Linux-Misc Digest #744, Volume #24 Wed, 7 Jun 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to delete a directory that refuses to die? (Kari Pahula)
Re: Command rule mp3 "deamon" project (Matthew King)
Java SDK 1.2.2 - Linux (Bryan Galvin)
Re: Command rule mp3 "deamon" project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What web content creation tools are available in linux? (Julie)
LILO Boot Disk ("news.socket.net")
Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction (Marcin Tustin)
Re: Building an install floppy... (Dave Brown)
Re: Sound with Inspiron 3800? ("Gerard Milmeister")
X11 on Sony VAIO PCG-XG18/19 - config file... (Vladimir M. Bogak)
Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs (Jonathan M Hill)
Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs (JEDIDIAH)
How can I find which machine a binary was compiled for? (jd)
Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany (C.
Hilts)
Re: HELP, New user ("Crashed")
Re: Which printing alternative is better? (Robert Heller)
Re: Bad Blocks. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mounting proc filesystem dup2: bad file descriptor? (ION)
Re: What web content creation tools are available in linux? (Dances With Crows)
Re: change ctime (John Hunter)
Is there a free CVS mirroring tool I can use? (David Steuber)
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From: Kari Pahula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to delete a directory that refuses to die?
Date: 7 Jun 2000 22:17:01 GMT
Nancy J. Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I am trying to delete a directory that is taking up a lot of space on my
>shared Linux machine (Redhat 6.1), but I am not finding any success. I am
>logged on as root, of course, and this is what happens:
Try:
# chattr -i preamble.mk
# chattr -i srt_super.mk
and then rm. See the man page.
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From: Matthew King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command rule mp3 "deamon" project
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux.overig,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:17:39 GMT
Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to write a program (possibly even a deamon) like XMMS, but
> entirely command-rule and non-x, based on mpg123 code.
> Eventually, it has to be useful like a stereo, but like a radio server
> too, and it has to run with esd
Always been at the back of my mind to do something like this eventually
Mind you it's always been at the back of my mind to seperate everything
that's GUI only into GUI/console counterparts
Not so hot on the coding unfortunately, but perhaps in all the other areas
you mentioned and the do***tion you didn't mention. :-)
Matthew
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From: Bryan Galvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Java SDK 1.2.2 - Linux
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:20:31 +0100
All,
I downloaded the Java 1.2.2 SDK for Linux from Sun.
I downloaded the large 21 MB file using the FTP utility on a Win 98 PC.
When the download was complete I transferred the file to my 486 PC upon
which I have a Slackware LINUX distribution installed.
Following the installation instructions from the website I attempted to
decompress the 21 MB file.
However, the following error is returned:
"gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data --format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
I used the this command line, "tar xvzf jdk1_2_2-linux-i386.tar.gz"
I had to rename the file to its original name as it was truncated when
transferred.
Has the file been compromised or affected by download to a WIn 98 PC?
Any help is appreciated.
Bryan Galvin
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Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux.overig,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Command rule mp3 "deamon" project
Date: 7 Jun 2000 21:24:27 -0000
In nl.comp.os.linux.overig Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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From: Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What web content creation tools are available in linux?
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:30:05 GMT
What are the best web content creation tools for linux also what graphics
and ftp programs are the best?
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From: "news.socket.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO Boot Disk
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 17:33:02 -0500
Does anyone have a LILO boot disk for Red Hat 6.1? I have a boot.img
install but I need a LILO boot.
Thanks,
Jody Thigpen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcin Tustin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Many questions and much dissatisfaction
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:36:21 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >Using MAndrake 7.0
> > 1)Sound Card: During boot, ISAPNP fine, modprobe stage
> >returns "/lib/.../ad1816.o - device or resource busy" (Yes, module
> >exists). Anyone have any idea why?
>
> This can happen when your BIOS detects a PnP soundcard before the OS
> gets to see it. Turning off PnP detection in your BIOS might solve the
> problem.
