Linux-Misc Digest #957, Volume #24 Tue, 27 Jun 00 21:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ("Matt Hughes")
Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ("Matt Hughes")
Error message when running make (John)
Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ("Matt Hughes")
Re: need guru's assistance: mail system (postfix) broken (Dr Teeth)
Loadlin and SCSI (Daniel Samson)
Re: Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fonts appear all as black boxes (bullwinkle)
Re: Full System Restore (Robert Heller)
Re: NFS/StarOffice
Re: Gnome vs KDE
Re: stability of culture of helpfulness ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: How much memory do I need for this server ("Lonni J. Friedman")
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:10:04 GMT
To change which drive is recognized as master, just set the jumpers on
your drives. Usually, drives will have a jumper which can be set to slave,
master, or cable select. Set the small drive to slave, the big drive to
master, and the bios will sort it out. You'll have to copy your windows to
the new drive, I would normally do this in Linux, using Slackware
bootdisks, cfdisking the new drive, mounting both the old and the new, and
doing a "cp -R /mnt/old/* /mnt/new", but not everyone might be comfortable
with that. You could try using Norton Ghost or something. Once you get
your Windows copied and bootintg ok, then just stick the Caldera CD in and
let 'er boot. The Caldera installer will let you pick which drive and
partition to install to; it isn't a problem. You'll have to install LILO
on the MBR of the master to be able to boot into both Windows and Linux,
since Linux will be on a second drive. If they were both on the same
drive, you could just install LILO in the Linux paritions boot sector, and
make that the bootable partition. If for what ever reason LILO screws up,
you can always remove it by having a Win95 boot disk with fdisk on it,
booting off of that and running "fdisk /mbr" to restor the windows boot
sector. Once you do that, the only way to get Linux going will be with a
boot disk.
Check www.linuxdoc.org for more information about running Windows and
Linux together.
Matt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
> windows right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I
> want to install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows
> 98 and caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the
> big drive
> (which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
> smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best
> way to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
> computer recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master?
> how do I install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
>
> lou
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:10:10 GMT
To change which drive is recognized as master, just set the jumpers on
your drives. Usually, drives will have a jumper which can be set to slave,
master, or cable select. Set the small drive to slave, the big drive to
master, and the bios will sort it out. You'll have to copy your windows to
the new drive, I would normally do this in Linux, using Slackware
bootdisks, cfdisking the new drive, mounting both the old and the new, and
doing a "cp -R /mnt/old/* /mnt/new", but not everyone might be comfortable
with that. You could try using Norton Ghost or something. Once you get
your Windows copied and bootintg ok, then just stick the Caldera CD in and
let 'er boot. The Caldera installer will let you pick which drive and
partition to install to; it isn't a problem. You'll have to install LILO
on the MBR of the master to be able to boot into both Windows and Linux,
since Linux will be on a second drive. If they were both on the same
drive, you could just install LILO in the Linux paritions boot sector, and
make that the bootable partition. If for what ever reason LILO screws up,
you can always remove it by having a Win95 boot disk with fdisk on it,
booting off of that and running "fdisk /mbr" to restor the windows boot
sector. Once you do that, the only way to get Linux going will be with a
boot disk.
Check www.linuxdoc.org for more information about running Windows and
Linux together.
Matt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
> windows right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I
> want to install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows
> 98 and caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the
> big drive
> (which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
> smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best
> way to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
> computer recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master?
> how do I install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
>
> lou
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John)
Subject: Error message when running make
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:10:13 GMT
I am trying to run make on gnuvoice-1.0.1
and I get the following message
GtkView.C: In method 'GtkView::GtkView(classs GtkModel *)';
GtkView.C:334: virtual memor exhausted
make[1]: *** [GtkView.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/gnuvoice-1.0.1/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
It sounds like I ran out of memory, if so how do I fix it. My swap
area is 128 meg and ram is 64 meg, I highly doubt that it is disk
space.
