Linux-Misc Digest #520, Volume #24 Thu, 18 May 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David T. Blake)
Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ? (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway- please advise (BigDaddyJake)
Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem ("Tom Hoffmann")
Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ? (sleddog)
sound on a compaq presario 5441 (Chuck Busby)
Re: Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem ... SOLVED ("Tom Hoffmann")
cvs server: cannot open /root/.cvsignore: Permission denied (Ste Carlson)
Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway- please advise (Robert Heller)
Re: Partioning Strategies (Robert Heller)
Re: ssh2 and exchanging keys (Frank Hahn)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (John Hasler)
Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (John Hasler)
RAID and SCSI devices need help
Re: HP-UX vs. Linux (Christopher Browne)
Re: Announce: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif
Everywhere (Christopher Browne)
SNMP via Perl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Doug Alcorn)
Re: booting over 1023rd cylinder (John in SD)
Re: WordPerfect (Carl Fink)
Re: WordPerfect (Carl Fink)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: 19 May 2000 00:09:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Basically, a simple editor that doesn't need a 300-page tutorial.
> >I can't find any of those in linux. Not for console anyway.
>
> I'd second this, even Nedit doesn't fit the bill, what we want is just
> Pico with the ability to copy and paste and cut with shift and arrow
> keys, and F keys to do simple things like save, save as and exit etc.
Try microemacs and redefine the function keys to be
the functions you want.
http://www.keck.ucsf.edu/~dblake/programs/
89k binary
However, I would recommend learning the readline key bindings
anyway. They are ubiquitious in linux/Unix systems.
--
Dave Blake
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:06:39 -0400
Fox wrote:
>
> Hi All:
> as the subject
If you find out, let me know. I've posted a couple of times asking...
:^/
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Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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Subject: Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway- please advise
From: BigDaddyJake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:19:55 -0700
Text based install is also a no-go, unfortunately. When
attempting the graphical install, the install program runs
through an inventory (hardware, cards, etc.) then when it
automatically chooses the install option (cd-rom) it freezes.
Using the Lisa Floppy, textual install option, the program
begins to run, the drive begins to grind, and that's all. It
just keeps going and going, but making no progress, until I
restart the comp...
Thank you for your response!
BDJ
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:34:14 GMT
I am attempting to upgrade Enlightenment to 0.16.4 on my RH6.2 system.
Before updating E, I updated imlib-1.9.8, imlib-devel-1.9.8, and
imlib-cfgeditor-1.9.8. No problems reported. After updating the imlib, i
ran ldconfig. No problems reported. However, when I start E, I get the
error: imlib could not be initialized ... this is unusual. I can get no
further. There are no messages in syslog.
I have tried reapplying the imlib updates, uninstalling and reinstalling
E, all with no affect. I have searched the newsgroups and the E web site,
but can find nothing on this problem. Any ideas anyone?
I am using fvwm in the meantime ... its great to have alternatives ... but
would prefer to get E working.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog)
Subject: Re: How to connect to a windows NT server by ppp ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:41:37 GMT
On Fri, 19 May 2000 05:37:52 +0800, Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi All:
>as the subject
This is largely an NT question... not sure about NT server, but to dial
into an NT workstation the machine administrator must grant the user
dialin permission (via User manager).
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sleddog
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From: Chuck Busby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound on a compaq presario 5441
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:43:55 GMT
I have been trying to implement sound to no avail. Using the oss parts
from the kernel it compiles ok, but when I re-boot it says the device is
busy. Has anyone got this on-board sis stuff working on a Compaq
Pressario 5441. btw I run redhad6.0 upgraded to the 2.2.14 kernel
Thanks in advance
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment 0.16.4 Upgrade Problem ... SOLVED
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:51:09 GMT
I solved my problem by going back to the 1.9.7.3 imlibs. I did not see
any mention anywhere about an incompatability between E-0.16.4 and
imlib-1.9.8, but there apparently is one.
In article <qS0V4.73039$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am attempting to upgrade Enlightenment to 0.16.4 on my RH6.2 system.
> Before updating E, I updated imlib-1.9.8, imlib-devel-1.9.8, and
> imlib-cfgeditor-1.9.8. No problems reported. After updating the imlib,
> i ran ldconfig. No problems reported. However, when I start E, I get
> the error: imlib could not be initialized ... this is unusual. I can
> get no further. There are no messages in syslog.