My BIOS has the option of autoconfigure, or of setting up
all of the settings by hand. I did (which I thought I'd done
already):
# pnpdump -c -r > /etc/isapnp.conf
#modprobe ad1816
And it was all working.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Building an install floppy...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Jun 2000 17:45:39 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry McBride wrote:
>...
>I've read and tinkered enough to get all the required components on install
>a floppy. I've made the neccessary alterations to initrc and checked file
>permissions, etc... Basically, it "looks" just like an unmodified install
>disk... but instead of having the advansys driver on it, it has my aha152x.o
>driver. And it still doesn't work. During the probe process when LIZARD goes
>about probing for installed SCSI cards, aha152x.o gets probed just like I
>intended, but the probe fails... no errors, no burps... just fail... It's as
>if the card is not in the box... I've tried various boot parameters,
>er=cautious, aha152x=0x140,11,7,1, etc... no luck.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but...
You can't pass "boot parameters" to a module. In fact, you can't boot with
a kernel that needs a module in order to find the root file system. You
have to compile-in the support for an aha152x adapter, and then you can
pass it "boot parameters" via lilo.
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From: "Gerard Milmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound with Inspiron 3800?
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 00:40:49 +0100
In article <8hjhbj$e61$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Gerard,
>
> For configuring the sound on your Inspiron 3800, you might want to try
> "sndconfig --noprobe --noautoconfig" as root and choose:
> - the card type: ESS1688
> - IRQ = 5
> - DMA1 = 1
> Let me know if it works.
>
Well, I did everything you said, and also checked the conf files.
However the sb.o module is not loaded (Error: Device or resource busy :-(
If there is a program to set up SB compatibility mode under DOS/Windows, it
should be possible to have something similar for Linux, shouldn't it?
Regards,
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From: Vladimir M. Bogak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X11 on Sony VAIO PCG-XG18/19 - config file...
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:37:16 GMT
Hi, everyone !
Finally i made it work :-)
The only problem i don't like, it uses only 4M of VRAM instead of 6 :-(
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# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 50-90
# Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.
# These two are equivalent
# ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817
Interlace
# Mode "1024x768i"
# DotClock 45
# HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
# VTimings 768 776 784 817
# Flags "Interlace"
# EndMode
# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor
spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806
-hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806
-hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync
-VSync
# 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802
-HSync -VSync
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "My Video Card"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown
VideoRam 4096
ChipSet "NM2200"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device "My Video Card"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan M Hill)
Subject: Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs
Date: 7 Jun 2000 22:41:15 GMT
: > > > Hello all,
: > > >
: > > > Anyone here knows of a MatLab or MathCad like program
: > > > which will work in Linux?. Thanks.
: > > >
: > > > Jon
Hello;
If you are a student, there is a student version of MatLab
for Linux. I have not tried it, but I'm seriously tempted.
Occasionaly I'll write some small programs for Octave and
have been happy with it. Octave is not a clone of Matlab, but
the two programs are very similar.
I have heard that Python also is a nice language to
conisder using.
Jonathan Hill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Matlab or MathCad Like Programs
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:02:27 GMT
On 7 Jun 2000 22:41:15 GMT, Jonathan M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: > > > Hello all,
>: > > >
>: > > > Anyone here knows of a MatLab or MathCad like program
>: > > > which will work in Linux?. Thanks.
>: > > >
>: > > > Jon
Check today's edition of IceWalkers (www.icewalk.com).
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From: jd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How can I find which machine a binary was compiled for?
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 19:20:06 -0400
objdump -f always returns i386, even on binaries compiled with gcc
-dumpmachine returning i686. Is there some other utility that will find
the target machine? Or am I missing something with objdump?
Thanks,
-jd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C. Hilts)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:24:32 GMT
On 05 Jun 2000, Tom Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hammered out:
>Unfortunately, the pervasive view seems to be that the Net is
>for entertainment rather than for information ... and I fear
>it is only going to get worse.
