Linux-Misc Digest #674, Volume #24 Thu, 1 Jun 00 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process? (George Smiley)
Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email? (Floyd
Davidson)
Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender (billy@--)
Problem Installing Red Hat 6.0 ("Charlie Pritt")
Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem (Geoff Clare)
Re: Problem with Zip IDE drive ("Cyril Y. Nickonorov")
Re: Problem Installing Red Hat 6.0 (Dances With Crows)
Re: Black and white Netscape (Praedor Tempus)
Is identd necessary ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Remove strange -M file? (James Silverton)
Re: Black and white Netscape (Andreas Kretschmer)
Re: X-display problems ("G-admin")
Wrong parttition size (Shahriar Mokhtari-Sharghi)
Windows HLP file for NEWBIES (Brian E Boothe)
libraries philosophy under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: recursively deleting selected files (Lee Doolan)
Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: recursively deleting selected files (James Silverton)
Video Trouble (Boddhisatva Troutwaxer)
Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: recursive mv? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: Is identd necessary ? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: mounting ide-scsi device (Duane)
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From: George Smiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:05:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> If you know the device file of your tty, it's no problem with
> nohup a.out >& /dev/ttyXXX &
>
> If you don't want to do it that way (because you don't want to
> look for the terminal device), you can use a FIFO:
> mkfifo ~/fifo0 creates a FIFO file (called fifo0)
> nohup /full/path/a.out >& ~/fifo0 & starts the process writing
the fifo
> In the terminal you want to see the output of the process, do a
> cat ~/fifo0
>
> Note that the full path of the program you start must be supplied (you
> get "no such command" errors otherwise). If your loop program doesn't
> flush the file buffers periodically, the "cat ~/fifo0" program doesn't
> display anything until you terminate the loop process. (
>
> Bastian
>
>
Hello,
Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate your help.
I think this solution is probably the most suited for my purpose.
I will use it to run future jobs. Just out of curiosity, however, is
it true that the stdout of any program started with
a.out >& /dev/null &
is gone forever? There is no way to go in and do something
like
redirect [process id of a.out] >& /dev/tty0
Something like the renice command to change the priority of
a running process?
Thanks,
George.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender email?
Date: 01 Jun 2000 04:39:24 -0800
billy@-- wrote:
>greetigs;
>
>is there an email client on Linux, that I can setit such that
>email comming from certain email address is written to specific
>local mail folder? I am using pop3 (ISP), and I subscribe to some mailing
>lists that can be very busy, and it will be great if when I download
>new email, mail messages will be written to diffeent local mail fodlers
>based on sender email automatically (of course I have to configure
>it to do so).
>
>if not, at least I'd like to be able to select messages and tell it
>to send those to this mail folder...
>
>currently I use netscape for email, but it does not have such a feature.
There are many email programs that will accomplish what you
desire. Netscape, for example... but what a horrible way to do
mail or read news!
For the *ultimate* in flexibility and ability, take the time and
effort required to learn an configure XEmacs and use the GNUS
package for both reading news and email. You can then throw
email into separate "folders", which all show up as just another
newsgroup. (You can also read usenet news from multiple news
servers, as well, with the same newsgroup from different servers
showing up as separate groups too.)
The various news and email groups can then be prioritized in a
number of ways. They can automatically be listed when there are
unread messages, or only when you manually select a display
"level" that allows a given set of groups to be displayed (most
useful for usenet news, maybe not for email. And the display
can be set up for priorities too (more useful for email, less
for usenet news). For example I have 32 different email groups,
some of which display in very unnoticeable colors that are easy
to ignore for days, while email from family and close friends
causes the "family" or "friends" group to be displayed in red to
make it standout like a sore thumb.
Floyd
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From: billy@--
Subject: Re: mail client for linux to sort incomming messages based on sender
Date: 1 Jun 2000 05:19:39 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark says...
>No doubt this will be ones of many replies, but yes netscape mail _can_
>do this, try looking at the
>"filters" from the "Edit" menu this will do _exactly_ what you are
>talking about.
>
silly me. been using netscape for years and never saw this option. was
looking at preferences only.
thanks, that is excatly what I wanted.
billy.
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From: "Charlie Pritt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem Installing Red Hat 6.0
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:39:57 -0400
I am trying to install Red Hat 6.0 on a 486/66 machine with 8 meg ram.