>
> I have tried reapplying the imlib updates, uninstalling and reinstalling
> E, all with no affect. I have searched the newsgroups and the E web
> site, but can find nothing on this problem. Any ideas anyone?
>
> I am using fvwm in the meantime ... its great to have alternatives ...
> but would prefer to get E working.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ste Carlson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: cvs server: cannot open /root/.cvsignore: Permission denied
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:55:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know this is off topic, so please forgive me as I couldn't find any
CVS related newsgroups.
I've set up a CVS repository and am having trouble accessing it
remotely...
I can access it locally, using either my account or the root account.
I can access it remotely using the root account. But, if I try to
access it remotely using *my* account, I get the following error
message:
cvs server: cannot open /root/.cvsignore: Permission denied
cvs [server aborted]: can't chdir(/root): Permission denied
I've searched the web and is seems this is a frequent problem, but the
only proposed solution I could find:
(http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/labs/gtar/notes/index.html)
...didn't work!
Can anyone *please* shed some light onto this issue...
Thanks,
Ste.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Linux, and Gatway- please advise
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:56:35 GMT
BigDaddyJake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 18 May 2000 17:04:41 -0700, wrote :
B> Greetings,
B>
B> I'd like to run Linux on my computer- a desktop Celeron 333
B> from Gateway 2000. I've tried to install Caldera Open Linux 2.3
B> several times without success. It freezes during install every
B> time. I may be crazy, but I'm beginning to suspect that Gateway
B> computers which are shipped with Windows have somehow been
B> tweaked to prevent another OS from being installed. What I'm
B> looking for is an OS to run *instead* of Windows. I want to
B> remove windows from my pc altogether. Any comments or opinions
B> are greatly appreciated.
At UMass we have quite successfully installed Linux on a bunch of
different vintage Gateway boxes, from old P133/IDE boxes through
PIII450/SCSI systems.
Are you *sure* it is freezing and not actually doing something. Where
*exactly* is it freezing? How are you partiting it? If you have a
large disk, you might need to deal with the 1024 cylinder issue. Make a
small (64meg) root partition (/) separate from the rest. Don't try to
make one big giant partition -- not only will you get bit by the 1024
cylinder issue, it will take 'forever' to format a huge file system.
Modern Gateway's are actually generally pretty Linux friendly. The
*main* trouble is going to be various WinCrap hardware: overly bleeding
edge video cards, sound cards, and WinModems. Possibly WinPrinters,
although that is more a Compaq game. The *only* other issue is cheap
disk drives -- we had a couple of boxes shipped with *Quantium* SCSI
disks. Quantium makes really bad drives. Linux + SCSI Quantium ==
(minor) disk errors in about 1 month. (Windows NT 4.0 + SCSI Quantium ==
(major) disk errors in about 6-7 months -- Windows NT does not seem to
notice a slowly failing disk until it basicly dies completely.)
We've installed Slackware 3.0 (on the older boxes, when they were
new), later RH 4.x, RH 5.x, and RH 6.x without trouble (except for some
issues with bleeding edge video cards needing beta X servers). We
don't get boxes with modems and don't order separate sound cards and
don't bother to configure motherboard-based sound cards (sound cards +
speakers + cubicles == bad news).
B>
B> Thank you,
B>
B> BDJ
B>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partioning Strategies
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:56:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy),
In a message on Thu, 18 May 2000 19:47:45 GMT, wrote :
A> I'd like to know what [experienced|knowledgable] people think about
A> different paritioning strategies for linux systems.
A>
A> Which hierarchies should have their own partitions?
A> Which hierarchies can be or should be mounted read-only?
A> What about relative and and absolute sizes?
A> Any other factors?
The root file system, containing the base directories / /boot /etc /tmp
/bin /sbin /lib and /dev should be on a *small*, generally 64-128meg
partition, preferably near the beginning on the disk.
The /usr file system needs to be big enough for the bulk of the system.
1gig is enough for RH 5.2, 1.5 gig is about what is needed for RH 6.x.
/var should be on its own partition -- /var gets 'beat' on a lot -- log
files, lock files, mail spool, news spool, and print spool. A mail
server would want /var/spool/mail on its own file system (or disk), a
news server would want /var/spool/news on its own file system (or
disk), and a print server would want /var/spool/lpd on its own file
system (or disk). I normally make a 'plain' /var 64meg. Heavy duty
mail, news, and print servers are special cases, and need to be looked
at on a case-by-case basis.
