Linux-Misc Digest #569, Volume #24               Tue, 23 May 00 11:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Capital Letter conversion ??? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Multiple OS's for software testing (Dennis)
  init rc5.d mechanism (Christoph Kukulies)
  login messages (Tuomas Saloranta)
  Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (2:1)
  Re: TCP/IP programming (Neil Cherry)
  Re: init rc5.d mechanism ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: init rc5.d mechanism (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Slackware or Debian (Scott Bishop)
  Re: Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour (Robert Heller)
  Re: init rc5.d mechanism (Thomas Luzat)
  Re: Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour (mst)
  suse 6.2 /ftp/apache and reboots ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  catopen/catgets on SuSe6.4 fails ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: i need some answers for radio link (Apple Advertising)
  Re: Weaknesses of Red Hat? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: init rc5.d mechanism ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Slackware or Debian ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Multi Domains DNS  ???? (Steve)
  Re: using linux as client (Steve)
  Re: Capital Letter conversion ??? (Steve)
  Re: Mouse problem (Steve)
  Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Someone)
  Re: 4K limit on FIFO node (John Walstra)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Capital Letter conversion ???
Date: 23 May 2000 08:22:40 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 23 May 2000 19:44:09 -0700, Benson Lei 
<<8gdr1t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>I would like to know which command is used to convert a file from upper case
>into lower case.

"man tr".

$ cat uppercasefile | tr [A-Z] [a-z] > lowercasefile

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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From: Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple OS's for software testing
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:28:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you all for your replies.  I spoke to PowerQuest, makers of
Partition Magic.  They suggested only 4 OS's because the Win programs
like to use the primary partitions.  I'm in the process of re-thinking
this grand idea.

VMWare has been considered, but the software runs up to 32 data
acquisition systems via serial ports, which may be a problem for VMWare.
Once I have more hardware I will try it and see.

I will also see if DOSemul will run the DOS compiler and software under
Linux.

If all works out, the system will end up as Win98, WinNT, Win2000,
Linux.  Testing with Win95 may be pointless, so it will be dropped.


Dennis,


Dennis wrote:
> 
> I'm writhing code that is intended to run under Win(Any) and eventually
> Linux.  My question is if anyone has ever set up a computer that has all
> of the following OS's on them, or if it is a bad idea?  DOS 6.x for some
> old legacy code, Win95, Win98, WinNT 4, Win2000, and Linux.  I know that
> is a lot of OS's, but we will use Partition Magic to set up partitions
> and control booting.  Thanks for any helpful information.
> 
> Dennis,

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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: init rc5.d mechanism
Date: 23 May 2000 12:35:20 GMT

Although I dealt with SCO 11 years ago and sometimes with HP-UX
the SYSVisms in Linux are something I can't get acquainted with (working
with BSD systems preferably). Anyway, what is the magic behind these
K05innd, S25netfs (to pick some) in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d.

It must be the brain of a Basic programmer having this worked out.
(the numbering scheme suggests that something would fit between 
K50snmpd and K54pxe).

What do the letters K, S mean?

What is the exact order in which these files are executed?

Are the files in /etc/rc.d/init.d templates only to get copied into
/etc/rc.d/rc[runlevel].d? 

Where is this documented?

I want to install a NIS client under RH 6.1. 
Where do I know it would fit best inbetween ?

Where is NIS installation documented and provided in RH 6.1?


-- 
Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Tuomas Saloranta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: login messages
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:35:23 +0300

I have this problem with Caldera OpenLinux 2.3.

After I log in I get the following messages:


Last login: xxx xxx xx xx:xx:xx xxxx from xxx.xxx.xxx.xx

******************
* host.domain.country *
******************

You have mail.

Welcome to **********

[user@host user]$


What is the file that prints the bold line (the second last line)? The
three rows before "you have mail." is the /etc/motd -file, but in which
file is the text that says "Welcome to ******"??

If you can help me, please contact me by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

T. Saloranta


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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:53:53 +0100

CAguy wrote:
> 
> On 22 May 2000 19:23:13 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Well, with billions of dollars now riding on the success of linux...I
> think it's about time they kicked the kiddies off kernal development,
> and start using a more professional development process.

who is 'they'? 

