Linux-Misc Digest #775, Volume #24 Sun, 11 Jun 00 07:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Startup Fortunes (Jeff Craig)
Mandrake 7.0 & KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: democracy? (David Steuber)
Re: KPPP problem (kamborg)
Re: Filesystem for Linux AND Win9x? ("Graymalkin")
Re: X:\Confused\Question\Help\ (wayne rattz)
Re: Kernel Upgrade Problem (DanH)
Re: Bash shell problem (Philip Ng)
Re: Does IPmasq drop packets? Too much hype? (David Steuber)
Re: vote on MS split-up (David Steuber)
x terminal problem (jeffrey)
200 mails to root! (Gerd Pickel)
Re: Bash shell problem (Neurocrat)
Re: Help setting up RH 6.2 with Cable Modem? ("Jeffrey Lacy")
Re: Bash shell problem (Neurocrat)
C++ compiling strange error. (YamYam)
Any PHP+MySQL based free provided sites? (YamYam)
Re: C++ compiling strange error. (Neurocrat)
Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux? (Christoph Kukulies)
Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux? (Christoph Kukulies)
Re: vote on MS split-up ("David ..")
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From: Jeff Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Startup Fortunes
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:13:28 -0400
Okay, this is really kind of not important, but I am pretty sure I saw
how to set up linux to run the fortune program everytime a user logs on,
supplying them with a random quip, piece of knowledge, whatever. I
can't remember how to do it, and I was hoping someone else would be able
to tell me. I haven't been able to find it, and I've tried.
TIA
--
Jeff
====================
"The Earth is the cradle of the mind,
but man cannot stay in the cradle forever."
-- Konstantin Tsiolkovsky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 & KDE
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:05:27 GMT
I just installed Mandrake 7.0 and when it gets to the X login (where
there's supposed to be a KDE login screen), there's just a plain X
login. When I log in, there's no KDE, just a couple of terminal boxes in
an absolutely plain X session. How do I get KDE to load?
Thanks,
Sam
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:00:04 GMT
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
' > Wonder how long before government witnesses start disappearing or dying
' > off from mysterious causes?
'
' The US government regularly deals successfully with people who really do
' attempt such things. Besides, it wouldn't help: all the testimony is
' already on record (and most of it is documentary anyway).
...
Gotta remember to use that :^) tri-graph when I'm not being serious.
' > Carnegie kept getting richer after Standard Oil was broken up.
'
' Not surprising, since as far as I know Carnegie owned little if any
' Standard Oil stock.
Brain fart on my part. Hey! That rhymes! I meant Rockerfella
(sp???). They guy who liked to hand out dimes. The one who really
did own Standard Oil, not US Steal. The one who did get richer after
the break up. That guy.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:19:18 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:47:18 -0400, Rick <theobvious@theobvious> wrote:
>The logs all say PPPD started by user 500 Rick ....
>and then it times out.
>
I think it was on Mandrakeuser.org I read that kppp uses a 'nonstandard'
means of connecting, which was one reason I didn't rely on it. But I
was assuming it calls the 'chat' program. Look in /etc/ppp/options,
there must be a line that says CONNECT " ", with the command line inside
the quotes. pppd must call something, since it can't do it by itself.
On my options file it has CONNECT "usr/sbin/chat -vf script" where
script is the name of the chat-script that tells how to initialize the
modem & dial, how to talk nice to the ISP, how to know if he tells
you to bug off, etc.
On the /var/log/messages or the TTY00 screen, after
....pppd[#]: pppd started by ....
the next line begins a detailed log of the negotiation between
chat & server, ....chat[#]: Dialing.... etc. so if something
stops the program from connecting, you'll get some message about it.
But your chat, or whatever is used to dial, seems not to start at all.
*** See what is in that CONNECT line in /etc/ppp/options. ****
PLEASE NOTE. Those man pages prob'ly seem pretty awful, I should
have mentioned the PPP-HOWTO which I actually used a lot.
There's a new 'provisional' or Beta version of the old PPP-HOWTO
just out on linuxdoc.org & its many mirrors. I just saw a list of
alternatives to kppp in there. But you can use the HOWTO and do it
from scratch, it wasn't that hard if you watch the details.
