Linux-Misc Digest #551, Volume #24               Sun, 21 May 00 17:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Calendar? ("David E. Fox")
  Re: How do you install Redhat Linux 6.0 in a 486 computer. (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: More problems with internal modem (Mark Bratcher)
  Re: Tired of spam! (Mark Bratcher)
  Q: how to set up my sound card? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dial up failure (David Efflandt)
  Re: Disk De-partitioning (Michael Kelly)
  Re: installation of mandrake linux 7.0 (David Efflandt)
  Re: tar question (Flemming Bjerke)
  Re: kernel support for sound (David Efflandt)
  Re: Dial up failure ("David ..")
  Re: Login prompt without hostname (Bob Martin)
  getting started with Apache? (Neil)
  Re: Dial up failure ("David ..")
  How to install Mandrake over existing Red Hat installation? (J. J. Ramsey)
  Slackware or Debian ("Ruben Haugan")
  Re: getting started with Apache? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Cannot use large IDE disk w/ fdisk (Cyrille Artho)
  Re: Tired of spam! (Mark Wilden)
  Re: Dial up failure (Flemming Bjerke)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Ray)
  Re: serial mice & cheap motherboards ? (Bob Martin)

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From: "David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Calendar?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:57:00 -0800

In article <8fveq3$hen$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andreas Kahari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Which calendar program comes with SunOS or BSD?

IIRC, there was a calendar (time-planning, not monthly) utility that
came with BSD. I saw it in the old 386bsd. I was never able to get it
to work, even though it seemed fairly self-explanatory: you put dates and
events in a calendar 'rc' type file and then it goes through that file and tells
you if you have an appointment or something.

Not getting it ever to work for me led me to another text-mode reminder
system called 'remind'. It probably is easily compilable on a Linux system. Un-
fortunately I know not where to find it.

xcal is what I use, that's pretty OK, but of course it's an X application, not
a text-based one.

> # Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
> # All junk email is reported to the appropriate authorities.



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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you install Redhat Linux 6.0 in a 486 computer.
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:04:59 -0400

onasis wrote:
> 
> Hi. I am  having a problem with install linux  in my computer. I want to
> know how do make a bootdisk for linux.can you please help me.. I also want
> to know what I have to do before I install linux.
> Please help me
> 

Onasis,

You'll have to describe what you have. Did you just download Linux
files? Or do you have CDs that you bought? Do you have a manual?

If you have a manual, then I suppose there is an installation section.
If not, then go to www.linuxdoc.org, look for the HOWTOs and find one
that talks about installation.

HTH
-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More problems with internal modem
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:07:08 -0400

Vadim wrote:
> 
> I finally fixed some problems with my modem. It is a Supra Express 336i
> V+ Intl. I tried to configure pnp and it didn't work at all. After
> deleting /etc/isapnp.conf, everything is better now. But now I have
> another problem:
> It works, but very slowly. It is a 33.6K modem, and it seems to be much
> slower. I started minicom and called my ISP, and some text has began to
> appear. It shows six or seven characters, and then stops for three or
> four seconds, then shows the next six or seven characters and stops
> again. I got the same results with commands as ATI10, for an example. I
> though that there is some problem with flow control, so I set it to
> 9600. It was even worse. I got almost the same results with kppp. The
> query modem commands sometimes works and sometimes fails with "modem
> timeout". If it works, it shows an empty list.  Can anyone tell me
> what's happening? And is it possible that it is a winmodem?

I had that problem once with an internal ISA PnP Hayes modem card.

I _think_ (if I remember correctly) I got rid of the problem by
disabling the BIOS setting that said that I have a Plug-and-Play OS. Try
that. Other than that, you might have an interrupt conflict (eg, if you
have a COM2 on your motherboard already, you need to disable it in the
BIOS or jumper).

