Linux-Misc Digest #822, Volume #24 Thu, 15 Jun 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux article in PC world ("Tom Brinkman")
Re: linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Return to prompt login? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: rm -rf causes segfault
Re: How Return to prompt login? (Dances With Crows)
Re: rm -rf causes segfault (Andrew Williams)
Re: mounting VFAT for all users..HELP! (Vadim)
Re: How Return to prompt login? (Andrew Williams)
Re: linux (Dances With Crows)
Re: can't mount cd-rom (Patricia)
Re: Horrible sound at startup with SB 64 (Fabio S.)
Re: DNS problem (Tom Eastep)
Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ? (Rasputin)
Re: Using tcpdump in Linux ("Sasha")
Re: rm -rf causes segfault (kev)
Very slow nfs read performance; linux srvr ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: -lXaw not found during compile---whats that ? (Steffen Kluge)
Logitech TrackMan (Mark Guzzo)
Re: How Return to prompt login? ("David ..")
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From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux article in PC world
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:21:19 -0600
In article <8i84vu$tfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jj2me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Some interesting "reader" views appeared in this month's PC World
> magazine about Linux. Especially the third paragraph by Bobby
> Lane, found it kind of odd, might be worth a look...
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/current_issue/article/0,1212,16776,00.html
>
"I consider myself quite
proficient with a computer, but I spent
20 hours trying to get Linux configured
properly and eventually gave up."
That was the lead comment. He might consider himself proficient,
but it's been my experience that those that have a lot of trouble with
Linux, have trouble runnin Windoze also.
OTOH, Winblows can be made quite usable, it just takes as much
understanding and maintanence that Linux does. I use it for flying
airplanes ;-)
--
~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:25:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ' how do you upgrade linux to win95
>
> The very concept is a paradox.
>
Be extremely careful!
That application THINKS it's an operating system!
--
Don't e-mail your response
Post it right here, but if you must, I'm also at
annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:32:52 GMT
The problem is that I can not login,
when Lilo start up it go until:
INIT: no more process left in this runlevel
and stay here.
I learning somewhere the possibility when
Lilo running to prompt the init, but I dont remember.
I have no CD-ROM, NO boot floppy.
no other systeme (Windows like) is installed with Slackware on this
machine: it standalone.
Please helps, it verry verry urgent
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > I have an urgent problem.
> > How I can return to prompt login
> > after changing init to 4 in slackware
> > and rebooting?
> > Now may machine plante at booting since xdm does
> > not exist. CLT+F1 or F2 does not work.
> >=20
> > Please it's urgent.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> Try under su - init 3 or,
> change in your inittab run level at 3 and reboot
>
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Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rm -rf causes segfault
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:48:35 -0400
I don't know about what caused it, but I had a very strange, but similar
thing happen to me around 1030 pm, I'm in Montreal.
Started up computer, booted into linux.
Started X, but it complained as about the cookie.so I killed it, cleared out
the cookies and started again. but it froze.
dead mouse, dead keyboard. I used the power switch .
I have had days when I 've lost the mouse ( it's a MS red eye ) , but never
the keyboard like this.
After the reboot, things are fine fine however.
If memory is at fault, would the fault go away on power down ?
TIA
joseph
Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Could this possibly be bad memory?
> Try looking at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
>
>
> kev wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just had to flick the switch on my machine because of a problem which
> > I see occasionally. Basically, I issued a 'rm -rf' command and got a
> > segmentation fault. When I tried it again I got no fault but nothing
> > happened and control was not returned to the terminal window even with
> > Ctrl-C. A few seconds later my whole display hung with no way of getting
> > to a virtual console or flicking between virtual desktops. I was able to
> > log in via ssh from another machine but couldn't kill the problem rm
> > processes (I tried kill -9 as root). So I issued a 'shutdown -r now'
> > command, but nothing happened at all, I waited a while but there was no
> > sign it was going to reboot, so I had no option but to flick the switch.
> > Fortunately it didn't trash my filesystem.