Good luck,
kamborg
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From: "Graymalkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Filesystem for Linux AND Win9x?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:30:28 GMT
My first question is why do you need a 70 gig hard drive for log files? What
exactly is your system used for. As a webserver Win98 doesn't even have a
leg to stand on compared to Linux. Your best bet is to make an ext2
partition and a FAT32 partition for Windows. The FAT32 partition can be read
and written by Linux using vfat and will even let you mount it on boot if
you know how to edit fstab correctly. As for linking, as long as something
exists in a Unix VFS it is linkable by the kernel. If you'd provide a bit
more of an idea on what exactly you're doing wiht this box it'd help out
alot.
"Zach Pardos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running a dual boot Linux 2.2.14/Win98 computer with Linux as the
> primary OS.
> I will be adding a 70GIG HD soon for storage of various web log files.
> Although I'll be using the drive under Linux for 80% of the time, I
> still have to be able to read/write to the disk from Win98. Is there an
> optimal FS for this situation? Performance is a priority over features
> as the disk will be accessed by many users simultaneously under Linux.
> Permissions, Owners, Special files and Links are not necessary. I would
> only like to be able to link TO a file on the new drive from an existing
> ext2fs if possible. All suggestions appreciated.
>
> Zach Pardos
> Solarweb Development
> [ www.solarweb.com ] - Web Design[ TC00599 ]
>
>
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From: wayne rattz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X:\Confused\Question\Help\
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:30:05 GMT
N/A wrote:
>
> how would i go about checking my verical and horizontal specifications
for
> a Windows 98 OS? This is needed for my installation process of Corel
> Linux. Thanx a whole lot.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
What I think youre wanting is the vertical and horizontal rates for your
monitor.If thats the case(I think it is)then you need to check your
monitor manual or the company that made the monitor for the information.
For links to most of the main linux sites and other info try my site
http://www.geocities.com/wrattz/linux1.html
--
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel Upgrade Problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:34:33 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Craig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now the problem is when I run lilo again to reconfigure it. I get the
> following output:
>
> Added Windows *
>
> Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16 is too big
make bzimage
will seriously reduce your kernel's size.
DanH
--
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:36:41 +0800
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Hi, all,
Sorry for asking such silly question. However, it is so annoying that I even
can't execute a script. Here's the script output. Please check and see if
you can shed any light on me...
Thanks a lot for your help!
Best regards,
Philip
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Yes, the one in the Apache folder is "configure". However, the one I
> : execute is in the "src" folder. Inside that folder, you will also see a
> : file called "Configuration" which is used to stored the config detail.
>
> : BTW, What could cause this problem? Is there anything missing during my
> : installation of Slackware 7.0?
>
> apache compiled fine on slackware 7 for me. You are doing something
> wrong and are not telling us what it is. Type "script", do your
> experiment, then exit and send us the typescript file.
>
> Peter
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Script started on Sun Jun 11 17:16:41 2000
darkstar:~# cd /hopm me/philip/Apache
darkstar:/home/philip/Apache# cd src
darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ls
Apache.dsp Configuration.apaci README.EBCDIC main
Apache.mak Configuration.tmpl ap modules
ApacheCore.def Configure apaci modules.c
ApacheCore.dsp Makefile buildmark.c os
ApacheCore.mak Makefile.config changes porting
ApacheCoreOS2.def Makefile.nt helpers readme
ApacheNW.mcp.gz Makefile.tmpl include regex
BUILD.NOTES Makefile_win32.txt install support
Configuration Makefile_win32_debug.txt lib
darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ./Configure
bash: ./Configure: No such file or directory
darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# csh
%./Configure
./Configure: Command not found.
%exit
exit
darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# exit
exit
Script done on Sun Jun 11 17:17:35 2000
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Subject: Re: Does IPmasq drop packets? Too much hype?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:59:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan) writes:
' My linux is the gateway and the Winblows machine that shares its dialup
' connection occasionally suffers from 'server not found', even though the
' Linux box is well connected and can surf
I'm not clear from your post whether you use your Linux box as a
masquerading router, or your Windows box.
I use IPChains on a PPro200 with 128MB RAM and the Linux 2.2.14 kernel
built with GCC 2.95.2. When I am stuffing my DSL connection, my PPPoE
client might start to register on top as a busy process, but there is
no problem at all with IPChains. None.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:00:00 GMT
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
' the market is more innovative.
"Yeah? Well history is about to change."
Marty McFly, "Back To The Future" 1985
Linux is within a couple years of being a major threat to Microsoft
where it hurts the most: on the desktop.
Look at KDE2. It is coming along very nicely.
Look at Gnome. They have a mission of being better than KDE.