All ideas are greatly appreciated
John
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:11:24 GMT
To change which drive is recognized as master, just set the jumpers on
your drives. Usually, drives will have a jumper which can be set to slave,
master, or cable select. Set the small drive to slave, the big drive to
master, and the bios will sort it out. You'll have to copy your windows to
the new drive, I would normally do this in Linux, using Slackware
bootdisks, cfdisking the new drive, mounting both the old and the new, and
doing a "cp -R /mnt/old/* /mnt/new", but not everyone might be comfortable
with that. You could try using Norton Ghost or something. Once you get
your Windows copied and bootintg ok, then just stick the Caldera CD in and
let 'er boot. The Caldera installer will let you pick which drive and
partition to install to; it isn't a problem. You'll have to install LILO
on the MBR of the master to be able to boot into both Windows and Linux,
since Linux will be on a second drive. If they were both on the same
drive, you could just install LILO in the Linux paritions boot sector, and
make that the bootable partition. If for what ever reason LILO screws up,
you can always remove it by having a Win95 boot disk with fdisk on it,
booting off of that and running "fdisk /mbr" to restor the windows boot
sector. Once you do that, the only way to get Linux going will be with a
boot disk.
Check www.linuxdoc.org for more information about running Windows and
Linux together.
Matt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
> windows right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I
> want to install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows
> 98 and caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the
> big drive
> (which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
> smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best
> way to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
> computer recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master?
> how do I install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
>
> lou
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
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From: Dr Teeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need guru's assistance: mail system (postfix) broken
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:15:02 GMT
Better read my message again. I need to be able to send mail inbetween
users on my system. For example, I still need to be able to mail from
root@localhost to ryan@localhost. Without postfix, this is not possible
(to my knowledge).
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:26:31 GMT, Dr Teeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> | It seems that the problem was in the lookup of my hostname. I am
not
> | using a fully qualified domain name. In fact, on this host I really
> | only need to be able to send mail to other users on this system and
to
> | the Internet (through my isp's smtp server). I do not need to
receive
> | email addressed to user@mymachine.
> |
> | How do I set postfix to ignore my non-qualified host name (or
understand
> | it for what it is)? How do I set any mail not sent to my localhost
to
> | go through my isp? And finally, how do I disable incoming email
(not
> | sure that this is needed).
>
> Based on your description you don't seem to need postfix at all. Might
as
> well deinstall it. Have your mail program point to your ISP's mail
host and
> you can send mail.
>
> Koos Pol
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
> T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Daniel Samson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Loadlin and SCSI
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:23:43 -0400
Hello,
I have a 8Go WD IDE drive with Windows on the first 2 Go and RH 6.2 on 6
last Go. I boot RH 6.2 with Loadlin. The BootDisk made by the install
program see the SCSI card (AHA-2930CU) and the CD-Writer (Yamaha 6416s).
But I can't make those see when I boot with Loadlin. Here's my
config.sys
[Linux]
shell=c:\Loadlin\loadlin.exe c:\Loadlin\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 ro
mem=192M
I tried various things with ramdisk and initrd, but there's obviously
something I don't understand. What are the parameters I need to make the
SCSI card and CD-Writer work with Loalin?
Many thanks
Daniel Samson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:16:12 GMT
Isn't Enlightenment part of Gnome? When I launch Gnome, this thing comes
up with "Enlightenment starting" or something.
Wroot
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wouldn't limit yourself to those 2. Try Blackbox. Try
Enlightenment.
> Try Afterstep, IceWM, and Windowmaker. Hell, try straight
commandline.
>
> Don't limit yourself. This is Linux, remember? =)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
> > can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
> > use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to
be
> > released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wroot
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fonts appear all as black boxes
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:30:03 GMT
Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
>
> On 27 Jun 2000 12:59:13 GMT, Christoph Kukulies
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >: On 27 Jun 2000 10:47:59 GMT, Christoph Kukulies
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >:>Gnome/RH 6.1:
> >:>SiS 6326 PCI 4MB 24 bpp (also with 8bpp , IIRC)
> >:>XFree86 3.3.5
> >:>
> >:>
> >:>Several fonts, 75dpi, misc (fixed) appear as single colored
> >:>fg=bg solid boxes in Gnome applications and xterms.