The installation process seems to be stuck. The screen reads "Loading Second
Stage Ramdisk..." and has been there over night. Please send any advice to
fix the problem (if their is one).
Thanks,
Charlie
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
From: Geoff Clare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash vs. Korn shell Problem
Date: 01 Jun 2000 12:27:01 GMT
Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ksh '93 is--ksh88 was around before there was anything to
>comply to as far as POSIX goes.
Early versions of ksh93 weren't fully POSIX compliant either.
E.g. they did not treat integer constants starting with 0 as octal
in arithmetic expressions. (echo $((010)) should output 8, not 10).
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UniSoft Limited, London, England. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Cyril Y. Nickonorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with Zip IDE drive
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:03:08 +0400
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2000 00:52:40 +0400, Cyril Y. Nickonorov
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >I've got a problem with my internal IDE Zip drive. When I read data everything
> >goes ok, but when I write to Zip, files become corrupted (checksums don't
> >match).
> >Maybe this is a DMA problem?
> >I use RH 6.0.
>
> This is a known problem with kernel 2.2.5's handling of ZIP drives.
> Update your kernel and the problem will go away.
Thanks a lot, I'll try the thing.
Cyril.
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E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Problem Installing Red Hat 6.0
Date: 01 Jun 2000 10:15:49 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:39:57 -0400, Charlie Pritt
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> I am trying to install Red Hat 6.0 on a 486/66 machine with 8 meg ram.
>The installation process seems to be stuck. The screen reads "Loading Second
>Stage Ramdisk..." and has been there over night. Please send any advice to
>fix the problem (if their is one).
Get more RAM. Almost no modern distribution can install or run
comfortably in 8M, and RedHat will never fit! Or try Slack, which will
certainly fit better.
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Black and white Netscape
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:25:51 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Yes both running RH6.2 and both with Netscape 4.72.
> However they have different hardware.
>
> Duncan
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) wrote:
> > In article <8h5da9$mr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >I resently change my XF86Config file so as
> > >to increase the colour depth from 16 to 24.
> > >But in doing so it has made all the icons
Running Mandrake 7.1 with XFree86-3.3.6 I also run into
this. I either run at 16 bit or 32 bit color. 24 bit
color screws things up (I think that acrobat reader also
has a problem with this color depth as well).
Either go back to 16 bit or, if your video card supports
it, 32 bit. Either one will eliminate the problem.
praedor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Is identd necessary ?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:28:52 GMT
Hi,
I have identd as a default in my startup sequence.
Since it is the slowest daemon to load, I would like to know if it is
necessary to load it for normal activity, such as using intenet, using
email and normal things like these.
If not, I will surely exclude it from the startup process.
Thanks.
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove strange -M file?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:50:21 -0400
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Silverton wrote:
> > Have you actually tried rm *.
>
> Okay:
>
> : autolycus[0,361]: rm *
> : zsh: sure you want to delete all the files in /home/autolycus/kimoto [yn]?
>
> > This is what I get under bash:
> >
> > james@hhl:~ > ls -i
> > 1058878 -M 1058870 finger
> > 1058873 Check.kdelnk 1058882 foop
> > 960530 Desktop 1058872 james@hhl:~
> >
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Deletions; there's more than just
> > these>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > james@hhl:~ > rm *
> > rm: invalid option -- M
> > Try `rm --help' for more information.
>
> What I meant to emphasize was that using "*" will not help you delete the
> file "-M" because rm(1) will interpret "-M" as a flag. That's all.
>
> One foolproof way to do that is to call the file by a pathname like "./-M".
> (The "rm -- -M" method won't work on some very old shells found on other
> unixy systems.)
Paul:
Yes, you are right of course; just a misunderstanding of what you meant.
As always when prodded, I went back to the sources. It was interesting
that Unix Power Tools did mention:
rm ./-M
and the man pages for rm did have rm -- -M where "--" is used to
indicate "end of controls".
It is also interesting that the man pages I read threatened that this
useful modification of rm might "not be supported" in the future. Rather
a pity I would have thought!
Jim.
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James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: Andreas Kretschmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Black and white Netscape
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:06:14 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't have this problem on another computer
> I have which is also configured for 24 bit
> colour.
this is a known bug in Netscape. Use 16 or 32 bit color.