/home should be on its own partition -- this keeps random users
(losers) off system file systems. One can have quotas and such without
causing strange issues with the system itself.
Having a /scratch partition is sometimes a good idea. Having multiple
/homes (/home1, /home2, ...) is also sometimes a good idea (lots of
users).
The size of /home (/homeN) is mostly a function of the number of users,
what else is happing and what your backup situation is (size of backup
media, for example).
I don't bother to mount any of these partitions read only, although /usr
can often me mounted RO. Not sure if I would want to bother mounting /
RO. You can't mount /var RO and it will really piss your users off if
you mount /home or /scratch RO. If you do mount / or /usr RO, take care
of /tmp and /usr/tmp !
A>
A> I realize that the role that a particular machine will fill will have
A> an overriding impact on the layout of its partitions, so it would be
A> nice if anyone who is good enough to share his experiences and
A> opinions would also include this factor.
A>
A> btw, I do know about the parition howto, but that is so old and vague
A> as to be of little value. Perhaps any comments provided here could be
A> used to update that howto.
A>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: ssh2 and exchanging keys
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:10:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 May 2000 12:50:17 -0600, Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get a secure connection between some of my Linux boxes
>here at work and had some questions about the exchanging of keys. I
>would like to use ssh to allow for remote backups rather than using
>rsh. I have ssh2 installed on several machines and have disabled
>telnet, but would like to now know more about how ssh exchanges keys and
>how to make remote backups more functional.
>
Take a look at the rsync program. I believe the address is:
http://rsync.samba.org
It will use ssh to make a connection and transfer files between
machines, directories, etc.
--
Frank Hahn
Prof: So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data
encryption standard and they came up with ...
Student: EBCDIC!"
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:10:19 GMT
Garry Knight writes:
> Don't want much, do I?
No. You just want a few minor additions to emacs.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:04:42 GMT
mikey writes:
> Merely *advocating* violence against the government is not illegal.
Which is why I mentioned an "overt act". Accumulating weaponry might
qualify.
> But an organization that has specific plans for violence and which has
> accumulated manpower and weaponry for carrying out those plans would
> certainly be in big trouble.
No, those individual members who the government could show had knowledge of
those plans and weapons would be in big trouble. While being on the
membership list of such an organization would certainly bring you under
suspicion, that in and of itself would not get you convicted of anything.
Of course, being in the building when the BATF agents attack with guns
blazing could be construed as "in big trouble" by itself...
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAID and SCSI devices need help
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:48:20 +0700
The latest fdisk did not find out where is the devices.
Please inform me to scan to where is device on RAID and SCSI to be used
with fdisk.
Please reply via e-mail
Thanks,
supat
p.s. I used slakware 7.
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office: (034)351892 home: (034)351843 fax: (02)5791120
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: HP-UX vs. Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:22:59 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Ben Chauss� would say:
>Do you know what is best between HP-UX and Linux. We want to create a
>web server, and we would like to know what is best does two one ????
I think you'll find that HP-UX runs much better on PA-RISC boxes than
Linux does.
And that Linux runs much better on IA-32 boxes than HP-UX does.
--
"Rather than complaining, I suggest shopping where Linux is
appreciated." -- Phil Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Announce: Motif release to Open Source Community leads to Open Motif
Everywhere
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:22:58 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Chuck Dillon would say:
>They are not trying to compete with Qt, GTK, GNOME... They are trying
>to pave the way for UNIX ISVs to bring their products to 'Open Source
>platforms'. Most likely to prevent those ISVs from abandoning Motif
>for another GUI solution.
Sounds reasonable.
>But Motif was already there at little cost, about $120 bucks, from a
>solid vendor (MetroLink). If someone is going to shell out cash for
>significant UNIX products that $120 isn't going to be a problem.
>Reducing or eliminating that $120 isn't going to contribute much to the
>above stated goal. The ISVs could eliminate that cost by statically
>linking to libXm. But statically linking doesn't scale well as the
>number of 3rd party dependencies increases. Statically linking is a
>bad thing.
... But it _does_ guarantee that you've got a compatible version ...
The unfortunate thing would be if four "in use" versions of libXm
proliferated, as _that_ would lead to people needing to have four
copies installed to expect apps to run, not unlike the several LIBC5
and LIBC6 libs that people often have around.
>So if the cost of MetroLink's Motif isn't the barrier what is it and
>how does 'Open Motif' address it?
