Linux-Misc Digest #551, Volume #25 Thu, 24 Aug 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Where to install apps on Linux system? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Vmware: booting os installed on raw disk under VM (Paul Lew)
Installing RedHad Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Banner ("Mark")
Re: Disk clone - almost (Juergen Pfann)
Re: PPP and the death of two modems (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Distro change: To debian or SuSE ?? (NoMadis)
Re: KDE and Gnome (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (Garry Knight)
Re: Apache CGI problems. (psantt)
Re: Installing RedHad Linux (David M. Cook)
Re: Lotus Mail ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: Lotus Mail ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: Aww, man! ! ! ! !!!!!!! (Scott Morgan)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Where to install apps on Linux system?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:04:27 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Andrew Purugganan would say:
>Dances With Crows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>[ /opt is often a symlink to /usr/local/opt, since that allows you to keep
>[ local and optional things all in one place. Though it may not look like
>[ it at first glance, the directory structure of Linux is laid out in a
>[ logical fashion and there are some definite rules about what can go
>[ where--search for "Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard".
>
>what gets confusing to the newbies (hey, I'm a
>newbie-running-on-and-off-linux-for-2-years-now) is when we see bin or
>usr appear in so many places (I don't know if those are good examples)
>and that's where we can get lost. I wish some of the magazines would put
>out a poster that shows the heirarchy or tree. Maybe that'll help the
>rest of us look for XF86Config or XF86setup or something e.g. I could
>scribble it on that chart for later
>
>But thanks for your replies, they're very informative
You really ought to take a look at FHS.
<http://www.pathname.com/fhs/>
This site documents quite a bit of the "archaeology" of where the
hierarchy came from.
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"If roach hotels worked on pointy haired people, Microsoft would die."
-- Pete Koren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:04:21 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Matthias Warkus would say:
>It was the 24 Aug 2000 10:43:56 -0600...
>...and Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Take a look at MacOS X Bundles:
>[schnipp]
>> Linux is halfway there already with RPM and deb; but the ultimate goal
>> is to just get rid of them.
>
>Uh-oh, I feel another flamewar coming up on NeXTish .app encapsulation
>vs. the classic Unix way of spreading an application out over bin,
>lib, share etc...
I think that makes the mistaken assumption that people _understand_
the NeXT approach.
The flames are not likely to come as a result of people knowing about
.app and "classic Unix," and considering one or the other to be
superior.
The flames will mainly come as a result of people not understanding
_either_, and associating things with some "Star Wars-like" epic
battle between the Rebellion and the Empire...
--
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Rules of the Evil Overlord #14. "The hero is not entitled to a last
kiss, a last cigarette, or any other form of last request."
<http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:07:14 -0400
John Hasler wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer writes:
> > So I am still not sure if it does anything from GNOME/Enlightenment-X
> > Window System (where I usually run) or not.
>
> It never would have occurred to me to try to run it from X.
I thought the whole idea was to regain control of a non-crashed Linux
system when the X Window system was so crashed that you could not make
C-A-Bs or C-A-F[1-6] work. If you can get down to a regular Unix/Linux
shell, then you can easily kill the X stuff and start over without
rebooting. Probably changing the run level from 5 to, say, 3, and back
would do it. Then you would not even need to know what processes to kill
and restart.
> 'syrq' was a typo. Sorry.
No problem: it was obvious once I got into the appropriate directory.
So I must still resort to going to my other box and ssh-ing my way into
this one. Fine for me, but not fine for those with only one machine.
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Vmware: booting os installed on raw disk under VM
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:09:36 GMT
The vmware virtual windows ia 1 huge file; like if you had tried the "free"
beos. The "raw disk" mode is for use of an existing windows install so that
a "virtual windows" would not be needed; in other words, a dual boot system.
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:42:23 -0500, David B. van Balen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I'm currently running Windows off of a virtual disk under Vmware. Recently
>I decided it would be nice if I could install Windows onto the raw disk
>so that I could dual boot as well as running it in a VM.
>After doing some research on vmware's web site, I found out that while
>this is technically possible, a windows installation made from a virtual
>machine probably won't be directly bootable... it doesn't, however, say
>why, which I found annoying.
>I doubt that I'd be able to install windows (95/98, anyway) onto that
>partition at this stage without wiping out my Linux install, so being able
>to do the above would be very convenient for me.
>
>My question: has anyone been able to do the above? i.e. install windows on
>a raw disk using vmware and then boot it directly. If so, does anything
>need to be done other than adding the windows partition to lilo?