-Ed
 




> James

-- 
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold weather is
because
of all the fish in the atmosphere?
        -The Hackenthorpe Book Of Lies

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP programming
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:54:04 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 10:30:05 GMT, Sagar A wrote:
>
>Dear All,
>
>I have a device with digital output.Now I need to transfer this data on a 
>TCP/IP network using a microprocessor with ethernet interface.How do I go 
>about it ?

Your really not giving enough details (if we use our imagination we
can extend the idea in all directions). But I would recommend that you
take a look at the Tini by Dallas Semiconductor. It's $50 (US) plus
whatever board interface you decide to use (from a $2 socket where you
wire everthing, $20 boards where you supply regulated power, $30
boards where you supply unregulated power to the top end board for
~$100 with extra serial ports, ADC, and CAN interfaces). The Tini has
at least 1 serial, an ethernet (10BaseT) and a Dallas onewire
interface. It's URL is:

http://www.ibutton.com/TINI/        and
http://www.systronix.com/

You write your programs in Java.

-- 
Linux Home Automation           Neil Cherry             [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/ncherry                         (Text only)
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/lightsey/52           (Graphics)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                         (SourceForge)

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: init rc5.d mechanism
Date: 23 May 2000 12:55:42 GMT

Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Although I dealt with SCO 11 years ago and sometimes with HP-UX
: the SYSVisms in Linux are something I can't get acquainted with (working
: with BSD systems preferably). Anyway, what is the magic behind these
: K05innd, S25netfs (to pick some) in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d.

Yeah, well, join the club for sysv init haters. I think slackware still
uses a bsd style init. I certainly do.

: It must be the brain of a Basic programmer having this worked out.
: (the numbering scheme suggests that something would fit between 
: K50snmpd and K54pxe).

: What do the letters K, S mean?

Uh, S would be start. K kill?

: What is the exact order in which these files are executed?

Alphabetic.

: Are the files in /etc/rc.d/init.d templates only to get copied into
: /etc/rc.d/rc[runlevel].d? 

No. They are linked to. The stuff in the rc dirs is a set of symbolic
links to tehse scripts.

: Where is this documented?

In the man page. 

: I want to install a NIS client under RH 6.1. 
: Where do I know it would fit best inbetween ?

It should come with its own drop-in rc files.

: Where is NIS installation documented and provided in RH 6.1?

I suppose in its manpages. Or in the documentation with the nis suite. 
Why would one need documentation for NIS anyway? Just start the
ypclient after having set a yp domain name and pointed yp.conf at some
server (and check securenets).

These questions are not linux specific. So you should not
expect to look at linux in particular for the answers. Nevertheless,
the NIS-HOWTO strikes me as the obvious starting point.

Peter

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Subject: Re: init rc5.d mechanism
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:23:28 GMT

Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It must be the brain of a Basic programmer having this worked out.
> (the numbering scheme suggests that something would fit between 
> K50snmpd and K54pxe).
> 
> What do the letters K, S mean?

K stands for KILL, and S for START. The numbers are there for controlling
the order of the executions. (network before nfs server for example.)
It works like this:

for x in (S*); do
        ./$x start
done

Vilmos

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From: Scott Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:32:55 -0500

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> I don't understand this.  Why is it a disadvantage to have thousands of
> packages to choose from?  You don't have to install anything but the base
> and required packages: a few tens of megabytes.

Well, my experience has been that to get to that few tens of megabytes,
you have to shuffle through HUNDREDS of packages.  I know some people
are going to make the comment that I didn't configure the installer
correctly, and you're right, I probably didn't.  But when you've got an
installer as arcane as Debian's in conjunction with documentation that
(in my mind) did a very poor job of explaining the nuances of it,
mistakes are going to be made.  As soon as that whole installation
nightmare was over, I just put the Debian CD's off to one side and
reached for a Slackware CD.  At the time, I had better things to do than
keep installing Debian over and over until I got it right.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm being unfair, but seeing as my
experiences with Debian have so far been negative, I'm not especially
eager to go back, especially seeing as I've got a Slack 7.0 machine at
home working to my complete satisfaction.  If you like Debian, more
power to you.  It just was not my cup of tea.

Just my $.02...

--Scott Bishop
WALKER BOLT Manufacturing Co.

(Notice: The opinions stated in this message are not necessarily those
of my employer, nor of any other sane individual for that matter.)