Andreas
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From: "G-admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-display problems
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:00:07 -0400
It works now i was able to restore the config file by rlogin into it from
another computer. Thanks
G-admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:39365c47$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The other day I was experimenting with color depth to get a certain
software
> package to work (vmware in full screen mode) , I was using
> XF86Setup to make the changes now when I boot up I it won't display
anything
> I tried cntrl +alt +backspace and cntrl +alt +f1 nothing happens. what can
I
> do log in and restore the display settings? I made a backup of X86config
> file.
>
>
>
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From: Shahriar Mokhtari-Sharghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Wrong parttition size
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:01:15 -0400
I have installed linux on my laptop (contains 12 Gig HD). I managed to have
it dual-boot (windows+linux) using lilo. I however encountered a problem
when
I installed LILO(I guess because system froze in the middle of
installation process), I put the default OS to be windows and whenever
lilo wanted to boot windows it gave me back the lilo's prompt again. The
only way I could get out of the loop was to load linux.
I could get back lilo working however by running ndd and repairing MBR
and installing it on /boot partition. The
only problem now I have is that windows does not show the correct
partition size of drive C. It is 3Gig and windows reports it is 6Gig.
However windows and linux fdisk report correct values? Is it a
serious bug? What can I do to make it allright?
Shahriar
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Subject: Windows HLP file for NEWBIES
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian E Boothe)
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:00:10 GMT
IVE Compiled a Windows 95/98 HLP file on LINUX for Newbies includes alot
of helpfull information for the linux Newbie if ya like to get this HELP
file please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and i can send it to ya
THANKS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: libraries philosophy under linux
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:00:47 GMT
Hi,
I use RedHat 6.2 (but in this subject others are the same) and I
am obliged to use programs born specifically for this ditribution.
I am not only talking of source-distributed software, but also of
.rpm files.
Sometime ago I started creating a "library" of softwares I like and I
put everything in a cdrom.
Now, with my new distro, I cannot use anything of that wares!
Some cannot be installed (because of libraries incompatibility or for
too much a need of a large number of OLD libraries), some can be
installed but they core-dump and don't run.
Now I would like to hear how linuxians behave in such situations;
what I mean is:if I like a program and I change distribution, I have
always to get an updated version of the same program to continue using
it after changing/upgrading distro?What about if the program has been
discontinued and only older versions exists?!
This is a difficult problem for me.
Another point of view is this: I notice that all my linux uses about 450
Mb.OK.But it's not ok that about 300 Mb are ONLY libraries (I don't even
know the functionality of all of them!) and only the rest are good
old linux/unix tools!
In my new RH ditribution I am OBLIGED to install big packages such as
python, gawk, or similar because they are used FOR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE!!
It's absurd that such big packages are the only way to administrate a
system, and I refuse to believe that no smaller utilities exist.
It's not a problem about small Hard Disk (in fact my HD is about 3 Gb),
is't about a problem of principle.
I don't like windows because c:\windows\system is always about 100-200
Mb and the windows folder itself is seldom under about 250 Mb.
This way, linux (especially perhaps RH) will be more and more like
windows, and I don't like this.
To be more synthetic, these are my questions:
o How can I use (old) programs with a new distribution without
installing tons of unuseful libraries and without getting the last
version of the program itself ?
o I want to reduce the HD space used by my ditribution.Is this
possible?Which is the best strategy?
o It is useful to create cdroms full of your favourite programs or it's
a waste of bytes because of aging?
Thanks.Hi,
I use RedHat 6.2 (but in this subject others are the same) and I
am obliged to use programs born specifically for this ditribution.
I am not only talking of source-distributed software, but also of
.rpm files.
Sometime ago I started creating a "library" of softwares I like and I
put everything in a cdrom.
Now, with my new distro, I cannot use anything of that wares!
Some cannot be installed (because of libraries incompatibility or for
too much a need of a large number of OLD libraries), some can be
installed but they core-dump and don't run.
Now I would like to hear how linuxians behave in such situations;
what I mean is:if I like a program and I change distribution, I have
always to get an updated version of the same program to continue using
it after changing/upgrading distro?What about if the program has been
discontinued and only older versions exists?!
This is a difficult problem for me.
Another point of view is this: I notice that all my linux uses about 450
Mb.OK.But it's not ok that about 300 Mb are ONLY libraries (I don't even
know the functionality of all of them!) and only the rest are good
old linux/unix tools!
In my new RH ditribution I am OBLIGED to install big packages such as
python, gawk, or similar because they are used FOR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE!!