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced this with Red Hat 6.1? What is the correct
> > way to avoid it or deal with it when it does happen? What is the cause?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > - Kev
>
> --
> Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
> http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: 15 Jun 2000 10:02:00 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:32:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8ialu4$piv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>The problem is that I can not login, when Lilo start up it go until:
>INIT: no more process left in this runlevel
>and stay here. I learning somewhere the possibility when
>Lilo running to prompt the init, but I dont remember.
At the LILO boot: prompt, enter
linux single
and if that doesn't work, enter
linux init=/bin/sh
and you will have a *very* minimal system. You may be able to fix
whatever's wrong if you know what you're doing, but you didn't provide
enough info for me to help in any explicit way.
>I have no CD-ROM, NO boot floppy.
>Please helps, it verry verry urgent
Make a rescue floppy. NOW! http://www.toms.net/rb/ so you'll be prepared
if something similar ever happens to you again.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rm -rf causes segfault
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:05:12 +0200
yes, but only temporarily.
The kind of problem I am thinking of hits the system when it is working hard.
'rm -rf' can be quite processor-intensive with large directory structures.
Compiling the kernel is a good test.
I had an intermittent problem a while ago that needed a power-reset to clear it,
rather than the three-fingered salute. It was memory.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't know about what caused it, but I had a very strange, but similar
> thing happen to me around 1030 pm, I'm in Montreal.
>
> Started up computer, booted into linux.
> Started X, but it complained as about the cookie.so I killed it, cleared out
> the cookies and started again. but it froze.
> dead mouse, dead keyboard. I used the power switch .
>
> I have had days when I 've lost the mouse ( it's a MS red eye ) , but never
> the keyboard like this.
>
> After the reboot, things are fine fine however.
>
> If memory is at fault, would the fault go away on power down ?
>
> TIA
>
> joseph
>
> Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could this possibly be bad memory?
> > Try looking at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
> >
> >
> > kev wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just had to flick the switch on my machine because of a problem which
> > > I see occasionally. Basically, I issued a 'rm -rf' command and got a
> > > segmentation fault. When I tried it again I got no fault but nothing
> > > happened and control was not returned to the terminal window even with
> > > Ctrl-C. A few seconds later my whole display hung with no way of getting
> > > to a virtual console or flicking between virtual desktops. I was able to
> > > log in via ssh from another machine but couldn't kill the problem rm
> > > processes (I tried kill -9 as root). So I issued a 'shutdown -r now'
> > > command, but nothing happened at all, I waited a while but there was no
> > > sign it was going to reboot, so I had no option but to flick the switch.
> > > Fortunately it didn't trash my filesystem.
> > >
> > > Has anyone else experienced this with Red Hat 6.1? What is the correct
> > > way to avoid it or deal with it when it does happen? What is the cause?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > - Kev
> >
> > --
> > Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
> > http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> > Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
> >
> >
--
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: mounting VFAT for all users..HELP!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:02:49 GMT
>This line should give all users access to the /mnt/win98 partition.
>
>/dev/hda1 /mnt/win98 vfat
> user,owner,exec,dev,suid,rw,noauto 0 0
I want to mount vfat partition as /home. This line gives access to users,
but not to the system. What else should I add.
PS: I am the only user, so security is not an issue.
Thanks.
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:07:24 +0200
Open a command-prompt screen (a terminal) under X and do what Rene
said. You will need to reboot afterwards.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The problem is that I can not login,
> when Lilo start up it go until:
> INIT: no more process left in this runlevel
> and stay here.
> I learning somewhere the possibility when
> Lilo running to prompt the init, but I dont remember.
>
> I have no CD-ROM, NO boot floppy.
> no other systeme (Windows like) is installed with Slackware on this
> machine: it standalone.
>
> Please helps, it verry verry urgent
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Rene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >=20
> > > I have an urgent problem.
> > > How I can return to prompt login
> > > after changing init to 4 in slackware
> > > and rebooting?
> > > Now may machine plante at booting since xdm does
> > > not exist. CLT+F1 or F2 does not work.
> > >=20
> > > Please it's urgent.
> > >=20
> > > Thanks,
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> > Try under su - init 3 or,
> > change in your inittab run level at 3 and reboot
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: linux
Date: 15 Jun 2000 10:09:42 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:25:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8ialfu$p70$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> ' how do you upgrade linux to win95
>> The very concept is a paradox.