Good observation (on the $120) and a good question.
>It seems to me that the barrier is the dependency on too many system
>vendors, IOW, too many independent variables. It seems to me that what
>this is intended to do is to make it possible for LINUX distributors to
>bundle and support standard Motif so that ISVs can take that
>independent variable off their list.
Ah. I think you've hit the nail on the head. This is a _good_
explanation for the policy.
>This is what the LSB is all about. The logical next step is for the
>LINUX vendors and the LSB to embrace 'Open Motif'. That doesn't mean
>they make Motif exclusively the LSB GUI of choice. It just means they
>make sure that an LSB compliant system will provide the Motif runtimes.
>The big question is whether the 'Open Motif' license will be a
>problem. I'm guessing that the Open Group wouldn't have made this move
>unless they had some assurance that it would not be a problem.
I suppose it begs the question of whether or not "OpenMotif" will
actually become part of the LSB.
It will almost certainly _not_, with present licensing, become part of
Debian "main," and thus apps that depend on it won't be able to be in
"main."
Of course, those that are likely _interested_ in Motif are, as you
suggest, ISVs, whose applications doubtless won't be public. In
effect, they won't _need_ to care about this restriction.
And if most newer apps are deployed using GTK (which is getting fairly
common; witness ApplixWare), there's not a _big_ downside to having a
very static OpenMotif library.
Happily, _that_ has a further merit, namely that it means there's not
likely to need to be a bunch of versions of libXm.so out there.
I think the net effect that the desire will _not_ be to put
improvements in, or to "clean Motif up" of the cruft that has
collected, but rather to just plain keep the legacy stable.
Availability of source code has the merit that if people run into
thorny problems with Motif, even if they can't expect to see bugs
fixed, at least they can look at the code and know exactly what it is
that they're working around. That's not the case today for those that
use binary deployments of Motif libs.
On balance, I think I'm starting to like the approach that has been
taken....
- It provides source, which enables developers to better work around
the problems;
- It is sufficiently "under the thumb" of TOG that it has a "force to
help keep it the same," e.g. - stay "stable" (even if ugly);
- It _isn't_ "free software," which discourages "free software folk"
from trying to create hacked versions for their own purposes;
- Despite not being "DFSG-Free," it's "free enough" to become
ubiquitous on Linux (and *BSD), which is supportive of ISVs and
LSB, and the "stability" needs thereof.
I'm not sure we should expect, or even _want_ to expect, a freer
license.
--
Windows 'XCV - A 32 bit patch for a 16 bit interface to an 8 bit OS
designed for a 4 bit chip from a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit
of competition...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: SNMP via Perl
Date: 19 May 2000 02:54:36 GMT
Okay, guys, I think I've got a real winner here.
I'm trying to query a *specific* instance of a *specific* MIB using the
UCD SNMP perl module (UCD SNMP 4.1.1).
If I do this:
######## BEGIN CODE
# Create a socket.
$sess = new SNMP::Session(DestHost => $ip, Community => $comm);
# This is the MIB to query the layer 2 forwarding table of a switch.
$mib = 'dot1dTpFdbPort';
# This is the object used for multi-instance queries.
$vb = new SNMP::Varbind([$mib]);
# Set the instance to the decimal equivalent of the MAC address I'm
# looking for (that's how they're stored in the forwarding table, in
# numeric order).
$vb->[$SNMP::Varbind::iid_f] = '8.0.32.47.24.108';
# Get the next instance of the MIB.
$var = $sess->getnext($vb);
######## END CODE
If I do all that, what I get is the instance of the MIB that's immediately
*after* the one I'm looking for.
Now, the intelligent person would say, "Okay, just subtract one and you'll
get the one you're looking for." Nay, not so, my friends. I *still* get
the one *after*. Not until I reduced the *third* octet to less than *10*
was I able to get the one I was looking for.
The problem is, I can't make any sense of that. Therefore, the only
reliable algorithm I have for searching the forwarding table for an
arbitrary MAC address is to begin at the beginning and just go until I hit
the one I want. This is pretty slow when the table is large. The idea
was to speed up this process (sometimes it will have to run over a modem
link).
Any ideas?
For reference, the instances in the table immediately surrounding the one
I want (in *this* case) are as follows:
8.0.9.151.248.74
8.0.9.186.64.8
8.0.17.12.111.225
8.0.32.27.47.108 (This is the one I want)
8.0.105.2.216.245
8.0.105.2.252.38
8.0.105.2.252.237
(Apparently, the "8.0.105" OUI is a popular vendor. I haven't bothered to
look it up.)
