Linux-Misc Digest #744, Volume #26 Sun, 7 Jan 01 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
one million email addresses for $49.95(au) ("ALEX")
Re: how do i build gnu apps in /usr not in /usr/local ("lenny")
Re: cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter (Bill Unruh)
documentation on libwww ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ipchains question (Dances With Cows)
Re: How to obtain info on "GNOME vs KDE" ? ("Arctic Storm")
Re: ipchains question ("Leon Bourassa")
Re: 10mbit vs. 100mbit NIC (Lucien)
Blank screen on 2.4 accessing vfat ("Rodney M. Jokerst")
Re: Trying to install KDE 2.0.1 on RH 6.2 (Bo Berglund)
Re: where to get Linux 2.3.3 or later? - Problem with RedHat Linux 7... (Bo Berglund)
Re: GeForce2 MX Driver for Linux (Paul Bristow)
Re: How to install KDE on a RH6.2 server (Robert Heller)
Re: Red Hat dead/dying? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Trying to install KDE 2.0.1 on RH 6.2 (Robert Heller)
Re: where to get Linux 2.3.3 or later? - Problem with RedHat Linux 7... ("Philip
Jackson")
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From: "ALEX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: one million email addresses for $49.95(au)
Date: 7 Jan 2001 21:03:18 GMT
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From: "lenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do i build gnu apps in /usr not in /usr/local
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:11:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Paul Kimoto"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8UZ56.974$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lenny wrote:
>> I would like to know if there is a way to have gnu apps built from
>> source to be installed to /usr instead of /usr/local
>
> /usr is supposed to belong to your distributor. If you do this,
> your system may not be able to be upgraded cleanly in the future. That
> is, in the future you get to update the entire system by hand, probably
> from source. Is that what you want?
>
sure is
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter
Date: 7 Jan 2001 21:13:17 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Parminder Lehal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]HP7200e is external
]CD burner which uses linux sg driver for scsi emulation. I use following
]modules for this
]bash-2.04# /sbin/insmod parport
]Using /lib/modules/2.2.16-17/misc/parport.o
]bash-2.04# /sbin/insmod paride
I think in that case you need to use the ide-scsi interface as well to
handle the parallel port device. cdrecord talks ONLY to scsi devices.
Thus you must get your cdrom to be a scsi device.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: documentation on libwww
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:18:10 GMT
Hello all
I am writing a program job of which is downloading many files
(like Teleport Pro)
and I decided to use libwww as an implementation of http.
However I faced an absence of good documentation for this
library. It is not much said on www.w3.org and search
engines point me on that site or to the sites on Perl. Perl is
good language but it is beside the point � I am writing in C
now.
So can you point me on site where there are any
documentation on that library?
Or may be there are alternative well-documented libraries?
All in all it is my first project where I am trying to use third
party libraries (sources)
so can you give me some clues how to gain an
understanding of someone else's sources? Particularly from
what point one starts reading them (main())?
Thanks
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From: Dances With Cows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: ipchains question
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:44:21 -0600
On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:02:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) wrote:
>f
Your post makes sense, but I have what should be a very easy
question. I want to allow everything to go through. I don't want to
deny any access. Can you suggest an ipchains set that will do what I
want?
dwc
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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to obtain info on "GNOME vs KDE" ?
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:25:18 GMT
> The biggest difference [between GNOME & KDE] is the
> browser. Konqueror is an excellent browser in its own right, and GNOME
> doesn't even have one.
> Therefore, KDE wins.
I have GNOME, and it originally came with Netscape 4.x, and I recently
installed Netscape 6. What do you mean by, "GNOME doesn't even have one
[browser]"?
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From: "Leon Bourassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: ipchains question
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:46:08 GMT
If you just want everything to go through, just don't deny or reject
anything, set your policy to ACCEPT, and thats it.
Dances With Cows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:02:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) wrote:
>
> >f
>
> Your post makes sense, but I have what should be a very easy
> question. I want to allow everything to go through. I don't want to
> deny any access. Can you suggest an ipchains set that will do what I
> want?
>
> dwc
>
>
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From: Lucien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: 10mbit vs. 100mbit NIC
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:50:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Connet wrote:
> Hmm... well in order to connect my linux box to my W2k box, I am using
> an ethernet cross-over cable. It has RJ45 jacks on both ends that plug
> into the network cards. This is cat5 4 twisted pair wire right?
Sounds right to me! Guess I was confusing here with cross
wired. Just meant the same as your cross-over in the RJ45
jack.
Lucien
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From: "Rodney M. Jokerst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Blank screen on 2.4 accessing vfat
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:00:54 -0600
Hello,
I have been using linux for a while now and I have noticed, over the past
few months, that with the 2.4 test series and 2.3 series of kernels, that
I have been having problems with what may be the vfat file system driver.
