Linux-Misc Digest #560, Volume #24 Mon, 22 May 00 15:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Multiple OS's for software testing (Rod Smith)
Re: Slackware or Debian (Johan Kullstam)
Modem recommendations (Dave Rolfe)
Re: "tail" stops tailing? (drakiel)
Re: No answer from freewwweb (Was Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs?) (Brian Moore)
Re: Format a floppy in Linux ("Robert L.")
Re: Multiple OS's for software testing (Roger Troost)
Re: Intel Providence boot failure with 2.2.14 (Charles Roten)
Rueda del intellimouse en netscape? ("Jaime B. Zamora S.")
whereis info on AnotherLevel/FVWM2? Is it Buggy? (Peter Bismuti)
Re: PDF files (Ian Mortimer)
time sychronisation on Linux/NT (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Re: sendmail question (David C.)
Supermicro PIIIDME with Red Hat 6.2 SMP (Dimitri Komatitsch)
Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: getting started with Apache? (Grant Edwards)
Re: RE:distro-related supermount? problem (MrJack)
Telephony (John Hanson)
Re: Just a Black screen in Gnome-terminal? ("Kevin Vandersloot")
Re: Format a floppy in Linux (Leonard Evens)
mirroring "root" disk on redhat 6.1 (Marco BANO)
can't run X as root (Peter Bismuti)
HP DeskJet 930C PhotoREt III or 2400x1200 dpi (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Double login required (Mark Wilden)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Multiple OS's for software testing
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:08:42 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm writhing code that is intended to run under Win(Any) and eventually
> Linux. My question is if anyone has ever set up a computer that has all
> of the following OS's on them, or if it is a bad idea? DOS 6.x for some
> old legacy code, Win95, Win98, WinNT 4, Win2000, and Linux. I know that
> is a lot of OS's, but we will use Partition Magic to set up partitions
> and control booting. Thanks for any helpful information.
Yes, it's possible. The main problem is that the MBR used on x86 PCs can
handle only four primary partitions, and Microsoft OSs insist on
installing on primary partitions. Therefore, you'll need to do one of two
things:
1) Place ONLY the four Windows OS boot partitions on the first physical
disk, and use a second disk for shared data partitions and Linux.
(Linux can happily boot from a logical partition, even on a second or
later disk.)
2) Double up at least two of the Windows OSs on a single primary
partition.
You can achieve option #2 with Windows boot loaders, but the easiest way
to do it is to use System Commander (http://www.v-com.com). System
Commander lets you install an arbitrary number of Microsoft OSs on a
single primary partition, and switch between these and OSs on their own
partitions (like Linux) quite easily. (There may be other programs that
can achieve similar effects.)
Another option you might want to investigate is using VMware
(http://www.vmware.com) to run two or more OSs simultaneously on a single
computer. Depending upon the nature of your development efforts, this may
be easier to do, despite the speed loss inherent in using VMware.
Similarly, using two or more computers on a network may be a good
solution.
Finally, you may want to check out my book, _The Multi-Boot Configuration
Handbook_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/), which covers many
multi-boot issues.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: 22 May 2000 13:13:55 -0400
"Ruben Haugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi!
>
> I have been using RH 6.0 for some time now, but I`m not satisfied with it,
> so I`m going to change distribution soon. My problem is that I can`t decide
> whether to choose Debian or Slackware...
>
> Debian is the only "distro" made by an organization, not a commercial
> company, and it it developed entirely by volunteers via the net. That really
> appeals to me. Slackwares' "mission" is to provide the most "UNIX-like"
> linux distro, without all the fuzz, so that you *learn* the linuxsystem from
> the bottom. That also appeals to me.
>
> So... I need some help on this one. Can someone who uses Debian or Slackware
> tell me a little about the benefits and the problems - simply pros and
> cons - of these distributions?
first off, there is less difference amonst them than most people seem
to believe.
1) they are all linux kernel with gnu tools.
2) you can install most anything by downloading source, configuring,
running make &c, in *any* distribution.
3) no distribution prevents you from diving into configuration and
editing it yourself.
> All answers are appreciated:)
try them out. run them for a week or so each. see what you like. i
recommend making a /home partition so that your personal stuff can
more easily survive (there's no need to blow away /home just to change
distributions). when you get ready to clobber /, save system config
information from /etc by tarring it up and keeping it in the /home
partition. you may want/need to borrow some settings between
distributions.
