Linux-Misc Digest #328, Volume #24               Sun, 30 Apr 00 21:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Kill command ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Linux ps (Robert Heller)
  Re: Linux Samba Problem... (Sky Cree)
  Re: Difference between set and export?
  Re: es1371? ("David ..")
  Re: es1371? (Alex Kaufman)
  Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon (Yanglong Zhu)
  Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ? (Andre Beck)
  how to define a system call? (Steven)
  true type fonts in linux (Gary)
  Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon (Todd Knarr)
  Re: Mp3 Player for Car (Adrian Noland)
  Re: Difference between set and export? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  How to set up an ftp server? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How do I shutdown my PC? (Tandem Guy)
  Re: how to define a system call? (Ben Walker)
  Re: How do I shutdown my PC? ("Nathan Woodhull")
  rebooting wipes loopback interface (lo) (Duane Evenson)
  Running SCO version of Progress DB under linux (Uri Chamish)
  Re: true type fonts in linux (Steffen Kluge)
  Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon (Steffen Kluge)
  Re: Mp3 Player for Car (Tim Hockin)
  cannot remove `/home/jimmy/.gnome//gmc-fHdvBX (Jimmy Navarro)
  Re: Backing up GNOME configuration files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Passing data to an running application (Penpal International)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,linux,ucla.classes.cs.cs111
Subject: Re: Kill command
Date: 30 Apr 2000 22:20:47 GMT

Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,

: Under Redhat 6.0 GNOME, I opened up several terminals.  On one terminal
: I typed "ps" to view all the running processes (I switched to su).  Then
: I tried to kill one of the command:

: /sbin/mingetty tty6

: but when I "ps" again, this command shows up under a different pid. 

Sure. It's respawned from init. It's the "login prompt" on an unused
console.

: What command is this?  This doesn't seem like a command when I try to

man getty.

: When I type "ps" in a terminal not in su mode, a different list of
: processes are shown; I don't see commands such as the one above, why is
: this?

man ps.

: Also, do I need to be in supervisor mode to kill another shell process?

No. You can always kill processes that belong to you.

Peter

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux ps
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:31:13 GMT

  Galen Menzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:37:17 -0500, wrote :

GM> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
GM> 
GM> > Man ps? The "w" option?
GM> 
GM> Great!  Another one of those wacky linux "features".  Thanks, Peter.

No wackier than DEC Unix, Ultrix, SunOS, *BSD.  

GM> 
GM> galen
GM>             






                                
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From: Sky Cree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux Samba Problem...
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:37:06 -0700

>

did you read ENCRYPTION.txt?
I have had the same problems with setting up my samba server.
Did you create the smbpasswd file?  It explains how in ENCRYPTION.txt.
You have to decide if you want to use encrypted passwords or plain text.
Provided with the samba source are some registry settings for plain text
that can be installed.
the login and password that you are using through your win98 box must
be in the smbpasswd file.
Try the samba faq, somewhere in there it explains what the IPC$ is.

>
>
> -----------------Problems--------------------
> 1. What is mean by "IPC$" ?
> 2. In Windows 98, I can see the linux server in network neighborhood,
> but when I click on it, it prompts me to enter a password for
> \\Linux\IPC$ to make connection. I never set any password in the Linux
> Samba server, why this happened?
>
> Can anybody know how to solve the problems? Thanks for any helps!
>
> Mark.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Difference between set and export?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:45:07 GMT

In article <8ei3s5$6vp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Karsten Wutzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I've just asked that question in one of the German newsgroups, but all I
>: have received so far was "man bash" Shell Builin Commands, which is like
>: not having answered at all. Since I'm quite new to Linux and managed to
> 
> That's a perfectly good answer, so what's your problem with it? If you aren't
> specific about the reading problem you have here, you can't expect us to help you
> with it. Which word do you not understand? "local"? "global"? "option"?
> 
> Set and export aren't even vaguely comparable. You are asking for the
> difference between apples and oranges.
> 

It may have been a perfectly good answer, but neither it - or yours -
was very helpfull. The man page explains what they are, but not how
they're related. And yes, depending on the usage, the are most
definately comparable. Thus:

The set command set a local shell variable. It is local to the shell - that is, it 
cannot be seen by any subsequent shells.

