Linux-Misc Digest #687, Volume #24 Fri, 2 Jun 00 14:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: applixware linux-intel upgrade (Gerald Willmann)
Re: environment for "at" and "cron" (larry)
Re: Only one channel in CD Player.... ("Chris Ripp")
Re: 128-bit encryption (Bill Unruh)
Lost LILO need to access hdb5 (Charles)
Re: Corel Linux and Printing (Paul Clay)
Can PC BIOS Values Be Accessed In User Space? (JeffInRR)
Re: Is identd necessary ? Thanks to everyone ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Lost LILO need to access hdb5 (Dances With Crows)
Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2 (D. D. Brierton)
Re: Stupid but annoying problem (Rick Matthews)
Re: Second token ring will not come up (bill davidsen)
Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2 (Bruce Ingalls)
Re: libraries philosophy under linux : Thanks to everyone :) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Telnet failed under Redhat 6.2 ("Karen Jiang")
Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2 (Kai
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
Re: Video Trouble (Boddhisatva Troutwaxer)
Kernel Configuration ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
samba troubles (Geoff Sullivan)
Re: libraries philosophy under linux : Thanks to everyone :) ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-< ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Will GNUtella kills off Yahoo and the likes? (blackbird rises at sun rise)
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: applixware linux-intel upgrade
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:11:15 -0700
I have asked [EMAIL PROTECTED] several times for an answer to my question
below. So far no answer. Perhaps this time?
Gerald
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Gerald Willmann wrote:
> how about answering customer emails
> On Tue, 16 May 2000, Gerald Willmann wrote:
> > hi there: I have been a satisfied user of applixware 4.3 for about 3 years
> > and would like to upgrade to version 5.0. When I fill out the form on your
> > website it tells me I'm not a registered user. I bought 4.3 from Redhat.
> > Hope this is good enough. Or do I have to switch to StarOffice?
> > please let me know. thanks, Gerald
> > PS: do you have a student discount, btw?
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From: larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment for "at" and "cron"
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:12:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) wrote:
> In article <8h687r$89u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is there any way to set the environment for all users and cron? Where
is
> >the default environment for cron set? Does it use the default root
> >environment? It doesn't appear to.
> >
> >We run programs from cron, not scripts. It would be nice to not have
to
> >write wrapper scripts all the time...
> >
> >
> >Larry
> >
>
> Ok, I'm going a little bit off topic here since I only have a Solaris
> box in front of me at the moment...
>
> Citing the cron(1M) man page on this Solaris box, anyway:
>
> The PATH for user cron jobs can be set using PATH= in
> /etc/default/cron. The PATH for root cron jobs can be set
> using SUPATH= in /etc/default/cron. The security implica-
> tions of setting PATH and SUPATH should be carefully con-
>
> /A
>
> --
> # Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
> # All junk e-mail is reported to the
> # appropriate authorities, no exceptions.
>
Thanks for the info, but the PATH variable isn't the problem. I need to
set a bunch of other ones (like Oracle).
Larry
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From: "Chris Ripp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only one channel in CD Player....
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:18:42 -0500
Replace (or just check the connection) on the cable going from the CD into
the sound card.
"NTK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> With Helix Gnome 1.2 and MKD 7.1 beta3, I only hear one channel when I
> play a music CD. But, all EVENT SOUNDS are played on both channels. Is
> this something to do with the actual hardware? But seems to me it is
> more of a software problem. I tried a couple of differenct CD Player,
> but same result. Any ideas?
>
> THanks
>
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: 128-bit encryption
Date: 2 Jun 2000 16:29:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>for PC banking, it requires 128-bit encryption. It doesn't look like there
>is such support for Netscape if you are using linux. Is there any way to
>use PC banking or am I stuck with Windows if I want to do some banking.
>From My Netscape 4.7 on a Mandrake Linux 6.1
This version supports U.S. security with RSA Public Key
Cryptography, MD2, MD5, RC2-CBC, RC4, DES-CBC,
DES-EDE3-CBC .
As far as I recall, US security is 128 bit.
Also go to www.fortify.net.
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From: Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost LILO need to access hdb5
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:30:03 GMT
Hi,
I have recently reformated my hda and lost lilo. How can i access my
linux stored in hdb5. Tried using the CDROM with boot promt couldn't work.
Tried:
boot ro root=/dev/hdb5
Did not want to us PQBOOT.
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Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:59:52 -0700
From: Paul Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux and Printing
Finally figured this out myself by going to the Debian website; it's a
known bug in the Debian LPD printer daemon. The bug is supposed to have
been fixed, but, so far, I'm not having any luck getting the "fix"
installed.