Even more unfortunately, the pervasive view seems to be that the
internet is just the world wide web. There's more to the internet than
port 80, kids.
Chris
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From: "Crashed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP, New user
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:38:13 GMT
man somecommand will give you details on what somecommand is and does,
so will info somecommand
learn a text editor, try either vi or emacs or joe, use man vi, man emacs
etc. to learn the basics.
in /usr/doc you will find a plethora of info, use one of the editors to view
the files. or browse through netscape.
startx will launch your gui, but it needs to be configured first use
xconfigurator or <not sure if this works in mandrake> type setup at a prompt
for a few options (mouse config, services, X config etc.)
Intsalling apps is done using either rpm or unpacking, compiling and
installing. Use rpm based apps in the beginning.
again man rpm for info,
www.linuxnewbie.org
www.freshmeat.net
www.linux.com
http://www.xfree86.org/
www.linuxtoday.com
http://linux.box.sk
Best of luck
Walt Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:T3u%4.8772$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've installed Mandrake 7.0 on a new built amd anthlon 600, I'm no tech on
> OS systems. I can't install from cd-rom I'm using the icon on the screen,
> kde, and it brings up whats on the cd but I can't figure out how to
install
> anything the manuals that came with Mandrake aren't helping I bought Linux
> for dummies and went through that though still no install. Also, my sound
> card (aureal vortex2 sq2500, pci) is listed but as other not as sound. Is
> their a book that can tell me all the commands that I need to know and to
> understand the command line concept (just another windoze user). I do
have
> a cheat sheet from the dummies book but I need alittle more spelled out to
> me than whats available. Maybe dual boot option? Until I figure things
out.
> Thankful for having 2 computers at home. Thanks for the help ahead of
time
>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which printing alternative is better?
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:38:39 GMT
"William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:42:27 GMT, wrote :
"TT> I am moving to a new office and will have two
"TT> machines, one will be a Windows 2000 box
"TT> and the other a Linux box, most likely RedHat 6.2.
"TT> Both machines have their own ethernet connections
"TT> and individual IP addresses. But I only have
"TT> one printer and that will be connected to the
"TT> parallel port of one of the two machines.
"TT> Both machines will be running continuously.
"TT> To which machine should the printer be connected -
"TT> in the sense that using the second machine with
"TT> the same printer is easiest?
It depends somewhat on the printer, but if the printer is a PostScript
printer or 'standard' InkJet (such as an Epson), I'd put the printer on
the Linux box. If Windows 2000 is like Windows NT 4, it should have
'Microsoft Tcp/Ip Print Services' -- this is Micrsoft-speak for lpd.
Install this on the Windows 2000 box and use this protocol for printing
on the Linux box. Don't forget to put the Windows 2000's hostname in
the Linux box's /etc/lpd.hosts file. From Windows 2000's point of view
it will be an 'Apple (Color) Laserwriter II NTx' (generic (color)
Postscript), no matter what the printer really is, since you will be
using a Ghostscript PS-to-printer filter on the Linux box. Using
'Microsoft Tcp/Ip Print Services', you have the Printer Setup Wizard set
up a *local* printer, and create a new LPD port (it will ask for remote
host and queue name).
If Microsoft tossed 'Microsoft Tcp/Ip Print Services', you can install
Samba on the Linux box and use Microsoft's Network Printer services.
It *is* possible to install the printer on the Windows 2000 box, make it
a sharable printer and install Samba (client) on the Linux box and print
that way as well.
"TT>
"TT> Tom Trotter
"TT> ==================================================================
"TT> William T. Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (480) 965 - 0401
"TT> ==================================================================
"TT>
"TT>
"TT>
"TT>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bad Blocks.
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:38:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
> Excuse me for butting in. My problem is similar:-
> How do I "boot to single mode" ?
> I always boot to 'root' (not recomended); will this do ?
No. Single User mode is a very limited mode designed to protect the system
while running maintenance stuff.