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:38:42 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  In a message on Tue, 23 May 2000 09:18:55 GMT, wrote :

d> I've just published a Flash site for a firm. I require the user to have
d> Flash version 4 or higher, so the index.html contains:
d> 
d> 1) a small Flash applet that uses some special functions of version 4,
d> and if these functions are successful it loads the real site
d> (flash.html).

Are you sure that these 'special functions of version 4' are not
MS-Windows specific functions?  You may have (inadvertently) created a
round-about alternative to the (typical) JavaScript hack to test what
platform the browser is running on.

d> 
d> 2) a refresh meta tag: it waits 10 seconds, and if the flash applet was
d> not successful (i.e. user has version lower than 4) it loads a warning
d> page (noflash.html).
d> 
d> The problem is that this stuff works perfectly using Windows Netscape
d> version but not with the Linux one! It always loads the warning page!
d> Address of the site is http://www.cosmecsrl.com
d> Any hint?!? Thanks!
d> 
d> PS: you will notice that flash.html is a two frame page: one empty.html
d> (really empty) frame and one intro.html. This is to avoid Netscape from
d> showing vertical scroll bar.
d> 
d> 
d> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
d> Before you buy.
d>                                                                                     
                    






                                           
-- 
                                     \/
Robert Heller                        ||InterNet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller  ||            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com              /\FidoNet:    1:321/153

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From: Thomas Luzat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: init rc5.d mechanism
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:41:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 23 May 2000 13:23:28 GMT, Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> It must be the brain of a Basic programmer having this worked out.
>> (the numbering scheme suggests that something would fit between 
>> K50snmpd and K54pxe).
>> 
>> What do the letters K, S mean?
>
>K stands for KILL, and S for START. The numbers are there for controlling
>the order of the executions. (network before nfs server for example.)

Is there some standard for these numbers?


Thanks,
Thomas

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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:57:19 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I've just published a Flash site for a firm. I require the user to have
> Flash version 4 or higher, so the index.html contains:
> 
> 1) a small Flash applet that uses some special functions of version 4,
> and if these functions are successful it loads the real site
> (flash.html).
> 
> 2) a refresh meta tag: it waits 10 seconds, and if the flash applet was
> not successful (i.e. user has version lower than 4) it loads a warning
> page (noflash.html).
> 
> The problem is that this stuff works perfectly using Windows Netscape
> version but not with the Linux one! It always loads the warning page!
> Address of the site is http://www.cosmecsrl.com
> Any hint?!? Thanks!
> 
> PS: you will notice that flash.html is a two frame page: one empty.html
> (really empty) frame and one intro.html. This is to avoid Netscape from
> showing vertical scroll bar.
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


Flash is a closed-source, commercial application. Complain to the
manufacturer.

MST

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: suse 6.2 /ftp/apache and reboots
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:49:08 GMT

I'm running suse 6.2 wuftp and apache.... When ever I ftp a large file
to the server it reboots. I have ftp'd to suse's updates pages and
updated wuftp and proftp. However when ever I use a ftp client
(bulletproof or Ws) The Dirs show up as files and not dirs. But the
server is still rebooting. Any Ideas?


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: catopen/catgets on SuSe6.4 fails
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:51:31 GMT

I have a message catalogue which runs on AIX/SUN/HP. I compile it on
Linux with "getcat .." without error. In my program I call "catopen()"
which returns a valid handle. The "catgets()" call fails and errno is
set to 9 = EBADF. Just before catgets() errno was 0.
What is wrong in my grogram ?
Thanks a lot,
Josef


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Apple Advertising <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i need some answers for radio link
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:06:52 -0500

try http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/AX25-HOWTO.html for information on how
to hook up linux via ham radio network

- Ken

News wrote:

> i need some answers for radio link on linux
> 9600baud & vhf/uhf radio
>
> tux(nospam)@elgratuit.com


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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weaknesses of Red Hat?
Date: 23 May 2000 09:59:28 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) writes:

> On Tue, 23 May 2000 01:57:25 GMT, Christopher Browne
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >It is getting to be a standing _joke_ that you don't want to use a .0
> >or .1 release from Red Hat, because there will likely be fairly serious
> >problems with something or other.
> 
> Is this based on firsthand information or secondhand? It is not _that_
> bad -- based on firsthand information. Minor annoyances, yes, show
> stoppers, nada -- at least for me.

i've been using redhat since 4.1.  i used slackware linux previous to
that.

redhat 5.0 had a few big problems.  however, updated packages were out
within weeks fixing these problems.  this is how i like my software
vendor to work -- i want them to fix problems and distribute these
fixes.  waiting for perfection before shipment isn't.  ymmv.

it is true that the x.2 redhat releases are more stable.  it is the
end of a development cycle.  yes, redhat exposes the user to new
things.  a lot of bugs have been worked out by redhat and their
users.  if you don't want to go on that ride, don't get a redhat x.0
release.  get another distribution or redhat {x-1}.2.