It's absurd that such big packages are the only way to administrate a
system, and I refuse to believe that no smaller utilities exist.
It's not a problem about small Hard Disk (in fact my HD is about 3 Gb),
is't about a problem of principle.
I don't like windows because c:\windows\system is always about 100-200
Mb and the windows folder itself is seldom under about 250 Mb.
This way, linux (especially perhaps RH) will be more and more like
windows, and I don't like this.
To be more synthetic, these are my questions:
o How can I use (old) programs with a new distribution without
installing tons of unuseful libraries and without getting the last
version of the program itself ?
o I want to reduce the HD space used by my ditribution.Is this
possible?Which is the best strategy?
o It is useful to create cdroms full of your favourite programs or it's
a waste of bytes because of aging?
Thanks.
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From: Lee Doolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recursively deleting selected files
Date: 01 Jun 2000 08:25:56 -0700
>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew N McGuire <" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:
[. . .]
Andrew> Yikes! From the current working directory:
Andrew> find . -type f -name '*.class' -exec rm {} \;
this is wasteful. try
find . -type f -name '*.class' -print | xargs rm -f
it's much quicker.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:16:32 -0400
From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process?
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On Wed, 31 May 2000 21:04:53 GMT, George Smiley
> : <<8h3upe$pdo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> :>
> :> nohup a.out >& /dev/null &
> :>
> :> I then log out of the workstation and go home. The next day,
>
> In any case, surely the nohup will divert output of the a.out to
> nohup.out? It's the (nonexistent) output of the nohup that you are
> diverting to /dev/null.
No. Nohup checks to see if it's stdout and/or stderr are directed to a
tty if neither is then it does not setup the nohup.out file assuming that
the user has already specified where the output should go.
Art S. Kagel
> : $ nohup a.out >& logfile &
> : (from an xterm, whenever you want it:)
> : $ tail -f logfile
>
> I think (a) you'll be disappointed, that's the output from nohup, not
> from a.out, (b) he's already got the output in nohup.out.
>
> Peter
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recursively deleting selected files
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:17:37 -0400
Lee Doolan wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew N McGuire <" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:
> [. . .]
> Andrew> Yikes! From the current working directory:
>
> Andrew> find . -type f -name '*.class' -exec rm {} \;
>
> this is wasteful. try
>
> find . -type f -name '*.class' -print | xargs rm -f
>
> it's much quicker.
It's even quicker if you have installed locate and use it in the command
instead of "find" in the first version of the command.
--
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Potomac, Maryland.
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Subject: Video Trouble
From: Boddhisatva Troutwaxer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:20:21 -0700
I've just installed Red Hat 6.1 on a Toshiba Satellite 415CS
Laptop with a Chips & Technologies CT65548 video chip with one
meg of memory. When I start X with this configuration I get a
correct set of colors and readable type, but it does not cover my
entire screen. The right 1/5th of the screen is blank. I have
this problem regardless of whether I use a 640x480 or 800x600
screen. Has anyone run into this problem before? (The screen
works properly at 800 X 600 with 256 colors in Windows, so I am
assuming for now that there is nothing wrong with the hardware.)
Thanks in advance for the help!!
T.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:22:45 -0400
From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process?
George Smiley wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
> > If you know the device file of your tty, it's no problem with
> > nohup a.out >& /dev/ttyXXX &
> >
> > If you don't want to do it that way (because you don't want to
> > look for the terminal device), you can use a FIFO:
> > mkfifo ~/fifo0 creates a FIFO file (called fifo0)
> > nohup /full/path/a.out >& ~/fifo0 & starts the process writing
> the fifo
> > In the terminal you want to see the output of the process, do a
> > cat ~/fifo0
> >
> > Note that the full path of the program you start must be supplied (you
> > get "no such command" errors otherwise). If your loop program doesn't
> > flush the file buffers periodically, the "cat ~/fifo0" program doesn't
> > display anything until you terminate the loop process. (
> >
> > Bastian
> >
> >
>
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate your help.
>
> I think this solution is probably the most suited for my purpose.
> I will use it to run future jobs. Just out of curiosity, however, is
> it true that the stdout of any program started with
> a.out >& /dev/null &
>
> is gone forever? There is no way to go in and do something
> like
>
> redirect [process id of a.out] >& /dev/tty0
>
> Something like the renice command to change the priority of
> a running process?
