Linux-Misc Digest #418, Volume #24 Tue, 9 May 00 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Turtle Beach Montego II does not work (Alex Lam)
Re: Keep a program running after logging out (Tim Hockin)
Printing (sandrews)
Re: Keep a program running after logging out ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO 1024 cyl thing (Rick Hoffman)
CTL ALT +/- No longer works. (Louis Gazave)
Re: Can I use DiskImage to back up linux. (Sam E. Trenholme)
what is a ram disk? (Aditya Rustgi)
Re: Extracting multiple, COMPRESSED, tar files? (mh)
Re: How do I change screen resolution (Chris F.A. Johnson)
Re: CTL ALT +/- No longer works. (Leonard Evens)
Re: Programs for Linux ("Jackie")
Re: Printing (Harold Bower)
Uninstalling Lilo (Eric)
Re: Iomega Zip Detection (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux behaving like Windows ("Calixto Melean")
Re: Uninstalling Lilo (Dances With Crows)
Re: LILO 1024 cyl thing (Alex Lam)
Re: what is a ram disk? (Dances With Crows)
Re: segmentation fault ? (Dave Thompson)
Keyboard probs with RH 6.2 ("Shawn Beckwith")
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From: Alex Lam <"here,there"@everywhere.com>
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Montego II does not work
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 16:34:39 -0700
Jose Oliver wrote:
>
> RH Linux 6.2 does not recognize my Turtle Beach Montego II soundcar is
> there anyway I can correct this problem and make it work... I am new to
> Linux...
>
> --
This sound card is supported by SuSE-Linux.
But you can also get the driver from
http://linux.aureal.com/
Have fun.
Alex Lam.
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keep a program running after logging out
Date: 9 May 2000 23:13:50 GMT
Romain BAILLY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Here's a simple question : how to avoid a program from being killed on
: logging out ? I know there's a command to achieve this, but it just
: can't remember its name.
nohup
--
Tim Hockin
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:22:28 -0400
From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing
Running TurboLinux Workstation 6.02en, I installed my printer (Epson
600), it is remotely connected to a D-Link print server. The printer
connects to the print server just dandy, Butt.....................it
would only print text docs. I installed apsfilter (the latest) fixed up
the printcap, but a postscript file still prints as text, not in
postcript fashion (Yes I got gs installed). The LPRng seems to be
ignoring the print filter. Has anyone came across this?? How can I
tell if LPRng is really running the print filter?
This is round 14 with the printer winning rounds 1 thru 13 and damnit I
am NOT giving up without a fight ;).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Keep a program running after logging out
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:42:11 GMT
Romain BAILLY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi all,
> Here's a simple question : how to avoid a program from being killed on
> logging out ? I know there's a command to achieve this, but it just
> can't remember its name.
nohup (IIRC)
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From: Rick Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cyl thing
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:49:04 -0400
Robert Heller wrote:
> RH> >
> RH> > /dev/hda1 1-2gig - FAT16 Win C: drive (base system + base applications)
> RH> > /dev/hda2 64meg - Ext2 linux root: /
> RH> > /dev/hda3 up to 1/2 way point - FAT32 Win D: drive (put your docs, MP3s, MOVs,
> RH> > AVIs, etc. here)
> RH> > /dev/hda4 <extended -- the second 1/2 of the disk>
> RH> > /dev/hda5 128meg -- swap
> RH> > /dev/hda6 1.5gig -- Ext2 /usr
> RH> > /dev/hda7 64meg -- Ext2 /var
> RH> > /dev/hda8 rest of disk -- Ext2 /home
> RH> >
> RH> > This sort of partitioning should allow all of /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 to
> RH> > be completely below cylinder 1024. The stock lilo will be happy,
> RH> > Windows will be happy. Everything should work just fine.
> RH> >
>
> Under Linux/UNIX things *appear* to always be one file system, whether it is
> one partition or 256 partitions. One can 'mount' physical file system
> (disks / partitions) anywhere that is 'convenient'.
