Linux-Misc Digest #560, Volume #18               Sun, 10 Jan 99 21:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
  Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: [censored] Can Suck My Hairy Cock ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
  Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
  Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: installing a printer under linux ("Jeremy L. Buchmann")
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Con / Tiki)
  Re: How to HEX DUMP an ascii file? (Victor Wagner)
  Re: restarting apps without rebooting (Victor Wagner)
  Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  uugetty from prompt kills parent and parent's shell (Dick Repasky)
  Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   ! (Jack)
  ZIP Plus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Network config (Peter S. Frouman)

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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:19:41 +1100

oh
and "buddy" was used in the generic sense
as in -  hey buddy got a light?
if ur a halfwit I'll understand
but seeing you think your on par with charles dickens in english language
u have no excuse
and that was way below par for the alleged likes of urself



Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Omni� wrote:
>>
>> sorry buddy
>I'm not your "buddy"
>
>> but I dont pretend to be a PHD in english lit
>
>Can't you pretend you have a high school diploma or at least write at
>the eight grade level?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:02:45 GMT

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
eloquently scribe:
: echo has the capability of saving , yeah?

No. Did he say it did?

: I dont think so
: but I'll try it just the same

Ahhhh...
Never heard of file redirection...
That's what the '>' was for.

Echo echos something to the screen.... yes?
'> <filename>' redirects screen output to <filename>.... yes?

Is the little 1 milliwatt bulb lighting over your head yet, as it dawns on
you what's going on?
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|                                                 |
|     Andrew Halliwell     | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!"          |
|      Finalist in:-       | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|     Computer Science     | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"                   |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [censored] Can Suck My Hairy Cock
Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:53:26 GMT

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Shaygetz <"s m c q u a l e"@i x.n e t 
c o m.c o m> eloquently scribe:
: What, exactly is a "fuckin artic following homo" anyway?
: Is Finland above the "artic" circle? Are the Finnish to
: be considered an "artic" race?

I think this was his way of saying "Articulated Lorry", but he couldn't
spell it.

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|                                                 |
|    Andrew Halliwell      | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
|     Finallist  in:-      |  suck is probably the day they start making     |
|    Computer science      |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:20:41 +1100

I dont have a win dos partition
and I can access my HD
just not my cdrom or FDD
I do have more than one system
I dedicated a p200 with a 2 gig hd
for the installation

thanks just the same


Jeremy Crabtree wrote in message ...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
>>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni�
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>>: thanks anyway
>>: I tried it but it said permission denied
>>: it even says it when i go to dev/hda
>>: or cd /dev/hda
>>
>>This is getting better by the minute...
>>
>>Mind if I just sit back and watch?
>><pulls out a deckchair and a bag of popcorn and relaxes for the fun>
>>
>>cd /dev/hda indeed... *snigger*
>
>Yes, it IS amusing...but, in the interest of being helpful...
>
>mkdir /C
>mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /C
>cd /C
>ls
>
>
>There, you should now have a complete listing of all the files on your
>Win/DOS partition....aw heck...put the following line in /etc/fstab to
>have it mounted when you boot up...
>
>/dev/hda1  /C  vfat   rw,user,auto,unhide 0 0
>
>
>>
>>: I mean what kind of OS dosent allow the owner access to his/her hd??
>>: please tell me
>>
>>Tell me ohe OS that will treat a file (in this case, a device driver) like
a
>>directory?
>
>Well...since you asked...Linux. With ext2 a directory IS a file; its just
>a special file containing pointers to other files.
>
>>: I feel locked out of my own system
>>: lol
>>
>>Yup. I think at this point, a lot of us are having a little giggle at your
>>expense.
>
><giggle...giggle..G>
>
>>
>>: I know my install is OK
>>: coz everything else works fine
>>
>>And you claim to be locked out of your hard disk????
>>You can load and save things. The system starts up, and you can issue
>>commands though, can't you?
>
>He's probably talkuing about his Win/DOS partition. Of course, he's only
>locked out because he refuses to RTF(riendly ;)M
>
>>: its just frustrating thats all
>>: sorry if i sound rude
>>
>>WoW! An apology.
>
>Not much of one...and to Omni...you don't /sound/ rude, you are /BEING/
rude.
>
>>: i thought everyone here could handle a little street lingo
>>: obviously I was wrong
>>
>>It is common in newsgroups to actually ask for help in a POLITE manner.
>
>I second this motion.
>
>>: arnt all you guys ex hippies?
>>
>>It's got nothing to do with 1960s fashion to be courteous to people you
need
>>help from.
>
>Ya know...I've been called a hippy before...and I don't even dress like
one.
>
>
>--
>"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself  the
> difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts that are
> not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
>



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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [Famous Finn] Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:22:46 +1100

yeah
easy when u know how
I bet you got heaps of flack when u were a newbie
and now you cant wait to relay it on to some poor soul


