Linux-Misc Digest #494, Volume #24               Wed, 17 May 00 01:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: add a second root-account (Alexander K)
  What does this mean? (Tandem Guy)
  Re: add a second root-account (Alexander K)
  e-commerce solutions ("damien morris")
  Re: How can I add more swap? (David Bell)
  Re: Burning a Redhat 6.2 CD ("Steve Wolfe")
  Re: FreeBSD and Linux (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: e-commerce solutions (Adrian)
  A couple of beginner questions (Tandem Guy)
  Re: What does this mean? (Hector Sandoval)
  Re: A couple of beginner questions (Neil)
  Re: sendmail and .forward (Hector Sandoval)
  Re: e-commerce solutions ("Sean")
  Re: A couple of beginner questions (Alex)
  Jobs Open (Tim Hockin)
  Re: add a second root-account (Harlan Grove)
  Re: How can I add more swap? (Prasanth Kumar)
  Re: add a second root-account (Harlan Grove)
  Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux ("Michael 
Westerman")

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From: Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:58:23 GMT

well actually there is...
if i did sumfin to the /root that disabled rootlogin, then root2 would
be disabled by that very same thing. and root2 was created for the very
purpose of bailing me out of these situations:)



In article <8fsukv$rqc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:
> In <8fscl8$20p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> >i need another root account. not a sudo-thing, but an account that
has
> >100% root privileges.
> >so i figure the way to go about is to have another account with UID
set
> >to 0, correct?
>
> Yup. Fine.
>
> Note the system does NOT use the name. It uses the UID (in this case
0)
> for most things. Thus if you do an inverse lookup, it will report back
> root, not root2 since root is the first username with uid 0.
> There is no point in giving it a new home directory, since it is
> identical to root.
>

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... ak42 at kurir dot net ...


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From: Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: What does this mean?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:14:53 GMT


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Hello.  I'm a new Linux user with what is, I'm sure, a pretty easy
question.  Often in the man pages I see references to other commands
with a numberi in parenthesis immediately following the command name.
For example, I'm looking now at man mount and there is a line which
reads in part: Conversely, the umount(8) command will detach....  So my
qustion is, in this example, what does the 8 indicate.  I am running
RedHad 6.0 if it matters.  Thanks in advance.


Tandem Guy

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Hello.&nbsp; I'm a new Linux user with what is, I'm sure, a pretty easy
question.&nbsp; Often in the man pages I see references to other commands
with a numberi in parenthesis immediately following the command name.&nbsp;
For example, I'm looking now at <i>man mount</i> and there is a line which
reads in part: Conversely, the <b>umount(8) </b>command will detach....&nbsp;
So my qustion is, in this example, what does the 8 indicate.&nbsp; I am
running RedHad 6.0 if it matters.&nbsp; Thanks in advance.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Tandem Guy</html>

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From: Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:07:46 GMT

mostly it would give me a way to login with rootpowers instantly,
without using a boot/root disk.
as i said, i experiment a lot.
lets say i want to make a certain conf file work, and i know it's gonna
take m.a.n.y tries before i'll get it right(and while it's wrong it
somehow disables my root account). let's say 15.
rebooting after every single change? 15 times??? just to make a little
change, to reboot again etc...

furthermore, last time i needed singlemode lilo didnt want to give it to
me. that is fixed now, but whetever else might happen next time.
that's why i want the *security* of a second root-account:)

and while i am experimenting like this, actual security in my puter is a
small concern for me.







In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexander K wrote:
> >
> > one thing. i just noyiced that root2 can't login via a xterm.
> > howcome?
> >
> > and bob and david. i see you weren't pertinent in your answers:)
> > but ok, i'll explain.
> > the second root account is not for another user. it's for me.
> > i experiment a lot. not much important on my puter, and it's hardly
used
> > as a multiusersystem...
> > for example: if i somehow manage to disable my rootaccount (which i
did
> > just recently, making me reinstall) i need another account (which i
> > never use except for these things) which gives me su powers, so that
i
> > can unmake what i did. you see?
> >
> > In article <8fscl8$20p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok. as long as you know it is a big security risk.
>
> But I still don't see how this will help you. For example if you screw
> up "root"  then how is "root2" going to do you any good? I mean "root"
> would already be screwed, right?
>
> I'm curious not being smart about it.
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
>

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From: "damien morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: e-commerce solutions
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:23:15 +1000

Hi all..