The export command makes a shell variable global - it will keep it's value across 
shell invocations. 

As an example:

        set x=y
        bash "stuff" #stuff can't see x

        set x=y
        export x
        bash "stuff" # stuff can see x

Additionally, the export command can be used to set a variable at the
same time; the command

        export x=y

is the same as

        set x=y
        export x

which I suspect is the point Karsten was trying to clarify.

Hopefully, this will be a somewhat more usefull answer.


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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: es1371?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:48:22 -0500

Janet wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Soundblaster card which cat /proc/pci says has an es1371
> chipset.  I am able to load the es1371 kernel module fine, but no sound
> comes out.  When I run xmms, it looks like it's playing about 50 times as
> fast as it should be, but there's still no sound.  I can't get sound from
> the CD player either, which is sort of weird.  Both the soundcard and the
> cd player work fine under windows though.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Janet

Which Soundblaster card is it?? 
All SB cards don't use the same module.

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From: Alex Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: es1371?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:04:43 -0400

Janet wrote:
> 
> I have a Soundblaster card which cat /proc/pci says has an es1371
> chipset.  I am able to load the es1371 kernel module fine, but no sound
> comes out.  When I run xmms, it looks like it's playing about 50 times as
> fast as it should be, but there's still no sound.  I can't get sound from
> the CD player either, which is sort of weird.  Both the soundcard and the
> cd player work fine under windows though.  Any ideas?

In XMMS press ctrl+P (preferences) and make sure the output plugin is OSS
(looks like you have DiskWriter selected now)

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From: Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:11:36 -0700

Hi all,

I wake up to a horrific reality that some computer manufacturers may be
trying to suppress and uproot Linux and all other free Operating
Systems. How? They make computers that do not read nor write those free
OS bootdisks in drive A. It is a very bad trick upon us free OS users.
We must wake up and get together to fight this war.

I bought a Compaq Presario 5834 two weeks ago. I bought this computer
with Linux in mind. But after days of trying and calling support service
reps, I'm left stranded with a computer not at all of any use to me. At
this moment, I don't know how widespread this phenomenon is. But I urge
everybody who loves these free OS and free softeware in general do a bit
investigation to monitor this computer industry's new move.

I suspect that this kind of restriction of Linux and other free OSes are
implemented through BIOS and/or Hardware, therefore it could defeat the
Free Software Movement if we don't get together to fight it. Or are we
ready to devise FREE BIOS and FREE OS COMPATIBLE HARDWARE???

This may be an over reaction. But it does pose the threatening
potential.





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From: Andre Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.compression,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ?
Date: 01 May 2000 00:33:10 +0200

Andreas Vierengel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm definetely stuck with gzip, since another compression algorithm is not
> supported by the client program and we have no control over this programs :-(

How are your servers connected to "the network"? I'm somewhat sure
a Pentium III 500 class CPU could generate deflate compressed data
by a rate that is in the same order of magnitude as is 100Base.
You might consider to replace zlib by a self-hacked equivalent
that has hardcoded paths especially in the LZ77 search section
(while the zlib code already is quite effective using a 3-octet-
hash for sequence matching) and maybe even the occasional assembly
crafted inner loop. At least you should profile zlib to see where
exactly you lose cycles. I'd expect a gain factor of 1.5 to 2 by
such work (as it is cosmetic, not algorithmic). Maybe that is already
enough? If not, you may fire up a Pentium III specific tuner to
get te best out of the cache accesses and pipelines, and finally,
if nothing else helps, you might try whether some operations of
the compressor could benefit from parallelism coded through ISSE,
eventually using quite different algorithms than the original zlib
code does. After all, deflate is a standard for a format, not
really for an implementation (however zlib is the only existing
one I know of, and *is* effective, in the way you can be effective
in portable HLL code).