Oh, well. I can always go back to SuSE ...
Paul Clay wrote:
>
> I can't seem to get corel linux to print. All the parport modules seem
> to be loaded but, no luck. E.g., when I try to print from Netscape I
> get the error message "Connection refused, jobs queued, but cannot start
> printer daemon."
>
> What's up?
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From: JeffInRR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can PC BIOS Values Be Accessed In User Space?
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:52:29 GMT
I'm trying to access values from the PC BIOS, specifically the
motherboard identifier. It doesn't appear that this information is
easily accessible. Has anyone done this without having to resort to a
custom kernel module?
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is identd necessary ? Thanks to everyone
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:54:37 GMT
I feared it...
Nevertheless thanks to everyone!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Lost LILO need to access hdb5
Date: 02 Jun 2000 13:00:28 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:30:03 GMT, Charles
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> I have recently reformated my hda and lost lilo. How can i access my
>linux stored in hdb5. Tried using the CDROM with boot promt couldn't work.
>Tried:
>boot ro root=/dev/hdb5
Grab a rescue disk, like Tom's: http://www.toms.net/rb/ and follow the
directions.
Boot with Tom's, mount /dev/hdb5 under /mnt and check to make sure
everything's OK. Re-run LILO, possibly editing /mnt/etc/lilo.conf to make
sure that it's pointing to the right files (/boot/vmlinuz will become
/mnt/boot/vmlinuz , etc.) Or boot Tom's, find your kernel (usually
/boot/vmlinuz), insert a blank floppy, dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0
bs=18k , rdev -R /dev/fd0 /dev/hdb5 , boot from the floppy and your system
should come up, at which point you can re-run LILO and/or fix things with
a larger toolset.
Remember this pain-in-the-butt series of events next time you decide that
formatting /dev/hda using Lose9x tools would be a good idea. And keep a
copy of the MBR somewhere safe so restoring functionality is easier if you
do this again.
>Did not want to us PQBOOT.
? You didn't want to use it, the system had problems using it, or what?
--
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There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. D. Brierton)
Crossposted-To: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:05:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Jun 2000 15:30:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai
=?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. D. Brierton) writes:
>
> > I have (server-start) in my .emacs, and my .bash_profile has
> > EDITOR=emacsclient in it.
>
> Maybe this is the problem? Only the first Emacs instance can
> successfully execute (server-start).
>
> Can you enter `emacsclient' or `emacsclient %f' or something like
> this?
Well I also tried to get this feature of GNOME working with (server-start) and
EDITOR=emacsclient commented out, and I still had no joy.
The default editor is configured in GNOME by a drop-down list, and emacsclient
is not listed as one of the options, and there is no obvious way to type in
something like "emacsclient %f". I'd have thought that given that this current
version of GNOME is really tight that the %f oughtn't to have to be manually
specified.
That said, the file to be editted is not loaded into Emacs by invoking the Edit
command in gmc (the GNOME file manager) even though a new Emacs instance is
started.
It's a minor pain only, but I would like to get this working. I think I'll see
what happens if I select a different default editor, like Xemacs or gxEdit.
Best,
Darren
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D. D. Brierton, Centre for Cognitive Science, University of Edinburgh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Stupid but annoying problem
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Matthews)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:16:57 GMT
Robichaud, Jean-Philippe [BAN:6S33:EXCH] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>This is not a development problem directly but I gives me a hard
>developping on my linux box.
I enjoy Linux development work too, but not nearly as much as you do.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Second token ring will not come up
Date: 2 Jun 2000 16:22:20 GMT
In article <8h6jsu$g2m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Monkey Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I've run into a bit of a problem and need some help. I'm configuring a
| Linux box as a router between two token ring segments. So far, I
| haven't been able to bring up tr1. tr0 work fine. "ifconfig tr0"
| returns all the correct info, "ifconfig tr1" returns info without the
| inet, broadcast, and netmask info since it is in a down state. Issuing
| "ifconfig tr1 <ip> netmask <mask> up" hangs. Using the network
| configuration section from the control-panel also hangs. Also, when I
| reboot after tr1 config hangs, system will not shut down cleanly. The
| boot.log shows that lo0 and tr0 are brought up successfully. tr1 is not
| listed since I did not turn on automatic configuration. The system is
| a desktop pentium running Redhat 6.1. /proc/net/dev shows both tr0 and
| tr1. /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports shows the same as in messages
| so there is no conflict. I am a bit at a loss here. Has anyone come
| across a similar problem or knows how to correct this?