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <77bijl$aio$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni�
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>: echo has the capability of saving , yeah?
>
>No. Did he say it did?
>
>: I dont think so
>: but I'll try it just the same
>
>Ahhhh...
>Never heard of file redirection...
>That's what the '>' was for.
>
>Echo echos something to the screen.... yes?
>'> <filename>' redirects screen output to <filename>.... yes?
>
>Is the little 1 milliwatt bulb lighting over your head yet, as it dawns on
>you what's going on?
>--
>___________________________________________________________________________
___
>|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|
>|     Andrew Halliwell     | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!"
|
>|      Finalist in:-       | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL
MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
>|     Computer Science     | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
|
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w--
M+/++ |
>|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for
hire |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:45:26 GMT

In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
eloquently scribe:
: Michael Fleming wrote:
:> 
: <snip>
:> 
:> (and if he continues to morph, I'll pull out a few good regexps for him -
:> try that in your average Windows newsreader.. ;-))

: What are "regexps"?

Regular expressions. Like A*B being A<any number of characters>B....
Only with lots of bells, trumpets, violins and whistles on top.
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|                                                 |
|     Andrew Halliwell     | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!"          |
|      Finalist in:-       | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|     Computer Science     | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"                   |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
==============================================================================

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From: "Jeremy L. Buchmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing a printer under linux
Date: 11 Jan 1999 01:30:17 GMT

Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have been trying to setup my HP DeskJet 694c to work with Linux. I
: read the printer HOWTO and have also searched the Internet for help.
: Unfortunately, I am still unable to successfully print. Here is a brief
: rundown:
: 1 - check if printer works under dos/windows (yes)
: 2 - made sure kernel will support a printer on the parallel port (yes)
: 3 - run as root typing in "cat somefile > /dev/lp0" and got
: device not found
: 4 - run as root typing in "cat somefile > /dev/lp1" and got the printer
: trying to print but quiting after it feeds in the paper
: 5 - check out lpd by using lpr and lpq
: dpuryear@ka:~# lpr .cshrc
: connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed - Connection refused
: job 'cfA769ka.pow' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed after 1 attempts
: dpuryear@ka:~# lpq
: Host 'ka.pow' - cannot open connection to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - Connection
: refused  
: 6 - make sure my printcap is right -> i installed aps filter and
: selected appropriate hp deskjet filters
: 7 - scratch head
: I'm not sure why I can't even get "cat somefile > /dev/lp1" to work. Any
: ideas?

Dustin,
        AFAIK, 'cat somefile > /dev/lp1' won't work unless you are
root...because only root has write access to any file (or device).  Users
must use lpr to print to a printer.  
Post the relevant sections of /etc/printcap and see if anyone can
troubleshoot it for you.
Beyond that, I can't help.  I tried for weeks to get printing going under
Slackware, but I never could figure out all the printcap/APS or
magicfilter/ghostscript/etc crap.  I eventually said FU to Slackware and
got SuSE and used yast to setup my printer.  Took 60 seconds. 

===================================================================
Jeremy Buchmann       "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
===================================================================

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From: Con / Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:46:16 +1300
Reply-To: Con Tiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mayor Of R'lyeh wrote:

> On 08 Jan 1999 01:57:01 +0100, David Kastrup
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
> all with this bit of wisdom:
>
> >"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson�s
> >> rulings?  Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule
> >> against Microsoft on every count and impose the most severe penalty
> >> he believes possible.  But not to worry, there is a contingency plan
> >> in place regardless the DOJ trial and appeals outcome.  Long live
> >> Microsoft.
> >
> >Well, in *our* country court cases are decided by the law, not by
> >public votes, but of course, in the land that has made lynching
> >popular the procedures might be different.
>
>  Do I understand this right? A German citizen wants to name call based
> on a countriy's past? A [******] GERMAN wants to go down that road?
> Were you absent on the day they went over your country's history, in
> say the 1940's? You might want to go look it up before you start this
> kind of [****].

    Please don't put your foot in your mouth. The USA has done many things
that were not very ....... too. Being racist towards Germans won't help any
countries p.r. one bit either.

 Forget that, it's MS that is being talked about.
 That the majority of the public thinks one way doesn't make it *right*.
 MS spends a vast amount of money on marketing - don't forget that. They
are really buying support. Remember that false grass-roots complain they
were planning?

 Much of what people complain about in MS's marketing strategies can only
be understood by technical people (imo). Now, according to this poll, more
people support MS than own a computer (in the USA). - So do these people
who don't own a computer understand API's, OS's, OEM lisenceing,
Integration & the other issues - I think maybe not.

thanks,
bye.