-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tired of spam!
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:08:59 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Never use your main e-mail when you surf the newsgroups: You might get spammed.
> I receive at least 10 unsollicited e-mails a day! Do you?
> 
> To address this issue, You might want to check this out:
> 
> http://clicks.firstname.com/showfree.hmx?siteid=641041676&BAN=1
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> James
> 
> P.S. If you know about a software that could help me filter my e-mail (by keywords, 
>subject, etc.)
> could you please let me know?

I believe this note posted by "James" is also spam! It has appeared on
every newsgroup that also contains the message about Brittany Spears.

So: warning everyone: I recommend against clicking on the http shown by
this person. It will probably record your email address.

-- 
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
=========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Q: how to set up my sound card?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:18:26 GMT

Hi, all:

I would like to hear any suggestions to my Mandrake 6.1 set-ups on my
sound card.

I have a ESS1868 card (PnP, and I want to keep it PnP for Windows 95).
I have used "/usr/sbin/sndconfig" to set the parameters, I have got the
hardware "activated" notice, but the system always tells
that "<IORESCHECK>" finds errors.

I know I have to check with my I/O port, but I have tried all possible
configurations provided by /usr/sbin/sndconfig, and yet can not correct
this error.

Can someone kindly tell me what is going wrong and how I can do with it?

Thanks.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Dial up failure
Date: 21 May 2000 19:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 21 May 2000 13:46:26 -0500, David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>wing wrote:
>> 
>> I have used GNOME RH dialer to performane the dial up PPP.
>> I have setup the DNS IP as advised by my ISP.  The status of my dial up
>> show connected.  However, when I use Netscape to surf www.netscape.com,
>> there is error 'Server name www.netscape.com' not found.
>> 
>> This makes me confused as 1. the interface stauts is connected and 2. the
>> DNS IP is configured.
>> 
>> Please advise.  Thanks
>> 
>> --
>> Posted via CNET Help.com
>> http://www.help.com/
>
>You can try turning on IP forwarding.
>As root at the command line or xterm give the command:
>
>echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
>Then connect to the ISP and see if that works.
>Also if you don't have a static IP assigned by your ISP then you need to
>set the default gateway to 0.0.0.0

While setting ip_forward might be needed for passing a LAN through a
dialup box (he does not mention a LAN) along with ipchains settings.
Suggesting that he set the default gateway to 0.0.0.0 would do no good at
all.  RedHat does that by default if you do not set a gateway for a
network card and I have to delete it (in /etc/rc.d/rc.local) so it does
not interfere with the defaultroute option of ppp.

Since it is a DNS issue (not no route to host) the real answer is,
something is likely wrong with /etc/resolv.conf (see 'man resolver').

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk De-partitioning
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:31:04 -0400

On Sun, 21 May 2000 19:09:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry
Knight) wrote:

>In article <8g85n1$qis$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...

[snip]

>>One way to do it would be to get Partition Magic 4.0 or later [...]
>
>...which costs money.
>
>Ranish Partition Manager is free and does the job. Provided that your 
>Windows partition is below your Linux partitions, you can use Ranish to 
>change the type of your Linux partitions to FAT16 or FAT32, then format 
>them. You can then delete them and your Windows partition will be 
>resized accordingly.

I've used Ranish and although it is nice to have a free partition
manager and it may be good for experts I find less stress using
Parition Magic 5.0 'cause when I tell it to create or resize a
partition to a certain size it adjusts the req. size to be compatible
with the support OSs, such as Linux, Dos, Windows etc..

I've tried Ranish and I really don't like having to put in the numbers
directly.  Also the user interface is kind of confusing as to what
is a sector number and what is a size in MB.

Also after adjusting fat32 sizes I got funky behavior in Win98
showing shadow icons in Explorer for partitions and incorrect
partition sizes.  When I installed PM 5.0 it detected the errors
in installation and asked me if I wanted to correct them.  They
never came back once it did.

