Linux-Misc Digest #656, Volume #24               Tue, 30 May 00 18:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Can't view png images (Praedor Tempus)
  Re: democracy? (Praedor Tempus)
  Re: *****Starting Linux***** (Dowe Keller)
  Re: ssh problems (Praedor Tempus)
  Problem with Zip IDE drive ("Cyril Y. Nickonorov")
  Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (Casper H.S. Dik - Network 
Security Engineer)
  Re: [OT?] Newbie: kernel programming qn. (linux consultant)
  themes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: themes (Alex)
  cannot connect to linux server with win 98 (bluto)
  Re: Mail Query (Steve Zinck)
  Re: Mandrake Resolution Woes ("Andrew J Fortune")
  Re: mounting ide-scsi device (PoD)
  Re: themes (bluto)
  Re: Can't view png images (Andreas Kahari)
  Re: editor for Linux and IDE (Duane)
  Fatal LILO error--conflicting versions? (Geoff Stanbury)

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't view png images
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:18:20 -0600

I don't get it.  I have libpng installed, and I have plugger installed
for
use with my Netscape 4.72 yet whenever I try to open a png image on a 
website, I get a message that it is an unknown or unsupported image
type.

What does it take to be able to view png images?  If I check my plugins,
I see that png mimetypes are extant and enabled by plugger 3.2.  

praedor

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:27:01 -0600

Robert J Carter wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         "Andrew N. McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > As I siad before, indivuduals on average are quit intellingent,
> 
> Actually, no. By definition, individuals are on average NOT quite
> intelligent, but of average intelligence.

Yes, but they are ONLY of average intelligence when tested - thus they
actually have to put some thought into answers...actually have to think.

For the most part, people are knee-jerk, biased, ignorant fools who
prefer their
ignorance to actually taking the time and effort needed to overcome
their
ignorance.  They are almost proud of their ignorance.  All too often,
their
decisions are based on emotions of the moment, religious bias (by nature
non-
thinking), habit, etc.  They do NOT focus their brains on something,
certainly
not when it comes to politics or software usage or economic/social
policy.

They make short-sighted decisions and blithely ignore the longer term
(and 
don't care to consider the longer term).  They are not interested in ANY
information that is contrary to their close-held, habit-formed, beliefs
or opinions (again, for the MOST part).  

People are idiots, in general.  Only under specific circumstances and
for 
limited times do they actually act intelligently.

praedor

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: *****Starting Linux*****
Date: 30 May 2000 13:54:01 -0700

On Tue, 30 May 2000 19:30:06 GMT, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>when i log in as either my username or "root" i get the '$' or the '#' 
>depending on how i log in. ('root' or my username), anyway what command do 
>i put in after the '$' or '#' to log in to the linux OS???
>
>
>if someone sends this responce to my e-mail i will eternally be thankfull 
>and luv ya forever......thanks..............
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/

Supprise you just have those '$' and '#''s are called shell prompts.
The shell is waiting for you to type a command at it.

I would suggest that you go down to the corner book store and get
yerself a Linux book.  I would recommend _Running_Linux_.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
                                        --dowe

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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh problems
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:45:00 -0600

FEJF wrote:
> 
> Praedor Tempus
> 
>  wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I have openssh installed on both my desktop and laptop computer.
> > When I try to open a ssh connection to my desktop from my laptop
> > I cannot.  I get a message about connection refused.  When I try
[...]
> is there a firewall which refuses the connection ?

No firewall.  When I have tried this, my laptop and desktop are
connected 
thru a hub to a DSL router.  They are on the same side of the router.
I can telnet, ftp, ping, and scan both computers, I just cannot connect
via ssh in ONE direction (from laptop to desktop - but I CAN connect
from desktop to laptop).

praedor.

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From: "Cyril Y. Nickonorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Zip IDE drive
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:52:40 +0400

Hello,

I've got a problem with my internal IDE Zip drive. When I read data everything
goes ok, but when I write to Zip, files become corrupted (checksums don't
match).
Maybe this is a DMA problem?

