Linux-Misc Digest #709, Volume #24 Sun, 4 Jun 00 14:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-< ("Chuck Swiger")
Re: What does "Unix-like" mean? (Robert Heller)
ASTRA (NeMons)
buachinga ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[AltView] Dividing Microsoft. (Alt)
Re: Winmodems )Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: windows95 DUN/linux samba/tcp problems? (Wojciech Fraczak)
Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System? (Jim)
Re: ASF Files (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Enlightenment Sound Problems ("Mats")
Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-< (David Steuber)
Re: good printer servers that support lpr? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Need Netscape killer... (Jan Houtsma)
Re: Can't use HTML mail with netscape (Grant Edwards)
Log files analysis ("Frederic LEFETZ")
Re: Can't create multisession with cdrecord and hp writer? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What does "Unix-like" mean? (Christopher Browne)
Re: ASF Files
@@How Can I Split (move) FILE $@$@$@@@
Tux in ASCII ("Gabberatski")
linux and laptop ("Gabberatski")
Re: Something to monitor download speeds ? (Barry Evans)
Re: Log files analysis (Hal Burgiss)
Re: What does "Unix-like" mean? (JEDIDIAH)
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From: "Chuck Swiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-<
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.suse
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:12:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Lew wrote:
>> PPPOE is the money making way (for the ISP) in providing DSL as it requires
>> signing in;
>
> How does that make them money?
The ISP can oversell their facilities.
In other words, they may only provide for 100 simultaneous users but
sign up 200 people for DSL. This is typically done for "home user
accounts" where the ISP does not guarantee 24-7 connectivity.
-Chuck
Chuck 'Sisyphus' Swiger | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Bad cop! No Donut.
------------------------+-------------------+--------------------
I know that you are an optimist if you think I am a pessimist....
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does "Unix-like" mean?
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:16:40 GMT
"Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:18:26 -0400, wrote :
"ES> Why is Linux often referred to as a "Unix-like" operating system, as
"ES> opposed to just a flavor of Unix? Is this some silly copyright problem?
It is a sort of "copyright problem" in a sense. UNIX was 'invented' at
Bell Labs in the mid to late '70s. *Technically* for something to be
called UNIX, it needs to be a direct descendent of the system invented at
Bell Labs. *Most* commercial UNIXes are direct descendents and share some
code with the original. BSD is also a direct descendent -- Berkeley took
the Bell Labs code and made various improvements, some of which were merged
back into the Bell Labs system.
Linux is a completely fresh implementation of an operating system that
has the 'look and feel' of UNIX (with much the same API), but Linux
shares no code with the Bell Labs system and has no direct connection
with the Bell Labs system.
"ES>
"ES> As a user, I find Linux to be a flavor of Unix, no more or less.
"ES>
>From a *user* point of view it is hard to tell the difference between
Linux and UNIX. The differences are more apparent when one looks at
the actual source code involved.
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:16:39 +0200
From: NeMons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ASTRA
Hello,
Internet by means of satellite is possible for Gate(r)s,
apparently there work is done on Linux drivers for the card needed.
Does anyone know more about it?
Nico
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Subject: buachinga
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:23:31 +0200
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From: Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.misc,comp.os.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,soc.culture.netherlands,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.misc
Subject: [AltView] Dividing Microsoft.
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:07:18 +0300
Day.
Perhaps everybody heard about the judgmental decision
about disintegrating of the corporation Microsoft ?
It was the first real victory over the Microsoft.
Through all of 90-n years was a number tries to overcame
this monster. But although the palpable guilt of Microsoft
nobody haven't won any of that cases
(except MIcrosoft of course :).
Why ?
May be because B.G. know how to f..k up the law.
May be because Microsoft have "support" in the government
and in the judgment.
But fact is a fact. Microsoft terrorized all of software industry
during about 15 years.
Why today we have such an award against the Microsoft ?
May be because other one William won't be a president of U.S.A. any more.
Or may be Willis have nothing to lose from the disintegrating of Microsoft ?