May I assume you are configuring these with isapnp, and the 2nd is at
the "other" address? Or that you used LANAID from floppy and then locked
the config? And that you did whatever Redhat wants in menus to add the
correct lines to boot files (which you would just type in with other
distros)?
It sounds a lot like you may have the two cards both at the "primary"
address and they are proving that you can't share memory locations. I'm
not even sure you can share the IRQ with this driver, but that's another
issue.
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"Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979"(tm)
The hardest test of maturity is knowing the difference between
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From: Bruce Ingalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2
Date: 02 Jun 2000 13:19:50 -0400
In the lastest EMacro beta, which is quite stable, I have
a sh-script called "edit". It automagically detects if emacs
is running, then invokes the client or full emacs, as needed.
If you rename the script as "emacs", then this is the only
command you need to know. You do need to know how to close
each session; I haven't figured out how to trap exit calls yet.
This is tested & working with xemacs. It should be easy to
adapt to gnu emacs; send me any fix, as well as the url for
gnu emacs gnuclient.
As for the gnome menus, you might try poking around in the
~/.gnome/ (?) directory.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: libraries philosophy under linux : Thanks to everyone :)
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:06:08 GMT
I would like to thank anyone who posted me an answer.
I will now adopt the strategy of using preferably only tarballs of
sources.
Nevertheless I will continue to think that 450 Mb are a lot (I think I
will be considered for this choice a dinosaur :( .
RedHat is too big.
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From: "Karen Jiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Telnet failed under Redhat 6.2
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:27:07 GMT
I am upgrading from Redhat 6.1 to 6.2, in hoping it will recognize my sound
card (no luck).
However, now I can not do telnet. I installed inetd RPM, but it still does
not work. Even when I try "telnet localhost", after about 1 minute, it said
"connection closed by foreign host". I am trying to add more service into rc
scripts by using "control-panel", but when I click on runlevel button, it
gave me error message.
Did anybody experience the same problem? Why this happens? Suggestions
appreciated.
p.s. I think it is stupid not to include "inetd" in the workstation
configuration.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
Crossposted-To: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs as Default Editor in Helix GNOME 1.2
Date: 2 Jun 2000 17:28:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. D. Brierton) writes:
> The default editor is configured in GNOME by a drop-down list, and
> emacsclient is not listed as one of the options, and there is no
> obvious way to type in something like "emacsclient %f".
Well, maybe it works to manually modify ~/.gnome/editor? I don't know
what can go in that file, though. But surely replacing the editor
command after `EDITOR=' ought to be possible.
kai
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Subject: Re: Video Trouble
From: Boddhisatva Troutwaxer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:36:43 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, Boddhisatva Troutwaxer
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I've just installed Red Hat 6.1 on a Toshiba Satellite 415CS
>>Laptop with a Chips & Technologies CT65548 video chip with one
>>meg of memory. When I start X with this configuration I get a
>>correct set of colors and readable type, but it does not cover
my
>>entire screen. The right 1/5th of the screen is blank. I have
>>this problem regardless of whether I use a 640x480 or 800x600
>>screen. Has anyone run into this problem before? (The screen
>>works properly at 800 X 600 with 256 colors in Windows, so I am
>>assuming for now that there is nothing wrong with the
hardware.)
>
>I am not familiar with that particular computer or chipset, but
which LCD
>monitor did you select? If the max resolution of your monitor
is 800x600
>did you select the LCD 800x600 monitor.
>
>I have a Sony and I selected LCD 1024x768 monitor because that
is my max
>resolution. It stretches 800x600 or 640x480 modes to fill (or
nearly
>fill) the screen (though fonts in those modes are less than
perfect).
It sounds like you got a menu of monitors, which i didn't get.
What configuration tool are you using?
T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel Configuration
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:32:21 GMT
Hi everyone,
I am playing around with 2.2.14 kernel configurations. I am
using a dell inspiron 3700 laptop, with a pentium III. I was trying
the different processor types, and did not really notice any
differences. I assume I should be using the PPro option. Can someone
confirm this or set me straight? Also, there must be a objective
way to test performance with different options. Can someone point me
to a benchmark test that I could run.
Thanks much,
Dan,
P.S. If Dances with Crows is reading, thanks very much for your response
to "Making a boot floppy". Very helpful.
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From: Geoff Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba troubles
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:56:29 GMT
samba problems.... I never could dance very well anyway!!!
I'm having problems configuring samba on a two computer network.