>
>Be extremely careful!
>That application THINKS it's an operating system!
The poster said "Win95", not "Emacs". Win95 thinks it's a boot sector
virus, except when it thinks it's a Solitaire game.
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't mount cd-rom
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:08:50 +0200
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Tan Chee Sin wrote:
>"Lonni J. Friedman" wrote:
>
>> I have no clue what fsconf is, although i'm guessing that its some
>> distro-specific proprietary piece of software. Why not just mount your
>> drive manually with:
>> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>>
>> Tan Chee Sin wrote:
>> > I ran fsconf, selected the entry: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660
>> > clicked on the Mount button, then Yes, it reports "Mount successful",
>> > but the fsconf window doesn't show that it is mounted, and I can't
>> > access the cd-rom still. What's wrong?
>
>Thanks. After I entered the command that you've suggested, I get this
>message:
>mount: /dev/cdrom: can't read superblock
>
>fsconf is the File System Configurator for Redhat Linux, one of things you
>could do with it is to mount file systems like floppy and cd-rom.
>
>Chee Sin
Are you mounting a data CD-ROM?
--
Good Luck
Patricia
ICQ 69588792
http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
http://beginnerslinux.org
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
Kernel 2.2.5-15
4:10pm up 17:43, 1 user, load average: 1.17, 1.17, 1.18
Thu Jun 15 16:10:41 CEST 2000
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fabio S.)
Subject: Re: Horrible sound at startup with SB 64
Date: 15 Jun 2000 14:16:57 GMT
>It happens when you initialize the sound card, it's normal.
>Solution #1 - Don't reboot.
This is impossible: I think we are the only office on earth where by tha
night they shut down the power in the whole building!!!!! :-((((
Don't ask me why, I don't know. But, as you see, I am forced to shutdown
when I leave.
>Solution #2 - Turn down the volume on your speakers.
This also is impossible, since my speackers don't have a volume control
(as you see, my office is also poor, in addition to strange...)
Is there a Solution #3, by chance ? ;-)
Bye
Fabio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DNS problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:22:28 -0700
Mark wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am setup a DNS server in Linux environment, but I got something wrong
>when I use nslookup to check it as below:
>
>> nslookup www.mydns.com
>
>Server: mydns.com
>Address: 192.168.0.210
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
Look at your system log for the time when named started. There are errors
in the mydns.com zone file which are causing named to decline to be
authoritative for that zone.
-Tom
--
Tom Eastep \ Eastep's First Principle of Computing:
ICQ #60745924 \ "Any sane computer will tell you how it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:30:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Andrew E. Schulman> wrote:
>> That's why any sensible user has floppy booting turned off and the
>> BIOS locked; even Windows users should do this to stop accidental
>> boot-sector viruses.
>
>Given physical access and 10 minutes, even that can be defeated, at
>least on my PC.
>
>But who needs to bother with that, when you can boot Windows, insert a
>floppy with explore2fs or a similar utility, and modify /etc/shadow at
>will? Linux file permissions and ownership are a joke!
If you want a secure disk, encrypt it.
If someone has physical access to the box, they're going to put
it in a bag marked 'SWAG' and have it off on their toes with it.
Backup your data, and secure your hard drive.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: "Sasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Using tcpdump in Linux
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:30:52 GMT
Thanks for your help
I did the same way as you told ( tcpdump �i lo ) but I am getting ICMP :
Localhost x.x.x.x unreachable.
Shouldent it look at the internal trafic ? I only need the data for internal
trafic.
I will be grateful if you can give some other suggestion.
Thanks allot Sasha
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rm -rf causes segfault
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:36:10 +0000
What do you mean by 'bad memory'?
And, yes, my machine was working very hard at the time, but then it usually is - I
run Oracle8i, a couple of webservers, 10+ terminals and a few Netscape windows, all
with 196Mb of memory, so I presume that pretty much _all_ the memory is being used
pretty much most of the time but this problem is quite rare (I think it's the third
time it has happened in about 6 months).
- Kev
Andrew Williams wrote:
> yes, but only temporarily.
>
> The kind of problem I am thinking of hits the system when it is working hard.