Look, Windows in the dead end. Days of windows are counted.
Windows actually have no any preferences against the Free-BSD / BSDI.
Of course there is some moments but, believe me, it's temporary.
BSD+KDE much comfortable as Windows-2000 yet.
And day after day KDE gets better.
I think that the Microsoft could lose a market of server OSes
during the nearest years, at all. And perhaps it will be.
There is a desktop Windows'es, also.
First they told that unite
desktop and server OS'es in Windows-2000, today they say
about Windows for desktops.
Yes, they still hold this marker.
Perspective less of Windows at this market not so obvious as
at the market of server OSes.
But crashing wait for the Microsoft in this market also.
Here we have BeOS, several Linux'es,
in perspective MacOS-X, (there is QNX, NextStep, X-view, OS/2
few Japanese BTRONes, and, and, and ...).
So the ship named "Microsoft" going drown.
Disintegrating of it, could save it.
(Remember disintegrating of AT&T ?)
And the judgmental decision is an exculpation of Will:
"I nothing changed it's a bad-bad judge divide my
supper-bupper-greate-micro-macro corporation.
And only judge is guilty in the deadness and perspective less
of the Windows architecture."
How do you think ?
--Alternative.
[AltViwe-project]
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a word "cybercafe":
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Winmodems )Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux)
Date: 4 Jun 2000 15:57:06 GMT
On Sun, 1 Jun 3900 12:21:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Maybe what you need to do is buy a power supply that is actually rated
> > for the load you put on it. ;-)
>
> Yeah. That's the plan. My motherboard manual says 300W, which is
> what I have now (I give it another two months, it's starting to make
> noise and smell like burning electronics). Problem is, it's damn hard
> to find >250W power supplies that don't come in $250 hot-swap
> redundant 400W convifugrations.
>
> Probably I'll end up just buying a new case (with the aforementioned
> dual hot-swappable 400W supplies) because my current one is completely
> inadequate for the task. Too bad all the ones I'm looking at cost
> $850, which I refuse to pay.
>
> --
> Eric P. McCoy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> non-combatant, n. A dead Quaker.
> - Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
Are you sure you're not blowing (sucking) huge quantities of dust
or
other stuff into your P/S? If not, you should probably get an old
LINEAR
power supply in the 60 to 100 pound (weight) class. These can be
gotten for
next to nothing and offer lots of headroom (over-capacity). Plus you
can
monitor all parameters such as heat-sink temp, voltage and current
to
your heart's content. No need for any part of it to get over the
'slightly warm'
level of heat, so it will consequently last 'forever'.
Vacuo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Little-known fact: Dogs love carrots.
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From: Wojciech Fraczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windows95 DUN/linux samba/tcp problems?
Date: 04 Jun 2000 10:51:44 -0400
I do not see any problem. IP is attached to an interface (modem,
ethernet card, etc...) and not to a machine. The machine with modem
will have two IPs: one for ethernet one for modem.
W.
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Opinions: An Adequate Starter System?
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 18:38:06 +0100
Patrick,
The machine you describe is quite adequate for a linux box. I agree
that it is best to install everything at first until you really know what
you need. Besides its fun to play with some of the stuff you really don't
need. I would highly recommend Mandrake for the beginner and stay
away from Debian. Once you become more experienced you can move
up to Debian but, I would not recommend it for the beginner. I also
could not recommend Corel at this time. Its their first shot at a Linux
distribution and it shows.
Good Luck and welcome to the Linux community.
Jim
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have the opportunity of picking up a mini-tower Pentium 133 machine
> (Intel VX motherboard) with a 250W PS, 3 gig IDE HD, 4 Meg Matrox
> video card, generic sound card, 64 megs 60ns RAM, 56k Winmodem, which
> will be 86'd in favor of an external real 56K modem; 12x CD-ROM
> (bootable), and a 1.44 floppy. It has Windows98 currently installed,
> which will be wiped completely before installing Linux.
