Linux-Misc Digest #4, Volume #25                 Fri, 30 Jun 00 22:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Linux Counter: 149417 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DNS problem(I think) (nathan wagner)
  Re: Internet explorer for linux? ("Philo")
  Re: Internet explorer for linux? (Johand Cruse)
  Re: RealPlayer for Linux
  Re: Rebuilt kernel, can't find DAC960 module (Cokey de Percin)
  Re: How to use tar with mulitple files... (Jim Marshall)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 149417 registered Linux users
Date: 1 Jul 2000 01:00:03 GMT

This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.misc, and on the Linux Counter "announce" list.

Registration and information is available via the World
Wide Web; connect to URL http://counter.li.org/

This is the preferred interface to the counter.

NOTE: You can UPDATE your record in the counter if you have
your registration key, which was sent to you when you registered.

EMAIL:

To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with the SUBJECT line containing the word "Linux",
such as:

  I use Linux at home
  I use Linux at work
  I use Linux at school

Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck!

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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Sat Jul  1 00:40:22 2000

There are 149417 persons registerd.
3023 users have been registered by friends.
There are 78082 machines registered.

I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
2,988,340 and 74,708,500 people.

WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population

 No    Country                       Pers  Fri Mach P/Mpop   Mpop
======================================================================
  1 IS Iceland                        217    4   97 802.8    0.3
  2 NO Norway                        3225   49 1419 735.7    4.4
  3 FI Finland                       3254   55 1697 637.4    5.1
  4 DK Denmark                       3135   17 1198 597.2    5.2
  5 SE Sweden                        4948   60 2349 555.9    8.9
  6 AQ Antarctica                       2    0    0 486.0    0.0
  7 NF Norfolk Island                   1    0    0 452.7    0.0
  8 FO Faroe Islands                   18    0    2 410.4    0.0
  9 EE Estonia                        519   16  314 355.6    1.5
 10 SI Slovenia                       647    8  172 331.5    2.0
 11 GI Gibraltar                        8    1   11 278.1    0.0
 12 NL Netherlands                   3893   51 1964 250.1   15.6
 13 MS Montserrat                       3    0    1 234.9    0.0
 14 CA Canada                        6197   83 3176 215.0   28.8
 15 AT Austria                       1712   31  958 213.4    8.0
 16 LU Luxembourg                      84    0   41 202.0    0.4
 17 MC Monaco                           6    1    4 189.2    0.0
 18 AU Australia                     3324   50 1871 182.0   18.3
 19 NZ New Zealand                    623    3  375 175.6    3.5
 20 US USA                          44816  832 22808 168.2  266.5
 21 CH Switzerland                   1203   16  723 166.9    7.2
 22 IE Ireland                        576    5  258 161.5    3.6
 23 BE Belgium                       1584  525  805 155.7   10.2
 24 HU Hungary                       1515   48  835 151.5   10.0
 25 DE Germany                      10524  187 5487 126.0   83.5
 26 CY Cyprus                          91    0   14 122.2    0.7
 27 SG Singapore                      397    7  154 116.9    3.4
 28 PT Portugal                      1142    9  336 115.8    9.9
 29 FR France                        6303  111 2437 108.1   58.3
 30 GL Greenland                        6    0    1 103.1    0.1
 31 ES Spain                         4033   32 1124 102.9   39.2
 32 GB Great Britain                 5918  109 3022 101.2   58.5
 33 KR Korea (South)                 4561   19  485 100.3   45.5
 34 AD Andorra                          7    0    6  96.2    0.1
 35 IL Israel                         508   13  244  93.7    5.4
 36 PL Poland                        3588   55 1524  92.9   38.6
 37 VG Virgin Islands (British)         1    0    0  75.8    0.0
 38 CZ Czech Republic                 740   21  423  71.7   10.3
 39 TC Turks and Caicos Islands         1    0    0  69.9    0.0
 40 BG Bulgaria                       563    6  221  65.4    8.6
 41 LI Liechtenstein                    2    0    3  64.3    0.0
 42 LT Lithuania                      229    3  109  62.8    3.6
 43 CR Costa Rica                     208    0   82  60.1    3.5
 44 PW Palau                            1    0    0  59.0    0.0
 45 HR Croatia                        291    6   82  58.2    5.0
 46 KY Cayman Islands                   2    0    3  57.7    0.0
 47 UY Uruguay                        186    0   44  57.4    3.2
 48 GR Greece                         589   13  226  55.9   10.5
 49 NC New Caledonia                   10    0   14  53.3    0.2
 50 IT Italy                         2900   64 1166  50.5   57.5
 51 BM Bermuda                          3    0    4  48.3    0.1
 52 FM Micronesia, Federated States     6    0    0  47.9    0.1
 53 GU Guam                             7    0    1  44.6    0.2
 54 BB Barbados                        11    0    3  42.8    0.3
 55 VE Venezuela                      938    3  144  42.7   22.0
 56 MT Malta                           16    0    8  42.6    0.4
 57 SV El Salvador                    234    0   28  40.1    5.8
 58 BN Brunei                          12    0    7  40.0    0.3
 59 BR Brazil                        6474   59 1292  39.8  162.7
 60 SC Seychelles                       3    0    0  38.7    0.1
 61 RO Romania                        805   36  392  37.2   21.7
 62 MV Maldives                        10    0    1  36.9    0.3
 63 SK Slovakia                       197    1  127  36.7    5.4
 64 AR Argentina                     1109    6  302  32.0   34.7
 65 BZ Belize                           7    0    6  31.9    0.2
 66 TW Taiwan                         579    5  194  27.0   21.5
 67 LV Latvia                          66    0   46  26.7    2.5
 68 CL Chile                          380    6  144  26.5   14.3
 69 RE Reunion                         18    0    6  26.5    0.7
 70 MY Malaysia                       504    6  118  25.2   20.0
 71 TT Trinidad and Tobago             31    1    5  24.4    1.3
 72 ZA South Africa                  1004   10  428  24.1   41.7
 73 MX Mexico                        2257   18  401  23.6   95.8
 74 PR Puerto Rico                     90    0   20  23.6    3.8
 75 BS Bahamas                          6    0    2  23.1    0.3
 76 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.)            2    0    1  20.6    0.1
