Linux-Misc Digest #560, Volume #26 Sat, 16 Dec 00 10:13:03 EST
Contents:
Gnome Libs Installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help with MS Telnet into Linux (Jeffrey Rose)
Problem mit Image zur�ckspielen (dd) ("Tobias Dresbach")
Re: LCD projector + linux = torture (Jeffrey Rose)
Re: linux upgrade suggestions????? (Jean-David Beyer)
Torvalds Speaks Out on RedHat 7.0 and gcc/kgcc idiocity! [Fwd: Signal (Jeffrey Rose)
Re: How to set /tmp dir for download with Lynx? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Does gunzip have a file size limit ? (Robert Heller)
Re: It's me that needs the upgrade (a bit long) (Robert Heller)
Re: --MARK-- in messages log ("Gero H. Marten")
Read-only filesystem (Peter Mitchell)
Re: best linux soundcard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
help on com, ports, IRQs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome Libs Installation
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 13:01:45 GMT
Hi,
I have a problem when I try to install gnome-libs
when I run the ./configure script.
First, it complained about imlibs and then I installed
that at first and set
export IMLIB_CONFIG=/usr/local/imlib-1.9.8.1/imlib-config
and I passed that phase in ./configure.
Then ./configure complains about ORBIT and I installed it
and did
export ORBit_CONFIG=/usr/local/ORBit-0.5.5/orbit-config
but I still get
checking for orbit-config... no
checking for orbit-idl... no
checking for working ORBit environment... no
configure: error: ORBit not installed or installation problem
checking for orbit-config... no
checking for orbit-idl... no
checking for working ORBit environment... no
configure: error: ORBit not installed or installation problem
Caj Zell
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From: Jeffrey Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with MS Telnet into Linux
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:08:55 +0100
DualIP wrote:
>
> On 16 Dec 2000 03:29:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:30:09 -0000, Rick staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> >>I am telnetting from a Windows ME computer into a linux computer on my
> >>network, how do I use the edit
> >>command to edit a file? I get the file open it what appears to be an
> >>editing window, but it there's no cursor, when I move the arrow keys
> >>around the column number changes but thats it!
> >
> >Get a better Telnet client. Seriously, TELNET.EXE is the worst Telnet
> >client in existence. PuTTY is a pretty nice one, and it's free.
> >TeraTerm is another reasonable choice.
>
> Or check out CRT at
> http://www.vandyke.com/
Woah! $35.00+ ... just because Redmond & Friends wrote a[nother]
terrible *.exe? Surely the FREEWARE approach is in order here?!?!?!
Jeff
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From: "Tobias Dresbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
Subject: Problem mit Image zur�ckspielen (dd)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:08:30 +0100
Hallo,
ich habe ein grosses Problem mit dd:
ein Image von einem NT-Server (~8GB Harddisk aufgeteilt in 2GB Laufwerk c:\
und 6GB Laufwerk d:\) habe ich �ber Netzwerk auf einen Linuxsserver erstellt
(rescue disk gebootet, nfs die Serverplatte gemountet...). Damit die
einzelnen Imagest�cke auf CD passen habe ich dd so aufgerufen:
dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/nfs/ap00.raw bs=512 count=340787200
dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/nfs/ap01.raw bs=512 count=340787200 skip=340787200
dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/nfs/ap02.raw bs=512 count=340787200 skip=681574400
....
alles wunderbar geklappt. Beim zur�ckspielen bin ich dann so vorgegangen:
dd if=/mnt/nfs/ap00.raw of=/dev/hdd bs=512
ok
dd if=/mnt/nfs/ap01.raw of=/dev/hdd bs=512 seek=340787200
und dann kommt der Fehler:
.../dev/hdd w�re keine richtige Angabe oder so
no space left on device
Hat jemand ne Idee was ich falsch mache? Ich vermute vielleicht, dass der
Fehler ist, dass die urspr�ngliche Platte partitioniert war, fdisk -l unter
Linux zeigte /dev/hda1, /dev/hda und /dev/hda5 an, oder? Anderseits kopiert
dd doch sektorweise.