>
> I intend to use it as a single user setup, initially, but not as my
> main machine; and later to use it to more fully learn Linux and the
> ins-and-outs of Network Administration. Is it good enough for my
> intentions, and fast enough for running X and graphic interface apps,
> but no games; well, chess, maybe? The Linux hardware sight seems to
> indicate that all the parts are supported, as near as I can tell.
>
> Also, any suggestions on the best Linux distribution for the neophyte?
> That is, no brains required installation, works well enough the first
> time, tweeking and fiddling can wait until later. I am considering
> Debian, but the Stormix distro seems better, install and setup-wise.
> And Corel seems to be setup more as an alternative for the Windows9x
> user looking for something better. It's also based on the Debian
> distro, isn't it?
>
> I've heard good things about Caldera, too. Red Hat, Slackware, and
> Mandrake, I've been advised, are more for experts.
>
> Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> Patrick Bartek
> NoLife Polymath Group
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF Files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:46:06 -0700
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Joseph Cohen wrote:
> how can i read files with the asf extension in linux?
> its the best multimedia format, and very common on the web
how do you know it's the best - how would you even define best - since
it's not usable under linux. Talked to one of the key developers (who sold
his company and soul to MS some time ago) and according to him Real still
has a 70 vs 30 advantage on the web. Let's keep it that way.
Gerald
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From: "Mats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enlightenment Sound Problems
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:56:16 +0100
In article <8hcge4$eem$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly the same problem here. esd Freezes gnome sometimes. If I can
get to the desktop I can use enlightenments menus to start a xterm and
kill esd from there. I have Turtle beach Montego II with aureals drivers.
But I have no problems with sound otherwise. Xmms is working fine for
example. Redhat 6.2 btw.
Mats
> I also experience sound problems using E under Gnome. In fact I have
> narrowed the problem down to the esd module. It will actually crash my
> desktop on occasion. If I have an xterm open I can kill esd and
> everything is fine.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 May 2000 23:39:54 +0100, Chris Medcraft
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Has anyone had any problems with sound using Enlightenment as a
> window
>> >manager? With KDE I have no problems at all - wav files, mpg files
>> >all play perfectly. However, when I switch to E, nothing.
>> >
>> >I've got a Turtle Beach Montego card, with the OSS drivers. I've
>> >tried enabling sound in the Gnome settings and the E settings.
>> >
>> Not sure but do you have esd? I think Enlightenment and Gnome use that
>> for sound.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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Subject: Re: DSL under linux: No Joy :-<
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:00:03 GMT
Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
' In a message on Sun, 4 Jun 2000 03:25:44 GMT, wrote :
'
' JH> Paul Lew wrote:
' JH> > PPPOE is the money making way (for the ISP) in providing DSL as it requires
' JH> > signing in;
' JH>
' JH> How does that make them money?
'
' It allows them to collect accounting information (when you login and
' when you logout). They then charge by the number of hours & minutes you
' are logged in.
Which ISPs are doing this now?
I thought the reason telcos were using PPPoE was because it was
cheaper for them to set up, damn the consumer.
I missed the original post, and don't feel like searching deja for
it. Is the original poster using the Roaring Penguin client? That's
what I am using, and I have had no troubles.
Also, is this a single machine using the DSL connection, or a LAN?
I am using Bell Atlantic DSL. I had to use their 'Green CD' to get my
account set up. Once I did that, it was a matter of seting up
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets, making sure that /etc/ppp/options was empty, and
running the adsl-connect script. The whole afair was more painless
than signing up with that @#$%@# Green CD.
Windows is now gone from my system. I was so pissed off at the setup
procedure that I wiped the partition and used it as extra space for
Linux. I've never looked back.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: good printer servers that support lpr?
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:04:35 GMT
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:04:27 GMT, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am hoping to replace our host-based printer system with print
>servers attached to each printer. I know that the JetDirect print
>servers support LPD, but what about other ones?