 77 AN Netherlands Antilles             4    0    1  19.1    0.2
 78 MP Northern Mariana Islands         1    0    1  19.1    0.1
 79 PA Panama                          47    0   17  17.7    2.7
 80 MH Marshall Islands                 1    0    0  17.1    0.1
 81 BH Bahrain                         10    0    5  16.9    0.6
 82 KW Kuwait                          30    0   11  15.4    2.0
 83 AG Antigua and Barbuda              1    0    2  15.2    0.1
 84 AW Aruba                            1    0    0  14.8    0.1
 85 AM Armenia                         51    0    8  14.7    3.5
 86 GP Guadeloupe                       6    0    5  14.7    0.4
 87 TR Turkey                         882    9  183  14.1   62.5
 88 MO Macau                            7    0    1  14.1    0.5
 89 PF French Polynesia                 3    0    4  13.3    0.2
 90 CO Colombia                       489    3  145  13.3   36.8
 91 RU Russia                        1929   34  733  13.0  148.2
 92 AE United Arab Emirates            39    1   15  12.8    3.1
 93 NA Namibia                         21    0   11  12.5    1.7
 94 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte   131    6   76  12.2   10.8
 95 DM Dominica                         1    0    0  12.1    0.1
 96 SR Suriname                         5    0    4  11.5    0.4
 97 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina          30    0    4  11.3    2.7
 98 TN Tunisia                        101    0   15  11.2    9.0
 99 QA Qatar                            6    1    3  11.0    0.5
100 PY Paraguay                        56    0   13  10.2    5.5
101 MQ Martinique                       4    0    2  10.0    0.4
102 UA Ukraine                        467   10  202   9.2   50.9
103 MU Mauritius                       10    0    3   8.8    1.1
104 VC Saint Vincent and the Grenad     1    0    0   8.4    0.1
105 MK Macedonia                       16    2    4   7.6    2.1
106 JP Japan                          937    6  284   7.5  125.4
107 CU Cuba                            81    6   19   7.4   11.0
108 ST Sao Tome and Principe            1    0    0   6.9    0.1
109 BO Bolivia                         48    0   11   6.7    7.2
110 BY Belarus                         69    5   27   6.6   10.4
111 LC Saint Lucia                      1    0    0   6.3    0.2
112 EC Ecuador                         69    0   15   6.0   11.5
113 MD Moldova                         26    0    8   5.8    4.5
114 PH Philippines                    430    4   81   5.8   74.5
115 VU Vanuatu                          1    0    3   5.6    0.2
116 LB Lebanon                         21    1    6   5.6    3.8
117 PE Peru                           123    0   28   5.0   24.5
118 JM Jamaica                         13    0    3   5.0    2.6
119 DO Dominican Republic              37    0   10   4.6    8.1
120 GT Guatemala                       46    0    9   4.1   11.3
121 BW Botswana                         6    0    3   4.1    1.5
122 TH Thailand                       238    3   83   4.0   58.9
123 HN Honduras                        21    0    7   3.7    5.6
124 CM Cameroon                        42    0    8   2.9   14.3
125 NI Nicaragua                       12    0    4   2.8    4.3
126 GY Guyana                           2    0    0   2.8    0.7
127 MN Mongolia                         7    0    5   2.8    2.5
128 OM Oman                             6    0    1   2.7    2.2
129 PS Palestine                        7    0    0   2.7    2.6
130 GA Gabon                            3    0    3   2.6    1.2
131 KZ Kazakhstan                      41    0   17   2.4   16.9
132 ID Indonesia                      478   34  150   2.3  206.6
133 JO Jordan                           9    0    3   2.1    4.2
134 SA Saudi Arabia                    28    0   10   1.4   19.4
135 LK Sri Lanka                       23    1    2   1.2   18.6
136 AL Albania                          4    1    4   1.2    3.2
137 ZM Zambia                          11    0    4   1.2    9.2
138 IN India                         1106   16  296   1.2  952.1
139 ZW Zimbabwe                        13    0    8   1.2   11.3
140 GE Georgia                          6    0   26   1.1    5.2
141 PG Papua New Guinea                 5    0    1   1.1    4.4
142 MA Morocco                         33    0   14   1.1   29.8
143 KG Kyrgyzstan                       5    0    2   1.1    4.5
144 CN China                         1310    4  232   1.1 1210.0
145 EG Egypt                           67    1    9   1.1   63.6
146 UZ Uzbekistan                      24    0    8   1.0   23.4
147 NP Nepal                           18    0    0   0.8   22.1
148 MG Madagascar                      11    0    4   0.8   13.7
149 DZ Algeria                         21    0    9   0.7   29.2
150 NE Niger                            6    0    0   0.7    9.1
151 PK Pakistan                        85    5   14   0.7  129.3
152 AZ Azerbaijan                       5    0    3   0.7    7.7
153 SL Sierra Leone                     3    0    1   0.6    4.8
154 IR Iran                            38    0   22   0.6   66.1
155 CI Cote d'Ivoire                    8    0    5   0.5   14.8
156 VN Vietnam                         34    0    4   0.5   74.0
157 SN Senegal                          4    0    0   0.4    9.1
158 MR Mauritania                       1    0    0   0.4    2.3
159 KE Kenya                           11    0    4   0.4   28.2
160 LY Libya                            2    0    1   0.4    5.4
161 MZ Mozambique                       6    0    2   0.3   17.9
162 CF Central African Republic         1    0    0   0.3    3.3
163 BD Bangladesh                      37    0    8   0.3  123.1
164 BF Burkina Faso                     3    0    1   0.3   10.6
165 KH Cambodia                         3    0    1   0.3   10.9
166 TM Turkmenistan                     1    0    1   0.2    4.1
167 TG Togo                             1    0    0   0.2    4.6
168 LA Laos                             1    0    1   0.2    5.0
169 TZ Tanzania                         5    0    0   0.2   29.1
170 RW Rwanda                           1    0    0   0.1    6.9
171 UG Uganda                           2    0    0   0.1   20.2
172 AO Angola                           1    0    0   0.1   10.3
173 ET Ethiopia                         3    0    0   0.1   57.2
174 XW The World (Somewhere in it)    257  207    1   0.0 5771.9
175 CD Democratic Congo                 2    0    0   0.0   46.5
176 SD Sudan                            1    0    0   0.0   31.5
177 NG Nigeria                          3    0    1   0.0  103.9
178 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands        1    0    1   0.0    0.0


WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place      Users Percent
==============================
school     30404  20.64%
home       130785  88.79%
not used      21   0.01%
work       62279  42.28%
somewhere   2874   1.95%
==============================
TOTAL      147303 100.00%

NOTE: The total is the 147303 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 226363


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nathan wagner)
Subject: Re: DNS problem(I think)
Date: 1 Jul 2000 00:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 30 Jun 2000 21:41:54 GMT,
valja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>My guess is that you don't have a default route set.
>>
>
>Probably default route is OK, because sites in domain fregates.be are 
>accesible. I think problem is in ISP: acces to sites (excluded ISP-s own sites) 
>is blocked (until registration or whatever they need).

Nope, the setup script probably created a route to the netblock
corresponding to the ip address set on the interface.  Which would allow for
access to sites at the ISP, but he would have no route to many other sites.

However, all this is just speculation.  If the OP could provide the output
of 'route -n' we would know.  Presumably though he has already solved his
problem.

-- 
Chance is irrelevant.  We will succeed.  -- Seven of Nine

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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet explorer for linux?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:16:58 -0500

The Linux mag. does have IE5 but it is a Windows version which they tell you
will run (poorly) in Wine. Dont bother to buy the magazine...but if you get
a chance, the PREVIOUS months mag was very good as it had Mandrake 7 in it.
Philo



Lars-Gunnar Hartveit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:B2975.4697$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Saw a linux magazine today (don't remember which) with a CD promising 12
> web-browsers for Linux. One of them was Internet Explorer ver 5. I've
never
> heard of Iexplorer for Linux. Have I missed something?????
>
> LarsG
>
>
>



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From: Johand Cruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet explorer for linux?
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 01:20:34 GMT



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 6/30/00, 3:11:15 PM, "Lars-Gunnar Hartveit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding Internet explorer for linux?:


> Saw a linux magazine today (don't remember which) with a CD promising =
12
> web-browsers for Linux. One of them was Internet Explorer ver 5. I've =

never
> heard of Iexplorer for Linux. Have I missed something?????