I use RH 6.0.

Thanks beforehand,

Cyril.

--
Cyril Y. Nickonorov
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Casper H.S. Dik - Network Security Engineer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: 30 May 2000 20:37:28 GMT

[[ PLEASE DON'T SEND ME EMAIL COPIES OF POSTINGS ]]

Sak Wathanasin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>There's no need to get so sniffy - they're UDMA66 drives and I get
>about 14 MBytes/sec sustained on my G4. LIkewise the Seagate on my
>PIII/500 running Linux. I doubt you'd get that kind of performance on
>an older SunSparc, at least I don't think my SS20 with a Seagate
>Barracuda can manage it (maybe I'll get round to doing some Bonnie
>timings).

Is there anything special you need to do under Linux?  Does it
default to using DMA?  For some reason I get 20MB/s on Solaris 8/Intel
(virtually no CPU use) but only 5MB/s under Linux (since this is the
same as Solaris w/o DMA, I assme I'm missing something)

W/ fast SCSI disks, even older Sun's can do 20MB/s.  This is really
all disk limited, not CPU.  (2% of a 500MHz PIII translates to only
a somewhat bigger fraction of a SuperSPARC)

Casper
--
Expressed in this posting are my opinions.  They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.

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From: linux consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT?] Newbie: kernel programming qn.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:04:22 GMT

/usr/src/linux-xx.xx.xx/Documentation

Nosediver wrote:

> HI all.
>
> GIST:   Where can I ask newbie questions about Linux kernel programming for
>         layer 2?
>
> Pardon me if this is not the right place to ask this question. But since
> there might be some gurus lurking in the list, can one of you please
> redirect me appropriately?
>
> I need to do some device driver selection stuff in Linux for my school
> project. I want to make sure I know what to do before getting in full
> swing into it.
>
> I appreciate all help.
>
> Many thanks,
> -- Su.
>
> ******************************************************************************
> Sujatha Natraj                                                  Singapore
>                 SMTP    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                 HTTP    http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~sujathan [UPDATED!]
> ******************************************************************************


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: themes
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:59:54 GMT

I heard that there is a web site where tons of themes are available for
download. Can anyone please let me know the url of that site.

Thanks a bunch.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: themes
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:24:17 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I heard that there is a web site where tons of themes are available for
> download. Can anyone please let me know the url of that site.
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Would that be

www.themes.org

Hope this is the one you are looking for.

Alex.


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============================================
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http://counter.li.org/index.html

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From: bluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot connect to linux server with win 98
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:33:42 GMT

I am having a brain fart..
just upgraded my hard drive
reinstalled win98 se  now i cannot connect to the server..
I can see the net
I can ping the server
I can even see it in the network neighborhood
when i try to connect
I get an incorrect password error

what am I forgetting??
wasn't the, Enable plain text password in the registry a win 95 thing?
cannot remember..


thanks
bluto


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From: Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail Query
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:35:23 GMT

Chris Medcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Firstly, I want all mail (including root) to be sent to another user.

If you just want to setup a couple mail accounts (like webmaster, 
admin, etc.) you could just make aliases for those addresses to forward 
to the actual user. I don't use sendmail, all I can recommend is check 
out a sendmail mailing list archive (egroups.com, mail-archive.com?) and 
look at /etc/sendmail.cf.

> Secondly, I want to filter this mail so that all mail addressed to one
> particular user (in this case 'bugtraq') is sent to a particular
> folder where I can read it with pine, i.e. /home/chris/mail/bugtraq.

Well, to filter mail into its own mailbox I use procmail.  Here's a 
sample recipe to forward all of BugTraq to its own mailbox: 

:0:
* From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IN.BUGTRAQ

Here's sample .procmailrc & .forward files:

.procmail:

# Set on when debugging
VERBOSE=on
DEFAULT=$HOME/Mailbox
# Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses 
# Mail)
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
# Directory for storing procmail log and rc files
PMDIR=/home/user/.procmail
LOGFILE=/home/user/.procmail/log
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists # The BugTraq recipe would go here.