One runs Linux/Win98 and the other runs Win98. They are connected via a
crossover cable and Ethernet 3c509b cards. (When both run Win98 the network
runs fine!)
The Linux box is penguin (192.168.0.2)
The Win98 box is sunfish (192.168.0.1)
I can run sbmclient and access sunfish OK, however penguin does not show up in
Network Neighborhood on sunfish. I can also ping sunfish (or 192.168.0.1)
successfully, but I cannot open a browser and access it. I get "access denied".
smbmount lets me "in" from Linux, but I cannot do anything from the prompt:
[geoff@penguin geoff]$ smbmount //sunfish/c /mnt
Added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.255.255.255 nmask=255.0.0.0
Server time is Fri Jun 2 12:55:44 2000
Timezone is UTC-4.0
security=share
smb: \> ls
ls: command not found
smb: \> help
help: command not found
smb: \>
Here are the results of nmblookup:
[geoff@penguin geoff]$ nmblookup SUNFISH
Sending queries to 127.255.255.255
name_query failed to find name SUNFISH
[geoff@penguin geoff]$ nmblookup sunfish
Sending queries to 127.255.255.255
name_query failed to find name sunfish
[geoff@penguin geoff]$
Why does this fail? Notice I tried upper and lower case both.
testparm also says my smb.conf file is OK, but there are so many options I
may have confused myself.
One thing I cannot get any information on is what, if anything, to set up on
the Windows side. I've already got TCP/IP and as I said before, the network
does work when both machines are running Win98.
I'm also a little confused about netmasks and gateways. Perhaps I've got these
settings messed up too? And passwords. The Windows box is basically a
one-user computer. Login prompts have been disabled. Could this screw up
samba?
I've been reading the Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 installation directions and
Running Linux and the man pages and it just gets more confusing the more I
read!! Do I have to resort to Samba for Dummies!!????
TIA,
Geoff
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libraries philosophy under linux : Thanks to everyone :)
Date: 2 Jun 2000 17:46:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I would like to thank anyone who posted me an answer.
: I will now adopt the strategy of using preferably only tarballs of
: sources.
: Nevertheless I will continue to think that 450 Mb are a lot (I think I
: will be considered for this choice a dinosaur :( .
: RedHat is too big.
No you're quite right. One can comfortably squeeze what is _needed_
inside about 120MB if you know what you're about (indeed, 30MB for
a functioning X based system is quite feasible, but it won't have
development tools on board).
Redhat comes with lots of stuff and no way to say no to it. SuSE and
Debian have much more available still (debian potato is 2GB of
compressed archives plus bits and pieces from slink), but you can pick
and choose so that a minimum install runs about 40-100MB.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-<
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:53:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Cameron, Gary [WDLN2:2X82:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't get my DSL working
> under Linux. I have successfully set up both Ethernet and dial up
> networking under Linux before, but am a DSL newbie. I have a 2.2.14
> kernel
> (SuSE 6.4) and am running the latest version of the roaring penguin
PPOE
> client, after having no luck with the PPPOE driver suggested by SuSE.
> Jun 1 04:14:25 sheridan pppd[2345]: rcvd [proto=0x7eff] 7d 23 c0 21
Any time you see a proto of "0x7eff", means you have the "sync" option
of pppd turned on, but not the "-s" option of pppoe. It also probably
means that /etc/ppp/options is not empty, which likely means you didn't
read the Roaring Penguin documentation. :-) Tsk, tsk.
Anyway, empty out /etc/ppp/options and all should be well.
--
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From: blackbird rises at sun rise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.d
Subject: Will GNUtella kills off Yahoo and the likes?
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:48:23 GMT
GNUtella going main stream... Will it kills off Yahoo and the likes?
At least it will give all the search engines a major headache, I'd
think.
blackbird.
==================FWD=================
June 01, 2000 10:46
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Distributed, Real-Time Search Engine Prototype
Jump to first matched term
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Opportunities
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search queries in real-time and with dynamic data, was announced today
by key contributors of the Gnutella movement.
Based on Gnutella -- a fully-distributed information-sharing technology
-- InfraSearch.com is the industry's first search infrastructure
developed to showcase how commercial content providers such as portals,
traditional search engines or any commercial web site can push
customized responses to search queries.
Gene Kan, architect of an open-source Unix Gnutella client and founder
of InfraSearch explains, "InfraSearch is poised to revolutionize search.
It makes no sense to throw up a web site and hope that search
crawlers come around to index it."
Full Story:
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earch-&StoryTitle=Linux
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