Linux-Misc Digest #744, Volume #25               Tue, 12 Sep 00 15:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: what is the ORB?  (Rasputin)
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
  Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive (Wouter Verhelst)
  ProLinea doesn't see EtherExpress NIC (David Smith)
  Re: TCP port 947 ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
  Re: POP & SMTP servers ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: Command error ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: efax and .ps files ("David Quinn")
  Re: Mounting root on a loop device (file)? (Leo Liberti)
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Command executed automatically when I dial up? How? (Phillip Deackes)
  Re: booting FreeBSD from Lilo (Christopher W. Aiken)
  Re: X-client? ("slaurijssen")
  Re: Stupid Q: Creating an account with no password? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: Command error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Caldera + DHCP = CRAP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Handling gif/jpg from command line. (Jean-Sebastien Morisset)
  Re: cdrecord screwing up X? ("Stefan Viljoen")
  Re: POP & SMTP servers (DCE)
  minicom session timeout (Larry)
  Re: Keyboard dead when I get to "login" prompt (Mike Clarke)
  Re: Linux test available for download (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: X-client? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Handling gif/jpg from command line. (Vilmos Soti)
  How to grep for date? (George)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: what is the ORB? 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:13:16 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Grant Edwards> wrote:
>In article <CVxu5.32891$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nesman wrote:
>
>>anyone knows the orb is? 

As in ORBit?

It's an Object Request Broker, part of CORBA:

http://www.omg.org

Also a very funky ambient outfit, circa 1990,
if anyone has any MP3s to trade :)

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:15:25 GMT

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:19:50 GMT, D. Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It appears that on Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:44:06 -0500, in
>comp.os.linux.advocacy Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:56:49 GMT, "Ingemar Lundin"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[deletia]
>
>>linux available for the Amiga, too?)

        The first Linux user I ever met ran it on an Atari Falcon.

>
>Probably. Amiga is available on Linux too, http://www.amiga.com/ look
>for the SDK. 

[deletia]

-- 
        Finding an alternative should not be like seeking out the holy grail.

        That is the whole damn point of capitalism.   
                                                                |||
                                                               / | \

        

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:19:37 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The speed for reading is as far as i remember:
> 
> SPP: less than 200 kb/sec
> ECP under DOS: 300 kb/sec
> EPP under DOS: 400 kb/sec
> EPP under Linux: 500 kb/sec
> 
> For some reasons many new computers come with the BIOS default
> set to SPP, does anyone have a very good explanation for that?

I'm not sure about this, but perhaps because SPP is the oldest (is
it?) so the 'default' that is supported by all OSses, also broken
ones?
Wouldn't make sense, but ya never know ;-)

-- 
  7:18pm  up  6:47,  3 users,  load average: 1.36, 1.23, 1.15

Voor een vertaling van Documentation/Configure.help naar het Nederlands:
http://users.pandora.be/wouter.verhelst/configure.html

Any false value is gonna be fairly boring in Perl, mathematicians
notwithstanding.
             -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ProLinea doesn't see EtherExpress NIC
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:09:15 GMT

I have an old Compaq ProLinea 4/66 with an Intel EtherExpress NIC.  The
ProLinea has no CD-ROM, so I'm trying to do an NFS install from another
machine.

The ProLinea uses a 'diagnostics diskette' to detect and configure the
hardware in the box, but the diagnostics don't see the card.  SoftSet,
the Intel NIC config utility, does see the card and allows me to alter
the IRQ and memory window.

Any advice on how to get the Compaq to recognize the presence of the
NIC, so that I can proceed with the NFS install?

Thanks,
David
jupiters_spot AT my-deja DOT com


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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TCP port 947
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:20:07 -0500

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rodney Hendricks quoth:

RH> ok.......shutdown the portmapper and the port closed.  Thanks guys.  Can
RH> anyone think of something that will break by me turning off the portmapper?

Well, that would depend on what you intend to run, but on a firewall
system, leave it off.

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:21:04 GMT

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:11:42 GMT, D. Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It appears that on Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:32:07 +0100, in
>comp.os.linux.advocacy jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>>>> Linux is currently the only end-user system alternative to windows on a PC 
>>>> (IBM compatible in older terminology). Of course you also have Mac-OS.
>>>
>>>And what about BeOS? Or Net/open/FreeBSD? Or Hurd?
>>>(OK, Hurd's not ready yet, but I here it sorta works ish).
>>
>>BeOS & FreeBSD are around for years. As OS they are certainly good. But as an
>>alternative desktop to Windows - well, does anybody really take them that
>>seriously ?
>
>BeOS, despite it's potential, I don't see going anywhere. FreeBSD, on
>the other hand... is every bit as viable as Linux. It's all basically
>Unix, porting isn't hard, and most of the useful stuff is already
>ported for you. Having the source code available makes all sorts of
>things possible that simply aren't possible in the world of
>binary-only software. 