>
>TIA
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installing RedHad Linux
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:59:03 GMT
Hi, I'm a newbie in the forum. I'm trying to
learn C, so I attempted to install Linux. My
current config is an IDE HD & CD on my ide0 and
second IDE HD on ide1. My first HD is 13GB w/
two partitions w/ Win98. I attempted to install
Red Hat Linux on the second HD w/o success. Can
anyone help. Thankx.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:10:29 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> :> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> :> :> Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> :> :> You should use the Magic SysRq key to resync your hard disks, remount all
> :> :> partitions read only and THEN and only then reboot.
> : But WHERE IS THE LIST of SysRQ options and their effects?
>
> Whenever I want to see the list, I hit ctrl-alt-sysreq-w.
Fine, once you know about it and have seen the list. And if it works as the
documentation says.
> That seems to
> list them. Cryptic, but you can make out what the cipher is by trying
> them one by one (I'm still vagoue about the difference between tErm and
> kIll or whatever. I think one kills all tasks and one kills the ones
> attached to your tty. But because of that it's hard to distinguish :-).
I very much doubt it. A TERM sends the process a 15 signal, which it can catch.
A process electing to catch a 15 is expected to do minimal processing (cleanup)
and get off.
A KILL sends the process a 9 signal, which terminates it with extreme prejudice. A
process cannot elect to catch a 9 and never gets a chance to clean up.
> Anyway, I only use S U S U B.
>
> Peter
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Banner
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:14:12 -0400
I wanted to know how to change the banner so whenever somebody on the
network telneted to my machine they wouldn't see what os I am running and
what kernel I am running. Thanks in advance.
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk clone - almost
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:12:37 +0200
jeff wrote:
>
> Thanks for the post, Juergen - but what we're having here is, I believe, a
> failure to communicate. I _AM_ using dd to copy _ONLY_ THE MBR. dd is NOT
> copying anyhing in hda1 or any other partition. The COUNT=1 AND BS=512 AND
> IF=HDA on the dd specify that only the _FIRST_ 512-BYTE BLOCK ON THE
> PHYSICAL DISK is to be copied. The rsyncs are copying the data within the
> partitions, the dd is copying ONLY the mbr (count=1 bs=512).
>
> AM I WRONG ABOUT ANY OF THAT?
No, perhaps I read over that... Of course, the bs=512 count=1 parameters
actually specify to transfer only the very first sector, generally
known as MBR, between the disks - including the disk's *partition table*
(which is in byte 446-509 of the MBR, counting from 0).
To me, that seems not too wise, though : if the disks ARE identical in
size, and your goal IS to make a clone disk, you had better copy ALL
sectors in order to achieve this - and if your disks are NOT identical,
perhaps partitioned differently, the transferred partition table would
be *wrong* - i.e. not fitting to the actual starting and ending sectors.
You are free to do it anyway you like, but firstly I would call that
procedure only copying, not cloneing - regardless if any user will
notice any difference or not, the difference IS there. To put it
clear, by your rsync method you might have the same directory and file
(system) structure on both HDs, but there's no guarantee that file A
from disk 1 uses the same disk sectors as file A on disk B.
That might be an academic issue, but the subject of this thread IS
"cloneing", and your procedure is not an example for that.
We're not talking about the time "rsync" vs "dd" takes, either -
why would one want to compare timings of _not_ comaparative methods?
>
> It all makes perfect sense AND explains my LI message problem, as I posted
> previously. 2 + 2 still seems to = 4! But if I'm still being dense and
> missing your point, please try again :)
Well, what's not perfect with your method is that MBR transfer - in
fact, it's totally senseless and useless !!!
Please think about it, Jeff : if you insist in only rsync'ing your
files between your disks, you'd have to admit that the target disk
already has to be partitioned properly - and that is, REGARDLESS if
both disk share the same sector count or not. Thus, there's absolutely
NO point in overwriting your working partition table on the target
with one potentially different and wrong. Furthermore, as the first
446 bytes of a LILO MBR contain machine code that (a. o.) jumps to
the ABSOLUTE CHS location of some files in /boot, e.g. /boot/map,
this code will *almost certain* fail because the absolute location
of these files will *almost certain* differ between your two
copies-not-clones. Thus, in order to boot from your copy-not-clone,
you will HAVE TO reinstall LILO anyway - so why transfer a LILO
machine code first you KNOW won't work ????
As a resume, you'd better omit that MBR transfer - keep it as a
backup file on your HD, if some Micros~1 OS goes berserk...