Ranish is definitely worth downloading but if you have $65 I'd go for
the PM 5.0 or higher.  It just takes a lot of the stress out of it for
people who aren't partitioning disks 3 or 4 times a week and need
a comfort zone. :)

[btw- I get no rake-off from PowerQuest but would certainly
accept 6.0 free if offered!] :)



Mike

--

"A man's only as old as the woman he feels."
    -- Groucho Marx

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: installation of mandrake linux 7.0
Date: 21 May 2000 19:57:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 21 May 2000 17:30:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am new to linux,and have installed it on a windows machine. I now cannot
>get into it because it says i don't have some files loaded i need.I was
>wondering how to take it out and reinstall it so it would run correctly.Up
>to now,I have had no luck as i do not know how to do this,and the docs do
>not tell me how.

I assume you are installing it on Pentium or similar (AMD K2, etc.).  It
might help if you listed what files it cannot find.  Make sure the CD is
inserted before you boot from the install floppy, or at least before you
hit enter at the boot: prompt.

My install floppy in Macmillan Mandrake 7.0 was defective, so I had to
make another one.  If your boot floppy does not work see section 4.2 of
the "Installation Guide" to make another one.

Otherwise if you got completely though the install and are missing
something, you might want to go through it again, but select "Update" and
see if you can find the files or packages you are missing.  It is probably
best to set it NOT to boot into GUI mode unless everything tests out fine
for X.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: Flemming Bjerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar question
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:06:12 GMT

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juan angel uribe wrote:

> How can I tar a directory or file?
> I have the directory foo. How can I tar it and also keep the original?
>
> I have tried
> $ tar czv  foo
>
> and I get a bunch of garbage on my screen.
> I have looked at the man page and searched on linuxnewbie.org but to no
> avail.
> hopefully somone can help me
>
> -juan

For me it works all right. Try:

tar -cvzf foo.tgz foo

With f You tell tar to make a certain file, i.e. foo.tgz, out of the
directory. The z option compresses with gunzip.

Flemming

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: kernel support for sound
Date: 21 May 2000 20:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 21 May 2000, Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have built a working Linux box on an old Dell 486. The thing looks
>like Frankenstein's bastard cousin. Working with limited space and no
>soundcard at the time, I loaded the system with out kernel support for
>sound.  I added an old SB 16 and I am stumped! I know the answer to this
>is simple, I have combed the how-to's and my manuals but still I think I
>am overlooking the obvious. The config's don't help and tell me the
>kernel modules are not loaded.  Help me out please!

Which Linux?  If it is Redhat is usually has the sound modules and you
just have to run 'sndconfig --noprobe'.  For anything else you have to
compile the kernel with sound support for SoundBlaster.  While the
following is an example of /etc/conf.modules for it compiled as a module,
it may give you ideas for settings that should work if compiled into the
kernel:

alias sound sb 
pre-install sound /sbin/insmod sound dmabuf=1 
alias midi opl3 
options opl3 io=0x388 
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=3 dma16=7 mpu_io=0x330 

-- 
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial up failure
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:55:00 -0500

David Efflandt wrote:
> 
[snip]
> >> I have setup the DNS IP as advised by my ISP.  The status of my dial up
> >> show connected.  However, when I use Netscape to surf www.netscape.com,
> >> there is error 'Server name www.netscape.com' not found.
> >>
> >> This makes me confused as 1. the interface stauts is connected and 2. the
> >> DNS IP is configured.
[snip]
> Since it is a DNS issue (not no route to host) the real answer is,
> something is likely wrong with /etc/resolv.conf (see 'man resolver').

But he states that he has the DNS configured according to his ISP. 
On my system if I do not set the default gateway and turn on IP
forwarding then I can connect to my ISP but cannot browse the web
either. I think it is due to me using one of the private network IP
numbers for my system and these IP's cannot be transfered across the
internet. Though I am no expert on it.