>
> The Linux installer will make a file system tree something like this:
>
> /
> /dev
> /boot
> /bin
> /sbin
> /lib
> /etc
> /mnt
> /tmp
> /var
> /var/log
> /var/spool
> /var/run
> /var/tmp (some systems)
> /var/lock
> /usr
> /usr/bin
> /usr/sbin
> /usr/lib
/usr/local
> /usr/man
> /usr/share
> /usr/tmp
> /home
>
Thank you for your very informative explaination. Using your above example, I know you
said there was more but I thought I would include /usr/local. Isn't that an important
path as well? Now mounting partitions as / or /boot or /usr or /var are obvious. What
if I choose to call them /root or /partitionOne and /partitionTwo, ... etc. How would
the installer negotiate that?
Next, answering the previous question might answer this one but what if I wanted more
grandularity and named my partitions /boot, /, /usr, /usr/local, /var, /var/spool,
/tmp
for example. How would the installer know automatically how to handle that?
>
> On a running Linux (or UNIX) system, *partitions* are not a *visible*
> part of the file system tree, unless one uses the df command. One uses
> the cd command to move from directory to directory *seamlessly* --
> a different *physical* file system (partition/disk) is not selected by
> some special syntax or command, like it is in MS-DOS/MS-Windows. If you
> never use the df command, you are presently with the *illusion* of one
> single file system, even when it is broken up across multiple disks and/or
> partitions.
>
I wrote earlier >> But how do I get the data to the partitions and have a working file
system afterwards?
I had a feeling the installer was going to hypothetically be the one to do all the
work.
But like I worded the question before how do I get the data into the partitions like I
want them. Lets say I have a functional Linux system on a source drive with one big
partition and I break up another disk into many partitions. These partitions are ext2
formatted. How do I get the directories I pick and choose from the source disk to the
destination disk and have a functional OS on the destination disk? In other words I do
the work of the installer from one disk to another and am basically wanting to clone
the
OS but from one partition to many.
Lastly, Robert, how do you recommend partitioning a Linux system and why?
Thanks so much.
hoffy
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From: Louis Gazave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: CTL ALT +/- No longer works.
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:00:48 -0400
Help Anyone.
I use to be able to change the resolution on the fly with the key
combination CTL ALT + or -.
Now I am no longer able to change the resolution. Nothing happens.
Please respond via email as well.
Louis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Can I use DiskImage to back up linux.
Date: 9 May 2000 17:06:15 -0700
>After done installing, I backup disk images using PartitionMagic
>DiskImage to save both partitions.
>Can I also use this process on linux?
OK, my first question is why are you using a commercial, proprietary
program like diskimage instead of a free, open program like 'dd', which
Linux comes with.
'dd' is DiskImage for Linux:
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=some.really.huge.file.disk.image
You can do this right after an install, assuming Linux is on /dev/hda1 and
a really large partition is on /dev/hda2:
mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/linux.install.image
Should things go sour, you can boot from a rescue floppy and perform:
mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
dd if=/mnt/linux.install.image of=/dev/hda1
Now, there is one big caveat with using DiskImage for Linux (aka 'dd').
It doesn't work if you ever change your partition sizes, and can very well
not work if you try to move the image to a different hard disk, or a
differently sized partition. It *may* work if you have a bigger partition
('may' is the operative word here), but no guarantees.
Once you put the image on a bigger partition (lots of caveats), you may be
able to resize the ext2 filesystem:
http://www.lwn.net/980514/a/resizefs.html
You mentioned being a registered Partition Magic 3.0 user.
- Sam
--
Go to http://www.hoohahrecords.com/rap for information on the Bohemian RAP CD
Go to http://samiam.org/cgi-bin/mailme to get my email address
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aditya Rustgi)
Subject: what is a ram disk?
Date: 10 May 2000 00:26:42 GMT
hi there,,
I was just curious reading one of the postings.. can you tell me what a ram
disk is? and how is it different from memory or hard disk.?
thanx
-adi
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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:39:10 +0000
From: mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Extracting multiple, COMPRESSED, tar files?
Allin Cottrell wrote:
>
> mh wrote:
> >
> > Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> > > #!/bin/bash
>
> > > for i in `ls *.tar.gz`; do
>
> simpler:
> for i in *.tar.gz ; do
>
> (for each file satisfying the globbing pattern)
>
> > > tar xvzf $i
>
> unpack that file, OK
>
> > > j=echo $i | sed -e 's/\.tar\.gz//' -
> > > cd $j
>
> oof!
> cd ${i%.tar.gz}
>
> cd to the directory whose name is found by stripping the
> 'tar.gz' off the original filename. And so on.