We always had good luck with lantronix boxes.
www.lantronix.com
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Th' MIND is the Pizza
at Palace of th' SOUL
visi.com
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From: Jan Houtsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need Netscape killer...
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:05:12 +0200
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>
> i need a simple script that would be monitoring the netscape job before
> it starts thrashing my hard drive. It happened again while I left several
> Nscape windows running (well, open if you will). Even switching to
> a VC with root couldn't help me in time, not even to do a killall; it had
> gotten too far along already.
> BTW Nscape 4.61 I think on Mandrake 6.0 but kernel 2.2.13-22mdk or
> something like that
> Have you written anything like this, I would appreciate any assistance
> --
> jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> Registered linux user no. 164098
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
#!/bin/zsh
for i in $(ps ax| grep "netscape"| grep -v $0| grep -v grep| awk '{
print $1 }'); do
echo "kill -9 $i"
kill -9 $i
done
rm -f $HOME/.netscape/lock
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Can't use HTML mail with netscape
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:08:17 GMT
On 3 Jun 2000 19:13:39 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> For Linux to "grow up" and go beyond a yahoo's play thing as a
>> desktop OS, it must compete with other desktop OS's. With DSL
>> becoming less expensive, the argument of long download time of
>> html email will become moot. Linux advocates
[...]
>If you have somthing you think worth saying to me, have the
>good grace to pare it down to something that I might feel
>inclined to read, for its brevity and succintness. Throw away
>decorations. Don't hide behind them.
Bravo! AFAICT, HTML has become mainly a tool used to hide
two things: 1) lack of content, 2) lack of writing skill.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Didn't I buy a 1951
at Packard from you last March
visi.com in Cairo?
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From: "Frederic LEFETZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.security.misc
Subject: Log files analysis
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:13:57 +0200
For analysing the log files of my remote servers (NT4/5 & linux), I'm
looking for a software (or script) that can filter events and send the end
result by e-mail.
I also would like to know if it's possible to export NT events (that can be
seen with "Event Viewer") to a text file from a shell prompt (i.e.
integration in a script)
Thanks
Frederic LEFETZ
Network Admin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't create multisession with cdrecord and hp writer?
Date: 04 Jun 2000 10:20:27 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Rasku) writes:
> On Wed, 31 May 2000 18:23:21 +0300, Tuomas Launiainen wrote:
>
> >I recently configured my HP CD-Writer Plus 8210i to burn in Linux. For
> >some reason I can't write multisession, though. Why?
> >
> >cdrecord -vv -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 /mnt/cdr/img.iso
> >
> >Prints out:
> .
> .
> .
> >
> >and the burning is succesful.
> >
> >However, when trying to create multisession as follows:
> >cdrecord -vv -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -multi /mnt/cdr/img.iso
> >It prints:
> >
> .
> .
> .
> >
> >and nothing is recorded.
> >
> >Why? Has anyone had similar problems? What can I do?
>
> I think you need to use the -data option for the HP drive.
>
> --
> ...Stephen
I'm coming in late on this thread, but, doesn't it make a difference
how you generate the iso image? Here's what I do (my CD Recorder is
device nr 6 on the SCSI bus):
First session-
mkisofs -R -o iso.raw first_dir
cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=6,0 -multi iso.raw
Later sessions (with all the data in uniquely names subdirectories under
first_dir, usually with the date incorporated into the name):
mkisofs -o iso.raw -R -C `cdrecord -msinfo dev=6,0` -M /dev/scd0 first_dir
Then the same cdrecord command again.
----Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address---
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: What does "Unix-like" mean?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:28:34 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Robert Heller would say:
> "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:18:26 -0400, wrote :
>
>"ES> Why is Linux often referred to as a "Unix-like" operating system, as
>"ES> opposed to just a flavor of Unix? Is this some silly copyright problem?