Vielen dank f�r euere Hilfe
tobi
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From: Jeffrey Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: LCD projector + linux = torture
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:19:32 +0100
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 02:17:40 -0800, David Wright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just spent an entire eventing trying to get my external LCD
>projector to work with Linux on my laptop. All works fine in text mode
>but the LCD projector goes blank and complains "no signal" when X
>starts. I have no problems under Windows 2000. I combed the web for a
>solution but, although I have seen the question posed numerous times, I
>have yet to find a working answer (one suggestion was to "plug the
>projector in after X has started" ... sorry, doesn't work). I am very
>frustrated; please chime in if you know the solution to this vexing
>problem!
This is a little weird, as I am in a hurry to do many things when I saw
this post. Look at the mini-HOWTO's at ftp://metalab.unc.edu , maybe
even an odd one like this:
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/howto/mini/Remote-X-Apps
It may give you some insite in how Remote-X-Apps help you understand
'Remote-Hardware-and-X' ?
Otherwise, do you need to do 'function-F5' with the laptop keyboard to
make X happy? I do this on a Toshiba 2515CDS laptop with external
projectors, and it works pretty good. Not sure what your make/model
key-sequence may be, tho.
Jeff
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux upgrade suggestions?????
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:38:36 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Where I work, we see intrusion attempts every day from hacked RH6 boxes
> on dsl lines like yours.
>
> RH7 is more secure by far out of the box but is an utter imploding
> software disaster. Don't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
>
> Instead, do the following:
>
> 1) switch off your DSL box forthwith.
>
> 2) reinstall RH 6.2.
>
> 3) get the bastille linux kit & install it. Take the time to understand
> what you're doing.
You better understand each step and its implications. I am not sure
where you are to get that understanding. I went through their procedure
step-by-step and when I was done, my system was nearly useless. I could
not even dial out on the internet anymore. I had to back everything out.
What it said for each step sounded reasonable enough, but, as I said, I
could not use the system when I was done. Perhaps, since it is a
step-by-step procedure, you could put in one suggested change at a time
and see what happened. The difficulty I had, and did not have the
patience to go through, was that the side-effects of apparently
reasonably reasonable choices are not documented in their installation
procedure, so when you are done, you may give up in frustration, as I
did.
>
> Don't run any of the services you mention unless you have a real
> need.
I would go even further: don't run any services at all unless you have a
real need. I have almost everything commented out in /etc/inetd.conf.
Those few that are enabled are all turned off in /etc/hosts.deny (which
says only ALL:ALL), and turned on only for specific IP addresses in
/etc/hosts.allow. In particular, everything like ftp, telnet, shell,
login, and all the stuff like rsh are either commented out, or not even
in the file at all.
> For instance, I can't see why you're doing DNS since your DSL
> provider is presumably providing it also. You're just offering the world
> a vulnerability. If you're going to administer an anonymous ftp server
> you're going to have to take some pains to set it up in a secure manner,
> though the Bastille kit will help with this i believe (not having done an
> anon one myself). If you're doing something gnutella-like, good luck!
>
> You can use firewall software on the linux machine (ipchains or ipfilter) &
> NAT to set up the internal LAN for your PCs without buying an external
> box though the latter might be worthwhile if your time's worth more than
> the nominal expense.
>
> 4) Once you've got it locked down, switch the DSL box back on.
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From: Jeffrey Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.kernel.general,redhat.config
Subject: Torvalds Speaks Out on RedHat 7.0 and gcc/kgcc idiocity! [Fwd: Signal
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:38:44 +0100
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Nice to see this getting all over USENET, lists, search engines, etc.
Wake up RH ... keep somewhat on the compatibility path of the Open
Source instinct!