Juergen
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP and the death of two modems
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:24:32 -0400
News User wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:54:13 GMT, Kermit Lowry, III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In the last 4 months I have had two modems die a slow and painful
> >death. Here is the environment - pentium II 400 clone, mandrake 6.0
>
> I wonder if you're getting some sort of spike in on the telephone line itself
> which is killing the modem? That's the only thing that I am aware of that
> might do it (other than the cat piddling on it <grin>). I doubt that anything
> the system (Linux or NT) would do could kill it. I'm not a hardware guru,
> but I just can't see any software causing some sort of modem death. I have
> an external (Phoboe) modem that I've had for about 2 years now. I have never
> had a problem with it & ppp. Hum, if the were external modem attached to the
> same serial port, perhaps the serial port is putting out too much voltage
> on occassion?
While I was in doubt if the original poster meant the modem burned out, or just
whether the configuration changed in such a way that it did not work anymore, if
he meant it literally burned out, he should certainly check out his telephone line
to be sure there are no high voltages on it. A surge protector on the telephone
line is a worthwhile investment. I use this one for telephone lines:
http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/SURGEARREST.cfm?part_num=PTel2
and this one for ethernet:
http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/SURGEARREST.cfm?part_num=PNet1
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NoMadis)
Subject: Re: Distro change: To debian or SuSE ??
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:40:15 GMT, Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Greetings all:
>
>First of all I don't want to know what the "best" distribution is, so don't start on
>that :)!
>I am currently using Caldera 2.4, but am considering changing distro
>due to some problems. I am by no means an experienced linux user, having
>only about 3 weeks use time but am thinking of trying debian , partly because
>I hear it has a program that eradicates the annoying dependancy problems
>with rpms.
>
>Some questions:
>Is debian as hard as they say?
who says that?
It is true that installing it from scratch needs a triffle of
intellingence involved. But then you only need to do that once, and the
ease of adding programs after you've got a minimal install up and
running i find unsurpassed.
>Does the apt-get program work?
well, you think they would release a program that doesn't work? :)
>Can debian use rpm and is it easy to get .deb packages?
>General: is it good?
Debian can use rpm, but I never found the need to make use of rpm's
myself. There are really alot of .deb packages around.
>A review in kclinux.com talks of a "commercial version" including 3 cd's
>and a book. Where can this be got, a vendor in europe is needed as I
>live in Ireland. I would be looking for Debian 2.2
I dont know about "commercial". Debian is a volunteer organization, not
a company. It works with a social charter, is not listed on nasdaq, and
never will be. This may or may not influence your decision.
I order my CD's from cheapbytes BTW.
>Other than that I see that SuSE are about to launch a new version.
They do so frequently. Debian releases a new version less often
than the others, and with much less brouhaha.
This doesnt say that you'll be working with programs that are a year or
more old: The stable distro get updated frequently.
>Thinking of that also.
hmm. two days ago i read a complaint from a linux programmer that
the SUSE people were "patching his programs with unneccessary crap", and
because of that he was never able to help people who ran SUSE.
This might or might not be an isolated case.
>I want to use my computer for internet stuff, java development, all the
>normal things.
please develop a better jvm for netscape... :)
>Expecting a wave of replies..
>
>Kyle
>
>public void thanks {
>word.thanks();
>}
>
>
>
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Greetz,
Joop
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE and Gnome
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:33:44 -0400
Juergen Neuhoff wrote:
> I have installed a Red Hat Linux 6.2 with the Gnome GUI.
> How can I also install the KDE and use both according
> to what I need at a given time?
>
> Juergen Neuhoff
If KDE is not installed already, just do an rpm -Uvh of the
required pieces. I do not use KDE, but it was the default screen
mangler on my machine and I left it there because other users
might wish to use it. If I check what is there, I get:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ rpm -qa | grep kde
kdetoys-1.1.2-2
kdebase-1.1.1-1.2
kdegraphics-1.1.2-2
kdelibs-1.1.2-9
kdeutils-1.1.2-2
kdesupport-1.1.1-1.3
switchdesk-kde-1.7.0-1
kdeadmin-1.1.2-3
kdegames-1.1.2-2
kdemultimedia-1.1.2-3
kdenetwork-1.1.2-4
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$
I have not been diligent in keeping the KDE stuff up-to-date.