I was wondering if anyone knows of any cheap (hopefully free/open source)
e-commerce solutions out there for Linux.. bascially to provide shopping
basket functionality etc, much like the systems used by large online stores.

Replies CC'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be appreciated, thanks!

Cheers,
Damien



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bell)
Subject: Re: How can I add more swap?
Date: 17 May 2000 03:31:39 GMT

>Use dd to create a file of the size you like (look at the manpage), I
>assume you call it /usr/swap.0
>Then just do
>   mkswap /usr/swap.0; swapon /usr/swap.0
>You can create several files. To enable the swapspace at boot time,
>add the following line to your /etc/fstab
>   /usr/swap.0 swap swap defaults 0 0

Hi!  A few hours ago, I rememberd I have Partition Magic, and made another swap
partition.  How do I get Linux to use it?  Thanks for your reply!

=========================
David Bell - Otherwise known as DB7654321

Remember to remove nospam, notrash or anything odd looking from my email
address. :)

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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning a Redhat 6.2 CD
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:28:57 -0600

> Is there anything special I have to do to burn a Redhat 6.2 CD that I
> can use to either install or update existing versions of Redhat? I ask
> because, after reading the Redhat CD mini-howto, I downloaded all the
> necessary files from a Redhat mirror site and burned a CD. However when
> I tried to install 6.2 or update an existing version of Redhat I got an
> error message that said: 'exec: no such file or directory' and the
> install/update terminated. -- Also, I used the latest updated boot image
> from Redhat's website.

  Instead of downloading all of the files individually, try downloading the
ISO image (basically, the cd image).  It's a lot easier and better,
especially since you can boot straight to the CD if you do it that way (no
boot floppy).

steve


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 16 May 2000 22:31:45 -0500

In article <8frpji$eko$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul David Fardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>     "Kerberos, PACs And Microsoft's Dirty Tricks"
>>>       http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/05/02/158204
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>>    There are no surprises here. Do you somehow imagine that the
>>    alternative would be better if Microsoft didn't copy any code? 
>
>No.  But I imagine the alternative might be better if Microsoft made
>its code open.  Better for those of us who use Samba or similar products.

Of course, but there is no history to suggest that is a possible
alternative.

>I assume that if MS did not copy "any code", they'd just continue with
>the status quo, producing shoddy software offering weak encryption in
>its system software and vulnerability in its user software.  That'd
>be bad thing, I guess.

Yes, chances are most of us are going to be affected for the
worse by code breakage so the question is, would you rather
have good, mostly well tested inoperable code or bad new
ineroperable code to deal with.

>I don't know if it'd be better if Kerberos was under GPL, as Microsoft
>probably would not "embrace" something it could not "extend and
>extinguish".  Because this isn't simply Microsoft using the freedom to
>extend the product.  Microsoft is attempting to prevent interoperability
>with your extablished Kerberos servers.  In doing so, Microsoft is not
>just using the open-source Kerberos product, it's also attempting to
>subvert it.

They are in business to make money and will take advantage
of anything possible to do that.  As would any other company
that had the chance.

>Does your statement that "There are no suprises here." mean that
>you agree with the central point I was trying to make: that sometimes
>there _is_ reason for concern, reason beyond paranoia?  Certainly,
>recent findings from the U.S. Supreme Court suggest that this is more
>than paranoia.

Yes, but GPLing things isn't the solution because they just won't
be used and we end up stuck with worse alternatives.  Look at the
years it took them to get TCP right when they tried to reinvent
it.  What we need is something to prevent any single-source from
gaining monopopy power through ownership of a network protocol or
file format.  I'd like to see legislation that would keep at least
the govenment from buying any software product that didn't have a
network and file-format compatible alternative from a different
source who can't license it from the first source.  That is, they
would have to document the protocols and formats to a point where
someone else would duplicate the functionality.  There is really
no reason to let a single company hold your data hostage, or
restrict clients to their own server, or vice versa.

   Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: e-commerce solutions
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:55:16 -0700

damien morris wrote:
> 
> Hi all..
> 
> I was wondering if anyone knows of any cheap (hopefully free/open source)
> e-commerce solutions out there for Linux.. bascially to provide shopping
> basket functionality etc, much like the systems used by large online stores.
> 
> Replies CC'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be appreciated, thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> Damien

There's quite a few of them. Check out http://www.freshmeat.net and
http://www.linuxberg.com

Adrian
-- 
- I just tried this on my old Packard Bell 486/66 w/4MB (Hey ...
- shut-up! I was young, ignorant, and didn't know anything about
- hardware or quality manufacturers.).

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From: Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: A couple of beginner questions
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 03:57:05 GMT


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Hello.  I'm a new Linux (Redhat 6.0) user and I have a couple of
questions.  The first, I think is sort of serious.  I currently only
have root and one other user account.  I've never had any trouble using
either account.  Just the day before yesterday I began having a specific
problem with my root account.  When I boot the machine and log in as
root it takes forever for X Windows (is that the correct term) to load.
Once it loads I don't have any trouble until it is time to log out.
When I click the Log out choice from the menu nothing happens.  I hear
the hard drive spin for a short bit, but I'm not given the normal menu
with reboot, halt, etc  Finally, I end up just turning the power off and
I'm sure this isn't the thing to do.  This only happens for my root
login, I have no trouble halting the machine if I'm logged on as a
regular user. If anyone could solve this mystery, I'd greatly appreciate
it!

On an unrelated note, what's the easiest way to purge the data from a
file, ie set the EOF pointer to zero?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer.


Tandem Guy

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Hello.&nbsp; I'm a new Linux (Redhat 6.0) user and I have a couple of questions.&nbsp;
The first, I think is sort of serious.&nbsp; I currently only have root
and one other user account.&nbsp; I've never had any trouble using either
account.&nbsp; Just the day before yesterday I began having a specific
problem with my root account.&nbsp; When I boot the machine and log in
as root it takes forever for X Windows (is that the correct term) to load.&nbsp;
Once it loads I don't have any trouble until it is time to log out.&nbsp;
When I click the <i>Log out</i> choice from the menu nothing happens.&nbsp;
I hear the hard drive spin for a short bit, but I'm not given the normal
menu with <i>reboot, halt</i>, etc&nbsp; Finally, I end up just turning
the power off and I'm sure this isn't the thing to do.&nbsp; This only
happens for my root login, I have no trouble halting the machine if I'm
logged on as a regular user. If anyone could solve this mystery, I'd greatly
appreciate it!
<p>On an unrelated note, what's the easiest way to purge the data from
a file, ie set the EOF pointer to zero?
<p>Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Tandem Guy</html>

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From: Hector Sandoval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: What does this mean?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:48:33 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

The number that sometimes appears besides a command is the number of
section inside theman pages where you can find the explanation for that
command.

For example, there are two similar entries for the "passwd" word. One
describes the command and the other describes the file /etc/passwd. So
How can you reach the man page for any of them? Because they are in
different sections. To see a command in a different section you should
use the command

man SECTION_NUMBER command_you_want_to_read_about

Try with the passwd entry:

man passwd  (the command is equivalent to man 1 passwd an is the
explanation of the command passwd)
man 5 passwd (is the explanation of the password file /etc/passwd)

Hope this will help.