*sigh*
Jeff
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>There has a been a thread on the teTeX mailing list the last few days
>about a (RedHat, but probably more general than just their rpms)
>gcc-2.9.6 w/glibc-2.2.x bug. At -O2, it can miscompile
Quite frankly, anybody who uses RedHat 7.0 and their broken compiler for
_anything_ is going to have trouble.
I don't know why RH decided to do their idiotic gcc-2.96 release (it
certainly wasn't approved by any technical gcc people - the gcc people
were upset about it too), and I find it even more surprising that they
apparently KNEW that the compiler they were using was completely broken.
They included another (non-broken) compiler, and called it "kgcc".
"kgcc" stands for "kernel gcc", apparently because (a) they realised
that a miscompiled kernel is even worse than miscompiling some random
user applications and (b) gcc-2.96 is so broken that it requires special
libraries for C++ vtable chunks handling that is different, so the
_working_ gcc can only be used with programs that do not need such
library support. Namely the kernel.
In case it wasn't obvious yet, I consider RedHat-7.0 to be basically
unusable as a development platform, and I hope RH downgrades their
compiler to something that works better RSN. It apparently has problems
compiling stuff like the CVS snapshots of X etc too (and obviously,
anything you compile under gcc-2.96 is not likely to work anywhere else
except with the broken libraries).
Linus
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set /tmp dir for download with Lynx?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:46:08 -0500
GYULAI Mihaly wrote:
>
> When I edit or download a file, a temporary file is being created in
> /tmp dir. Unfortunately I have small free space on / (root) partition.
>
> How can I set this to another dir?
>
> PS. is it really necessary to create such file??
> (I thought that the editing and the download happen only into memory...)
You may want to consider having /tmp in a directory separate from / .
(In principle you should be able to run / in a read-only partition.
While you would probably never do it, you should be able to have / on a
CD-ROM on a CD-ROM drive. Thus, you would not want /tmp (or /var) in the
/ partition anyway.) If you have some spare disk space, I suggest you
make a separate partition and put your /tmp in there and give it more
space. Mine has room for 256 megabytes (I have a lot of disk space
available on this machine), but I rarely use even 5% of it (this is just
a fancy workstation). At the moment, I seem to be using only 64
kilobytes of it. My /var has room for about 489 megabytes and I seem to
be using about 31 megabytes.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does gunzip have a file size limit ?
Date: 16 Dec 2000 08:00:49 true
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:51:48 -0500, wrote :
JB> Robert Chalmers wrote:
JB> >
JB> > I'm trying to gunzip a VERY large file. 3 Gb uncompressed, nearly 400Mb
compressed. And even using zcat -f, it comes back with a
JB> > "file too big" error.
JB> > I thought it might be running out of disk space - but it is only 71% used when
it dies. Which should be plenty !!!
JB> >
JB> > any ideas anyone ?
JB>
JB> The default ulimit for maximum file size may be too small for your
JB> file. On my machine, it is unlimited (except for the space actually
JB> available), but YMMV. See man bash and look for ulimit. Do a ulimit -f
JB> and see what the maximum file size you can create is. You can change
JB> it with the ulimit command. You can also do it in a program. See man 3
JB> ulimit.
On a 32-bit processor (eg Pentium) with Linux 2.2.x or earlier kernels,
there is a limit of 2gig for maximum file size. I *believe* that this
is fixed in the 2.4.x kernels and is not a problem with 64-bit
processors (Alphas, etc.).
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's me that needs the upgrade (a bit long)
Date: 16 Dec 2000 08:00:50 true
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:44:31 GMT, wrote :
"TB> In comp.os.linux.help [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"TB> > Just some examples of : What the hell are they taking about!
"TB>
"TB> > and fileserver for Unix/Win clients
"TB>
"TB> Sorry ... someone else can do the rest.