> >:>
> >:>I suspect it could have something to do with glyphs and the Xserver.
> >:>
> >:>Any ideas? Known problem?
> >
> >: Have you tried the RH updates? IIRC, there was a problem with this X
> >: server. Check the errata at redhat.com. Also, 24bpp can be squirelly,
> >: Try 16.
> >
> >Tried that too to no avail.
> >
> >Hmm. I didn't see an XFree86 upgrade in the RH 6.1 errata section.
> >Should I look at xfree86.org?
>
> You're right, must've been thinking 6.0. You could always try the 3.3.6
> from 6.2. IIRC, that requires a glibc upgrade too though. You might also
> try the search engine at redhat.
>
>
> --
> Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
You might try adding or uncommenting some options in the device section
of /etc/X11/XF86Config. I had the same trouble with a SiS 6326 on a
Diamond Speedstar A50, running RH6.1. I added the following to the
XF86Config file in the Device section:
Option "no_accel"
Option "no_imageblt"
If you are using the same video card, this should work, different cards
using the SiS 6326 may need other options, maybe "no_linear" or
"sw_cursor". I would make a copy of the file first and be prepared to shut
down X and re-edit the file in text mode as some cards don't like some of
these options at all. Go to http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/SiS.html for more
info.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full System Restore
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:31:12 GMT
Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:30:03 GMT, wrote :
BH> I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every thing
BH> from '/' on down. I went to perform a full system restore using the same
BH> tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore
BH> the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.
BH>
BH> Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any
BH> libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system restore?
BH>
BH> What happens if a hard drive totally crashes? Must you first install the
BH> OS from the CD-ROM and restore selected file systems?
BH>
BH> Doesn't make any sense. What is the point of backing up the full system
BH> then.
BH>
BH> Help!!!!!
You can't restore certain files *on a running system*. Specifically
stuff line /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2, as well as various
other shared libraries.
Now, it is quite possible to create a 'tiny' Linux system that fits
entirely on one (or two) floppies. That is you create a boot and root
floppy, specifically designed to restore a full backup in the event of
a total hard drive crash. The rescue floppy needs to have the modules
for your tape drive (SCSI conrtoller, sd.o, st.o, or whatever), tar,
mkswap, mke2fs, and fdisk, and whatever shared libraries they need (or
better a *staticly* linked version of tar, mkswap, mke2fs, and fdisk).
You have to be sure that the backup is relative (which is what tar will
do by default). You install a replacement drive. Boot you boot/rescue
floppy set. Typically set up to run in single user mode with a root
bash prompt. You use fdisk (on the floppy) to set up the partitions,
use mkswap to initialize your swap partition and use swapon to connect
it up (this is optional, but not a bad idea). Then use mke2fs to format
the file systems, mount the root under /mnt (or a sub-directory there or
under /tmp or someplace), make the mount points for the other
filesystems and mount them. Now you fire up tar:
tar xvf /dev/st0 -C /mnt
Adjust the -C parameter to match where the new disk was mounted.
Reboot with a boot floppy into single user mode (root == new hard disk
root).
Run lilo to restore the MBR and presto! restore complete.
Note: many new systems are being shipped with Zip drives. It should be
quite easy (given a whole 100 or 250 meg) to 'install' a mini working
Linux system on a a Zip cart. There might be issues as to whether you
can boot directly from the Zip cart (BIOS stupidity) , but you can
always create a 'normal' boot floppy and specifiy root=/dev/<zip drive
root partition>. Yes, fdisk is quite happy to re-partition a Zip drive
and mke2fs is also quite happy to make an Ext2 file sustem (or several
Ext2 file sustems) on a floppy. I've not tried it, but I expect that
mkswap can make a swap partition there too. It *should* be possible to
even create a boot floppy that loads the ppa driver, so you can do this
with a parallel port Zip drive.