Now I am running GNOME and if I press the Gnome's foot, I get a
menu that includes the item:
System->Desktop Switcher
Pressing that will switch me to KDE. Similarly to get from KDE
to GNOME. (I think you must logout and login to make the change
take effect, but I no longer remember. You do not need to
reboot.)
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 00:52:56 +0100
John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Karsten Wutzke wrote:
>
>> Can anyone explain WHY some characters are prohibited?
>
>Some characters should not be used in filesnames because they may
>have a more general meaning as directory or command separators,
>piping directives, or even terminal control characters.
That doesn't stop some software using them. For example, the krn
news client, names spooled articles ready for upload with names
like <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: psantt
Subject: Re: Apache CGI problems.
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:40:55 GMT
Walter and all:
Are you trying to send messages back to a browser? If so I had one
heck of a time as well using the standard print commands (with the
content-type header, and the rest as plain print commands....)
Try this and see if you can get it to work... and for the rest of the
group, why don't both work??? It really overwhelms me why it
doesn't... am I missing a module or something?
Program a: (Works on my BSD Apache mod, but NOT with my Linux Apache
Mod)
A.cgi.....
#/usr/bin/perl
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print "<HTML><BODY>";
print "Hello";
print "</BODY></HTML>";
Then try...
B.cgi......
#/usr/bin/perl
use STRICT;
use CGI;
my $cgi=new CGI;
print $cgi->header;
print $cgi->start_html(-title => "test page");
print "Hello";
print $cgi->end_html;
exit(0);
This one works on my Linux machine, but not being a PERL expert, why
does the first one NOT work and the second one does???? The exit(0)
is assumed, isn't it?
I'm really not interested in learning the CGI module commands...
I can get the first one to work in regular editor mode, so it's
something with the web server setup???
Thanks, and sorry for wasting your time Walter if this isn't it....
psantt
Walter, I hope this helps if that's your problem.... it's unlikely but
it sounds similar to when I started to try to get my cgi scripts
executing....
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:30:04 GMT, walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Content-Type in the script is correct.
>My ISP allows you to run CGI scripts locally
>inside the public_html directory.
>
>The error message tells me nothing in the browser,
>the error message in the error_log is:
>
>"premature end of script" . I originally put the cgi scripts in
>the designated cgi bin but they didn't work, giving the same error.
>
>The book indicates you can create a .htaccess file in the local directory
>to override and allow local cgi's. It also said that you could do so in
>the httpd.conf file.
>
>I read about 50 different messages this year of people having the same
>problem, I tried every suggestion given and still no luck. I also have not
>seen any indication that anyone ever solved the problem.
>
>This is a pretty basic function, someone must know how to fix it!
>i
>Akira Yamanita wrote:
>>
>> walter wrote:
>> >
>> > I can't get cgi scripts to work anywhere, not in the defined cgi bin,
>not
>> > in the public_html, I've tried everything suggested by the 100 other
>> > messages on this same subject. I have a copy of a working web site,
>the
>> > scripts fun fine on my ISP site but on the SuSe box it just says that
>the
>> > scripts ended prematurely. Does anyone have anthing new to add to
>this or
>> > has ANYONE actually fixed this on their system? I've been working on
>this
>> > for about 2 months and I am about ready to destroy this infernal
>machine!!!
>>
>> You mean premature end of script headers? What's the exact error?
>>
>> Though I find it strange that it works on your ISPs server (also
>> uncommon that you can run your own CGI scripts) but the error I
>> mentioned is a script error. You need to make sure you've defined
>> the content type in the script.
>>
>> In perl: print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
>> or whatever content type that the CGI script is serving up.
>>
>> If this is obvious to you, then post the exact error message.
>>
>> I don't know what previous responses you've gotten so sorry
>> if this is all repeated information.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Installing RedHad Linux
Date: 25 Aug 2000 02:43:10 GMT
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:59:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Red Hat Linux on the second HD w/o success. Can
>anyone help. Thankx.
What version of Red Hat is this? (Oops, I already erased some of what you
wrote, so I apologize if you already gave this info.)
Could you give some info about the second drive? How big is it? At what
point of the install does it fail? Are there any error messages?
I suspect what may be happening is that you have a windows partition taking
up all of the second drive. If so, you can use DOS FDISK to remove it then
do a "Workstation" install. Or do a custom Red Hat install, remove any
windows partitions on the 2nd drive in Disc Druid and create 2 partitions on
it, /boot (16M) and / (the remainder).
Note that unless you use a bootfloppy, you still need to install LILO on the
master boot record (MBR) of the first drive.