        BeOS has this potential as well. It just seems that it is being
        squandered. While avoiding cruft is certainly a good thing, I 
        think the Be community might be taking it a little too far.

[deletia]

        Any API that exists in a freely forkable form should be quite
        exploitable by BeOS.

-- 
        Finding an alternative should not be like seeking out the holy grail.

        That is the whole damn point of capitalism.   
                                                                |||
                                                               / | \

        

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP & SMTP servers
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:25:49 -0500

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, DCE quoth:

[ snip upside-down reply ]

D> Jem Berkes wrote:

[ snip upside-down reply ]

D> > Rafael Przybyszewski wrote:

[ snip upside-down reply ]

D> > > Hog Rider wrote:

[ snip OP ]

RFC 1855, read it! :-)

Happy Usenetting!

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command error
Date: 12 Sep 2000 17:34:23 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Sorry sent it before finishing.

: The file name is Install.  So i am in the dir where the file resides
: and i use the ./Install.

: this is where i get the error.

And why are you doing this? What instruction told you to do that?
What is in the file Install?

(I rather suspect that Install is the instructions on what you have to
do, or that at least it'sfirst line would bear inspection!).

Peter

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From: "David Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: efax and .ps files
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:46:46 +0100

Thanks again Peter, I'll try your ideas out.

David


Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8pjgge$kaa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> David Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Microsoft call it ADSC or as they put it 'Optimize for portability"!
>
> : Unfortunately, changing to this setting still created the printer
entries in
> : the file.  I'm going to try a few more postscript printer drivers  in
case
> : this 'feature'  isn't implemeted correctly in the HP 4 driver I'm using
>
> Once you have got the postscript into standard form, you can get rid of
> the jcl or whatever at the top using the ps2ps filter that normally
> comes with the pstools suite. Otherwise, tail -3 or whatever shoudl do
> nicely as a filter.
>
> The ADSC should tell them to include the fonts too, and not tell the
> postscript code to make a windows call for it later ...
>




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From: Leo Liberti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting root on a loop device (file)?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:55:45 +0100

Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:57:06 +0100, Leo Liberti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone. Is it possible to use
> >the initrd to mount the root fs on
> >a loop device (i.e. a file)?
>
> mount -o loop?
>

You mean to say,

mount file -o loop /

and then exit the shell loaded by initrd? But I think the only
moment when you can remount the root filesystem is at the
exit of the shell after the initrd is umounted from /. And I was
under the impression that the root remounting is automatically
done by initrd. It is explained what to tweak to mount an nfs
volume as root, but not a loop device.

Leo


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:56:12 +0100

jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> QL (remember it - Sir Clive's baby), Atari, Amiga - all lost out because they
> could not make up their mind where to pitch their products - in the gaming
> market or in the office market. They also did not allow cloning 

Actually, that's not entirely true in the case of the Sinclair QL.
Several clones made it to market.
The OPD (One Per Desk) made by BT with a built in phone/modem.
The CST Thor (Several models were made)
I think another one made by Eidersoft all got made in the '80s.
Now, there's a new higher-tech QL compatible called the Q40.
(68040 based).

The reason the QL failed is because it took sir clive too long to finish it
after its initial release. The first models sold needed rom updates and
dongles hanging off the rom port to be usable at all.

That caused most of the damage.
The Amstrad takeover was the final deathblow.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Command executed automatically when I dial up? How?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:35:22 GMT

PlusNet have just started allowing static IP addresses and smtp mail
delivery on their SurfTime accounts. I have the mail delivery working,
using Exim as my MTA. PlusNet, unlike Demon, require the user to finger
the mailserver so that smtp delivery of queued mail will begin. While
connected, mail is delivered directly rather than going through
PlusNet's mailserver.

My question is this. How can I execute 'finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]' automatically whenever I log on to
PlusNet? I have an ISDN connection, if that makes any difference.

I tried putting a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d but this did not seem to be
run when I connected.

Cheers.

-- 
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux 2000

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: booting FreeBSD from Lilo
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:59:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:26:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
->I had a Linux box and I installed FreeBSD.
->as a result I have lost Lilo. Can I get Lilo back and can I boot into
->FreeBSD using lilo?
->thanks in advance
->Sandy
->

If you can boot into Linux, then, as root, re-run /sbin/lilo
to put lilo back on mbr.  Add a section to /etc/lilo.conf
that looks like a W95/98 section to add boot to FBSD.

