Linux-Misc Digest #968, Volume #24               Wed, 28 Jun 00 09:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  kde tasklist ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  removing soft links ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  copying a newer kernel to an existing installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  database benchmarks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  removing soft links ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  no-hlt question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  can't install linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  no internet connection with a dial-up in WinLinux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ASF on Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Chinese character viewer/editor for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Gnome vs KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Full System Restore ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux Hangs (freeze) HELP. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RedHat 6.2 remote access problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ASF on Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Onifer)

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:12:09 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. vi      ---  Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...

I spell it out, others say the word.

>2. GNU     ---  Is it spelled out, or pronounced "New"...

You are officially supposed to pronounce the G.  http://www.gnu.org

>3. Linux   ---  Leee-nucks, Len-nucks, or Lie-nucks(How does Linus
 say
>it?)..

Linus pronounces it "Leenooks" (he's Finnish).  I think that would
 translate
to "Linnux" without the accent.  There is no "official"
 pronunciation,
though.

>4. SQL     ---  Is it spelled out, or pronounced "Sequel".. I've
 heard
>both..

I spell it out.

>5. Daemon  ---  Is it demon, or daymon...

Demon.  It's actually how demon was originally spelled.

>6. TCL     ---  I've heard it called Tickle...???*s*

Couldn't tell you.

>7. pico    ---  Is it pee-co or pie-co...??? (Hey, I've used it
>too)...*s*

I say "peeco."

>1. Why is Unix-based systems referred to as *nix based systems when
>linux and various other versions end in "ux"...???

Because *n[iu]x takes too long to type.  Actually, I think it has to
 do with
the fact that Unix is a trademark.

>2. Is FreeBSD linux or not...???  When I ordered all the
 distributions
>from <www.linuxmall.com> I was sent FreeBSD with all the other
>distros...

FreeBSD is not Linux.  Some say it's better.  I say it's a matter of
 taste
(I run both).

>3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix
 based
>systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...???  If so, where
 can
>I get a copy of this POSIX standard...???  What else does the
 standard
>dictate...???

Don't know.

>4. Does the sysvinit program install the 'login' and 'sulogin'
 programs
>when it is installed itself...???  I know the 'init' process
 activates
>and respawns these programs, but is the 'login' and 'sulogin'
 programs
>part of the sysvinit distribution...???
>
Well, the SysVinit rpm for Redhat has sulogin, but not login.  That
 doesn't
mean much, though.

>5. Does anyone but me use 'pico'...???*smile*  Getting used to 'vi'
 is
>just killing me...!!!*s*

I use pico for email on my unix account at work, but not otherwise. 
 Text
editor preference is almost entirely subjective.  Use what you find
 most
useful.  That said, vi is a powerful editor if you can learn enough
 of its
commands.  That said, I mostly use emacs-like editors, I guess
 because I
like playing Finger Twister more than changing modes.

                                jay

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:25 GMT

From: Philipp Poeml <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi everyone,

I got an nice notebook with a 386SX-20, 60MB HDD, Floppy Drive, VGA,
 and
ONLY 1MB of Ram. And I don't know, where I may buy more Ram for it,
because it is old and it seems to be special Cards which I have to
 place
on the mainboard.
What I would like to know is, what Linux I could install on it.
I just want to run a VI to edit my TeX Files and perhaps have a small
internet connection via ppp or plip to read my e-mail.
Is ELKS the only stuff that would run on it?
Perhaps somebody knows, where I could get memory and other hardware
 for
it?
Thanks for your help!

Philipp

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Institut fuer Mineralogie
Uni Muenster
Corrensstr. 24
48149 Muenster, Germany
phone: +49-251-8333048
fax: +49-251-8338397
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kde tasklist
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:25 GMT

From: Matthew Matchura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there an applet for the KDE panel similar to Gnome Tasklist?
> (one-click switching between application) Windows has it, Gnome has
 it,
> how come I can't find one in KDE?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Open the 'start' menu, open 'kde control center'.  Under
 'applications' is
'panel'.  The first tab is 'panel' and it is divided into three
 sections.
Locate the section 'Taskbar' and sellect the radio button for the
 location
you want it.   Then hit apply and the desktop will refresh with the
taskbar present.

