Linux-Misc Digest #624, Volume #24 Sun, 28 May 00 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Freewwweb slow ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to tell which linux I'm in (John Hasler)
misc questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Access a Windows NT printer share? (Rod Smith)
Re: Access a Windows NT printer share? ("JNeuffer")
Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem (Dave Brown)
Re: democracy? (Robert Heininger)
Re: Q: how to set up my sound card?
Re: bootable red hat CD (Dave Brown)
Re: Access a Windows NT printer share? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Linux RedHat 6.1 Dial-In Setup Problem ! (steve)
Re: misc questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: How can I get ksh as a login shell ? (Herb Stein)
Re: Access a Windows NT printer share? ("JNeuffer")
Re: Access a Windows NT printer share? ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Freewwweb slow ?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 19:04:52 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I visit their homepage immediately after my connection, and I found the
> connection speed pretty fast.
> I found if I did not visit their homepage, all internet functions come to a
> crawl. That is my experience here in
> Vancouver, BC Canada.
>
> Sandhitsu R Das wrote:
>
>> I'm getting slow connections with freewwweb. Is there any fine tuning
>> necessary in the startup scripts or something to get a better connection ?
>> I've made their page my homepage and visit it right after ppp is
>> established. What's the kind of data transfer rate with netscape people
>> are getting ?
According to what I recall reading on their site, going to their page first is
supposed to be a requirement. Could be that this (crawling around) is the
method they use to make sure one follows the rules.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to tell which linux I'm in
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 12:59:06 GMT
Tom Fawcett wrote:
> Sorry, I mean whether it is debian/slackware, RH 6.0 or RH 6.1... that
> sort of things
For Debian, look in /etc/debian_version. you shouldn't rely on /etc/issue
since users often change it.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: misc questions
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 13:55:34 GMT
Here are some questions:
o I am a RedHat 6.2 user.I started using linux with RH 5.1.
I have problems not only when I try to install source-form
programs (that have yet to be compiled) but also when
installing .rpms.My problem is about libraries, in fact it
seems that there is always some little incompatibilities
or missing files (but sometimes they are in the right
place!), so especially with programs that don't come bundled
with the distribution cdrom, it seems that RH displacement
of things is not very standard.This happened since RH 5.1.
But it could only be my ignorance.
There is a Library-HOWTO?
o I am currently obliged to use XFree86 at 75 Hz of
Vertical Refresh rate,and resolution 800x600 because
my card is only supported via FBDev.
My monitor is a 15".
I know that 800x600@72Hz is a VESA standard, so it probably shouldn't
be
eye-fatiguing.Is 75 Hz enought?(Please don't answer
simply something like "if you eyes support it...").
o How I use the X window system clipboard to cut/copy/paste
like in win?
o I use things like Netscape or GNU-rpm or the GNUMidnight
Commander, and I notice that the buttons (like the stop
icon of netscape) are very spaced and wide.Is this caused
by a bad configured character definition file (I use
fvwm2, so it is system.fvwm2rc) or something else?
o I am using a partition of about 800 Mb, using about 450 Mb.
I would like to kill unused packages and libraries, what
is better to attack first (is bigger ?)?
o I use consolechars to get big characters (since my display
is always in 800x600), and i choose lat4a-19 in my system.
Where can I find bigger chars?(not in my own system, there
I now where char fonts are!)
o How I set a transparent background for the xclock?
Thanks.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Access a Windows NT printer share?
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 14:32:26 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew Millers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to access a windows NT printer share through linux
> (RH6.2)?
Somebody else posted instructions for accessing FILE shares. Printer
sharing is somewhat different. You do still need to have Red Hat's Samba
packages installed, though. After that, run the printtool utility and
use it to set up a printer. Click the Add button, and printtool asks you
for the printer type. Respond "SMB/Windows 95/NT printer." Printtool
responds with a warning concerning passwords, then asks for identifying
information like the server, printer name, password, etc. Click the
Select button to set up the printer filter -- that is, to tell printtool
what Ghostscript driver to use. When you're done, click the printer
you've defined and run through the three tests on the "Tests" menu.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: "JNeuffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Access a Windows NT printer share?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 14:34:31 GMT
Does this work with HP JetDirect cards in a printer as well?
I haven't seen anyone connect a Linux workstation to a network printer that
uses a JetDirect card.
"Akira Yamanita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Matthew Millers wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to access a windows NT printer share through linux
> > (RH6.2)?
> >
> > Regards
> > Matthew Millers.
>
> You'll need the samba client package to be installed. After that,
> you can either mount the share (smbmount) or transfer files with
> smbclient.
>
> Mounting the share is similar to mounting any other device.
> Create a mount point (ex. /mnt/nt-share): mkdir /mnt/nt-share
> Then mount it: smbmount //server/share /mnt/nt-share
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2000 09:42:06 -0500
In article <1106_959477330@mcfly>, Marty McGowan wrote:
>On 26 May 2000 10:06:59 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) wrote:
>> Since bash and ksh claim "POSIX" compliance, they should work alike.
>> ...
>
> ksh is POSIX compatible.
>
> bash claims it.