.forward:

"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #user"


HTH,

Steve
-- 
Steve Zinck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.nerd.halifax.ns.ca

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From: "Andrew J Fortune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake Resolution Woes
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:41:38 +1000

Hi,

The keystrokes Ctl/Alt/NumericPad+ and Ctl/Alt/NumericPad- did not work for
me (I made sure that I had NumLock on, and I also tried it with NumLock
off).

I also played around with manually editing XF86Config, they only got me in
trouble. I didn't really know what I was doing, and kept on getting the
'execve failed for /etc/X11/X' message.

regards,
Andrew

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8h0sgm$hs2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8sOY4.8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Andrew J Fortune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A few days ago, I installed Mandrake Linux v7.0 for the first time. When
the
> > installation had finished, it re-booted me to a graphical login, and
when I
> > logged in, I discovered I was in 640x480 mode.
> >
> > For the past few days, I have been trying in vain to re-set the
resolution
> > to 1024x768. It has been an absolute nightmare, and no matter what I try
to
> > do, it point-blank refuses to go to 1024x768.
> >
>
> You could try a couple of things (get used to these shortcuts)
>
> Ctl/Alt/NumericPad+ and Ctl/Alt/NumericPad-
> These key combos change resolutions higher or lower
>
> Try editing XF86Config by hand (using your favorite editor vi)
> but only if you understand what the comments there say.
> Make a copy of it first, so that you have a fallback in case things go
wrong.
> THis is the same file that is created by the X setup process
> --
> Don't e-mail your response
> Post it right here, but if you must, I'm also at
> annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting ide-scsi device
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 07:43:31 +0930

Flemming Bjerke wrote:
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to mount my ide CD-RW.  X-Roast is able to use it through
> > mkisofs and cdrecord.  When I type mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom it gives
> > me the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device (maybe
> > 'insmod driver'?)
> >
> > I have scsi emulation support enabled under block devices in kernel
> > configuation and ide/atapi cdrom support disable (this is for X-Roast)
> >
> > Under Scsi support I have enabled :
> > SCSI support, SCSI disk, SCSI CD-ROM support, vendor-specific
> > extensions, SCSI generic support.
> >
> > Under filesystems I have sio 9660 support as a module.
> >
> > There was another method I tried and got wrong major or minor number
> >
> > How do i mount my CD-RW.
> >
> > Thank you
> 
> I am about solve similar problems, but I suceeded mounting a CD in the
> CD-RW, after having insmod the module for my SCSI controller. This is
> quite easy: You find the module in: /lib/modules/2.214-5.0/scsi/
> (depending on Your kernel no.). If there is a module corresponding to
> Your SCSI controller, You can just
> insmod  <your controller module>
> Then You can mount Your CD-RW, if it is one which is supported by Linux.
> But, You have to do this each time You boot.  I don't know if You have
> tried this. It must be a way finding out whether You can mount Your
> CD-RW. I have not yet tried to integrate this module in functioning of
> the kernel, but if You can do it by insmod, it should be possible to
> integrate it in the kernel functioning. Alternatively, it You can make a
> small script with insmod and make a call when booting (not very elegant).
> 
> Flemming

I got it to load the needed modules by lsmod after trying to mount the
CD to find what was being loaded.
Then putting an entry in /lib/modules/2.2.15/modules.dep to make one of
these modules depend on one of the others which was not being
automatically loaded.

PoD.

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From: bluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: themes
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:49:25 GMT

> 
> I heard that there is a web site where tons of themes are available for
> download. Can anyone please let me know the url of that site.
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 

www.themes.org

themes for every window manager you would want to use.
Even Enlightenment :)

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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't view png images
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:39:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't get it.  I have libpng installed, and I have plugger installed
> for
> use with my Netscape 4.72 yet whenever I try to open a png image on a
> website, I get a message that it is an unknown or unsupported image
> type.
>
> What does it take to be able to view png images?  If I check my
plugins,
> I see that png mimetypes are extant and enabled by plugger 3.2.
>
> praedor
>

Don't let Plugger have anything to do with PNG images. Netscape can view
them fine without Plugger.