Matt M






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: removing soft links
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:25 GMT

From: Phil Reardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Recently I made a soft link by going into the target directory and
issuing ln -s /home/myhome.  How can I delete this link, without
removing  or loosing the stuff in myhome?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: copying a newer kernel to an existing installation
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> 
> Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : How do I have to proceed, when I did a Linux (RH 6.1)
 installation
> : and I want to exchange the kernel on the hard disk afterwards
 (because
> : the installed kernel 2.2.12 panics - it is an SMP machine and
> : I have working SMP kernels lying around on other machines)
> 
> I tried dd if=bzImage of=/dev/fd0
> and rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1
> afterwards.
> 
> This boots fine from the floppy but then panics because kernel
 can't
> find init. It suggests to use the init= option.
> 
> How do I get the init= option attached to such a dd'ed bzImage?
> 
> : --
> : Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> --
> Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At the boot prompt enter:

 linux root=/dev/hdaX

where the X would be the correct root partition.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: database benchmarks
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Anyone know where I can find some tpc (www.tpc.org) benchmarks for
databases which run under linux, eg. oracle, sybase, mysql,...?
Speed and cost comparisons is what I'm looking for.

I couldn't find any linux benchmarks at www.tcp.org
I'm very curious to see just how these dbms' stack up on linux
versus other operating systems, eg. windows, solaris, etc.

-Adnan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: removing soft links
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:31:38 -0600, Phil Reardon said:
>Recently I made a soft link by going into the target directory and
>issuing ln -s /home/myhome.  How can I delete this link, without
>removing  or loosing the stuff in myhome?

You can type:
        rm /here/is/your/link

That removes the link, not the file it points to. If you're not
exactly sure what I mean, test it first by experimenting with a newly
created link :-)

Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: no-hlt question
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If your computer hangs sometimes. And when yoou run kernel with
 no-hlt
option it stop hanging. What the problem could be? Motheboard,
processor, memmomory, harddrive etc?
It could work some minutes without hanging, the procesor have no hlt
bug. So what the problem?

Rafael




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: can't install linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

both the swap and the ext2 are below 8gb, even below the 2gb border
 (2nd
and 3nd logical volume),

claus


bIn article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Florian E.J. Fruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  wrote in <8j9fsg$lgi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I have a 13 GB hdd on a quite old computer which bios only
recognizes
> > 7.8GB. As soon as I have a partition over 7.8 gb allocated, I
 can't
> > install linux (suse and red hat). the strange thing is, that red
 hat
> > recognizes all partitions correctly but if I want to partition
 with
> > fdisk, the pc hangs. When partitioning with partition magic in
winnt4.0
> > and then mounting the linux partitions in the redhat install
 routine
and
> > pressing next causes again the pc to hang. I know, that some
 "old"
> > or os which call the bios for the size of the hdd have problems
> > installing onto a hdd > 8GB (like win9x, winnt4.0 prior sp4 or
os/2). is
> > there a way to solve this problem. I don't want to throw away all
the
> > data over the 8gb (Beos and win2k caused no problem at all when
> > installing). I fussed around almost half a day with OS/2 warp 4
 and
> > ended up with a second hdd and a primary partition. I really
 don't
want
> > to have to do this with linux too. so please reply, hopefully
 there
is a
> > way,
> > claus goettfert
>
> have u tried to set the linux partition below 8gb and windoze above
 ?
> perhaps if u haven't it could solve your problem...
> fejf
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: no internet connection with a dial-up in WinLinux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Your post is very confusing.  "I am able to dial out with my 56K
 modem, but
from there I can't connect to the internet."  You can dial out where,
 to your
ISP? To a BBS?  To your mom's house? =)  If you mean you can connect
 to your
ISP but you can't "get on the web" by typing in www.yahoo.com, your
 DNS
configuration is most likely screwed up.  Get your Internet
 Provider's DNS
servers' IP addresses and insert them into the DNS servers' fields in
 kppp (or
whatever dialer you're using).  Or, insert them into your
 /etc/resolv.conf
file as:


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hej!
I have the same problem With my Amd K6-III, when I set to 2.4 Volt it
 run at 40 C,
but when I set to 2.8 it run at 55 C but than it not hang.

