
It's a chicken and egg thing alot of the time. The man pages are often quite
obscure. So one goes to the Documentation pages, of which there are
hundreds. One may want to do some very simple thing (like get something
actually working!!), and is faced with a herculean task of finding out just
which doc might be the one that will help.
There are alot of very fine folk in these discussion groups and I thank you
from the bottom of my heart for giving me and others what help you can.
Pjtg0707 wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2000 17:19:14 GMT, Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Yup; reading this junk certainly counts as a bad experience.
> >
> >On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:28:30 +0400, Art Boulatov said:
> >>c3Bpa2UxQGZyZWVuZXQuY28udWsgd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gSW4gY29tcC5vcy5saW51eC5taXNj
> >>IEFydCBCb3VsYXRvdiA8YWJvdWxhdG9Ac29yb3Mua3N1LnJ1PiB3cm90ZToNCj4gPiBUaGUg
> ------------------snipped----------------
>
> You mean you are not using slrn with metamail turned on? Shame on you! :-)
>
> >
> >
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From: "Viper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gateway
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:08:38 GMT
I am trying to set up a computer at home to split my internet connection. At
home i have a Network with 4 computer 2 desktops and 2 laptops in a few
weeks i will be adding another desktop. I use Road Runner for my internet
connection and i have 2 ip addresses one is a static and the other is a
dynamic. That static one is used for work so i can not use it for the
gatway. So what i need help with is makeing a computer be a gatway with a
dynamic ip. Right now it is running windows 2000 advanced server but if
someone can help me figure out how to set it up as a gatway i will more then
gladely change it to linux.
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