>
I don't see how that computes. As noted previously, I do very little
programming, mostly basic VBA stuff. There is no way in hell I would
have come up with ${i%.tar.gz} as "stripping off the tar.gz". I mean,
does % mean "strip"? Why is the $ outside the braces, instead of in
front of "i", since that's how "i" is distinguished as a variable?
Believe me, I could figure out at least 3 different GUI interfaces
before I figured out that command sequence. Command line is great, once
you've mastered syntax and memorized several dozen (hundred?) commands,
but until then...Anyway, I appreciate the tutoring. Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris F.A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: How do I change screen resolution
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:13:19 GMT
On 8 May 2000 14:43:32 GMT, Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: CTRL-ALT +/- changes the res in X.
It works in CorelLinux, but not Storm. Is there a different keystroke, or
is it s configuration issue?
--
Chris F.A. Johnson
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Everything in moderation - including moderation
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: CTL ALT +/- No longer works.
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:42:00 -0500
Louis Gazave wrote:
>
> Help Anyone.
>
> I use to be able to change the resolution on the fly with the key
> combination CTL ALT + or -.
> Now I am no longer able to change the resolution. Nothing happens.
>
> Please respond via email as well.
>
> Louis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you reinstalled anything or changed your X configuration.
It sounds as if your system is only set up for one resolution.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Jackie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Programs for Linux
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:14:29 +0800
Wow....so great!!! Now, I have 2 questions:
(1) What assembler is good in the Linux world (in a sense of easy to use,
stable...I guess)?
(2) What database is good for a medium size business firm? My boss may want
to re-develop the whole application software running on Linux.
Thanks for the input,
Jackie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Go to http://www.freshmeat.net and do a search, everything you listed is
there.
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From: Harold Bower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 01:20:38 GMT
sandrews wrote:
>
> Running TurboLinux Workstation 6.02en, I installed my printer (Epson
> 600), it is remotely connected to a D-Link print server. The printer
> connects to the print server just dandy, Butt.....................it
> would only print text docs. I installed apsfilter (the latest) fixed up
> the printcap, but a postscript file still prints as text, not in
> postcript fashion (Yes I got gs installed). The LPRng seems to be
> ignoring the print filter. Has anyone came across this?? How can I
> tell if LPRng is really running the print filter?
>
> This is round 14 with the printer winning rounds 1 thru 13 and damnit I
> am NOT giving up without a fight ;).
Which apsfilter did you use? The latest is 5.4.2 from Andreas Klemm.
It is NOT the same as the apsfilter on TurboLinux site, and installs a
different printcap. I have used it (successfully) on two computers with
TLW 6.0.2 with Epson LQ-1170 printers. 5.4.2 also has an app note with
details on installing it with TurboLinux. You can download it from:
http://www.freebsd.org/~Andreas/apsfilter
I downloaded it to /usr/local/opt/ and gunzipped it there, then cd to
/usr/local/opt/apsfilter and run SETUP. With an Epson 600, you will
probably want to use one of the UNIPRINT drivers since ghostscript 5.50
is the version with TLW 6. Good luck. This was the only solution I
found that worked.
Hal
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uninstalling Lilo
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 01:30:05 GMT
I intalled lilo into the master boot record and want to remove it and put
the original mbr in it's place. How do I do that? I'm ultimately trying
to uninstall rh linux 6.1 all together. Thanks for any help!
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Iomega Zip Detection
Date: 09 May 2000 21:41:59 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 09 May 2000 17:03:14 -0400, mst
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I got a Iomega Zip and i desesperatly try to detect it under Linux (Red
>> Hat, or Mandrake), but linux never find it (i try during the
>> installation). I got a Super Socket 7, the model M577 from PCC, and i
>> try with Parallel Port on ECP, EPP, ECP+EPP...
>
>I understand from your post you're talking about a parallel port zip -
>if not, state it clearly.
>For the PP zip, first your parallel port must be correctly configured;
>then, you must use the correct driver. For the zip100, the module is
>called ppa.o. Try:
...nope. Newer ZIP 100s and all ZIP 250s use the imm module. Also, the
lp module must be available for whatever reason. The correct sequence of
commands goes a little like this:
insmod parport
insmod parport_pc
insmod imm
insmod lp
mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip (assuming, of course, that a ZIP disk is in
the drive!)
If imm doesn't work, rmmod lp, insmod ppa, insmod lp. This procedure can
be automated by entering the correct incantions into /etc/conf.modules.