-- 
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Login prompt without hostname
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:14:42 -0500

Volker Englisch wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to get rid of the hostname in the login prompt without
> editing and recompiling the kernel?
> 
> OS is Debian Linux kernel 2.0.34. As mentioned in some documentation,
> the (a)getty ignores a /etc/gettydefs file. Also none of the unix books
> lying around here give any other advice.
> 
> Any idea?
> 

No need to recompile the kernel since this is not a kernel function.
Take a look in inittab and see what is actually being used for the
consoles. RH uses something called mingetty instead of getty and it
doesn't use the gettydefs file, maybe debian is doing the same.
--

Bob Martin



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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: getting started with Apache?
Date: 21 May 2000 13:16:47 PST

I'd like to start running a Web server from my PC just for
fun and to learn. How can I get started doing this?

I know this seems like a rudimentary question but I don't
really know where to start.

I am running Red Hat 5.2 though I am thinking of going out
and purchasing the 6.1 CD's or whatever is the latest release.



-- 

Neil

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial up failure
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:07:25 -0500

"David .." wrote:

> But he states that he has the DNS configured according to his ISP.
> On my system if I do not set the default gateway and turn on IP
> forwarding then I can connect to my ISP but cannot browse the web
> either. I think it is due to me using one of the private network IP
> numbers for my system and these IP's cannot be transfered across the
> internet. Though I am no expert on it.

What I mean is I use netcfg and have to add a line like this:

ppp0    netmask         0.0.0.0

In the Routing section.

-- 
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From: J. J. Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to install Mandrake over existing Red Hat installation?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:07:59 GMT

I have access to a Linux-Mandrake 7.0 CD that my dad just got from a
Linux expo of some kind. Currently, I have a dual boot installation of
Win98 and Red Hat 6.2, and I'd like to basically install Mandrake in
place of my Red Hat installation, mostly for the experience; I'd like to
see what it's like to have the default X setup be KDE rather than FVWM,
with a graphical login to boot. (When I first installed Red Hat, it was
version 5.2.)

What preparations, aside from of course backing up my data, should I
take before installing Mandrake in place of my current installation?

--
---I am a fool for Christ. Mostly I am a fool.---


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From: "Ruben Haugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware or Debian
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:25:38 +0200

Hi!

I have been using RH 6.0 for some time now, but I`m not satisfied with it,
so I`m going to change distribution soon. My problem is that I can`t decide
whether to choose Debian or Slackware...

Debian is the only "distro" made by an organization, not a commercial
company, and it it developed entirely by volunteers via the net. That really
appeals to me. Slackwares' "mission" is to provide the most "UNIX-like"
linux distro, without all the fuzz, so that you *learn* the linuxsystem from
the bottom. That also appeals to me.

So... I need some help on this one. Can someone who uses Debian or Slackware
tell me a little about the benefits and the problems - simply pros and
cons - of these distributions?

All answers are appreciated:)

Ruben Haugan



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting started with Apache?
Date: 21 May 2000 20:23:23 GMT

Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'd like to start running a Web server from my PC just for
: fun and to learn. How can I get started doing this?

: I know this seems like a rudimentary question but I don't
: really know where to start.

Read the Web-Server-HOWTO.

Uh, Just kidding :-).

Install whatever your distro has in the way of apache or httpd.
Then read the package file list, locate the instructions, and
read (and act on) them. A visit to www.apache.org might/might not
help too. At worst you'll want to buy the O' Reilly book on
the subject.

Come back if you have trouble.


Peter


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:35:42 +0200
From: Cyrille Artho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot use large IDE disk w/ fdisk

> 
> If you are using the "lba32" version of LILO from my site (21.4.3 is latest),
> then you shoud be able to boot from anywhere on the disk ...
> 
>    IF -  you bios supports the EDD bios calls
>  AND - all disks are visible to the bios (0x80, 0x81, 0x82, ...)
> 
> You can check what is visible from the bios with the floppy made with "make
> floppy"  (21.4.3 and later versions of LILO source code).  Remember, you will
> need the Netwide assembler for this make to work.
> 
> LILO version 21.4.3 (06-May-2000) source at
> ftp: sd.dynhost.com   dir:  /pub/linux/lilo
>
The file system malfunction was really a kernel problem; upgrading to
2.2.14 solved it.
However, I still cannot successfully place LILO on the MBR, even when I
use the latest version. I will try the "make floppy" code.
--
Regards,
Cyrille Artho - http://artho.com/ - Tel. +41 - [0]1 - 313 08 92
British education is probably the best in the world, if you can survive
it.  If you can't there is nothing left for you but the diplomatic
corps.
                -- Peter Ustinov

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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tired of spam!
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:39:36 +0100

Mark Bratcher wrote:
> 
> So: warning everyone: I recommend against clicking on the http shown by
> this person. It will probably record your email address.