At the LILO: prompt, type
linux single
This starts the machine up in a limited run level. Only one Virtual Console.
Only root can log in, and most of the partitions are unmounted or mounted
read-only.
This is the only really safe way to run things like
fsck -c
> When I mounted the 'dud' partition to the good one, (at /mnt/partn2)
> It was named found&lost and consisted of a single dir of various files
> (which I didn't examine yet).
> During the run of 'fix2efs' , there was mention of found&lost, to which I
> answered 'yes' as per all prompts.
> Have I lost all my valuable data ?
lost+found is a directory used to store files that have lost their
connections in the file system due to damage. Their filenames have been lost
but most of their contents should be intact. They're named after the i-nodes
they were connected to.
Examine the files and directories in lost+found.
Use
file #45839
(or whatever number) to help determine what file type it is.
When you know what a file is, you can copy it back to it's proper directory
and filename.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Mounting proc filesystem dup2: bad file descriptor?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ION)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:43:29 GMT
What's this mean??!!
I have a RedHat6.2 linux version installed, and now when I reboot, I get
nothing but FAILED signs when trying to mount the filesystem.
I get all "Bad File Descriptors [failed]" for each of the following:
Mounting proc filesystem dup2:
configuring kernel parameters dup2:
Setting Clock dup2:
Loading default keymap/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: /dev/null: Read-only File system
Activacting swap partitions dup2:
Setting hostname
checking root filesystem dup2:
then it says
"an error occurred during the file system check.
Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot when you leave the shell
Give root passsword for maintenance (or type Control-D for normal Startup)."
1) What could be the prob and how would i fix it?
(also, using e2fsck and e2fsck -b 8193 does not work either. It gives the
following error: Couldn't open /dev/null (read-only file system)
Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda1"
ALSO
2) what exactly does the /dev/null file do for the system??
3) any other options to try to fix this??
Thanks in adv!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: What web content creation tools are available in linux?
Date: 07 Jun 2000 19:47:45 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:30:05 GMT, Julie
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>What are the best web content creation tools for linux also what graphics
>and ftp programs are the best?
HTML creation: nedit, emacs, or vim with syntax highlighting. Keep a
Netscape window open so you can preview your work. StarOffice and
Netscape Composer give you WYSIAMWYG[0] at the cost of being incredible
resource hogs/crashing. IBM's working on something called "TopPage" but
it's not finished yet. Check http://freshmeat.net/ and do a search for
"HTML editor" for more info.
Graphics: Bitmap editing = the GIMP. Raytracing = POVRay or blender.
Not sure about vector graphics, though there is xfig.
FTP: Pick one, any one. gftp is nice, very WS_FTP like if you're
familiar with that. ncftp is great on the command line.
[0] What You See Is (Almost, Maybe) What You Get.
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Subject: Re: change ctime
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jun 2000 18:58:30 -0500
I am under the impression that there *is* a ctime; see for example
'man ctime'. It is a c function (man 3) and not a command. My 'Perl
Cookbook' gives recipes for altering atime and mtime and explicity
states something to the effect that there is virtually no way to alter
the ctime, it the creation time.
I will forge ahead and alter the atimes and the mtimes and hope that
all goes well.
Thanks for your input,
John Hunter
>>>>> "Juergen" == Juergen Heinzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Juergen> There is no such thing as the creation time and just see
Juergen> man touch for the rest.
Juergen> You can do something like this ... find . -exec touch
Juergen> [options] {} \; ... to run touch on whole directory tree.
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Subject: Is there a free CVS mirroring tool I can use?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 00:00:01 GMT
I can't seem to get to freshmeat today. What I would like is to
mirror the anoncvs.kde.org CVS repository on one of my local servers.
How can I do that? I would also like to put other stuff in the same
CVS repository ( in other modules ) so that I have only a single CVS
server to access when I want stuff from CVS.
I hope I wasn't too muddy.
Thanks
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