>
>It is a sort of "copyright problem" in a sense. UNIX was 'invented' at
>Bell Labs in the mid to late '70s. *Technically* for something to be
>called UNIX, it needs to be a direct descendent of the system invented at
>Bell Labs. *Most* commercial UNIXes are direct descendents and share some
>code with the original. BSD is also a direct descendent -- Berkeley took
>the Bell Labs code and made various improvements, some of which were merged
>back into the Bell Labs system.
Actually, there's _one_ more option; if a given system went through
the Unix95 certification process, _PASSED_, and the vendor paid the
royalty bill, then the system would be deemed a UNIX.
This had the perverse result that IBM's OS/390 was _truly_ a UNIX, whilst
the various BSDs, which by all rights, have better claims, _cannot_ be
called UNIX.
The fact that such perverse results exist is a good indication that
playing lawyer and trying to be _real_ precise about it is a Very Silly
Thing to do.
>Linux is a completely fresh implementation of an operating system that
>has the 'look and feel' of UNIX (with much the same API), but Linux
>shares no code with the Bell Labs system and has no direct connection
>with the Bell Labs system.
I would have to contend that the BSDs also have no direct connection,
as part of the point of the AT&T vs UCB lawsuit was that BSD 4.4 Lite
was an independent implementation, not containing AT&T-owned code.
Mind you, that _is_ "playing lawyer."
>"ES>
>"ES> As a user, I find Linux to be a flavor of Unix, no more or less.
>
>From a *user* point of view it is hard to tell the difference between
>Linux and UNIX. The differences are more apparent when one looks at
>the actual source code involved.
There are somewhat significant variations between the major flavors,
namely:
Solaris
AIX
HP/UX
SCO OpenServer
Whatever-Compaq-Calls-it-This-Year
IRIX
Linux is close enough to the intersection of the characters of these to
certainly be characterized as "rather like UNIX."
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/unix.html>
"Sponges grow in the ocean. I wonder how much deeper the ocean would
be if that didn't happen." -- Steven Wright
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF Files
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:30:15 GMT
thats great but i have a file in asf that i need to open!
John Hong wrote:
>
>
> Joseph Cohen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : how can i read files with the asf extension in linux?
> : its the best multimedia format, and very common on the web
>
> No it's not. The best multimedia format is the multimedia format
> that everyone can read and that is MPEG.
>
--
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: @@How Can I Split (move) FILE $@$@$@@@
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:30:27 GMT
I have 2 OS's in my computer.
One is WIN98SE, other one is REDHAT 6.2
When I downloaded A LIUNX file at WIN98SE,
But that file is bigger then floppy disk.
So. How can I move that file into linux??
Please help me.
=======jinihani=======
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From: "Gabberatski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tux in ASCII
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:41:35 +0200
I am searching for an ASCII art of TUX, or something that's linux related
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From: "Gabberatski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux and laptop
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:44:13 +0200
does anyone now how that linux can recognize my built-in modem from my
laptop (packard bell P2-400 easy mate)
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From: Barry Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Something to monitor download speeds ?
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:42:51 GMT
ntop might fill that need to monitor network speeds & throughput
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.security,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: Log files analysis
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:43:07 GMT
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:13:57 +0200, Frederic LEFETZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>For analysing the log files of my remote servers (NT4/5 & linux), I'm
>looking for a software (or script) that can filter events and send the
>end result by e-mail.
www.psionic.com and get 'logcheck'. Very nifty shell script, etc that
uses regexp, and mails the results.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: What does "Unix-like" mean?
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:41:46 GMT
On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 14:29:29 GMT, Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[Posted and mailed]
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[deletia]
>There's also the issue of history. Linux doesn't share source code with
>Unix, and wasn't derived from the same source code with changes (as, for
>instance, the free BSDs developed).
>
>> As a user, I find Linux to be a flavor of Unix, no more or less.
>
>Thinking of it this way won't lead you far astray as an end user. If you
>dig into kernel programming, though, you'll find differences. If you
>refer to Linux as Unix without qualification, you could end up confusing
>people or appearing ignorant, depending upon your audience.
This can happen quite easily regardless of the validity
of the particular point of view you happen to be expressing.
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