BTW, are you sure your hardware is well selected so to not lose
cycles that you could better use in deflate for silly waiting
and housekeeping stuff? I.e. do you have fast SCSI disks with
appropriate HA and especially a non-stupid network card (no
RTL8139 crap [to be silent of NE2k and such])? Servers hope-
fully not running X with silly eyecandy? The other software
and the stuff APIing to zlib well engineered so cycles aren't
burned away there, either? You originally included a Perl group
in your crosspost, so one might have an explanation ;->

-- 

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From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,linux,ucla.classes.cs.cs111
Subject: how to define a system call?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:20:31 -0700

In C, when we call a function, how do we know if this function is a
system call or not?

Perhaps whenever the function is defined in /sys/*.h then it is a system
call?

Thanks!

Steven

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From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: true type fonts in linux
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:30:06 GMT

Anyone who can help will be a saviour i have redhat linux version 6.2 and
need to use true type fonts is this possible and if so how 

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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon
Date: 30 Apr 2000 23:32:02 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wake up to a horrific reality that some computer manufacturers may be
> trying to suppress and uproot Linux and all other free Operating
> Systems. How? They make computers that do not read nor write those free
> OS bootdisks in drive A. It is a very bad trick upon us free OS users.

Well, that would require a BIOS that cannot boot from floppies. Or
CD-ROMs either, for that matter. _That_ makes the usual "reformat and
reinstall $OS" process impossible as a side-effect. It also makes
booting from an emergency floppy ( like the ones MS OSes make )
impossible. Any company that does this will acquire a _very_ bad
rep among the non-Linux community very quickly. My guess is that
this won't ever happen. Note that "cannot boot from floppy" is
completely different from "boots from the hard drive first, floppy
only if no bootable hard drive is present". The first is a problem,
the second is the normal way my computer is configured ( to prevent
virus problems from bootable floppies and CD-ROMs ).

And it's trivial to work around, if you know computer hardware. Just
find the model of motherboard in the machine, and go to a BIOS upgrade
vendor and get a new BIOS for it that _does_ include floppy-boot or
CD-ROM-boot support. Flash it in, end of problem. While the computer
makers might remove floppy-boot support, the BIOS makers themselves
won't for very obvious reasons ( think Flash ROM upgrades or initial
installs on blank machines ).

-- 
Collin was right. Never give a virus a missile launcher.
                                -- Erk, Reality Check #8

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From: Adrian Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mp3 Player for Car
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:55:58 GMT

Sisson wrote:

> hi,
>
> can i get my standard laptop infared to accept remote control input? i can play
> games over it...
>
> From Spendabuck
>
> "pentalpha | newtotheinternet.com" wrote:
>
> > Greetings.
> >
> > I am currently undergoing a project to create my own car mp3 player.  I've
> > found similar projects (at sites like http://www.carplayer.com/plans.html),
> > but for experience (and lack of the $20) I have decided to do it myself.  If
> > anyone out there is interested in collaborating or helping, or whatever,
> > contact me.
> >
> > So, far the following tasks need to be accomplished:
> >
> > - the box is basically going to be a head-less PC
> > - linux will act as the OS, which means no swap space, mount filesystem read
> > only and prob. use FAT16 on / for simplicity and lack of privledges.  I also
> > need some way to disable the login....
> > - the actual mp3 player must be command-line driven and will be called from
> > the bash init scripts.  It will always start playing the same playlist file
> > (m3u) randomly.  (the player must include command-line parameters to do
> > this)
> > - the sound card will be either a creative sound blaster (one of the first)
> > or whatever is integrated on this Cyrix 6x86MX motherboard I have laying
> > around.
> > - I'd like to eventually add an LCD screen to the parallel port for ID3
> > output (any ideas???)
> > - there has to be some mechanism to upload more songs.  By using FAT16, I
> > can just yank out the hard disk and pop it in my Win95 machine, where I keep
> > Napster.  Or possibly give the machine a modem and set up a null modem
> > network, but that would make it heavier and more expensive.
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions, hints or help, feel free to send me a
> > message.  When I finish this I plan to release my plans for FREE!  None of
> > this 20 buck crap.  Peace.
> >
> > ---//---
> >
> > : pentalpha
> > : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > : icq uin - 1688728
> > : http://www.newtotheinternet.com