Dave Cook
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lotus Mail
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:55:16 -0700
someone wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> Is there a mail connector I can use with sendmail/qmail/fetchmail, etc..
> that allows me to get mails from the server if the server is not configured
> for pop/imap due to whatever reasons ?
Basically, no. Believe me, I've tried.
There's a Windows API to access the Lotus database but
it's strictly for Win*. The *nix clients are strictly
interactive and there isn't one for Linux anyway. So
you and I (thanks to IT decisions to close off IMAP, POP,
and HTTP access) are pretty much stuck using Windows boxes
to read mail.
Which would majorly suck even if I *had* a Win box.
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8o0khd$rvv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.help someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : My company uses lotus mail server for their internal email needs. My
> problem
> > : is this :- I'll be setting up a internet gateway on a linux box. Is
> there
> > : anyway to setup a linux web-base email server to interface to the lotus
> > : server so that I can read my mails anywhere in the world ?
> >
> > ?? If the lotus mail server supports pop or imap you can get email from
> > it anywhere anyway. Maybe lotus mail isn't mail. Doesn't it have a web
> > interface too? Just curious.
> >
> > Peter
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| Do you want to be a problem? |
| D. C. Sessions === [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lotus Mail
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:56:37 -0700
Russell Uman wrote:
>
> there is a linux version of domino...
Nice if you're the IT department running a server, but
not much help if all you want is to get your mail.
> "someone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8o0iqm$9nd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > My company uses lotus mail server for their internal email needs. My
> problem
> > is this :- I'll be setting up a internet gateway on a linux box. Is there
> > anyway to setup a linux web-base email server to interface to the lotus
> > server so that I can read my mails anywhere in the world ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks a million in advance.
> >
> >
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| Engineers solve problems -- it's what we do. |
| Do you want to be a problem? |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Morgan)
Subject: Re: Aww, man! ! ! ! !!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 03:01:13 GMT
>Is this a SiS 6326? Here is my device spec.:
>
>Section "Device"
> Identifier "SiS 6326"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> BoardName "Unknown"
> # VideoRam 8192
> # VideoRam 4096
> # Option "no_bitblt"
> # Option "sw_cursor"
> Option "edo_vram
WHY HAVE I NEVER SEEN THIS OPTION DOCUMENTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i feel like doin my best chris farley impersonation, but i will spare
you all...
> # Option "no_accel" # Use this if acceleration is causing problems
> # Option "fifo_moderate"
> # Option "fifo_conserv"
> # Option "fifo_aggresive"
> Option "fast_vram"
> Option "pci_burst_on"
> # Option "xaa_benchmark" # DON'T use with "ext_eng_queue" !!!
> # Option "ext_eng_queue" # Turbo-queue. This can cause drawing
> # errors, but gives some accel
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
>EndSection
>
>I am able to get 1024x768 at 24-bits:
hmph... well, ive been tryin to get eth1 workin still, to no avail...
why cant isapnp allocate any IO ?
i know that the address im givin it is free, im running it as root...
hmph... IO 0x028f IRQ 5 ... :o(
anyone?
before anyone sez it, ive read EVERY man page referenced by isapnp and
isapnp.conf ... So anyway
everythings set up in linuxconf, everything SHOULD be setup in
isapnp.conf... but whenever i run it, just...kaput :o(
oh well...
smelly scott boi, over...
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:57:33 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o4ina$daf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : This who XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
> : something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:
As a a data storage format XML is no better than any other file format and
it does not prevent creating none portable private data format.
Remember this example:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
<!DOCTYPE RESULTSET SYSTEM "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd">
<RESULTSET>
<RESULT ID="0" >
<MATCHES>0</MATCHES>
<TIME>0.1605</TIME>
<RATINGS>0</RATINGS>
<MAXSCORE>2510</MAXSCORE>
<SCORE>6947</SCORE>
<SIZE>6536</SIZE>
<LANGUAGE>_LANG1_</LANGUAGE>
<DATE>957148708</DATE>
<FORMAT>0</FORMAT>
<MODDATE>0</MODDATE>
</RESULT>
</RESULTSET>
How portable would this version of it be?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
<!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
<RST>
<R ID="0" >
<F0>A</F0>
<F1>q20e3</F1>
<F2>e</F2>
<F3>lsm2</F3>
<F4>928l</F4>
<F5>pqke</F5>
<F6>2ksnfui</F6>
<F7>mpqw395hg</F6>
<F7>2</F7>
<F8>5</F8>
</R>
</RST>
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