> >It rather appears that they are working hard to push out new releases,
> >and apparently not doing enough testing.
> 
> What are you, a disgruntled stock holder? If you don't like it, don't
> use it. Simple. If everybody did everything to suit your tastes we'd
> probably have only one distro -- the one you like. Then I'd be bitching
> instead. I personally prefer a distro that is frequently updated. One
> has to except some bugs with this approach. If you want something not so
> frequently updated, and long testing cycles, that is your
> prerogative.

there is a certain contingent of slackware fanatics who would suffer no
other heretical distributions to exist.  these people have a
religios conviction and there is not much reasoning with them.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: init rc5.d mechanism
Date: 23 May 2000 14:03:33 GMT

Thomas Luzat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Tue, 23 May 2000 13:23:28 GMT, Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:

:>Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:>> What do the letters K, S mean?
:>
:>K stands for KILL, and S for START. The numbers are there for controlling
:>the order of the executions. (network before nfs server for example.)

: Is there some standard for these numbers?

Yes. The order you want. You're in charge.

(This is a ridiculous question. You can't standardize laws of nature.
They are what they have to be in order to do what they have to do. In
your case you want to run after the network has been initialized. Are
you going to start anything that needs NIS, such as automount? Then
you'd better start it after NIS!).


Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware or Debian
Date: 23 May 2000 14:01:02 GMT

Scott Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: John Hasler wrote:
:> 
:> I don't understand this.  Why is it a disadvantage to have thousands of
:> packages to choose from?  You don't have to install anything but the base
:> and required packages: a few tens of megabytes.

: Well, my experience has been that to get to that few tens of megabytes,
: you have to shuffle through HUNDREDS of packages.  I know some people

Why? If I want something, I grep for it in Contentsi386 with
grep foo Content..., then get the package with "apt-get foo", which
automatically gets and installs all pre-requirements.

(not that I actually do that in one step .. I'm too cautious for that!).

: are going to make the comment that I didn't configure the installer

You're not even using the installer by the sound of things! Are you
maybe talking about dselect instead? Dselect is an unmitigated pain
in the eyes that should be taken and shot .. never used it myself.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Multi Domains DNS  ????
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 15:18:17 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 18:34:03 -0700, Benson Lei wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to know how I can set up the DNS Server, so that I can host
>many domains ( like an ISP ) ???
>
>Thank you for your help.

There's a DNS HOWTO that explains all this, and a NET-3-HOWTO which may also
give you some useful information.  On my system the HOWTOs are in 
/usr/doc/HOWTO and if you ain't got em then:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

  1:42pm  up 5 days, 21:47,  2 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.08, 1.03

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: using linux as client
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 15:18:18 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 10:30:04 GMT, tue wrote:
>Hi ..i've just started to use linux seriously and i learned that i could
>access the server in my uni by using my linux laptop...which i think pretty
>cool .ok ... i can access most of the applications on the server such as
>matlab , netscape , cfx (fluid dynamics software ) ... but i've encountered
>trouble when i want to use patran ( a finite element modeler). i've
>successfully open the application on my screen...but when i want to open a
>file on the server , it just shutdown and gives few error messages , the
>problem is i could not understand what it mean ...so anyone who got
>experience with patran could help me . the error is like below

Don't know anything about that particular package but it may be that it
needs some kind of client-side server.  The best thing to do is to have
a look at one of the clients at uni and see how the app is set up there. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Capital Letter conversion ???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 15:18:19 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 19:44:09 -0700, Benson Lei wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to know which command is used to convert a file from upper case
>into lower case.

Do you mean the filename or the contents of the file.  