Prolly the penultimate site for Car MP3 Players is: http://cajun.current.nu


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Difference between set and export?
Date: 30 Apr 2000 23:56:54 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <8ei3s5$6vp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:       "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> Karsten Wutzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: It may have been a perfectly good answer, but neither it - or yours -
: was very helpfull. The man page explains what they are, but not how
: they're related. And yes, depending on the usage, the are most
: definately comparable. Thus:

: The set command set a local shell variable. It is local to the shell - that is, it 
:cannot be seen by any subsequent shells.

Unfortunately, this is not true. Try your example below! (variables in
bash are by default local to a shell, unless you have used set to change the
default mode. There is a keyword "local" that you can use to make them
local to the function they are in). Look at the examples I gave.

You may be confusing yourself with csh syntax, where "set" does indeed
make local variables, and "setenv" makes global ones. In bash, "set"
acts on an even more specialized namespace. One that you can't see or
use at all, without using "set" again! (but yes, this namespace is
shell-local).

:       set x=y
:       bash "stuff" #stuff can't see x

uh uh. Or at least not exactly. Try "echo $x".

: Hopefully, this will be a somewhat more usefull answer.

Lets go back to the man page, and do not pass go. A competition
..  I sure don't use set much and I don't know all its options, so
it'll be easy to find something about it that I don't get. It's
very rarely used.



Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to set up an ftp server?
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 02:07:33 +0200

hi all,

Does anybody know a good tutorial on how to set up a ftp server.

Macke

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From: Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I shutdown my PC?
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:08:57 GMT

Just wanted to thank everyone for taking the time to reply.  While I was
sitting at the login prompt I could still hear my hard drive spinning, so I
knew there must be something else to do, but had no idea what it was.
Thanks again.

Tandem Guy

Tandem Guy wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a new user of Linux in general and Redhad 6.0 in particular.  This
> may be a silly question, but what is the safest/best way to turn off my
> PC which is running Redhat 6.0 (and only Redhat 6.0).  I've been exiting
> out of X-Windows or whatever it is called and then logging off with exit
> which puts me back at the login prompt.  Once at the login prompt I kill
> the power to the PC.  Should I be doing something more, because when I
> turn the PC on I often get errors telling me there are problems with my
> filesystem which need to be repaired?  So, should I be doing something
> more when I'm ready to power off my PC?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Tandem Guy


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Walker)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,linux,ucla.classes.cs.cs111
Subject: Re: how to define a system call?
Date: 30 Apr 2000 17:50:52 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steven  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In C, when we call a function, how do we know if this function is a
>system call or not?
>
>Perhaps whenever the function is defined in /sys/*.h then it is a system
>call?

Yes, anything that is listed in a header file that is not user defined may
be a system call, well sort of.  A system call is really just a library
function with the same name as the system call, that places data on the
stack, which is then executed by the actual system call in kernel space.  Any
function listed in a system header (which may or may not be in sys) is a
C library function.  Anything that is not in the standard ANSI C library is
probably a library function which calls the corresponding system call.  It is
possible for a user to redfine a previously declared function, including a
library function, which overrides the previous definition, but this will
usually draw a compiler warning.

