Linux-Misc Digest #418, Volume #27 Thu, 22 Mar 01 05:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) (Andres Kuusk)
Re: goctave - help building it ("D. Stimits")
NIC problem. ("News")
Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?) ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: hard driving constantly accessing like crazy - how can I find the culprit
("Ozymandias")
Re: Root-Password for kppp???? (E J)
installing new 2.4 kernal (Matt Hill)
Where to put xmodmap call to change pointer bindings (Gnome)? (Tim Van Holder)
Re: I did 'dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/hda' :-((( ("Ozymandias")
Re: I did 'dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/hda' :-((( ("Eric")
Re: how to compare two text file? ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
upgrade RPM v3.x to RPM v4.x (Cyrille Giquello)
Re: /dev/sndstat (Marc D. Williams)
Re: NIC problem. ("Mordak")
IRC Server software for rh 5.2 (niketan sharma)
Re: printing ("Mordak")
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Steve Withers)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Steve Withers)
Re: Red Hat Linux 7 Install problem (two HDs) (Tim Van Holder)
Re: Best E-mail Client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andres Kuusk)
Subject: Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: 22 Mar 2001 06:24:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann) wrote:
> man strings
>
>:)
>
> Usually does it for me...
The line
application/msword; strings -a %s | more; needsterminal
in .mailcap works fine for me with pine.
Andres Kuusk
Tartu Observatory, Estonia
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:36:39 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: goctave - help building it
G Pollack wrote:
>
> I'm attempting to build goctave on my Mandrake 7.2 system. On the first
> try, I learned that I needed an include file, gtksheet.h. This is in the
> package libgtk+extra0-devel-0.99.14-1mdk.i586.rpm, which I installed.
> The next attempt got through the compile stage okay, but upon linking a
> series of "undefined reference" errors appeared, all of which referred to
> function declarations appearing in gtksheet.h. I've copied the call to
> gcc that does the linking, as well as the first few error messages,
> below. All of the *.o files and libraries that appear in the call exist.
>
> Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry Pollack
>
> gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -L/usr/lib -lgtk -lgdk -lgtkextra -lglib -lm -o goct
> ave about.o goctave.o help_call.o macro_bar.o preferences.o wb.o clipboard.o -r
> dynamic -L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -rdynamic -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -
> lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk -lgmodule -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -
> laudiofile -lm -ldb1 -lglib -ldl -rdynamic -lzvt -lutil -lSM -lICE -lgtk -lgdk -
> lgmodule -lglib -ldl -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lncurses
> wb.o: In function `wb':
> /toinstall/goctave/src/wb.c:147: undefined reference to `gtk_sheet_new'
> /toinstall/goctave/src/wb.c:149: undefined reference to `gtk_sheet_get_type'
Somewhere is a library file that contains the actual implementation of
gtk_sheet_new and gtk_sheet_get_type. This needs to be linked against.
If you look at all those lines above such as "-lm", these are
abbreviations for those libs. "-lm" is short for "libm", "-ldl" is short
for "libdl", "-lgtk" is short for "libgtk". Somewhere is a lib, e.g.,
libsomething.so, you would add "-lsomething" to the list for it. You can
view the symbols of most libs via nm, e.g., to see what is in some lib,
cd to its directory, and use: "nm libwhatever.so"; pipe it to grep if
you want to search for gtk_sheet, e.g.: "nm libwhatever.so | grep
gtk_sheet". What would make it easy is if someone knows what lib the
gtk_sheet_new and gtk_sheet_get_type are from.
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NIC problem.
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:43:41 -0800
Hi!
Can anyone help me with the Compaq Netelligent 10/100 TX PCI card (tlan in
Linux's case)?
Actually windows poicks up the irq 10, but when i give some other irq to
linux (10 in this case) all it says is that "Can't open eth0 because IRQ 0
is already in use".
Thankyou.
Farhan.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pdf (was: Best E-mail Client?)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:54:48 -0800
"Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Well, it always depends on who's sending you the stuff: if it's anybody
> who values your opinion, that person should be willing to make the stuff
> available to you. Personally, I refuse to accept any *.doc *.xls or
> whatnot. If the person sending the stuff can not be educated - well,
> tough luck. In these rare cases I can read the stuff with some other
> application, but anybody I'm in regular contact with knows not to send
> me crap like that.