> 'rm -rf' can be quite processor-intensive with large directory structures.
> Compiling the kernel is a good test.
>
> I had an intermittent problem a while ago that needed a power-reset to clear it,
> rather than the three-fingered salute. It was memory.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I don't know about what caused it, but I had a very strange, but similar
> > thing happen to me around 1030 pm, I'm in Montreal.
> >
> > Started up computer, booted into linux.
> > Started X, but it complained as about the cookie.so I killed it, cleared out
> > the cookies and started again. but it froze.
> > dead mouse, dead keyboard. I used the power switch .
> >
> > I have had days when I 've lost the mouse ( it's a MS red eye ) , but never
> > the keyboard like this.
> >
> > After the reboot, things are fine fine however.
> >
> > If memory is at fault, would the fault go away on power down ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > joseph
> >
> > Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Could this possibly be bad memory?
> > > Try looking at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
> > >
> > >
> > > kev wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just had to flick the switch on my machine because of a problem which
> > > > I see occasionally. Basically, I issued a 'rm -rf' command and got a
> > > > segmentation fault. When I tried it again I got no fault but nothing
> > > > happened and control was not returned to the terminal window even with
> > > > Ctrl-C. A few seconds later my whole display hung with no way of getting
> > > > to a virtual console or flicking between virtual desktops. I was able to
> > > > log in via ssh from another machine but couldn't kill the problem rm
> > > > processes (I tried kill -9 as root). So I issued a 'shutdown -r now'
> > > > command, but nothing happened at all, I waited a while but there was no
> > > > sign it was going to reboot, so I had no option but to flick the switch.
> > > > Fortunately it didn't trash my filesystem.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else experienced this with Red Hat 6.1? What is the correct
> > > > way to avoid it or deal with it when it does happen? What is the cause?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Kev
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
> > > http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> > > Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
> http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Very slow nfs read performance; linux srvr
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:26:13 GMT
Hi,
We have noticed very bad performance from our new
nfs server. Our configuration is:
Dell Poweredge 6350 dual Xeon 500 + 512Mb RAM
RedHat 6.1 with kernel patched 2.2.14-12smp and knfsd
patches applied.
knfsd 1.4.7-7
Standard Dell RAID setup and controllers.
vanilla nfs config
We have experience similar poor performance from
another PowerEdge 4350, running RH6.1 without any
patches.
The symptoms are:
From either RedHat 5.2 or SunOS 4.1.4 or Solaris 2.5
clients read performace is very, very slow. Write
performace is quite good.
We have written a small benchmark program to test
performace. The program issues a 'read()' request
of 1024 bytes from the sample files on the nfs server.
The surprising thing is that the very first execution
of the program is extremely slow - taking up to 30
secs
to retreive 1Mb. Subsequent invocations on the same
file are then typically sub 2 secs. We have run the
same tests on SunOS, Solaris and RedHat 5.2 (Universal
NFS Server 2.2beta37) nfs served files from the same
varied clients listed above with no such dramatic
delays for the first read. In fact the RedHat 5.2
running on a lowly Dell Optiplex PIII produced nfs
performance on par with a Sun Ultra 30.
There seems to be a really bad problem with read file
access for files that are not in the nfs server cache.
Please could you help as this has significantly dented
the image of Linux at our installation.
Thanks in advance,
AZ
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Subject: Re: -lXaw not found during compile---whats that ?
Date: 15 Jun 2000 14:41:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>during a compile I got the message ld: -lXaw not found.
>Anybody knwos which packet I have to install to not have the above
>message ?
libXaw is the old (classic?) Athena widget set library (used in
X apps such as xvidtune and xman, for example) and comes with
all X11 distributions. In RedHat it is provided by the
XFree86-libs-* package.
Cheers
Steffen.
--
Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
--
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From: Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logitech TrackMan
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:51:21 -0500
Does XFree86 4.0 support the Logitech TrackMan (marble)?
I have it working as a three button mouse, but would like to use it like
a wheel mouse and maybe use the fourth button.
Mark
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:43:24 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have an urgent problem.
> How I can return to prompt login
Enter "linux 3" at the lilo prompt.
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