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From: "Nathan Woodhull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I shutdown my PC?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:01:31 -0400

You can either use the poweroff command from the prompt or "shutdown -h now"
which does the same thing

Nathan Woodhull

"Tandem Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I'm a new user of Linux in general and Redhad 6.0 in particular.  This
> may be a silly question, but what is the safest/best way to turn off my
> PC which is running Redhat 6.0 (and only Redhat 6.0).  I've been exiting
> out of X-Windows or whatever it is called and then logging off with exit
> which puts me back at the login prompt.  Once at the login prompt I kill
> the power to the PC.  Should I be doing something more, because when I
> turn the PC on I often get errors telling me there are problems with my
> filesystem which need to be repaired?  So, should I be doing something
> more when I'm ready to power off my PC?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Tandem Guy
>



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From: Duane Evenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rebooting wipes loopback interface (lo)
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:01:43 -0600

I didn't have a loopback interface (lo).
netstat -rn
shows no interfaces.
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up
route add 127.0.0.1 lo
adds the loopback interface. I can then run C-forge server (but only as
root).
netstat -rn shows the interface.
If I reboot, the loopback interface doesn't exist.
What do I check/do??

Thanks, Duane


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From: Uri Chamish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running SCO version of Progress DB under linux
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:25:05 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Folks
I have a licensed version of Progress for the SCO Open Desktop platform
that is sitting on a shelf collecting dust and am interested in
installing and running it under one of the Linux dist's.  I have access
to most of the Linux dist's all installed on different disk images.
Has any one had success in installing and running an SCO version of
Progress (v 8.x) under Linux?
If so, does anyone have install hint, to help me avoid re-inventing a
wheel?
Thanks
Uri
Lake Worth, FL



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: true type fonts in linux
Date: 1 May 2000 00:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone who can help will be a saviour i have redhat linux version 6.2 and
>need to use true type fonts is this possible and if so how 

Search freshmeat for xfstt or xfsft or freetype, and visit their
respective home pages.  If your graphics card is supported you
may also try XFree86 v4.0.

Hope this helps
Steffen.

-- 
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon
Date: 1 May 2000 00:16:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yanglong Zhu  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I bought a Compaq Presario 5834 two weeks ago. I bought this computer
>with Linux in mind. But after days of trying and calling support service
>reps, I'm left stranded with a computer not at all of any use to me. At
>this moment, I don't know how widespread this phenomenon is. But I urge
>everybody who loves these free OS and free softeware in general do a bit
>investigation to monitor this computer industry's new move.

I rather suspect a problem on your side, maybe if you give some
more information we can help you trouble-shooting?

Cheers
Steffen.

-- 
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Mp3 Player for Car
Date: 1 May 2000 00:32:28 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Adrian Noland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Prolly the penultimate site for Car MP3 Players is: http://cajun.current.nu

hrrm:
pe-nul-ti-mate
   adj.
            1. Next to last.


I'm guessing that is not what you meant, and you are just another silly
person who heard it misused once and thought it made you sound smart.
Guess again.

-- 
Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.

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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: cannot remove `/home/jimmy/.gnome//gmc-fHdvBX
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:37:22 -0700

How will I get rid of this error when exiting X Window?  :-(
--
rm: cannot remove `/home/jimmy/.gnome//gmc-fHdvBX': No such file or
directory

GnomeUI-WARNING **: Could not open help topics file NULL



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backing up GNOME configuration files
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:49:42 GMT

In article <8ehdgp$bsj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm about ready to make some major changes to my RedHat 6.1 setup and
> don't want to have to redo my GNOME desktop all over again, from
> scratch, if things go bad. Can someone clue me in on where GNOME saves
> its desktop settings so I can back them up before proceeding? Thanks.
> 
> --
> Upsala '75
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Most settings are in your .gnome directory in your home directory. 
Just save that directory and copy it to your new home directory 
preferably before you start gnome again. Your desktop icons and such
are located in the .gnome-desktop directory in your home diectory. Do the same 
for that also. There is also a .gnome_private directory that you might want to save.
Finnally you want to save the window manager settings which will be in 
the .enlightenment directory if you use enlightenment or some other depending on
which window manager you use.



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From: Penpal International <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Passing data to an running application
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 02:52:35 +0200

I have an idea for an application in my head, but I don't know if it
ever will work.
I want some kind of deamon which can receive data from other application
WITHOUT a socket. I don't know if anyone knows an application which does
this. I sure like to hear it if you know such something.

Thanks,

Frank de Bot


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