Clients send me stuff in whatever format they're most comfortable with. I
accept it as a matter of courtesy. Some of them can be reducated, some
cannot, at least without having their feathers ruffled. Here in America we
have a saying, "The customer is always right." It may or may not be true,
but it's generally expected that you act as if it is. If you don't, people
will think you're arrogant or insolent, that you lack a service-oriented
attitude, and make a point not to do business with you. So, you don't tell
your customers what to do, even if you're dead right, and they're morons.
It's a matter of respect, and whether it's deserved or not, it's customary.
Matt O.
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From: "Ozymandias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard driving constantly accessing like crazy - how can I find the culprit
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:12:33 +0100
can still be a few things: might be updatedb running (scheduled once a day
on most distro's), but it might also be your swap running. When pages aren't
used for so long, they get swapped out to free up memory. This is done so
new applications load quicker(less swapping to be done, so less overhead)and
since the pages weren't used they probably aren't to be used for a long
time. And sometimes, since there is nothing else to do, the swap space gets
defragmented, just like the memory.
If you want to check (for somethingelse), write a little script that checks
alle the used files (fuser) and writes the results in a sort of log, might
be usefull..
greetz Ozy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:e6du6.159097$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Using redhat 6.2 There is nothing set to run in the middle of the day for
> cron except a qlog thing that runs once an hour for just a couple of
> seconds. There's another ting set for 4 am that updates a mailing list
> message achieve but that is very quick as well. I just here it constantly
> going all hte time and it never used to. I don't know what the problem
is.
>
> "Ozymandias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:99ar33$hn0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > what distro are you using ? and check the crondtabs and logs
> >
> > really easy, greetz Ozy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:_95u6.157176$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Lately i hear my hard drive accessing like crazy even when my computer
> is
> > > doing NOTHING as far as I can tell. No one logged in, pratically all
> > > programs idle, system resources ~98%, etc. How (if there is a way)
can
> I
> > > find out what's constantly accessing my hard drive? Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Root-Password for kppp????
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:02:14 GMT
# man pam # read up on pam
# cd /etc/pam.d
# cp kppp kppp.bak # back up pam for kppp
# vi kppp # edit pam to adjust the security change some 'required' to
'sufficient'
Ulf wrote:
> Since I installed Kppp in its lates version 1.6.24, every user needs the
> root password. Does someone know, how to tell kppp it should dial
> instead of asking for a password.
>
> Thank you....
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From: Matt Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing new 2.4 kernal
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:28:04 GMT
I compiled the new kernal last night and the process proceeded smoothly, no
errors in any of the steps. this left me with a kernal bzImage in
/linux/arch/i386/boot and a file vmlinux in /linux. I tried to update lilo
to both of these, bzImage first as stated in the README file. ran lilo to
update configuration and tried to boot. I was presented with an option to
boot to the new tag of linux-2.4 and when I did, i got booting kernal and
nothing else. No error message or anything. I have tried to compile the new
kernal many different times w/ many different methods and I always get the
same thing. No error message, just a hangup. Any ideas as to what I'm doing
wrong? I have been able to compile the 2.2 kernal from source the exact
same way with no problems.
Matthew Hill
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:38:23 +0100
From: Tim Van Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to put xmodmap call to change pointer bindings (Gnome)?
System: RH7, Gnome (gdm), MouseMan Wheel
In order to get my mouse working properly, I need to rebind my mouse
pointers using "xmodmap -e 'pointer = 1 6 3 2 4 5'".
I already have a .Xmodmap I use to tweak my keyboard (called from my
.gnomerc using 'xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap). Adding 'pointer = ...' to that
file did not help; when I log into X, the pointer bindings are still
set to the default. I get the same result when I add a separate
call to xmodmap to .gnomerc and when I add such a call to the gnome
startup programs. Once I log in, and call xmodmap from a console
window, the rebindings do work.
So where can I put that call and have my pointer buttons rebound
automatically when logging in?
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From: "Ozymandias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I did 'dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/hda' :-(((
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:50:18 +0100
yeah, 'LI' it says because it is only loaded partially, install lilo without
an external text file (worked for me). Lilo boots in different stages, the
first stage prints out LI, then comes the second, but if this stage cannot
be found, it hangs while LI is displayed.. (or something like that for realy
knowledge, ask a guru). allso avoid putting lilo in master boot records but
if linux is the only system on your disk you might, but it is a little more
tricky since more things can go wrong..
greetz Ozy
"Otavio Exel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Otavio Exel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > everything is fine except that I don't have a master boot record in
>
> Davide Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Every disk have a MBR, sometimes it is not initialized (aka: does not
> > contain any valid initialization code). If you want to install LILO on
> > it, simply run lilo to update the MBR.