See you,

Hector


Tandem Guy wrote:

> Hello.  I'm a new Linux user with what is, I'm sure, a pretty easy
> question.  Often in the man pages I see references to other commands
> with a numberi in parenthesis immediately following the command name.
> For example, I'm looking now at man mount and there is a line which
> reads in part: Conversely, the umount(8) command will detach....  So
> my qustion is, in this example, what does the 8 indicate.  I am
> running RedHad 6.0 if it matters.  Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Tandem Guy



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Hector R. Sandoval Mier, Ph.D. Student
Linux - Chigusa Laboratories
Graduate School of Engineering
TOKYO UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
Phone:  +81-(0)90-9966-1080
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A couple of beginner questions
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: 16 May 2000 21:01:12 PST

Tandem Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On an unrelated note, what's the easiest way to purge the data from a
> file, ie set the EOF pointer to zero?

I am not sure on your first question, but on this one:

cp /dev/null file

will set a file to 0.


-- 

Neil

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From: Hector Sandoval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,intel.linux
Subject: Re: sendmail and .forward
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:04:03 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> On Mon, 15 May 2000, K S Venkatraman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am trying to execute a script in my $HOME/bin every time I get a new
> >email. This is how I set up my .forward:
> >
> >"|/home/my_account/bin/script arguments"
> >
> >It doesn't work, the email gets returned to the sender with the message:
> >
> >           sh: script not available for sendmail programs
> >            554 "|/home/my_account/bin/script arguments" ... Service
> >unavailable
> >
> >Any clues on what I might be doing wrong? I did make the script
> >world-readable/executable.
>

Do not forget to read: (specially if you are using Red Hat 6.0 or higher)

http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section2.html#2.13
http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.34

Regards,

Hector


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Linux - Chigusa Laboratories
Graduate School of Engineering
TOKYO UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
Phone:  +81-(0)90-9966-1080
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL:    http://www.teu.ac.jp/linux/~hector/
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From: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: e-commerce solutions
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:12:58 GMT

Try here:

http://www.opensales.org/

damien morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:o9oU4.1349$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all..
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of any cheap (hopefully free/open source)
> e-commerce solutions out there for Linux.. bascially to provide shopping
> basket functionality etc, much like the systems used by large online
stores.
>
> Replies CC'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Damien
>
>
>



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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: A couple of beginner questions
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:22:15 -0400

Tandem Guy wrote:

> Hello.  I'm a new Linux (Redhat 6.0) user and I have a couple of
> questions.  The first, I think is sort of serious.  I currently only
> have root and one other user account.  I've never had any trouble
> using either account.  Just the day before yesterday I began having a
> specific problem with my root account.  When I boot the machine and
> log in as root it takes forever for X Windows (is that the correct
> term) to load.  Once it loads I don't have any trouble until it is
> time to log out.  When I click the Log out choice from the menu
> nothing happens.

I am using RH 6.0 too. I used to have the same kind of problem... But,
it happened in user's account instead of root (in your case.) I can't
really tell you what happened... I happened to me sometimes but NOT
always. Recently, everything seem fine and I don't shutdown my machine
very often... Maybe once a week or a month. So, I really can't tell if
there was anything wrong. That did not bother me too much...

> I hear the hard drive spin for a short bit, but I'm not given the
> normal menu with reboot, halt, etc  Finally, I end up just turning the
> power off and I'm sure this isn't the thing to do.

When you do not get the menu, you can use any term and type "halt" or
"showndown -h now" to halt the machine... Or, type "reboot" or "shutdown
-r now" to reboot the machine
If you just want to get out the X mode, use " Ctrl-Alt-Backspace"
now can be replace by a given time.

Hope this helps

Alex.


> This only happens for my root login, I have no trouble halting the
> machine if I'm logged on as a regular user. If anyone could solve this
> mystery, I'd greatly appreciate it!
>
> On an unrelated note, what's the easiest way to purge the data from a
> file, ie set the EOF pointer to zero?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer.
>
>
> Tandem Guy


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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jobs Open
Date: 17 May 2000 04:22:48 GMT

Geeks and friends of geeks:

I know it is not the right forum, but I can't find any better place to try
and attract really good linux folks.  I don't want to abuse the newsgroup,
I've been around a long time, and I generally ignore job posts, too.