A file server is a machine with lots of disk space (relatively
speaking), that makes this disk space available to other machines over a
network. The other machines (the 'clients') 'mount' the server's file
space in such a way as to make it appear as if the client has a large
local 'disk'. This is down for several reasons: one really big disk is
often cheaper than a batch of smaller disks (i.e. 1 33gig disk is
cheaper than 4 9 gig disks) or you have several people, each at their
own workstations, who need to share a common set of files.
There are four main 'protocols' for fileservers:
NFS -- Network File System -- invented by Sun Microsystems in
the late '70s or early '80s. This is the standard method
for UNIX (and Linux) systems.
Novel Netware (SP?) -- A system invented by Novel (SP?) for PCs,
originally for MS-DOS, but also used for MS-Windows.
NetBios -- Microsoft's file sharing methodology for MS-Windows
AppleShare -- Apple's file sharing methodology for MacOS.
Note: Linux can speak all four. Most UNIX systems can also speak all
four as well, at least as a server.
Also: for most computers, there is little real difference between a
'server' and 'client' (partitularly with UNIX or Linux). It is possible
to have all of the systems on a LAN play both 'roles' at the same time
-- everybody sharing each other's disks. This works, but has some down
sides and is not really recommended (I can tell you a long story about
this if you are interested).
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From: "Gero H. Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: --MARK-- in messages log
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:44:00 +0100
> I would like to know what puts the -- MARK -- in my /var/log/messages
It's the syslog daemon just telling you that it's still alive. Don't
bother about it.
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"Computers are like air conditioners: They stop working if you open
windows."
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read-only filesystem
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:06:48 GMT
I have a system that I want to be able to switch off without halting.
I imagine that if I can mount the root filesystem read-only this will do
the trick, BUT I would also expect that some things will complain at
having nothing to write to. Presumably I can mount these with a ramdisk.
Questions.
1. How do I make the filesystem stay in read-only mode instead if
switching to read/write after it has been checked?
2. What directories do I need to put on ramdisk besides (presumably)
/var and /tmp.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: best linux soundcard
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:05:03 GMT
an offtopic.
I have a sound card, Yamaha's Xwave QS3000A, for which I am fighting
hard on the net to find the driver for linux. So can somebody tell me
some starting points about how I go about making my own driver from
the sources available or whatever. I cannot return the card, as I
purchased it long back and it is working nicely under windows.
thanks,
santosh
In article <91evsi$a9f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm about to purchase a new soundcard.
> > >
> > > What type of soundcard is ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED to work with
Linux,
> > > including all sorts of SMP kernels?
> >
> > Not being a commercial system, Linux cannot make such guarantees.
> > If a particualr card doesn't work, take it back and exchange
> > it for one that does.
> >
>
> Sound card manufacturers could make guarantees. Or there must be some
> open-source hardware manufacturers.
>
> > The best soundcards, in my experience, have always been the
> > simplest, most generally brain-damaged, like the classic
> > SoundBlaster 16. I currently use a no-name Crystal-based card
> > (PnP works fine with isapnp) and it works perfectly.
> >
>
> You are not saying anything about SMP (dual processors, e.g.)
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: help on com, ports, IRQs?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:31:54 GMT
OK, I have installed Radhat 6.2 on my P-120 (debian's gone because lynx
would not work on it). SO now do appear to have some primitive X
windows stuff that comes up when I type "startx" from the root.
But I have no mouse, and that makes it very hard. I try to configure
the mouse from the command line with "/usr/sbin/mouseconfig" and the
command does work in that a window comes and ask me to choose a mouse
(I have tried a number of names, Microsoft compatible, etc) but I have
a problem with the com nunber: I don't know where any of my hardware
is, i.e., what COM number it is in, or what IRQ; same thing goes for
the modem, when I try to configure it: what COM number is it? THe
comptuer has to tell me what COM number it is, right? How do I make teh
computer tell me what COM number the mouse and modem is in?
Or do I arbitrarily choose what COM number each one gets?
That doesn't seem to be working...
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