>
> really?? that's bad news because I've run lilo more than once and still
> can't boot from this HD (QUANTUM FIREBALLlct20 30, ATA DISK); sometimes
> the box just freezes after stating that if found a valid boot record in
> IDE-0 and sometimes I get the "LI" displayed :-(((
>
> what should I do?
> is there any further info I could provide?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I did 'dd if=/boot/mbr.b of=/dev/hda' :-(((
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:51:36 +0100
> >
> > Every disk have a MBR, sometimes it is not initialized (aka: does not
> > contain any valid initialization code). If you want to install LILO on
> > it, simply run lilo to update the MBR.
>
> really?? that's bad news because I've run lilo more than once and still
> can't boot from this HD (QUANTUM FIREBALLlct20 30, ATA DISK); sometimes
> the box just freezes after stating that if found a valid boot record in
> IDE-0 and sometimes I get the "LI" displayed :-(((
I doubt it.
The LI could occur.
Not being able to find a boot signature, means you
didn't install LILO there at all.
> what should I do?
> is there any further info I could provide?
>
Yep ,
`/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]`
would be useful.
PS. did you run lilo, with the "boot=" flag pointing to /dev/hda ??
(`cat /etc/lilo.conf `: post that too)
Eric
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to compare two text file?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:49:38 +0000
Carl Fink wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:11:57 +0800 percy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >how to compare two text file?
>
> Well, "man cmp" or "man diff" might help you. I found both of those
> pretty easily by typing "apropos compare".
If you lwould prefer a GUI based program - get hold of the tkcvs
package. Although this is meant to enhance CVS (Concurrent Versioning
System - for source code management) it comes with the tkdiff program
which I think is great. I am not sure if tkdiff is available on its own
as I use tkcvs anyway so haven't checked.
Regards
Phil Q
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From: Cyrille Giquello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: upgrade RPM v3.x to RPM v4.x
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:11:57 +0100
Hi,
I would like some help about upgrading
RPM v3.x to a RPM v4.x.
I got the source from rpm.org, but I've got some problem with dependencies :
I'd installed libtool, but I can't install bd3 in the right place that rpm compiling
well.
Has some one experienced this update ???
Thanx,
Cyrille
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: /dev/sndstat
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:25:51 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:01:39 GMT, Young4ert wrote:
>
>Could you please tell me what is the equivalent to /dev/sndstat?
>
/proc/asound/sndstat
Just because I symlinked it to /dev/sndstat. Sort of easier to
remember/type.
Marc
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From: "Mordak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NIC problem.
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:30:33 -0500
Try the NIC in another slot.
Mordak
"News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Can't open eth0 because IRQ 0
> is already in use".
> Thankyou.
> Farhan.
>
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From: niketan sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IRC Server software for rh 5.2
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:30:03 -0000
i want to install chatting for my intranet i am using redhat 5.2 version
for external and internal mail, apache web server for internal web hosting
i want my internal user to chat to make use of my red hat bo what software
should i use and how to go by only serious and complete information is
required
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From: "Mordak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:52:42 -0500
I used lprsetup under SuSE 7.0 and 7.1. I don't think it's SuSE specific. I
have a 722c and it now prints in color as well as mono . See if you have it.
try: whereis lprsetup
Mordak
"Michael Roy Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to set up a printer in linux? I have Linux 2.4.2
and a DeskJet 842c. I have set up parallel and serial port as modules. If
someone could give me step by step instructions, that would be very helpful.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:55:12 +1200
"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:
>
...........
> Facts: Java is a security risk. Java-script is even worse. And ActiveX
> is a nightmare. If you want to deliver information, use plain text.
> Anything else is just adding useless overhead to the core message
> itself.
Mike
I agree. You know that and I know that....but 'they' don't know that. I
have to deal with 'they'.
I've done the push-back thing before....and it isolates you eventually
from some people you need to be able to communicate readily with. If I
am going to argue with people at all, it is NOT going to be about this.
:-)
HTML is reasonably consistent for paragraphing, lists and graphics
inclusion and placement.....which is what I mainly get from some
people.....I'm not sure they even know how to turn it off. I don't have
the time to teach them all...
Thanks for your advice....
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http://counter.li.org
"First, they ignore you. Then they
laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:59:07 +1200
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Did you ever try to tell the U.S.Government or a local government not
> > to send it to you? And if you got them to not send it to you, have you
>
> If people send me ms word, I tell them not to send me proprietary
> formats that do not adhere to open standards. Whoever they are.
I do this too.