BH>
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BH> http://www.help.com/
BH>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: NFS/StarOffice
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:32:22 GMT
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:48:24 GMT, Joost Andrae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Frinky,
>
>maybe there's a problem with file locking...
It might prove useful to note that I used StarOffice with an NFS
mounted home directory under Bughat 6.1 & 6.2 with the server
being on 6.1 with no problem.
However, after I upgraded the client to 7.1 I began having SO
troubles...
>
>...just try this:
>
>If you're a bourne shell user:
>export STAR_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING=0
>export STAR_PROFILE_LOCKING_DISABLED=1
>
>or if you're a c shell user:
>setenv STAR_ENABLE_FILE_LOCKING 0
>setenv STAR_PROFILE_LOCKING_DISABLED 1
>
>
>...and start soffice
>
>
>Regards, Joost Andrae
>
>
>
>
>> Hi,
>
>> Got a funny problem. Workstation nfs mounting /usr, /opt/, /home, etc
>> from a central machine. Workstation users have same uids and gids as the
>> server. Everything loads up fine and runs across the network *except*
>Star
>> Office 5.1. if you type 'soffice' it starts to load then just stops
>(having
>> checked, it gets to looking for java stuff before just stopping). It
>> doesn't seem to freeze or anything it just stops, dead.
>
>> What's even weirder is if I log in as user whose /home/ dir isn't nfsed
>from
>> the server but on the local harddisc, it all starts up fine (staroffice
>etc
>> are still all being loaded across the network).
>
>> Bizarre as everything else loads and runs as expected.
>
>> Any ideas what's causing this?
>
>> Frinky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:36:36 GMT
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:16:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Isn't Enlightenment part of Gnome? When I launch Gnome, this thing comes
>up with "Enlightenment starting" or something.
...it has been distributed with GNOME in the past. However, the
new 'defacto standard' WM for GNOME is sawfish. Although, any
WM should do.
For example: I run the gnome panel in WindowMaker and only use
it occasionally. Sometimes I will use kfm or gmc but I usually
just use my filemangler of choice: dfm.
I also use other K or G apps as I find them useful.
[deletia]
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:40:10 -0500
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+ In comp.os.linux.misc Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+
+ > + In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006252222390.4371-
+ > + [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
+ > + "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ > + > You are a real piece of work. Learn to spell, get an idea of what
+ > + > you are talking about, then maybe post if you have something useful
+ > + > to contribute, troll.
+ > +
+ > + I believe that would make you the troll-ee. Nice spelling flame too!
+
+ > Not the 'troll-ee', but the *plonker*. :-) Big difference.
+
+ Being one who *PLONK*s, I hope.... (As in killfiles)
+ :)
In this case yes, I do not normally use a killfile. However this
poster was such a blatant troll ( and therefore a bad troll ), that
I saw no harm in ignoring that rubish. The trolls you can't ignore
are the ones who post incorrect information in an attempt to deceive
newbies. Ya gotta watch out for them. But this guy may have well
as posted:
"Windows Rulez, and you all suck!!!!!!"
The effect would have been the same, *plonk*.
Best Wishes,
anm
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much memory do I need for this server
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:18:21 -0400
I wonder how well that box is going to function if you have 30 people
simultaneously compiling code on it. I think memory is the least of
your concerns.
David Rolfe wrote:
>
> I am putting together a linux box that will sit on the internet that
> students can telnet to do their programming assignments. We want to
> support 30 students. They will be only running telnet sessions in line
> mode and compiling and running simple programs. The machine we have is a
> 450 MHZ machine with 64 Megs of memory. Does anyone know if this is
> enough memory to support the application? In addition, is there some
> configuration file somewhere that limits the number of telnet sessions?
> If there is I need to set this up. Finally can anyone point me to
> something I can read about securty issues. This machine will be very
> simple. It will not be any kind of web server. Just a "compile server".
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