Of course certainly all past output is gone into the bit bucket never to be
seen again. The solution for you, for future output, may be to implement a
signal handler for one of the SIGUSR1 or SIGUSR2 signals that reads a
filename from a known location upon receiving that signal then closes file
descriptors 1 & 2 and reopens them on the specified file. Then when you
come in in the morning you place your tty into the configuration file and do
kill -USR1 <pid> to get the running process to redirect its output itself.
If you make this a library function that every batch job includes with a
setup function to call you will always be able to grab the output and later
send it back to /dev/null by placing that filename in the config file and
sending SIGUSR1 again.
Art S. Kagel
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 11:25:53 -0400
From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: recursive mv?
Another option is the 'tar' trick followed by an 'rm -r *'. The tar trick
is:
tar cf - | (cd /remote/mounted/directory; tar xvf - )
There is also a similar trick with cpio in the man page for that utility
but I like this one.
Art S. Kagel
LTho wrote:
>
> Is there such a thing as a recursive mv, that is mv -r <from> <to> or
> some such.
>
> I recognize that the mv is basically a rename, and to 'move' a whole
> directory tree, normally just the top 'directory' is 'mv'ed.
>
> In this case, I want to transer a whole bunch of stuff via NFS from a
> remote machine to my local machine. Possible? Or do I have to do a
>
> cp -r <from> <to>
> rm -rf <from> <to>
>
> thx
> LTho
>
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is identd necessary ?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:43:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have identd as a default in my startup sequence.
> Since it is the slowest daemon to load, I would like to know if it is
> necessary to load it for normal activity, such as using intenet, using
> email and normal things like these.
> If not, I will surely exclude it from the startup process.
>
> Thanks.
You'll need it to connect to some IRC servers but I'm not sure if
you'll need it for anything else. Some FTP servers check for it
but don't complain when it's not there.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redirecting the stdout of a running process?
Date: 1 Jun 2000 15:35:44 GMT
Art S. Kagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:>
:> Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : On Wed, 31 May 2000 21:04:53 GMT, George Smiley
:> : <<8h3upe$pdo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
:> :>
:> :> nohup a.out >& /dev/null &
:> :>
:> :> I then log out of the workstation and go home. The next day,
:>
:> In any case, surely the nohup will divert output of the a.out to
:> nohup.out? It's the (nonexistent) output of the nohup that you are
:> diverting to /dev/null.
: No. Nohup checks to see if it's stdout and/or stderr are directed to a
: tty if neither is then it does not setup the nohup.out file assuming that
: the user has already specified where the output should go.
Ah. I see. One step too far ... OK. So either redirecting "the output" to a
file or not redirecting the output at all will do fine.
Thanks.
Peter
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting ide-scsi device
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:15:53 -0700
John wrote:
>
> Thank you all for you help but that stillhave not soloved the problem:
>
> I ran cdrecord's scanbus before I did anything. cdrecord found the
> cd-rw and cd (i have 2 devices). I isnmod ide-scsi and sg and tried
> to mount using mount /dev/sg0 /mnt/cdrom. I still get the message not
> a block device. I tried to insmod the scsi_mod and sr_mod but they
> were not found .
Oh, well that is different from the problem most of us thought you were
having. Don't worry about not finding scsi_mod and sr_mod. That is not
important. The correct device for mounting is /dev/scd0, not sg0 (as was
pointed out in another post).
> I do have append="hdc=ide-scsi" right before root=/dev/hda5.
>
> What I don't understand is why cdrecord and find them and use them and
> I can't.
Are you trying to mount a disk before you burn it? No can do. When you
ran "cdrecord -scanbus", you got something like:
# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J�rg Schilling
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R PX-W8432T' '1.05' Removable
CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
The 0,0,0 is the "device" that is used by cdrecord. I don't know how to
use xcdroast, but using the the commands from the command line, to
create a disk of, for example, the /home directory, do (assuming /big is
large enough to hold the image file):
# cd /
# mkisofs -R -l -J -o /big/home.img home
And then burn the disk. Notice the device argument to cdrecord.
# cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 /big/home.img
There are other ways of doing things. If you have a reasonably fast
machine, you don't need to create the image file, and therefore don't
need a big empty chunk of disk space for it. The mkisofs can be piped
directly to cdrecord:
# mkisofs -R -l -J home | cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,0,0 -
Once the disk is burnt, then you can mount it with "mount /dev/scd0
/mnt/cdrom".
--
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