Anyway, any ideas, folks?
Thanks!
--J
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: Doug Alcorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 03:00:25 GMT
Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Doug Alcorn wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
> > > >
> > > >First, the Qt library _is_ now free. Trolltech decided to license it
> > >
> > > It's 'kinda' free. It's still owned by Trolltech.
> >
> > OK, I stand corrected. I really don't think their license is as free
> > as other licenses (although the Open Source Group. With that said,
> > the ownership of the code as little to do with its freedom. The
> > freedom is all in the license. Ghostscript is a good example of free
> > software that is exclusively owned by Aladin Software.
>
> Can you elaborate in what way the QPL is less free than the GPL?
>
I thought I did elaborate. My next paragraph talked about the
limitations of TrollTech being the only one who can distribute derived
works. Or rather, your derived works must be distributed through
trolltech.
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: booting over 1023rd cylinder
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 03:02:02 GMT
The main distribution site for LILO 21.4.3 is:
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
or the author's site:
ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo
This version of Werner Almesberger's LILO will use the EDD bios calls to boot
disks above the old 1024 cylinder limit. You bios MUST have the new int 0x13
bios calls for this version to work.
--John Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Thu, 18 May 2000 18:14:11 +0100, sergio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I understand that there is now an updated version of LILO that will get
>around the 1024 cylinder problem, but I haven't tried it so I cannot
>comment on it.
>
>Also while trying to sort this out for myself, I came accross some info
>buried deep in the Lilo docs that suggested using a file held on an
>alien partition such as MSDOS to hold the boot image and pointing LILO
>at that rather than an image in the Linux partition. The only real
>caveat was that you had to be carefull that the alien OS did not move
>the image about (e.g. while defragmenting its partition).
>
>I have successfully used NUNI to get round the 1024 cylinder problem.
>
>goto http://www.freshmeat.net and search for LILO and NUNI from there.
>
>
>Regards
>Sergio Masci
>
>http://www.xcprod.com/titan/XEBOT
>Visual programming that really kicks ass.
>
>
>Anakin Skywalker wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have a SuSE 6.4 Linux-system that is completely located above the 1023rd
>> cylinder on the harddisk (IBM 20GB - from 16th to 20th GB). Dont blame me
>> for having Windows ME on the first 15 GBs. It disables the use of Loadlin.
>> At least I didnt succeed. How can I boot this system without using the
>> Installation-CD from SuSE?
>> I tried to make two bootdiskettes on a normal disk in a LS-120 drive using
>> the following way:
>> 1.
>> dd if=/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/bzImage of=/dev/hdc bs=18k
>> rdev /dev/hdc /dev/hda7 # hda7 is my root part.
>> rdev -R /dev/hdc 1
>>
>> 2.
>> /sbin/mkfs.minix -c /dev/hdc 1440 # its SuSE
>> mount /floppy
>> cp /boot/boot.b /floppy
>> cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/bzImage /floppy
>> touch /floppy/lilo.conf
>> ----
>> lilo.conf:
>> boot=/dev/hdc
>> install=/floppy/boot.b
>> map=/floppy/map
>> prompt
>> vga=normal
>> image=/floppy/bzImage
>> root=/dev/hda7
>> ----
>> lilo -C /floppy/lilo.conf
>> -> I get a message 1024 exceeded
>> but then it says * linux added
>>
>> Booting
>> 1. HangUp
>> 2. Windows ME starts
>>
>> ??????????????????
>>
>> help me please.
LILO version 21.4.3 (06-May-2000) source at
ftp: sd.dynhost.com dir: /pub/linux/lilo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect
Date: 19 May 2000 02:22:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 May 2000 22:56:30 GMT JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How does it compare to SO5 in terms of responsiveness?
Dramatically slower and buggier, on my system and in my experience.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect
Date: 19 May 2000 02:23:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 May 2000 14:37:14 GMT Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Actually, WP6/7/8 for Linux are based on WP for UNIX. So it wasn't written
>specifically for Linux, but it was written specifically for UNIX, and
>getting the UNIX code to compile on Linux was presumably a fairly simple
>matter.
I meant that the version I bought was specifically coded and compiled
for Linux by SDCorp, not a Windows PE executable running under WINE.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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