--
johan kullstam l72t00052
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From: Dave Rolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem recommendations
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:10:51 -0400
Tomorrow is the first meeting of the Rhinebeck HS LUG! In preparation
for this meeting I have been thinking about modems. My suspicion is that
many of the kids have winmodems and so will be needing to purchase
external modems. Do any of the readers of this group have
recommendations about brands and models of modems to purchase?
I have a US Robotics external modem that works great. But these modems
tend to be a bit pricey. Any thoughts???
Thanks, Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (drakiel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: "tail" stops tailing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:22:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Gillam wrote:
>Matt Siemens wrote:
>>
>> Bjoern Frantzen wrote:
>>
>> > Matt Siemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >Here's what I'm trying to do:
>> > >
>> > >I'm using tail to output the system log (/var/log/messages) to
>> > >/dev/tty12 via the /etc/rc.d/rc.local startup script. I'm using the
>> >
>> > I don't know the answer to your question, but I think a better approach to
>> > the same goal is to let syslogd write directly to tty12.
>> >
>> > I have the following line in my /etc/syslog.conf;
>> >
>> > # Log everything to a free tty.
>> > *.* /dev/tty12
>> >
>> > Be careful to use TAB's and not spaces in syslog.conf.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bj�rn Frantzen
>>
>> Hi Bj�rn,
>>
>> That would work, but then I wouldn't get a cool, colour-coded log that
>> colortail produces. Thanks anyways!
>>
>> --Matt
>
>Not sure about "colortail", but "tail" has a --retry switch that's used
>in combination with the -f switch. It causes tail to retry attempts to
>open the file if it is inaccessible when tail starts or if it becomes
>inaccessible later. You might try this with "colortail". BTW, where
>would I go to get colortail? Yes, everyone, I *know* I can use a
>file-search query engine somewhere, but this might be easier! :-)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave
I've used a similar program called 'colorlogs'that works quite well, and will
allow you to bind color codes to just about any output to the messages file:
http://www.resentment.org/projects/colorlogs/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: No answer from freewwweb (Was Re: connect LINUX to Free ISPs?)
Date: 22 May 2000 13:21:23 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wanted to thank the people who contributed to this thread. I
recently was successful in getting a freewwweb connection to work.
I'm afraid I don't have a complete answer for the question posed below,
except as a guess it sounds like there is a general problem of
the configuration of the modem under Linux.
In article <8g9m4a$r08$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tried to connect to freewwweb using minicom. After I dial the number
>with atdt, there's no sound (completely silent) and it times out after
>about 45 seconds. If I use the telephone to dial, I can hear the correct
>modem squeak sound. If I dial our local public library line-mode telnet
>catalog search, it works fine too. If I boot into windows, I can dial
>into Netzero or Spinway no problem. But I have the same "no answer"
>problem with freewwweb which I don't care for Windows; this is
>WindowsNT. Can anyone help me troubleshoot dialing to freewwweb with
>minicom? If I can get this to work, I can do the PPP later myself.
>Thanks.
>
>Yong Huang
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
--
Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
[EMAIL PROTECTED] , (814)-898-6334
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From: "Robert L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Format a floppy in Linux
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:36:07 GMT
man mke2fs
"George Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi all,
>
> How do you format a floppy in linux?
>
> I would like to format it with a linux filesystem so that I can mount it
> and save some linux files on it. Thanks.
>
> George
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Troost)
Subject: Re: Multiple OS's for software testing
Date: 22 May 2000 17:39:06 GMT
Hi Dennis,
On Mon, 22 May 2000 14:26:04, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I'm writhing code that is intended to run under Win(Any) and eventually
> Linux. My question is if anyone has ever set up a computer that has all
> of the following OS's on them, or if it is a bad idea? DOS 6.x for some
> old legacy code, Win95, Win98, WinNT 4, Win2000, and Linux.
Well, almost. My multi-OS system has DR-DOS 7.02, Win98 (formerly
W95), WinNT 4.0, OS/2 Warp 4.0 and Linux (SuSe 6.4).
> I know that
> is a lot of OS's, but we will use Partition Magic to set up partitions
> and control booting. Thanks for any helpful information.