Something like this should work:

other=/dev/hdax   [ point to FBSD slice or partition ]
label=FreeBSD

Then re-run /sbin/lilo

-- 
---                                   
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com,   www.cwaiken.com
Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1

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From: "slaurijssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-client?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:01:28 +0200

Yes, that's what I need ;-) I'll go and do a search now

> If you want to sit at a Windows computer and use it to control programs
> that are running on a Linux computer, VNC (server for Linux and client
> for Windows) or an X server for Windows will let you do it (you don't
> need any special Linux software).
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration



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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid Q: Creating an account with no password?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:03:37 -0500

[ post turned right-side up ]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Rafael Przybyszewski quoth:

RP> FyreFiend wrote:
RP> 
RP> > Hello,
RP> > I trying to create an account for my family w/o a password so they can
RP> > play some games. This is a private system so I'm not worried about the
RP> > security aspect. I created the new account but didn't make a password
RP> > and it wouldn't let me log in so I tried making using passwd on the
RP> > account (as root) and it wouldn't let me make a blank password.
RP> > Is it possible to have an account w/o a password and if so how?
RP> > I'm running RH6.2 i386.

[ snip ]

RP> It is very easy, just edit /etc/shodow file and delete encrypted pasword
RP> between ":", and that the system will not ask for password for proper
RP> login name.
RP> If you do not have shodow password just edit password file.

It is bad advice to "just edit /etc/shodow[sp]".  If you must edit
the password or shadow file by hand, take the proper precautions,
and use vipw.

All the Best!

anm
-- 
BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Command error
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:22:45 GMT

I downloaded this FTP program.  I opened up the install text file to
find out how to install.  It told me to cd into the dir of the Install
executable and execute it with the ./Install command




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera + DHCP = CRAP
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:22:47 GMT

I've tried my copy of OpenLinux 2.3 on different hardware and they all
act the same.  Right after installing when it brings the system up,
DHCP works (though no swap).  Reboot, and DHCP fails to run, no matter
what.


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From: Jean-Sebastien Morisset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Handling gif/jpg from command line.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:17:01 GMT

I need to resize, rotate and save gifs/jpgs from the command line. I thought 
xv would do it, but I haven't found the trick to save the image. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
js.
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Personal Homepage <http://www.jsmoriss.dyndns.org/> 
UNIX, Internet, Homebrewing, Cigars, PCS, CP2020 and other Fun Stuff...
This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows NT reboot!

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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cdrecord screwing up X?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:33:17 +0200


D F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:8pj43t$5ua$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Jehsom wrote in message
> <8pio4f$86m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> How much memory do you have?  How much Swap memory do you
> have?
> >
> >$ cat /proc/meminfo
> >        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
> >Mem:  264183808 221970432 42213376 92217344 65806336
> 55484416
> >Swap: 139788288   372736 139415552
> >MemTotal:    257992 kB
> >MemFree:      41224 kB
> >MemShared:    90056 kB
> >Buffers:      64264 kB
> >Cached:       54184 kB
> >SwapTotal:   136512 kB
> >SwapFree:    136148 kB
> >
> >
> >I have a lot of swap space free even though I only have
> 128mb of it total.
> >I can't increase my swap size without redoing my entire
> partition table,
> >which would suck.
> >
> >Any more suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Moshe
> >
> >--
> >jehsom@ angband.org cc.gatech.edu polter.net shaftnet.org
> nullity.dhs.org
> >wreck.org bellsouth.net resnet.gatech.edu burdell.org
> yo.dhs.org gooning.org
> >usa.net togetherweb.com resnet.gatech.edu; gte741e mj116
> @prism.gatech.edu;
> >jacobsonconsulting@ usa.net; ICQ 1900670
>
> Well, that's not really true. You can increase the amount of
> swap available to you by building a swap file, instead of a
> swap partition, as long as you have room for it somewhere in
> your directory tree. Check out the Linux Installation and
> Getting Started Guide by Matt Welsh, specifically section
> 4.5, at:

Hmm - just at the tail of this thread, but, incidentally, my tape drive
(Iomega DittoMax Pro) refuses to work AT ALL under X, I have to be in the
text console.

I have 256 megs of physical RAM and 258 megs of swap.


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e leg and you are still alive."
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From: DCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: POP & SMTP servers
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:35:47 GMT

Andrew I assume you just came back from lunch and dont quite fell like
being productive at work hence your post. I guess you figured you may as
well be unproductive here too! ;^)

PS- I may not see your reply because I am too busy parsing RFC
1855.......... 