Perhaps you can shed some light on a POSIX compliance question. On AIX
and Solaris, I see ksh88, whereas ksh93 has obviously been around for
a while. I've had the impression that perhaps IBM is doing its own
maintenance (modification) of ksh88, as perhaps Sun is also. (Or is
there some "central" development agency that keeps all ports consistent?)
So it seems possible that AIX ksh might not be identical to Sun ksh.
Some things that seem correct (and work in ksh93) do not work for ksh88.
(The only thing that comes to mind is putting a command in PS1, eg.,
`hostname -s`, works in ksh93.) But I understand there are many
extensions in ksh93. I can download ksh93 from the btlabs
archive for Linux, but not for AIX.
So the question (finally) is what is "compliance"? Or rather, which ksh
is compliant. And, isn't complying with POSIX a transitory thing, since
the committee votes a new requirement, thus creating "non-compliance"
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heininger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 14:47:32 GMT
On 28 May 2000 05:37:47 GMT,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Loren Petrich' wrote:
>In article <392eb767$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Francis Van Aeken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
>>The results of these MS breakup polls (consistently 2/3 against) raise some
>>interesting questions about the implementation of democracy (in this case in
>>the USA).
>
> How many such people are familiar with the anti-Microsoft
>litigation and the issues at stake? Here are some possible reasons why
>many people may not be familiar with the issue:
>
>* It goes over their heads
>* They feel that they have better things to do than be interested in this
>issue
* A large portion of the desktop consumer base is not even aware of anything
besides Microsoft. (and Apple) For them : PCs=Windows : Consumers don't think,
they are too busy watching TV. Consumers have herd mentalities and they ride
the latest trends to be hip.
> But among people familiar with computer stuff, there is a big
>contingent that seriously dislikes M$. So one may be more likely to
>dislike M$ if one is familiar with it.
I Agree:
The more I learn about computers is the more I dislike the Redmond Marketing
Machine.
--
Robert Heininger
Where Do You Want To Go Today?
Every time I get asked that question, someone wants to take me for a ride.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Q: how to set up my sound card?
Date: 28 May 2000 14:48:30 GMT
>>'/etc/rc.d/init/sound restart' after every wake up, which repared the
>>sound system, but since the driver is configured into the kernel,
>>/etc/rc.d/init/sound no longer exists.
>
>...this is one of the reasons why you should configure the drivers as
Okay, I did wander into this trap (I tried to fix it despite of not being
broken): I decided to compile the sound support as modules, which promptly
caused all sorts of kernel panics first, and the broken network services
later. In the end I couldn't even make a previously working kernel config
work, so I had to download the newest kernek sources 2.2.5 -> 2.2.15,
a lot changed in the world. Configure from scratch a new kernel, and again
a few times to fix non-working bits'n'pieces. Then download the PCMCIA
package again (since I did not have the old one), and recompile and install
that to, after much troubleshooting, since it kept failing to compile first.
Eventually I managed to get everything working (after half a day of moderate
struggle), with sound support compiled as modules. So I expected to get back
the old trustworthy /etc/rc.d/init/sound script, but it was not there. So
I'm back at sqare one: exactly the same position as this morning, except with
a newer kernel, and much frustration. Still, I don't know how to restart
sound support after my laptop's operation has been suspended and resumed,
except if I use the interactive "sndconfig" command (not really a scriptable
solution).
>-r option. I have a small script hooked in to apmd -r that unloads and
>immediately reloads the sound module, which prevents suspend from messing
I had this module list when the sound worked:
/home/redey# lsmod
Module Size Used by
serial_cs 5232 0 (unused)
3c589_cs 8328 1
ds 6504 2 [serial_cs 3c589_cs]
i82365 29088 2
pcmcia_core 45120 0 [serial_cs 3c589_cs ds i82365]
opl3 11112 0
sb 34484 0
uart401 6128 0 [sb]
sound 58060 0 [opl3 sb uart401]
soundcore 2564 6 [sb sound]
Then I suspended the PC, resumed, then, when the sound stopped working:
/home/redey# lsmod
Module Size Used by
serial_cs 5232 0 (unused)
3c589_cs 8328 1
ds 6504 2 [serial_cs 3c589_cs]
i82365 29088 2
pcmcia_core 45120 0 [serial_cs 3c589_cs ds i82365]
opl3 11112 0
sb 34484 0
uart401 6128 0 [sb]
sound 58060 0 [opl3 sb uart401]
soundcore 2564 6 [sb sound]
(looks very similar to me), but tried the following, nevertheless:
/home/redey# rmmod uart401 sound soundcore
rmmod: uart401 is in use
rmmod: sound is in use
rmmod: soundcore is in use
So can you or anyone perhaps advise?
Paramaters: Dell Lattitude CPi laptop, Mandrake 7.0, kernel 2.2.15
Many thanks,
Akos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: bootable red hat CD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 May 2000 09:52:54 -0500
In article <MXqX4.28227$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Conor Daly wrote:
>Depends on the software you're burning with. If you're using cdrecord under
>
>michaelb wrote in message ...
>>How do I write it as a RAW image???