If you are talented, excited, ready to get into an awesome opportunity, and
available soon -- let me know!  We have several software, hardware,
QA and other jobs available for the right folks.  If you have some
experience, and/or great skills drop me your resume.  We need people who
are good programmers, good with UNIX/Linux, good with QA, or just really
good learners.

We're looking for best-of-breed people.  If you feel like you're really a
whiz, or even just pretty-darned-good, let me know.

Skillsets we're looking for:
===========================
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C/Java/assembly/Perl/PHP
CGI/PHP/Apache
GUI design
Network programming
Web caching
HTML/Web app development
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Good attitude
Fast learner


Benefits:
========
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more equipment on your desk than you can shake a stick at
beautiful sunny california - in the heart of Silicon Valley

God, I sound like a recruiter - I'm not.  I'm a software geek - come be
one of usssss....one of ussssss......

Tim

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:29:17 GMT

In article <8fsocb$f71$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip>

>actually, for some reason lilo didnt want to indulge me with a
>singleuser mode a few days ago. i really would've needed that root2
>then.

<snip>

_That_ is a problem you should spend more time figuring out and fixing
than playing with a second root account.

>why are people so anal about making another root account?

OK, there are some books that mention creating additional accounts with
UID 0 and GID 0, but usually with severely restricted 'shells'.

It _should_ be unnecessary, it's either another password to have to
remember or synchronize with the other root accounts, and if you were
on a multiuser system, which root would be the _real_ root if both root
IDs were being used? Maybe not relevant to your situation.

Seriously, what can you fix with a second root ID that you can't fix
logging in as an ordinary user then running su?


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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I add more swap?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:57:04 GMT

David Bell wrote:
> 
> >Use dd to create a file of the size you like (look at the manpage), I
> >assume you call it /usr/swap.0
> >Then just do
> >   mkswap /usr/swap.0; swapon /usr/swap.0
> >You can create several files. To enable the swapspace at boot time,
> >add the following line to your /etc/fstab
> >   /usr/swap.0 swap swap defaults 0 0
> 
> Hi!  A few hours ago, I rememberd I have Partition Magic, and made another swap
> partition.  How do I get Linux to use it?  Thanks for your reply!
<snip>

First make sure the partition type is set to "linux swap" using fdisk or
maybe
partition magic(?) and then do "mkswap /dev/hdxn" where "xn" is the
appropriate
partition name(be careful here!) and then add a line to your /etc/fstab
such
as "/dev/hdxn swap swap defaults 0 0" and finally type "swapon -a" to
enable it.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:47:58 GMT

In article <8ft1s9$pgj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>well actually there is...
>if i did sumfin to the /root that disabled rootlogin, then root2 would
>be disabled by that very same thing. and root2 was created for the very
>purpose of bailing me out of these situations:)

Looks like I did guess the problem.

How about copying /root to /root.safe and /root.test, then
changing /root to a symlink to one or the other. Then put a line
in /etc/inittab to recreate /root -> /root.safe each time you boot. You
can change it to /root -> /root.test as you're making changes. You may
need to use /root.safe explicitly in your shell history file's path.


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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:03:11 +1000

how about Java ?

standalone without a browser.
only needs java vm for platform you wish to run it on.

download from sun....

about 8 - 13 MB though.

Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I'm am currently developing a linux configuration program that
> will be designed to run on all distros for a college research project.
> It is to allow people to create modules for configuring different
> aspects of a linux os. Now these modules can be written in any
> language that can be executed on a system and use stdio. Now to use
> these modules I was thinking of having the modules create cgi forms
> using html. This would require the user to have a loopback connect and
> a web browser on their system, two very common and simple items for
> linux. The webrowser would load the html page, and send a cgi string
> back to the module and the module would edit the system based on the
> users input in the cgi string. Now I was wondering if most people
> agree with the idea of using a web browser for the system
> administration? I figure using html is a common way of implementing an
> interface that most people know. They wouldn't have to learn anything
> new in order to create a module for whatever they wish. Plus
> webbrowsers are available in almost every platform possible so
> transportability would be no issue. What does everyone else think of
> this idea? Any suggestions?





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