KDE has the mission of being the BEST desktop, period. Two free
desktop environments of high quality competing on merit. Best of all,
you can use either of them or some other desktop and window manager
and still run your favorite Linux applications. Not only that, they
compile and run on *BSD.
The compiler is getting better. Friendlier development tools are
getting better. Office type software ( KOffice, StarOffice,
AplixWare) is getting better.
The application barrier to entry is ready to fall. The hardware
barrier will be next.
Sure, Microsoft will be around for a long, long time. But their star
is already fading. See how many DSL providers support Windows 2000.
Java is not dead yet and shows signs of rising back up.
I've heard that Apple is basing its next major OS on BSD. Why they
didn't go with NextStep is beyond me. But my guess is that Apple will
be able to finance a real OS from their iMac sales. It will be a Un*x
under the skin. That skin will look like MacOS in terms of look and
feel. Probably with some enhancements. If Apple does the smart thing
and supports GCC and contributes to it so that free software can be
compiled and run on the Mac, then Apple will start to thrive again.
In five years, Microsoft won't be the company they were five years
ago. I don't know where Apple will be. They actually have to produce
their new OS.
The future looks pretty bright to me, from a computing standpoint.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:04:41 -0700
From: jeffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: x terminal problem
When i open x terminal in x window,i can't see anything,just colours,and
some other problem in x window also like this,but when i quit the x
window and just use the x terminal,all is ok.i got a frend told me that
this is the graphic card problem,any advice is appreciate,thank you.
i am using red hat 6.1.
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From: Gerd Pickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 200 mails to root!
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:12:21 +0200
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hello world!
i'm confused: on a hp e60 with a tc-20 (20gb) a cron-job is running
every day at 11:00pm to backup the hole system with s.u.s.e 6.1.
(command: find / | cpio -ov > /dev/st0).
it produces 200 mails, one per minute(!) (per night!): "device is
busy....".
between these mails, i found the right one which is telling me the hole
structure of the system, so the backup was successfully, but it seems to
need 200 trials :-( .
Any idea to solve this ugly problem?
thanks,
gerd
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
hello world!
<p>i'm confused: on a hp e60 with a tc-20 (20gb) a cron-job is running
every day at 11:00pm to backup the hole system with s.u.s.e 6.1. (command:
find / | cpio -ov > /dev/st0).
<br>it produces 200 mails, one per minute(!) (per night!): "device is busy....".
<p>between these mails, i found the right <u>one</u> which is telling me
the hole structure of the system, so the backup was successfully, but it
seems to need 200 trials :-( .
<p>Any idea to solve this ugly problem?
<br>
<p>thanks,
<p>gerd</html>
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Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
From: Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jun 2000 21:26:21 +1000
Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, all,
>
> Sorry for asking such silly question. However, it is so annoying that I even
> can't execute a script. Here's the script output. Please check and see if
> you can shed any light on me...
>
> Thanks a lot for your help!
>
> Best regards,
> Philip
>
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> > Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : Yes, the one in the Apache folder is "configure". However, the one I
> > : execute is in the "src" folder. Inside that folder, you will also see a
> > : file called "Configuration" which is used to stored the config detail.
> >
> > : BTW, What could cause this problem? Is there anything missing during my
> > : installation of Slackware 7.0?
> >
> > apache compiled fine on slackware 7 for me. You are doing something
> > wrong and are not telling us what it is. Type "script", do your
> > experiment, then exit and send us the typescript file.
> >
> > Peter
> Script started on Sun Jun 11 17:16:41 2000
> darkstar:~# cd /hopm me/philip/Apache
> darkstar:/home/philip/Apache# cd src
> darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ls
> Apache.dsp Configuration.apaci README.EBCDIC main
> Apache.mak Configuration.tmpl ap modules
> ApacheCore.def Configure apaci modules.c
> ApacheCore.dsp Makefile buildmark.c os
> ApacheCore.mak Makefile.config changes porting
> ApacheCoreOS2.def Makefile.nt helpers readme
> ApacheNW.mcp.gz Makefile.tmpl include regex
> BUILD.NOTES Makefile_win32.txt install support
> Configuration Makefile_win32_debug.txt lib
> darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ./Configure
> bash: ./Configure: No such file or directory
> darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# csh
> %./Configure
>
> ./Configure: Command not found.
> %exit
>
> exit
> darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# exit
> exit
>
> Script done on Sun Jun 11 17:17:35 2000
It would seem that "Configure" doesn't have execute permission set.