Partition Magic is a tool I cannot live without ;-))
--
Yours sincerely,
_ ___
/_) / [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
/ \oger /roost [ Member of Team OS/2, HCC OS/2 gg ]
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Crossposted-To:
muc.lists.linux-kernel,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: Intel Providence boot failure with 2.2.14
From: Charles Roten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 May 2000 10:38:40 -0700
Charles Roten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, more than a month ago ...
[many lines deleted]
Thanks for your support. Not.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
(Charles D. Roten) |
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From: "Jaime B. Zamora S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rueda del intellimouse en netscape?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:34:34 -0400
Es posible echarla a andar en netscape 4.72?
Gracias de antemano.
JZ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: whereis info on AnotherLevel/FVWM2? Is it Buggy?
Date: 22 May 2000 17:44:56 GMT
Hi, can anyone point me to some documentation, mailing lists,
or any other useful sources of information to help me configure
my desktop using AnotherLevel/FVWM2?
I'm finding that chages I'm making in the config files aren't
showing up on the screen. For example, the pager geometry setting
won't take. At one point I changed a color to blue and then it
started working. And then, mysteriously, it stopped working as
suddenly as it started.
Also, where are colors defined? IE grey51, etc, etc.
THx!
_____________________________________________________________________
| |
| Pete Bismuti |
| Department of Computer Science |
| Florida State University |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] (850) 644-6835 |
|_____________________________________________________________________|
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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF files
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:51:03 +0000
Golan Derazon wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> With which application can I read & edit .PDF files ?
What about the tools that come with ghostscript - pdf2ps, ps2pdf etc ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Subject: time sychronisation on Linux/NT
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:54:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want to synchronise times on a LAN with some official site.
I want to do this with both NT and Linux.
Right now I am sychronising my NT/98 boxes using AnalogX.
My connection through the net is an NT box.
In the future that will be changed to a linux box ( when I get
broadband ). Can anyone suggest software?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: sendmail question
Date: 22 May 2000 13:59:26 -0400
Miroslav Zubcic writes:
> David C. writes:
>>
>> As someone else already posted, sending an EOF to the command line
>> (usually by typing CTRL-D) is easier and safer.
>
> If `^D' is little strange to people, in new 8.10.X you have `/quit'
> command.
It's not strange to people who are familiar with UNIX - ^D from an
interactive prompt closes stdin, which most stdio-based apps will detect
as an "end of data" condition, causing them to quit.
People who started using PCs in the MS-DOS days might recall typing ^Z
to accomplish the same thing.
People who learned computers on Windows and MacOS systems probably never
learned any such habits.
-- David
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From: Dimitri Komatitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Supermicro PIIIDME with Red Hat 6.2 SMP
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:51:21 -0400
Hi everybody,
I'm considering buying a bunch of new Supermicro PIIIDME
(or PIIIDM3) motherboards, with dual Pentium-III 750 MHz.
I plan to run Red Hat 6.2 SMP , does anyone know if these
new boards are already fully supported and if 6.2 SMP runs
fine on them? I hope this is not a stupid question,
I checked the Supermicro web site, looking for some info
about Linux compatibility, but did not find anything.
thanks
dimitri
--
** Dimitri Komatitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
** Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences **
** Hoffman Building Room 128 - Harvard University **
** 20 Oxford Street Phone: (617) 496-4475 or 495-1172 **
** Cambridge, MA 02138 Fax: (617) 495-0635 **
** USA http://www.seismology.harvard.edu/~komatits **
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT
Date: 22 May 2000 18:01:54 GMT
Thaddeus L. Olczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to synchronise times on a LAN with some official site.
> I want to do this with both NT and Linux.
> Right now I am sychronising my NT/98 boxes using AnalogX.
> My connection through the net is an NT box.
> In the future that will be changed to a linux box ( when I get
> broadband ). Can anyone suggest software?
You can find out everything you need to at:
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/
If your distribution is RedHat based (or if it just uses RPMs), you
can get RPMs of the ntp client at:
http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/ntp.html
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: getting started with Apache?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:05:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neil wrote:
>I'd like to start running a Web server from my PC just for
>fun and to learn. How can I get started doing this?
>
>I know this seems like a rudimentary question but I don't
>really know where to start.
>
>I am running Red Hat 5.2 though I am thinking of going out
>and purchasing the 6.1 CD's or whatever is the latest release.