Whenever I am running one of these kernels and I do some sort of large
file transfer operation from one of my ext2 partitions to my windows
(vfat) partition, I get strange behavior in X. If and only if I am
running X, the screen immediately goes blank and remains blank until I
move the mouse. Upon doing so, it continues to go blank unless I keep the
mouse in constant motion. It is almost as if I have the blank screeen set
up to start at 0 seconds or something. This behavior continues after the
file transfer has completed and the only solution I have found to restore
X functionality is to reboot the computer. I have noted this behavior in
most of the 2.4 test kernels and most recently in the 2.4.0 kernel. I
dont recall witnessing this behavior in the 2.2 series. I do have a VIA
KA-7 motherboard, AMD Athlon 650 processor, and the following hdparm
settings:
hdparm -c 1 -d 1 -k 1 -m 8 -u 1 /dev/hda
If there is any other information that I can supply you with that might
help you in understanding this problem, please let me know. I have
attempted to contact the maintainer of the vfat driver listed in the
kernel documentation, but the email address is no longer active. Please
respond by email.
thanks,
Rodney M Jokerst
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Subject: Re: Trying to install KDE 2.0.1 on RH 6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:13:54 GMT
On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:43:03 GMT, "lenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>You need to install X
>best do it from the distro cd
>next thing to impossible trying to
>install from sources
OK,
I had a look at the RH 6.2 CD under /RedHat/RPMS.
Boy, what a bunch of rpms which start with XFree86!
Do I install all of them and in that case in which order? Or is there
a script that can do it for me?
Bo Berglund
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: where to get Linux 2.3.3 or later? - Problem with RedHat Linux 7...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:19:01 GMT
On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:25:47 GMT, "Philip Jackson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Where can I get boot and install disks / CD's for Linux 2.3.3 or later?
>(E.g. what vendors provide this version or later of Linux?)
>
>I've been trying to install RedHat Linux 7 and getting the error:
>
>"no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems."
>
>Postings on newsgroups say this is due to a problem with support of Promise
>Ultra66 IDE disk controllers, which is not yet provided in RH7, but that it
>is provided in Linux 2.3.3 or later..???
>
>So I'm wondering would this problem be fixed if I were to get a copy of
>Linux from some other source, e.g. TurboLinux, or SuseLinux, etc.?
>
>Please cc advice to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>TIA,
>
>Phil Jackson
>
Kernel 2.4.0 can be downloaded from this URL:
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/kernels/v2.4/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
Boot/install disks is something you get from the distros and those
usually lag behind a bit with the kernel. In your case you will have
some trouble if you have a hard disk you cannot install on since then
you cannot even compile and thus upgrade your kernel. :-(
Bo Berglund
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: GeForce2 MX Driver for Linux
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:26:16 +0100
I have one of these cards and it worked with Mandrake 7.2 out of the box.
It wasn't difficult to even make the NVIDIA drivers work for OpenGL support
too.
Jason Ng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a new computer with Winfast GeForce2 MX display card and
> I would like to install Linux on this machine.
> But I can't find the driver for the display card. How can I get the driver
> and how to install it?
>
> Regards,
> Jason
>
>
--
Regards,
Paul Bristow
ICQ #11965223
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install KDE on a RH6.2 server
Date: 7 Jan 2001 16:27:57 true
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund),
In a message on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:37:51 GMT, wrote :
BB> Since the RH 6.2 install did not put a GUI in when I selected 'server'
BB> as install option I am now at a disadvantage since I am used to admin
BB> of the Linux machines from GUI.
BB> So:
BB> Is there a simple step-by-step instruction somewhere on how to get KDE
BB> installed on the server. Note that I can only get to a commadn prompt
BB> on this box.
You don't *really* want to install the server itself. Presumably this
machine is on a network with other machines (workstations). You can
install the various X11 libraries and clients by inserting the RH 6.2
CD, mounting it (mount -v /mnt/cdrom), and using RPM to install stuff:
rpm -hiv /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/XFree86-3.3.6-20.i386.rpm
rpm -hiv /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/XFree86-{libs,devel,doc}-3.3.6-20.i386.rpm
(It might complain about stuff it depends on -- just install the missing
bits and pieces.)
You might then need to install additional libraries (gtk, etc.).
Once you have done this, fetch and install sshd (www.openssh.com or
www.openssh.org). Slogin and ssh automatically set things up to run X11
clients 'remotely'.
If you *must* install an X server, you will need to figure out what
server you need, which will either be SVGA or some accelerated server.