> [ snip OP ]
> 
> RFC 1855, read it! :-)
> 
> Happy Usenetting!
> 
> anm
> --
> BEGIN { $\ = $/; $$_ = $_ for qw~ just another perl hacker ~ }
> my $J = sub { return \$just }; my $A = sub { return \$another };
> my $P = sub { return \$perl }; my $H = sub { return \$hacker  };
> print map ucfirst() . " " => ${&$J()}, ${&$A()}, ${&$P()}, ${&$H()};

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From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: minicom session timeout
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:27:25 GMT

Hey all,

 I was wondering if there is a command or setting to specify a timeout
for a minicom session. I am currently using minicom to manage a serial
port concentrator and if the SSH
 connection is timed out or dies on the server, my process is hung. I am
not able to kill or force kill the process. Please let me know.

 Thanks,
 -Larry


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From: Mike Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keyboard dead when I get to "login" prompt
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:38:25 +0100
Reply-To: Mike Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Law
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>    When it gets to the "boot:" prompt, I type in "linux", as usual, and 
>it proceeds to load linux.  But then, when it gets to the "login:" 
>prompt, the keyboard is seemingly dead!

This has happened intermittently on my laptop.

After following through a few step by step interactive boots it was
apparent that when it locked up it was always immediately after running
kudzu. Giving kudzu the -s option might have helped but since I'm not
likely to be changing any hardware on this machine I just disabled kudzu
and had no more problems.

-- 
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux test available for download
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:43:59 -0400

Robert Lynch wrote:
> 
> Tony Lawrence wrote:
> >
> > For some time now, I have made my 530+ question Linux Skills
> > Test available at http://aplawrence.com/linuxtest.html
> >
> > The complete test is now also available for download at
> > http://aplawrence.com/download.html

> It does not seem to me from going to your ftp site, that the
> Linux downloads are there, only SCO.

They are, but there was a typo on the names.  I've made
links so that it will find them now.

-- 
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests, 
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: X-client?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:45:57 GMT

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:46:23 +0200, "slaurijssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>so, in other words. It would not be possible to connect a windows client
>program to a linux box with x-windows running, so that it would seem that
>you're running x-win on ms win?

Certainly, you can acquire and run an MSWindows GDI client application
that acts as an X server, so that you can run remote X client apps on
a Linux box and have the windows open, etc. on your MSWindows system.
Tucows (http://www.tucows.com/) lists several MSWindows client
programs that act as X servers. As I said before, take a look at their
list of X window servers for WIN32 platforms; they have downloads for
MI/X, X-Win32 and X-Win Pro, or you can purchase Hummingbird's eXceed
X window server for WIN32.



>> An X server is the software that 'owns' the display, keyboard, and
>> mouse. It provides graphics display and data entry services to other
>> applications. An X server owns TCP address 6000 (and others) which is
>> used as the rendevous point for all X clients conversing with that
>> server. In the Microsoft Windows world, the X server would be
>> equivalent to the GDI support of the MSWindows OS.
>>
>> An X client is the software that, as part of it's processing, requests
>> keystroke or mouse data from an X server, or provides graphical data
>> to an X server. In the Microsoft Windows world, this would be
>> equivalent to the applications that use the WIN32 API.
>>
>> What you are looking for is an X server for the MSWindows platform.
>> There are several very good purchased products out there: eXceed,
>> Xwin-32, etc. - check Tucows for their list of X servers for WIN32.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lew Pitcher
>> Information Technology Consultant
>> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>>
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>
>>
>> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
>
>


Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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Subject: Re: Handling gif/jpg from command line.
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:50:35 GMT

Jean-Sebastien Morisset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I need to resize, rotate and save gifs/jpgs from the command line. I thought 
> xv would do it, but I haven't found the trick to save the image. Any
> suggestions?

Did you take a look at ImageMagick? That package has a program
called convert which does exactly these things.

Vilmos

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From: George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to grep for date?
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:05:38 GMT

I'm trying to learn a little about the Bash shell, by writing a script
that will check my system log for events that happened today.

If I use the following line in a script, I get the desired output
(assuming the date is Sep 12):

  grep 'Sep 12' /var/log/messages

I discovered the "set" builtin, and figured out how to use it to
create a variable that is today's date:

  set $(date) ; todaysdate="'$2 $3'" ; echo $todaysdate 

The above command produces the output I'd expect, 'Sep 12', including
the single quotes.  But when I put it into grep, I don't get the
results I expect:

  set $(date) ; todaysdate="'$2 $3'" ;  \
    grep $todaysdate /var/log/messages

I get this error message instead:

  grep: 12' No such file or directory

Obviously, grep isn't seeing it's command line the same as when I
typed the date directly.  Why is it different?

Thanks!


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