>>
>>> You have to write the ISO to cd as a RAW image, not as a file
You need a spare 650 MB of storage space. (Although, you could try to
pipe into cdrecord--I tried that once without success.)
Put the cd you want to copy in the cdrom drive;
dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdimage
then, write the image to the cdwriter;
cdrecord -v dev=<whatever> speed=<howfast> cdimage
(Note: this is for "data" cds. Doesn't work with music cds.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Access a Windows NT printer share?
Date: 28 May 2000 14:57:28 GMT
JNeuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Does this work with HP JetDirect cards in a printer as well?
: I haven't seen anyone connect a Linux workstation to a network printer that
: uses a JetDirect card.
I have. All my printers work off JetDirect cards. They're just little
external network cards attached to the printer. It's the usual setup
for a networked printer.
Peter
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From: steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux RedHat 6.1 Dial-In Setup Problem !
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:04:02 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I have been setup a Linux Redhat 6.1 Dialin server (Using
Mgetty+ PPP ) When client(MS Win98) dial in and
connect it , after 10sec the connection will be disconnect auto. !
What's the problem ? Is it my modem problem Pls help me !
Best Regards
Smart Star
file info. as follow :
/etc/ppp/options
auth
-chap
+pap
login
asyncmap 0
:200.200.130.130
debug
modem
crtscts
dns-addr 206.161.62.6
proxyarp
/etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config
/AutoPPP/ - ppp /usr/sbin/pppd file /etc/ppp/options
/etc/inittab
i have been add this line in file /etc/inittab in the last line
S2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS0 -D /dev/ttyS0
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: misc questions
Date: 28 May 2000 15:02:23 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Here are some questions:
: installing .rpms.My problem is about libraries, in fact it
: seems that there is always some little incompatibilities
: or missing files (but sometimes they are in the right
: place!), so especially with programs that don't come bundled
: with the distribution cdrom, it seems that RH displacement
: of things is not very standard.This happened since RH 5.1.
: But it could only be my ignorance.
No, you're correct.
: There is a Library-HOWTO?
None needed. It's a trivial subject. Just get the libraries you need
for utilities compiled elsewhere. Or compile your own against your own
libraries.
: o I am currently obliged to use XFree86 at 75 Hz of
Well, that's hardly hardship! It's 3Hz over the vesa standard.
: Vertical Refresh rate,and resolution 800x600 because
800x600 is tougher luck.
: my card is only supported via FBDev.
You sure?
: eye-fatiguing.Is 75 Hz enought?(Please don't answer
: simply something like "if you eyes support it...").
It's way enough. 65Hz would be enough.
: o How I use the X window system clipboard to cut/copy/paste
: like in win?
With the mouse. What is a clipboard? I have never understood this term.
Is it a windows idea?
: o I am using a partition of about 800 Mb, using about 450 Mb.
: I would like to kill unused packages and libraries, what
: is better to attack first (is bigger ?)?
Avoid removing libc.
: o How I set a transparent background for the xclock?
Can you?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: Re: How can I get ksh as a login shell ?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 15:28:35 GMT
You probably need something like:
EDITOR=vi
in your .profile to support vi-style command line editting.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jose luis fernandez diaz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>peter pilsl wrote:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jose-luis.fdez-
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have a RH 6.1. The default login shell is bash, but I want ksh as a
>> > login shell. I writed the '/etc/passwd' file to get this, but it haven't
>> >
>> > comman-line editing. If I press 'Esc + K' the term shows:
>> >
>> > ^[k
>> >
>> > instead of repeat the last command. How can I solve this problem ?
>> >
>>
>> so your problem is how to edit passwd ?
>>
>> peter
>>
>> --
>> pilsl@
>> goldfisch.at.at
>
>No, the problem is that with a ksh shell I can't edit previous commands with
>the keys 'Esc + k'.
>
--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584
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From: "JNeuffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Access a Windows NT printer share?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 15:40:04 GMT
What I don't understand is how to get a Linux workstation to print to a
JetDirect. Does Samba have to be installed?
Are there any URLs out there for setting something like this up?
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8grc4o$q2s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JNeuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Does this work with HP JetDirect cards in a printer as well?
>
> : I haven't seen anyone connect a Linux workstation to a network printer
that
> : uses a JetDirect card.
>
> I have. All my printers work off JetDirect cards. They're just little
> external network cards attached to the printer. It's the usual setup
> for a networked printer.
>
>
> Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Access a Windows NT printer share?
Date: 28 May 2000 15:46:51 GMT
JNeuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: What I don't understand is how to get a Linux workstation to print to a
: JetDirect. Does Samba have to be installed?
Nothing is required. Just give the network address as the value of the
"rm" field (Remote Machine) in the printcap entry. The printcap
fiel comes with an example remote printer entry:
# typical remote printer entry
#ucbvax|vax|vx|ucbvax line printer:\
# :lp=:rm=ucbvax:sd=/usr/spool/vaxlpd:lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:
and that's quite enough. I might add "rp=raw" to that set. And
also "mx#0" and "sh".
: Are there any URLs out there for setting something like this up?
None needed. Look at the Printing-HOWTO if you feel the need.
Peter
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