Rafael

Stefan Soos wrote:

> St�phane Marguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > First excuse me for the cross-posting.
> > But Linux run fine at 333 Mhz and freeze at 500 Mhz. It's running
 fine (well
> > , it's running as usual) on windows !!
> > So it's or a problem of speed or of temperature. No ??
> >
>
> Hi,
> just for reference. I'm running an AMD-K6/2 500 at 40�C.
>
> One year ago I had a similar problem. I could run windows (even
 playing games)
> but linux refused to boot. It was a hardware failrue. The processor
 was
> completely toasted.
>
> HTH,
>
> Stefan
>
> p.s. Follow-up-to set
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

here is my situation.  I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
 windows 
right now.  I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive.  I want to
 
install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows 98
 and 
caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4.  I want windows to run on the big
 drive 
(which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older, 
smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive.  what is the
 best way 
to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
 computer 
recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master? how do I
 
install linux on ONLY the smaller drive?  help!

lou

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ASF on Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dmitri V wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I need to play back some video clips, which were recorded in M$ ASF
> format. I tried Netshow for Linux from FreeBSD distro, but it seems
 to
> be somehow obsolete, as it does recognize my ASF files as ASF files
> (i.e. does not swear at them), but says, that an appropriate codec
 has
> not been found.
> 
> I tried to search many places like deja, google, freshmeat, etc.,
 but
> have found nothing relevant.
> 
> Does anybody know some solution? Maybe, it is possible to convert
 ASF,
> say, to AVI or MPEG? I have a Windoze box available, so it would
 suffice
> if I could just convert a bunch of ASF files into something
 recognizable
> on a fairly commonplace Linux box.
> 
> I also tried Wine, but it does not want to launch a Wndows Media
 Player
> installer, it asks for something else, which does not seem to be
 freely
> downloadable.
> 
> Please, help me, if somebody knows how to do that, your help will
 be
> greatly appreciated!

ASF is a proprietary software file format which has been patented. It
can not legally be reverse engineered to work due to those patents.
 This
is another M$ innovate & destroy tactics. M$ wants to be the "ONLY"
software manufacturer and takes big steps to do this by not being
compatable with other OS's and/or programs.

Best of luck.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Chinese character viewer/editor for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Phease)

On 27 Jun 2000 16:51:34 GMT, James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Tan Chee Sin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there a Chinese character viewer / editor for
 Linux?
>> Thanks.
>> At the moment, I do not want to install a completely Chinese
 Linux.
>
>I use cxterm, celvis, because I use vi.

Emacs can be made to work with Chinese characters.

Has anyone tried kde version 2?  How well does this handle Chinese?

Barry Phease

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.es.co.nz/~barryp



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to
 be
released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?

Thanks

Wroot


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Philip Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and
 I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most
 people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2
 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wroot
> 
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> Before you buy.
Flame bait? :)  Actually, to use one or the other is more of a
preference thing than any other reason.  Both are very good. 
Development of both are coming along quite nicely.  I think that for
most users, KDE is a little more Windows(ish) but can be configured
 to
look and operate however best suites you.

RedHat has backed gnome in the past because licensing of the qt
libraries (on which KDE is based) was not open source (Which, also is
the reason I originally chose gnome & have never had a reason to
change).  I *think* that the licensing has been opened up in the last
year or so and so RedHat now includes KDE on their distro's.  As I
understand it, Mandrake was created because someone wanted RedHat
 with
KDE.  However, RH has put a *lot* of manpower and support behind
 gnome,
and I figure it'll remain RH's default for a while yet at least.

You don't have to choose one over the other, really.  Gnome
 applications
will run under any X window manager as long as the proper libraries
 are
installed.  Same goes for kde applications.  I use KMySQL on my
Enlightenment/Gnome desktop quite often because I haven't found a
 gnome
application that fits my needs as well as it does.

Note:  Much of this message is my opinion and facts as I understand
them.  If I'm wrong, correct me and I'll gladly change my evil ways. 
 No
need to flame! ;-)

-- 
Philip A. Chapman
IT Manager for Alliance TeleSolutions



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

u gonna start a religous war....

 i know that KDE has been around a lil longer than GNOME.
 i use KDE and i have the GTK+(for gnome) libs installed - thus
 every (if not most) GNOME/GTK app should run on top of KDE.
 i'm sure the vice-versa is true, but i never tested it.

  its really a matter of preference, i suppose.


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
 news:8jb552$v9g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and
 I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most
 people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2
 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Full System Restore
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every
 thing 
from '/' on down.  I went to perform a full system restore using the
 same 
tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore 
the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.

Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any 
libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system
 restore?

What happens if a hard drive totally crashes?  Must you first install
 the 
OS from the CD-ROM and restore selected file systems? 