> "That is not dead which can eternal lie,

>  And with strange aeons even death may die."
> - Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: How to HEX DUMP an ascii file?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 20:28:05 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Robert Lynch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Some time ago I whacked together some stolen bits & pieces and FAQ's to
: get a nice Hexdump (note cap "H"):

: [user@ravel dbug]$ more /usr/bin/Hexdump
[skip]
: [user@ravel dbug]$ more /usr/bin/form
[skip]
Thinkgs can be even simplier. Your  solution requires two files,
but one is enough. There is no difference betwen hexdump format and,
say, awk script, so nothing prevents you from making hexdump format
executable:

$ ls -l /usr/bin/hd
-rwxr-xr-x   1 vitus    bin         141 Jul 12  1998 /usr/bin/hd
$ cat /usr/bin/hd
#!/usr/bin/hexdump -f
# @(#) prints hex dump of arguments much like NU or Volkov
"%6.6_ax " 8/1 "%02x " " " 8/1 "%02x " "\t"
16/1 "%_p" "\n"

Results are essentially the same, but much simplier to move it around
form one linux machine to other and saves one block and one inode on
disk
-- 
========================================================
I have tin news and pine mail...
Victor Wagner @ home       =         [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Subject: Re: restarting apps without rebooting
Date: 10 Jan 1999 20:34:13 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick Senn) writes:

: > I'd like to know wheter someone knows of a site listing how linux apps
: > (apache, sendmail, etc) can be forced to reread their conf files
: > without having to reboot the entire system?
: > I'm a newbie to linux and heard that nt has to get rebooted for every
: > litte tweak.

: Linux very rarely needs to be rebooted for these things - almost all
: changes except installing a new kernel or new hardware can be done
: without rebooting.

And even new hardware can be added without reboot, in case that it can 
be installed when system is
powered on. For example, you can attach new device to external SCSI
chain and then do

echo scsi-add-single-device 0 0 6 0 >/proc/scsi/scsi

(supposing that its first bus of first controller and device has ID 6)

So, rebooting when adding new hardware (if driver is already in kernel
or can be loaded as module) is only nesseccary becouse you have to power
system down to avoid electric shock or damage of hardware.

-- 
========================================================
I have tin news and pine mail...
Victor Wagner @ home       =         [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: does the Diamond SupraExpress 56i Modem do linux?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 01:37:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No it is not.  I just picked up one of these to replace a SupraMax modem
> which is.  It'll work fine.
>
> john
>

I was guessing that it wasn't because when I run the isapnp program my machine
just hangs.  Did you have to do anything special to configure it?

Thanks, Tone

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Repasky)
Subject: uugetty from prompt kills parent and parent's shell
Date: 4 Jan 1999 14:25:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm trying to set up dial in service, and I know that uugetty is
properly run from inittab. But, I want to test it out from the command
line, and I also want to set up one-time-only dial in service.  The
idea is that I'm setting up a linux box for my parents, and when
needed I'd like to have them run uugetty so that I can dial in to do 
maintenance. To avoid their having to sign in as root, I've written a C
wrapper that is suid root to run uugetty after first verifying that
there is not already a uugetty process up and running.  The wrapper
forks uugetty, writes the process number into /etc/run/dialin.pid and
exits.  What happens when I run uugetty directly from the command line
or if I run it using the wrapper (which works perfectly when I have it
fork sleep rather than uugetty), uugetty (or something) kills the
wrapper and the shell from which either uugetty or the wrapper were
run.  

Why does this happen?  How can I avoid it?

Thanks,

Dick

-- 

Remove the underscore from my e-mail address to reply by mail.

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From: Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.models.rc.air,rec.woodworking,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,rec.sport.soccer,rec.travel.europe,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.software.year-2000,alt.prophecies.nostradamus,alt.prophecies.cayce
Subject: Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews  !  !   !
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:59:44 -0500

Let's see, "stupid Idiot" as oppossed to genious idiot or stupid genious.
I'm confused.

WARHORS302 wrote:

> >From: Anonymous <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
> >Date: Sun, Jan 10, 1999 01:45 EST
> >Message-id: <b3a43b2681a24d42af03e39ec77ffc2c@anonymous>
>
> You moron.  If you want to preach or debate go post your religous views
> somewhere else.  This is a newsgroup for Mustangs. Stupid idiot.


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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:53:22 +1300
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ZIP Plus

Can anyone tell me how to set up my ZIP Plus drive (on parallel port)
with RedHat 5.2 on a 2G EIDE HD? I have NT 4.0 on one partition and the
ZIP works fine with the NT SCSI Adapter, but I can't find out how to set
up the drive with Linux.
All suggestions gratefully received. :-)

Peter Rodriguez


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Network config
Date: 11 Jan 1999 02:00:27 GMT

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:11:34 -0500, Cameron Fraser 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hey, i'm would like to know if it is possible to activate the ppp0 interface
>from another user account that does not have root access? ie, i can open the
>control panel but not the network configurator to activate a ppp session with 
>my isp.

I guess you are using Redhat. usernetctl can do this. In the control
panel, set the option to allow users to activate/deactivate interfaces.
After you set this option, I would suggest making usernetctl only
executable by members of a particular group. For example, after you have
run netcfg as root and set the user option,

chown root.trustedgroup /usr/sbin/usernetctl
chmod 4750 /usr/sbin/usernetctl

Of course you will have to create trustedgroup (perhaps ppp) and then add
certain users to it.

>the howtos and faqs all deal with command line workarounds...
>also how do i turn off the screen blanking?

For the console, put something like 'setterm -blank 0' in your shell
startup scripts. For X, run X with the '-s 0' option. 

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
HELLO KITTY gang terrorizes town, family STICKERED to death!

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