Just install the apache RPM that comes with RedHat
distributions. It runs fine as installed by rpm, but it
couldn't hurt to review the configuration files to make sure
you like RH's defaults.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Inside, I'm already
at SOBBING!
visi.com
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From: MrJack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE:distro-related supermount? problem
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:07:42 GMT
In article <8gbfvq$qf1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> MrJack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :> MrJack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<chop>
> Peter
>
Thank you very much, Peter. You can really be very helpful, you sometimes
need to water it down for us forever-newbies.
Thanks again
James
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hanson)
Subject: Telephony
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:09:41 GMT
Is there an app available (or shell/perl script) for Linux that will
act as a voicemail/fax machine and still allow someone to dial into it
and access the network?
I have 1 phone line with 2 numbers (distinctive ringing). One is a
voice number and the other is a fax number. If someone calls, I want
it to go into the voice mail system but also recognize the distinctive
ring or a fax tone. I would also like to be able to call it up
remotely with my laptop and enter a special code that will put me into
a ppp connection to my linux box (like a typical dialup to an isp).
TIA
http://www.northernlinks.com/
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From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just a Black screen in Gnome-terminal?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 11:18:11 -0800
> Thank you for your help! I will try it tonight! Another think! I don`t
> want to delete the wrong file! Could you tell me the name of the
> terminal file i need to delete! I currently use Redhat6.
>
> Thank you
>
> Kevin
~/.gnome/Terminal
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Format a floppy in Linux
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:54:01 -0500
George Bell wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> How do you format a floppy in linux?
>
> I would like to format it with a linux filesystem so that I can mount it
> and save some linux files on it. Thanks.
>
> George
Try man fdformat and man mkfs. The first handles low level
formatting and the second creating a file system.
However, it is probably a mistake to make a linux file system
on a floppy. Usually it comes with a vfat file system, and
linux can mount a floppy with such a file system without
trouble. You can then use linux commands such as cp
to mainipulate files on such a floppy. And if you should have
a need to look at the floppy under DOS/Windows, you can do that
too.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Marco BANO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mirroring "root" disk on redhat 6.1
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:57:07 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,
I just wonder a way to have a redundant disk on linux redhat 6.1 of
/root and /
ithat in the case the current one broke, I could boot from the other
one.
I don't want to install logical volume...
I read some news, .. but the problem is .. how to modify the boot sector
?
just how could be possible with dd etc ..
The disks are not the same capacity ..
tahnks in advance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: can't run X as root
Date: 22 May 2000 18:55:42 GMT
Why can't I run graphics from root? I get the message:
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
cannot open displaychild process failed to start guiXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused
by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
whey I try to run gvim as root.
The $DISPLAY variable seems to be the same for root as it is for my personal account.
Anyone know how to fix it?
Thx!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HP DeskJet 930C PhotoREt III or 2400x1200 dpi
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:02:09 GMT
Could anyone tell me of a printer driver for the HP DeskJet 930C
which supports full resolution in color mode? HP says best
resolution is "PhotoREt III or 2400x1200 dpi".
A little net searching makes me believe that the DeskJet 930C
printer can print color in 600x600 dpi mode using the "vanilla"
GhostScript cdj550 driver. I also found that Mike Sweet's GIMP
printer plug-in, http://www.easysw.com/~mike/gimp/print.html,
supports a number of DeskJet printers in their "highest supported
resolution". But the 930C (maybe it's new?) is not in the list
of support DeskJet printers. I also checked out the Common UNIX
Printing System, www.cups.org, and found that they support
generic DeskJets in 600x600 dpi mode. Easy Software Products,
http://www.easysw.com, appears to support the 930C, but doesn't
mention whether the full printer capabilities are supported.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks...
--
kevinc AT doink DOT COM
Change the AT and DOT in my reply-to address to send e-mail.
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Double login required
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:06:13 +0100
I wonder if anyone has seen this (minor) problem?
I log in via a Gnome graphical dialog box to RH 6.1. Every now and then,
after entering the correct username and password, the screen is redrawn
and I have to enter it again, where it almost invariably succeeds.
I've done it often enough to know for certain that I'm not mistyping
anything (that would give me a message, in any case)--it just decides it
wants to do it again. I've gone for a month without seeing this, then it
started happening again all of a sudden. Not all the time (which might
even be preferable!), but just often enough to make me curse each time
it happens.
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