It couldn't.

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From: Flemming Bjerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial up failure
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:47:56 GMT

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wing wrote:

> I have used GNOME RH dialer to performane the dial up PPP.
> I have setup the DNS IP as advised by my ISP.  The status of my dial up
> show connected.  However, when I use Netscape to surf www.netscape.com,
> there is error 'Server name www.netscape.com' not found.
>
> This makes me confused as 1. the interface stauts is connected and 2. the
> DNS IP is configured.
>
> Please advise.  Thanks
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

have you configured netscape in Edit > Preferences?
Flemming

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:53:17 GMT

On 20 May 2000 15:08:21 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>How graceful is it about hardware differences?
>>
>>The above shouldn't change your hardware config. at all.  In Debian hardware
>>configuration is pretty much a manual affair anyway.
>
>That's a problem - I'm looking for a full-auto system administrator
>(to the extent possible, anyway).

Well, we started out talking about a way to distribute the list of software
installed on one machine to others so that they could start out with a known
good set of packages for a particular task.  Such a system really shouldn't
touch a persons hardware config IMHO.  

>  RedHat uses something called
>kudzu to deal with hardware setup, and it handles things like
>plugging in new hard drives, scsi tape drives, etc.

That does sound rather good although I personally prefer that hardware
configs stay put until I tell them othwise.

>  I'm not
>sure if it will catch video card changes on i386 machines but
>I suspect it will.

Xs' SVGA driver detects and properly handles most video cards regardless of
what distro it is installed on.  Changing from a big modern monitor to an
older one can be a problem though.  Also, the frame buffer driver is very
portable (although it's not accelerated). 

>
>>> And is there
>>>a way to do a subsequent update (including adding/removing as
>>>well as updating packages) on the master so the copies can
>>>track along?
>>
>>I imagine you could repeate the above any time you wanted to sync the client
>>machines' packages but I can't say I've ever tried it.  Most people just use
>>"apt-get update" "apt-get upgrade" to keep their packages up to date.  If
>>you have several machines that you really want to stay identical then you
>>might be better nfs mounting the / dir from the server or maybe using rsync.
>
>Rsync doesn't know about any of the config changes that go along with
>changed files.  We need something that knows how to delete an
>existing package that the maintainer no longer wants (example: he
>switches from sendmail to postfix).

How many programs really need different configs on each client?  I havn't
used postfix but with exim a single config file should be ok for all the
target machines (localhost is localhost no matter where you are right?).  

You might want to have a look at the remote-boot HOWTO (I think that's the
one) since the issues of dealing with a bunch of remote booted machines are
essentially the same as the ones you're facing.

-- 
Ray

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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: serial mice & cheap motherboards ?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:05:06 -0500

Mike Keiser wrote:
> 
> a while ago, I bought a board w/out ps2 support (sigh), and
> strangely enough have been unable to get any mouse to work
> through my serial port.  this applies to both x and the general
> console - apparently my box isn't detecting the thing at all.
> 
> I've tried all the basic solutions, read countless howto's, and
> gotten various friends to help me mess around with some
> interesting serial hacks, but all to no avail.  any ideas?
> 
> - mike keiser

You could have a dead or flaky serial port. I recently had one die on a
machine which a modem was attached to. I noticed something was because
the modem had both the RD ans SD lights in solid and it would no longer
dial out. Had been working fine for years up to this point. When I moved
the  mouse to that port it no longer worked so I concluded it was the
port and not the modem at fault. Can you try it on the other port ?

--

Bob Martin



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