You will need to install the fonts, the font server, and the VGA16
server. You then need to install Xconfigurator and use this to
configure your X server. *DO NOT ENABLE STARTING X BOOT UP.* For a
server this a terrible waste of resources. You will be able to fire up
X when you need to with the startx command. I do however recommend
against installing any sort of X server on a file, web, or ftp server. You
can run X11 clients on the server with the display redirected to a
workstation over the network. I run xterms that way over a *dial-up*
connection (33.6K BPS). And all types of X11 clients on a LAN.
BB>
BB>
BB> Bo Berglund
BB> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BB>
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Red Hat dead/dying?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.solaris
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 13:52:00 GMT
John A. Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ours range from antiquated Sparc 2 machines to recent model Ultra 10
> machines and just about everything in between.
I know the feeling. I've still got SPARC 2's and HP 712's, as well as
Ultra 80's and Jx000 HP's. It can be tough, which is why I mentioned
that images were the same within certain classes.
We're starting to use Linux, and that's even worse, as most current
machines are whatever was sitting around unused. That will be changing
soon, I'm developing a corporate image with a small set of hardware in
mind.
> was our Civil Engineering department where almost every desktop machine
> was serving home directories using whatever space wasn't required on the
> disk drive for the operating system.
We used to do that before the current admin team was formed. I was a
user/programmer back then, and that was bad enough. I'm glad I did not
move into admin until the "secret server" situation was well on its
way out. We call it that because you never knew what functions might
go away if any one machine failed or was shut down. Someone years ago
could have installed an application on a desktop machine and made it
available with symlinks and/or the automounter, then not documented
it. Then when the drive failed, the phone starts ringing off the
hook, it turns out half the users depended on that "secret server".
Those days are gone, thank God.
> A serious drawback of this distributed support model is that it is
> impractical to implement a firewall. There are so many departmental
We outsource all networking and firewall services (EDS, they do a good
job on this actually), this includes all the PC's as well, which I do
not (again, thank Cod) admin.
> machines that have to be accessible from the Internet that attempting to
Ah, our big difference. Absolutely *nothing* on our network is supposed
to be visible from the Internet, and the only connections from the
inside are email, and http/ftp/telnet through a proxy, which most
employees do not have access to.
Our outside corporate web page is designed and hosted by another firm,
is not connected to our network in any way, and company employees
don't even do any of the html design (I was once told that this
eliminated the need for corporate security to examine each update for
accidental inclusion of proprietary information).
--
Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering ram, on a silver black
phantom bike, when the metal is hot and the engine is hungry and we're
all about to see the light... -Meatloaf
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trying to install KDE 2.0.1 on RH 6.2
Date: 7 Jan 2001 16:40:49 true
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund),
In a message on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:13:54 GMT, wrote :
BB> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:43:03 GMT, "lenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BB>
BB> >
BB> >You need to install X
BB> >best do it from the distro cd
BB> >next thing to impossible trying to
BB> >install from sources
BB>
BB> OK,
BB> I had a look at the RH 6.2 CD under /RedHat/RPMS.
BB> Boy, what a bunch of rpms which start with XFree86!
BB> Do I install all of them and in that case in which order? Or is there
BB> a script that can do it for me?
*Most* of the RPMs are the various accelerated X servers. You only need
one (or none), depending on your video card. There are a bunch
containing various fonts (some you might not need). There are RPMs
containing the stuff you need to write your own X server from scratch.
See my previous message...
BB>
BB>
BB> Bo Berglund
BB> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BB>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: "Philip Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: where to get Linux 2.3.3 or later? - Problem with RedHat Linux 7...
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:43:41 GMT
Thanks very much for your answer -- it looks like there are a few 2.2.x
distributions that have support for Ultra66, e.g. Gentus Linux and Mandrake
Linux...
Phil
"Bo Berglund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:25:47 GMT, "Philip Jackson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Where can I get boot and install disks / CD's for Linux 2.3.3 or later?
> >(E.g. what vendors provide this version or later of Linux?)
> >
> >I've been trying to install RedHat Linux 7 and getting the error:
> >
> >"no valid devices were found on which to create new filesystems."
> >
> >Postings on newsgroups say this is due to a problem with support of
Promise
> >Ultra66 IDE disk controllers, which is not yet provided in RH7, but that
it
> >is provided in Linux 2.3.3 or later..???
> >
> >So I'm wondering would this problem be fixed if I were to get a copy of
> >Linux from some other source, e.g. TurboLinux, or SuseLinux, etc.?
> >
> >Please cc advice to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >TIA,
> >
> >Phil Jackson
> >
> Kernel 2.4.0 can be downloaded from this URL:
> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/kernels/v2.4/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
>
> Boot/install disks is something you get from the distros and those
> usually lag behind a bit with the kernel. In your case you will have
> some trouble if you have a hard disk you cannot install on since then
> you cannot even compile and thus upgrade your kernel. :-(
>
>
>
> Bo Berglund
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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