If you do mean filename and there is more than one file, then have a look
in the Tips-HOWTO on my distro the HOWTOs are in /usr/doc/HOWTO and if
you don't have them then:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

  1:42pm  up 5 days, 21:47,  2 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.08, 1.03

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mouse problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2000 15:18:20 GMT

On Tue, 23 May 2000 07:37:33 +0200, Peet Grobler wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I've got a Pentium running Mandrake Linux 7.0.  Okay, it was working fine,
>until I moved last weekend, since then I've got this peculiar problem:
>
>Once I run gpm or startx, the keyboard lock up. I cannot use anything. This
>seems to be a mouse problem. I've got a PS/2 style mouse (worked
>previously), on /dev/psaux. /dev/mouse is soflinked to it.
>
>I used to have a serial mouse plugged in as well, though I never used it
>(except with Win95, which I removed).
>Might this be the problem?

You can find out by plugging the other mouse and trying it. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

  1:42pm  up 5 days, 21:47,  2 users,  load average: 1.25, 1.08, 1.03

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From: Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:21:52 -0400

Mr Steuber is an excellent example of my point.  In my message can't you
tell I LIKE linux, I have Linux, I have used Linux for several years.  It
is a great hobby to configure but once it is working what are you going to
use it for?  Why don't any of the free ISPs support Linux?  That would be
great.  How can I spin down my SCSI drives when they are not in use?  I've
been after that for years. Windows is no fun to install and configure, it
just basically works and you cannot really configure it.  That means it
sucks if you want to spin down your SCSI drives because you can't.  With
Linux you can do anything you want, well maybe,  maybe somebody knows how,
maybe not.  Maybe you post questions to boards and get real help, maybe
Dave answers.  I still say "Great toy, bad technology".

David Steuber wrote:

> Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ' Good technologies:
>
> ' Computers.  Sit in front, look at monitor, type and click -
> '
> ' Bad Technologies:
> '
> ' Linux,
>
> Computers don't work without software.  Windows can only loosely be
> defined to work.  But if that is what you want, nobody is going to
> stop you.
>
> If Windows is so great, why do you have to reboot when you change your
> IP address?
>
> --
> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
>
> All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than others.
>         -- Charles Babbage Orwell


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From: John Walstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: 4K limit on FIFO node
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:24:29 -0500


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Actaully, language doesn't matter. What I am doing is having MySQL write it's
update log to the node ("/dev/replicate.log"). Then with a perl script I read
the lines of text off the node and pass them via IO::Sockets to another
database machine. The problem is "/dev/replicate.log" can only buffer 4K,
then it causes MySQL to go into sleep mode. During that time no can update
any fields. I just need to increase the buffer of "/dev/replicate.log" which
I created with "mknod /dev/replicate.log p". It hoping there was a "/proc"
setting.

John

David Efflandt wrote:

> On Mon, 22 May 2000, John Walstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I created a FIFO node with "mknod <filename> p" The size of the buffer
> >if 4K. Is there anyway to increase the size of the buffer, without
> >recompiling the kernel. I'm running into the limit which is forcing my
> >application to sleep.
>
> You don't say what language or why your app goes to sleep, but why don't
> you just unbuffer it.  The only time I even noticed the buffer when using
> a fifo from Perl was if I wrote to it with no app connected yet to receive
> it, but I guess I must have disabled buffering on it or it got flushed on
> a newline.
>
> --
> David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
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Actaully, language doesn't matter. What I am doing is having MySQL write
it's update log to the node ("/dev/replicate.log"). Then with a perl script
I read the lines of text off the node and pass them via IO::Sockets to
another database machine. The problem is "/dev/replicate.log" can only
buffer 4K, then it causes MySQL to go into sleep mode. During that time
no can update any fields. I just need to increase the buffer of "/dev/replicate.log"
which I created with "mknod /dev/replicate.log p". It hoping there was
a "/proc" setting.
<p>John
<p>David Efflandt wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Mon, 22 May 2000, John Walstra 
&lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
<br>>I created a FIFO node with "mknod &lt;filename> p" The size of the
buffer
<br>>if 4K. Is there anyway to increase the size of the buffer, without
<br>>recompiling the kernel. I'm running into the limit which is forcing
my
<br>>application to sleep.
<p>You don't say what language or why your app goes to sleep, but why don't
<br>you just unbuffer it.&nbsp; The only time I even noticed the buffer
when using
<br>a fifo from Perl was if I wrote to it with no app connected yet to
receive
<br>it, but I guess I must have disabled buffering on it or it got flushed
on
<br>a newline.
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