Doesn't make any sense.  What is the point of backing up the full
 system 
then.

Help!!!!! 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Hangs (freeze) HELP.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hej Ron!
You was a great help to me. Unfortunately I have 3 more power suplies
 but all of
them are less  (230W) than this I have in Chassi. Do you know if I
 can connect
two of them to get more power. Is it save if I  conect + 12 V from
 one power
suply with the other and connect to motherboard?
>From two days I am running linux with no-hlt option and it not hang.
 But this is
not solution.
Lot of thanks for your answers

Rafael


Ron wrote:

> Rafael,
>
> You most likely have a problem in either the motherboard or power
 supply.
> It may even be a bios setting in the motherboard.  Your best
 solution at
> this point is to try substituting a different power supply or
 motherboard.
> Borrow one if you have to.
>
> Power supplies sense the current being drawn by your hardware.  The
 power
> supply outputs four voltages: +5V, -5V, +12V, and -12V, but the
 bulk of the
> power is in the +5V and +12V lines.  Where are you measuring 44
 watts and
> with what equipment?
>
> If you increase the CPU voltage, the CPU will typically draw more
 power.
> This will translate into more current being drawn from the power
 supply,
> depending on the regulators used on the motherboard.  But it is
 only a small
> difference.  If that small of a difference causes the power supply
 to become
> unstable, I would replace it!  Perhaps you could confirm this by
 adding a
> 20W dummy load to your power supply +5V line and see if the system
 remains
> stable.
>
> However, the problem with the reset switch seems to point to the
> motherboard.  Resets are hardware signals that force all the
 hardware into a
> known state.  If some device will not reset, it has failed and must
 be
> replaced.  The same reset you get by pushing the reset button is
 also
> automatically done everytime at powerup.  It is essential to have
 all the
> hardware reset to a known state in order to be able to set it up
 correctly.
>
> Ron
>
> Rafael wrote:
> >
> > Hej Brian!
> > Thanks for your answers.
> > Maybe I will give you more info. I have AT power suplie not ATX. 
 I was
> > chacking also by special equipment how many energy my computer
 take. And
> > it showed 44 Watts in LInux and 64 in Windows (Microsoft), when I
> > instaled Hmonitor (program making halt) the consumtion was the
 same as
> > in Linux but it not hangs.
> > Can you tell me why it hangs not so often if I change Voltage to
 2.8
> > from 2.4.
> > But I checked also that the total power consumtion is the same
 44Watts.
> > Please help me if you have any advice.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > your
> > Rafael
> >
> > brian moore wrote:
> >
> >> Check your power supply.
> >>
> >> This sounds very similar to another person's problems here a
 couple
> >> years ago: his system would run fine in Windows, and would run
 in Linux
> >> until he let the computer idle.  After 10 minutes or so of idle
 time it
> >> would die.  If he left a while(1) program running, it would work
 fine.
> >>
> >> The problem was his power supply: when Linux idles, it issues a
 'halt'
> >> instruction to the CPU to sleep until the next interrupt.  This
 puts the
> >> CPU into a low-power mode as well and reduces draw on the power
 supply.
> >> With a switching power supply, though, you need a certain amount
 of draw
> >> or it becomes unstable.  It didn't affect Windows because
 Windows
> >> doesn't issue a halt: it just busy-loops, providing the
 equivalent of a
> >> while(1) running at all times.
> >>
> >> You certainly have a hardware problem: Linux can not disable the
 reset
> >> switch.
> >>
> ...snip...



Ron wrote:

> Rafael,
>
> You most likely have a problem in either the motherboard or power
 supply.
> It may even be a bios setting in the motherboard.  Your best
 solution at
> this point is to try substituting a different power supply or
 motherboard.
> Borrow one if you have to.
>
> Power supplies sense the current being drawn by your hardware.  The
 power
> supply outputs four voltages: +5V, -5V, +12V, and -12V, but the
 bulk of the
> power is in the +5V and +12V lines.  Where are you measuring 44
 watts and
> with what equipment?
>
> If you increase the CPU voltage, the CPU will typically draw more
 power.
> This will translate into more current being drawn from the power
 supply,
> depending on the regulators used on the motherboard.  But it is
 only a small
> difference.  If that small of a difference causes the power supply
 to become
> unstable, I would replace it!  Perhaps you could confirm this by
 adding a
> 20W dummy load to your power supply +5V line and see if the system
 remains
> stable.
>
> However, the problem with the reset switch seems to point to the
> motherboard.  Resets are hardware signals that force all the
 hardware into a
> known state.  If some device will not reset, it has failed and must
 be
> replaced.  The same reset you get by pushing the reset button is
 also
> automatically done everytime at powerup.  It is essential to have
 all the
> hardware reset to a known state in order to be able to set it up
 correctly.
>
> Ron
>
> Rafael wrote:
> >
> > Hej Brian!
> > Thanks for your answers.
> > Maybe I will give you more info. I have AT power suplie not ATX. 
 I was
> > chacking also by special equipment how many energy my computer
 take. And
> > it showed 44 Watts in LInux and 64 in Windows (Microsoft), when I
> > instaled Hmonitor (program making halt) the consumtion was the
 same as
> > in Linux but it not hangs.
> > Can you tell me why it hangs not so often if I change Voltage to
 2.8
> > from 2.4.
> > But I checked also that the total power consumtion is the same
 44Watts.
> > Please help me if you have any advice.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > your
> > Rafael
> >
> > brian moore wrote:
> >
> >> Check your power supply.
> >>
> >> This sounds very similar to another person's problems here a
 couple
> >> years ago: his system would run fine in Windows, and would run
 in Linux
> >> until he let the computer idle.  After 10 minutes or so of idle
 time it
> >> would die.  If he left a while(1) program running, it would work
 fine.
> >>
> >> The problem was his power supply: when Linux idles, it issues a
 'halt'
> >> instruction to the CPU to sleep until the next interrupt.  This
 puts the
> >> CPU into a low-power mode as well and reduces draw on the power
 supply.
> >> With a switching power supply, though, you need a certain amount
 of draw
> >> or it becomes unstable.  It didn't affect Windows because
 Windows
> >> doesn't issue a halt: it just busy-loops, providing the
 equivalent of a
> >> while(1) running at all times.
> >>
> >> You certainly have a hardware problem: Linux can not disable the
 reset
> >> switch.
> >>
> ...snip...




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHat 6.2 remote access problems
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:26 GMT

From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I custom installed RH 6.2, installing all included packages. I'm
 running

ftp, telnet, smtp, http, and pop-3. I can access my computer remotely
 on
all
of these ports. Until a remote-session times out.

I am accessing my computer remotely, from my other Win 95 computer
downstairs.
I don't have my two local computers connected via the local net, so
 I'm
accessing
my Linux box via the internet. If I'm in an active telnet session,
 and I
walk away
from the computer for a minute or two, the telnet session on my Win
 95
box
freezes. After that, I cannot get back into my Linux box, regardless
 of
which port I try. I walk upstairs to the Linux box, kill the remote
 bash
session,
and all appears well. Until I try to connect remotely again. No
 telnet,
no ftp,
no http, etc.

Having exhausted all other routes, the only way I can successfully
 log
into my
Linux box from the internet is to reboot the Linux machine. I know
 that
it is the
Linux box, because even after the remote telnet sessions freeze up on
 my

Windows 95 box, I can still use Win 95 to telnet to other computers
 --
indicating it's not theWin 95  telnet program causing the problem.

Please tell me what else I can do.
Thanks,
Eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ASF on Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:27 GMT

From: Nicholas Murison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There _was_ an media player with ASF support for Linux, but the
 author
had to cut out that part of the code after M$ flexed some legal
 muscle. 
I believe there are tools out there for Windows that can convert ASFs
 to
MEPGs, but I can't any specific ones.
-- 
Nicholas John Murison
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't mess with penguins
Registered Linux User #153895   http://counter.li.org



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:27 GMT

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)

>Linux requires at least 4M.  You might try Minix, which can
 definitely run
>vi and some sort of Telnet client, and is a lot more usable than
 ELKS atm.

Maybe DOS?

Please, don't kill me! ;)

Frinky



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:27 GMT

From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Die. Die. Die. =)

Actually, DOS might be a more feasable solution, but try QNX too, it
 runs off
of a floppy disk (Even has it's own gui! Very impressive!), but of
 course makes
a RAMDisk and don't know how much it requires...

J Bland wrote:

> >Linux requires at least 4M.  You might try Minix, which can
 definitely run
> >vi and some sort of Telnet client, and is a lot more usable than
 ELKS atm.
>
> Maybe DOS?
>
> Please, don't kill me! ;)
>
> Frinky




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