> LarsG

Internet Explorer was included  for people who has WINE running on their=
=20
Linux Box.

-JC

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: RealPlayer for Linux
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 07:58:06 +0700

I found them w/o problem.
It also has linux real producer beta that work great.
I produce .rm from linux real producer beta and put them on my web at

http://sss.agri.kps.ku.ac.th/karaoke/

Regards,
supat

=CA=D8=BE=D1=B5=C3=EC =BF=E9=D2=C3=D8=E8=A7=CA=D2=A7 (supat faarungsang)   =
 Kasetsart Univ., Nakorn Pathom,
Director of small ruminant research and development center
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  http://sss.agri.kps.ku.ac.th/
office: (034)351892  home: (034)351843                   fax: (02)5791120
mobile: (01)4127930                            lab:(034)281053-6 ext 3434
voicechat: http://supat.dhs.org/ttt.html            or http://go.to/supat
=A4=C7=D2=C1=B4=D5=A4=B9=E0=C3=D2=B9=D5=E8=B4=D5=E3=B4 =B4=D5=B9=D3=E9=E3=
=A8 =B7=D5=E8=E3=CB=E9=E1=A1=E8=A4=B9=B7=D1=E9=A7=BB=C7=A7                 =
         :)

On 30 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Philippe Cote) wrote in=20
> >>
> >>
> >>Does anybody know where I could download a recent=20
> >>Linux-compatible version of the RealAudio/Video=20
> >>player. Apparently, Real.com have made big changes
> >>to their site recently ( I have found various links
> >>to this site but they're all broken) and Linux
> >>products are nowhere to be found now.=20
>=20
> Hmmm ... if you know the magazine Maximum PC ... well, now there is
> Maximum Linux (June/July issue: $8.00). It has a CD. I haven't even opene=
d
> mine yet, but it says it has Macromedia Flash Player, Real Player,=20
> Star Office, WordPerfect 8, etc.
>=20
>=20


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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rebuilt kernel, can't find DAC960 module
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 01:51:44 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It's a 'block' driver, not a SCSI and yes you can.  Works fine.
> >
> 
> Yep, thanks, I found it and built it into the kernel, and it works
> great!
> 
> >
> > Only if you have modules and most of us do.  Should be obvious; they
> build
> > the modules and move them the /lib/modules.
> >
> 
> Now I've figured this out too.  Everything I list as a module in my
> config gets built in this /lib/modules tree.  Amazing :-)
> 
> >
> > You have to build the ramdisk file you referred to.  The easiest way
> is to
> > just build the DAC block device into the kernel so you don't need (and
> should
> > not use) the initrd= parameter.
> >
> > I suggest that you learn more about building a kernel before you try
> it.  Also,
> > always keep a spair kernel (/etc/lilo.conf) so if your new one craps,
> you can
> > recover.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Cokey
> >
> 
> Thanks for your help!  My new 2.2.16 kernel works great without any of
> that ramdisk stuff.  Fortunately this is kind of a "play with" box
> anyway, so I'm using it to learn how to do this stuff.  Is there any
> place you'd recommend to learn about kernel builds in addition to the
> kernel how-to?
> 
> Aaron
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I can't answer that...  I've just learned by the school of hard knocks!
;-)  I've got a 'mule' that I test things on and quite predictably screw
up regualarly.  Looks like you coming along nicely; keep up the good work.

Best

Cokey

-- 
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Cokey de Percin, DBA            Email:
Policy Management Systems Corp.  Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Columbia, South Carolina         Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Marshall)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to use tar with mulitple files...
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:39:51 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In alt.os.linux on Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:58:30 -0230, 
 Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>Let's say that I have a whole directory full of tarballs that I want to
>untar/gunzip with one recursive command...   I tried doing something
>like the 'tar xzf *.tar.gz', but tar isn't recursive in that effect... 
>I wish tar would except wildcards...!!!  I was also gonna try and write
<snip>
>Any and all help will be greatly appreciated...!!!  Thanks...

Looks like you got the help you needed :) Just thought I'd add
the reason why tar alone has problems with wildcards: it takes
the first file from "*.tar.gz" as the file to be untarred. All
arguments after that are assumed to be files you want extracted
_from within_ that first archive. The "for i in `foo`;do bar $i;done"
construct is very handy for situations like this (or, alternatively,
the use of xargs as suggested by one poster).

-- 
Slackware 7.0 Linux
  5:30pm  up 19:38,  5 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.01

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