For further information, look at the ZIP-Drive mini-HOWTO at
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Drive.html HTH, Good luck.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: "Calixto Melean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux behaving like Windows
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:48:26 -0400
thanks. It was a bad fan.
"Sam E. Trenholme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8fa58e$1mn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >So, I am up to the point where I need to compile my modules, after
entering
> >"make modules", it starts compiling for about 3 or 4 minutes and then the
> >machine hangs, no mouse no keyboard, frozen!, I wait for about 30min and
> >nothing happens.
>
> This sounds like a hardware problem. What kind of motherboard and
> processor do you have, have you checked your RAM, etc?
>
> I suspect bad RAM myself.
>
> - Sam
>
> --
> Go to http://www.hoohahrecords.com/rap for information on the Bohemian RAP
CD
> Go to http://samiam.org/cgi-bin/mailme to get my email address
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Uninstalling Lilo
Date: 09 May 2000 21:51:22 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 May 2000 01:30:05 GMT, Eric
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I intalled lilo into the master boot record and want to remove it and put
>the original mbr in it's place. How do I do that? I'm ultimately trying
>to uninstall rh linux 6.1 all together. Thanks for any help!
May I be the first to shout: READ THE FAQ! RTFM! DO A DEJA
SEARCH! This question gets asked several times a week.
0. Find a Lose9x machine
1. Insert floppy disk into Lose9x machine
2. FORMAT A:
3. SYS A:
4. COPY C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\FDISK.EXE A:
5. boot the (former) Linux machine with this DOS disk
6. FDISK /MBR
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: Alex Lam <"here,there"@everywhere.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cyl thing
Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 19:10:35 -0700
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Ok, here's my game plan. Install Win '95. Install Linux using a boot
> ]diskette. After Linux is installed, download the new LILO and install it
> ](somehow). Does that sound good? My prob is a bit different than that at
> ]the start of this thread. I have not installed Linux yet, but I wish to,
> ]but beyond the 1024 limit. Will a boot disk allow me to do that? What is
> ]on the boot disk?
>
> If you have not yet installed Win, then why don't you partition your
> drive so that there is a 5MB partition below the 1024 limit onto which
> you will put
> /boot
> That way you do not have to worry!
>
-snipped-
the newest and latest lilo supports up to 3Tb. No more 1024
cylinder limit.
Alex Lam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: what is a ram disk?
Date: 09 May 2000 21:57:33 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 May 2000 00:26:42 GMT, Aditya Rustgi
<<8faac2$ish$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>hi there,,
>I was just curious reading one of the postings..
>can you tell me what a ram disk is? and how is it different
>from memory or hard disk.?
It's a portion of RAM that's been reserved for use as a filesystem.
Generally, Linux uses them for installation and/or initialization
purposes. 4M or more of RAM is reserved, a compressed filesystem image is
loaded from floppy or CD-ROM, and that filesystem is uncompressed into the
reserved chunk of RAM. Then the Linux kernel sees this chunk of RAM as a
very small, very fast disk. Back when hard disks were much slower than
they are today, DOS utilities like RAMDRIVE.EXE were kind of popular among
some users. Since disk space is cheaper and faster these days, RAM disks
aren't used except in special circumstances today.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: Dave Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: segmentation fault ?
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 01:58:56 GMT
Well, I solved my problem by running strace and seeing where texpire was
dying -- it was getting lost in the directory structures that it creates
to maintain newsgroup data, looking for alt.alt.alt.alt.alt ad nauseum.
So, I cleaned up some of the directories, and now it's working. Clearly
a bug. I sent an email to the leafnode maintainer, when I get a
response I will give him the details.
Dave
Dave Thompson wrote:
>
> What is a segmentation fault ? I'm getting this message trying to run
> texpire, part of leafnode.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave Thompson
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From: "Shawn Beckwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Keyboard probs with RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:07:26 -0500
I recently installed Red Hat 6.2 on a server. When I try to connect to the
server remotely via xdm, certain keys do not behave properly. For instance,
the "2" key located above the "W" key behaves as a backspace character. I
can telnet into the machine from my windows prompt, and everything works
properly. The only thing I can figure is that is has something to do with
the xdm key mappings. I have tried changing xdm keyboard key mappings, but
have had no luck?
Any ideas before I blow the OS away and reload?
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