"I'm sorry. I don't have Microsoft Word. Can you send it to me in plain
text?"
No explanations. No Microsoft-bashing of baiting. It usually works. I
often get offered an Office CD so I can install it.
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Regards,
Steve Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #24688
http://counter.li.org
"First, they ignore you. Then they
laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:36:41 +0100
From: Tim Van Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux 7 Install problem (two HDs)
Grandbeast Abrahm wrote:
>
> Greetings...
>
> First, the system specs:
>
> --ABIT BE6-II motherboard w/ Soft Menu III and Award BIOS
> --HPT370 UltraDMA IDE controller
> --Pentium III 700MHz CPU
> --Two 7200RPM ATA/100 15GB hard disks
> --256MB PC-100 RAM
> --DVD-ROM/CD-ROM drive
> --CD-RW drive
> --Iomega 100MB Zip drive
>
> My goal is to dedicate each hard disk to an OS; one will hold Windows ME and the
> other will have Red Hat Linux 7. Both hard disks are sitting on one of the
> UDMA/66 (HPT366) IDE channels (IDE3) in a master/slave configuration
> (Windows/Linux respectively). I'm not using any external (PCI) IDE controllers.
>
> When I initially installed Red Hat Linux, I had to move the slave disk to one of
> the other (non-HPT366) IDE channels and set it up as a master. This was done
> because I couldn't get the setup program to see the hard disk while it was on
> the UDMA/66 controller.
>
> The installation completed successfully. However, I can't move the disk from
> the position it was in during the install. If I do, then the drive won't even
> perform the LILO; my system will lock up.
>
> My question is--can I reinstall Red Hat Linux 7 on the hard disk while it's on
> the UDMA/66 controller? If not, then I'll have my Windows hard disk on the
> UDMA/66 channel, and I'll have to set up my zip drive as a slave to the Linux
> hard disk on the other channel. I'd rather have both hard disks (in a
> master/slave config) sitting on the UDMA/66 controller (IDE3) instead of both on
> different channels.
>
> I'm guessing that a fix like this is as simple as editing the lilo.conf file.
> But, I can't find the pattern for the hdx assignments (hda, hdc, hde, etc.) for
> the 'root' and 'boot' lines of the file (the 'boot' line has /dev/hdx, and the
> 'root' section contains /dev/hdxy, where the 'y' is some number). I'd need to
> know how to reassign those values for the Linux drive sitting on HPT366 IDE3
> channel in a slave configuration (the Windows drive will be the master on that
> same channel). I want to get this right the first time.
>
> Whether the remedy is that simple or much more complicated, I'd appreciate any
> help that can be offered. I've already been to
> www.linuxtests.org/stepbystep/ultra66.htm . It was informative, but it didn't
> quite answer my questions about the lilo.conf file.
Normally it's:
Channel 1, Master: hda
Channel 1, Slave: hdb
Channel 2, Master: hdc
...
So you linux disk would probably be hdf if attached as slave on IDE3.
For the purposes of LILO, you'll probably want it on the MBR of your
boot drive
(probably the WinMe disk).
So you'd want to install LILO on /dev/hde (the WinME disk's MBR),
and add 2 boot configurations in lilo.conf:
one 'other' on hde1 (or whatever partition on the winme disk is marked
as active),
labeled 'winme' or somesuch, and one labeled linux with root pointing to
/dev/hdfx, where x is the number of the partition / is mounted on.
If you're using a recent kernel (2.4x), you could also enable the 'swap
IDE'
configuration option; this swaps IDE1/2 and IDE3/4, so your disks would
be
hda and hdb, as if they were connected to the regular IDE controller.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:20:21 +0100
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>>
>> Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Did you ever try to tell the U.S.Government or a local government not
>> > to send it to you? And if you got them to not send it to you, have you
>>
>> If people send me ms word, I tell them not to send me proprietary
>> formats that do not adhere to open standards. Whoever they are.
> I do this too.
> "I'm sorry. I don't have Microsoft Word. Can you send it to me in plain
> text?"
> No explanations. No Microsoft-bashing of baiting. It usually works. I
> often get offered an Office CD so I can install it.
Perhaps I'll try that. They used to send the "official buletin" of the
university to every address on campus in excel format. I had a cronjob
sending it back, plus ascii translation, plus a note telling them that
it had been published on the news server at such and such, and that
they could just send out an abstract and a reference instead of the
whole thing to everyone.
It took about 9 months, but they eventually started sending them in
plain text at least! I'm not sure they grokked that you only had to
click on the link in the mail to see the full thing.
Peter
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