I guess you should remove all PNG entries from your mailcap file
(~/.mailcap), but don't let me fool you because I've never done it (I've
just installed Plugger, been annoyed about that PNG stuff and removed
Plugger because of it since I didn't need it anyway).

/A


--
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# All junk e-mail is reported to the
# appropriate authorities, no exceptions.


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Before you buy.

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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: editor for Linux and IDE
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:11:00 -0700

Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> "Steve D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Davide Sanna - Tiscali S.p.A."
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > is there an X-editor with syntax hilight and other features (like
> > > UltraEdit for windoze ?) available for Linux ? (free, GPL,
> > > OpenSource)...
> > >
> > > Or, how to make syntax-hiliting for gIDE for java sources ? (gIDE =
> > > gnome-IDE)
> > >
> > > Is there an IDE for java (NOT WRITTEN IN JAVA) available for Linux ?
> > > (free,GPL,OpenSource).
> > >
> > > ok, num questions enough...closing connection...
> > >
> > > Thanx!
> 
> > Kwite does this. if you go under the options menu you can select
> > quite a few different syntax highlighting options. It's probably a
> > little easier for you to use than emacs.
> 
> why do you say this?
> 
> emacs has menus and they work like any other menus.  emacs accepts
> cursor (arrow) keys.  emacs can cut and paste with the mouse just any
> other text X program.
> 
> emacs is probably *equally* easy to use.

Warning: Flame bait ahead!

Uhh.. welll.. nahhh! I've been using Unix for a decade (Linux only for a
few months). So I am not new to this stuff. But emacs is practically an
operating system. If you are willing to accept the way it operates, then
it is fine.

But I wanted to customize it (I wanted Alt-X, C, V for cut, copy, and
paste, and I wanted to change the VHDL indenting style). After a couple
of hours, I abandoned the effort and and got nedit. It took me about 15
minutes to get Everything working the way I wanted.

Sure, emacs is very powerful and customizable, if you are willing to put
the effort into learning it. I guess I am one of those guys who just
wanted a text editor that did what I wanted. Power users and full time
code hackers may want to stick to emacs (and likely will), but I find it
a bit much for Joe Casual "I used to use Windoze or a Mac and I just
want to edit a file".

--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Stanbury)
Subject: Fatal LILO error--conflicting versions?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:04:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi.  I originally had LILO installed on the MBR of /dev/hda.  The
version of LILO that I was using came with Slackware 7.0, which is
installed on /dev/hda2 through hda4.  Everything worked fine.  

I'm now trying to use a slightly different version of LILO which is
part of a different linux system that is located on /dev/hdb1.  When I
run LILO from there, I get the following error:

"Fatal: First boot sector is version 20.0.  Expecting version 21.4."

I booted to win95 and ran "fdisk /mbr," but that didn't change the
problem.

/dev/hda's LILO is version 21; /dev/hdb's version is 21.4-3.

Here is my lilo.conf for the /dev/hdb LILO:  (The lilo.conf for
/dev/hda is identical, except the Slackware section is not commented
out.)
# LILO configuration file
# generated by 'liloconfig'
#
# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda
#compact        # faster, but won't work on all systems.
delay = 50
# Normal VGA console
vga = normal
# DOS bootable partition config begins
other = /dev/hda1
  label = dos
  table = /dev/hda
# DOS bootable partition config ends
# Slackware bootable partition config begins
#image = /vmlinuz
#  root = /dev/hda3
#  label = lin
#  read-only 
# Slackware bootable partition config ends
#
# Geo-Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /geolinuz
  root = /dev/hdb1
  label = geo
  read-only
# Geo-Linux bootable partition config ends

Thanks in advance for whatever insight you can provide.

--Geoff

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