Try:
...
cd src
chmod +x Configure
./Configure
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From: "Jeffrey Lacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help setting up RH 6.2 with Cable Modem?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:19:27 GMT
You could use linuxconf
"Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have W98 running on a machine I'm also installing RH 6.2 on with a cable
> modem (connected to an SMC EtherEZ 8416 ISA card). I cannot find out how
to
> tell RH about my networking setup. I have all the information but don't
> know how to get Linux to recognize it.
>
> Can someone either tell me how to set up this configuration or point me to
a
> doc site that would have this information?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
From: Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jun 2000 21:30:04 +1000
Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Try:
> ...
> cd src
> chmod +x Configure
> ./Configure
On second thoughts, that isn't going to work either.
If execute permission were not set, the error message would be:
"permission denied"
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: C++ compiling strange error.
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:30:03 GMT
When I compile a small C++ file like:
//-------------------------------
//helo.cpp
#include <iostream.h>
int main(void){
cout << "Hi there!...\n" ;
return 0 ;
}
//------------------------------
I get these messages:
[root@localhost kpsql-1.0]# g++ helo.cpp -o helo
helo.cpp:3: iostream.h: No such file or directory
Note!: I have Mandrake 7.0, with gcc, gcc-c++, gcc-cpp,
egcs, egcs-c++ -this contains iostream.h-, egcs-cpp
In the past I could compile the same file on this
system, but now I'm afraid that some configuration
path name(s) go(es) wrong.
So, do I have to put some line(s) in my /etc/profile,
like C_INCLUDE_PATH or so.
Thanx in advance for ur help.
-YamYam
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any PHP+MySQL based free provided sites?
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:30:07 GMT
Hi all...
I wonder if there is a free site like xoom.com, geocities.com, ...
which allows the subscriber to use mysql+php to manage his site.
-YamYam.
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Subject: Re: C++ compiling strange error.
From: Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jun 2000 21:50:45 +1000
YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When I compile a small C++ file like:
>
> //-------------------------------
> //helo.cpp
> #include <iostream.h>
> int main(void){
> cout << "Hi there!...\n" ;
> return 0 ;
> }
> //------------------------------
>
>
> I get these messages:
>
> [root@localhost kpsql-1.0]# g++ helo.cpp -o helo
> helo.cpp:3: iostream.h: No such file or directory
>
>
> Note!: I have Mandrake 7.0, with gcc, gcc-c++, gcc-cpp,
> egcs, egcs-c++ -this contains iostream.h-, egcs-cpp
> In the past I could compile the same file on this
> system, but now I'm afraid that some configuration
> path name(s) go(es) wrong.
> So, do I have to put some line(s) in my /etc/profile,
> like C_INCLUDE_PATH or so.
>
>
> Thanx in advance for ur help.
The new C++ convention is to drop the .h off standard headers.
Eg.
#include <iostream>
For the old C headers (like say "stdlib.h" or "time.h"), the
convention is to drop the .h and put a c in front, eg.
#include <cstdlib>
#include <ctime>
You might also need to put a line above main()
using namespace std;
(but I doubt whether the latter will be necessary).
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux?
Date: 11 Jun 2000 10:44:37 GMT
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Christoph Kukulies wrote:
:>
:>
:> 'what /kernel' or 'what /vmunix' one is used from UNIX systems)?
: uname -rs
: or uname -a
That's not what I meant. I mean, when I have a file laying around,
with what tool can I look at it and see what version it is (especially
applied to a file named vmlinux)
: --
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--Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux?
Date: 11 Jun 2000 10:45:44 GMT
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8hqpeh$ku1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
:> With what tool can I find out from just looking at the file (a la
:> 'what /kernel' or 'what /vmunix' one is used from UNIX systems)?
: If you can find the kernel image ("vmlinuz", "zImage", "bzImage", etc.),
: you can run "file /path/to/image" on it.
Would that also tell me what version the kernel is (e.g. 2.2.14?)
I suspect it only tells me it is a bzipped compressed file.
: --
: Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:49:53 -0500
Rick wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
> the market is more innovative.
>
It won't be long before M$ will start to realize that they are not the
only OS any longer if they don't already that is.
Look at all the system makers that are shipping Linux pre-installed.
Since M$ has lost control of these suppliers as well as Intel and other
component makers that are becoming friendly towards Linux. All of this
has to be a major threat in the eyes of M$ though they may never admit
it.
M$ is on the loosing end no matter how you look at it. M$ may not notice
it for a while due to their shear monopoly size but all of this
open-ness towards Linux will have an impact on them.
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