Linux-Misc Digest #4, Volume #28 Fri, 1 Jun 01 17:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux (bgeer)
Re: SO5.2 file error (Kevin)
Re: The problem of a pager (Robert H. C. Ralston)
Need message forum that supports usenet news! (Chris Kaminski)
Re: linux (william)
Mail question (William Campbell)
Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux (Rick)
Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux (Rick)
Re: Help! VPN'ing through a Linux firewall? ("Dean Smith")
Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux (Rick)
Ksnuffle and KDE library conflict (Jason)
Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?] (Swapnil Bhatia)
Re: Mail question (Jerzy Wolinski)
killall with perl-scripts. how? ("Marc Beck")
Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?] (Bob Hauck)
Security issues (Victor Dods)
Re: ReiserFS irrecoverable defect after disk failure (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Linux IO issues ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bgeer)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot,alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: palm m505 & USB & Linux
Date: 1 Jun 2001 13:13:42 -0600
Ken Mankoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>nope, coldsync produces the same stuff that pilot-link does:
>errors reading /dev/ttyUSB1 if i have *not* hit the hotsync button. If i
>press the hotsync button, and then coldsync/pilot-link, i get this in
>/var/log/messages:
>kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/2, assigned device number 3
>kernel: usbserial.c: Generic converter detected
>kernel: usbserial.c: Generic converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> (or usb/tts/0 for devfs)
>kernel: usbserial.c: Generic converter now attached to ttyUSB1
> (or usb/tts/1 for devfs)
>/etc/hotplug/usb.agent: ... no drivers for USB product 830/2/100
>before this, I did the following:
>insmod usbcore
>insmod usb-uhci
>insmod usbserial vendor=0x830 product=0x2
Check out:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
& select USB to serial converters. This is Linux-USB device overview
page. In a nutshell, tho, the Palm USB [vendor 830] is listed as
"completely unsupported".
This page links to an email that indicates that Palm hasn't released
specs on its vendor-specific USB device. Maybe sending some email to
Palm might get them to release the spec so some real(tm) software can
be written for m505 hotstynk...:-)
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<> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | == == We feel enchanted! == == <>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SO5.2 file error
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:19:44 GMT
Yes, I ran 'soffice'. Sorry for the confusion. The command
in my earlier post came from the output of 'ps'.
Thanks...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You might get better results by executing 'soffice' wrapper script instead
> of the raw 'soffice.bin' binary. That is the usual way of starting
> staroffice.
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert H. C. Ralston)
Subject: Re: The problem of a pager
Date: 1 Jun 2001 19:18:08 GMT
In article <3b16b613$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Collin E Borrlewyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Besides this, I think you are thinking of "Grab title bar, drop on pager"
>whereas I am thinking of "Grab pager representation of window, move within
>pager".
The Enlightenment pager will indeed allow you to move windows between
desktops by clicking on the representation of that window in the pager and
moving it within the pager. I run Enlightenment with a 2x2 grid of
desktops myself.
--
Robert H.C. Ralston
University of Pittsburgh School of Law - 2L
Mailbox: 208 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Kaminski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need message forum that supports usenet news!
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:30:06 -0000
After an aggravating week of searching, I have almost given up looking for
a new message board / forum system for my web sites. I am looking for
something that can have local boards and then use a couple of Usenet
newsgroups as other boards. Anyone have any ideas? I have a dedicated
Cobalt RAQ 4i to run it so system requirements for just about anything
should be covered. Thanks!
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From: william <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:30:06 -0000
william wrote:
> I rec'd 15 replies about me knocking Linux and how hard it was for a
window user to install. Well, I go back 20 yrs in comp. I built My 1st
one on a modem discard and hand wired it. I used an IBM selectric
typewriter as an IO. My makeshift comp had 16k memory and that's it,
but it worked. Then I upgraded to build-yourself from store bought
parts. And then I was introduced to DOS.
The point I'm trying to make is Linux is 20 years behind because it's the
same as DOS and all it's stupid commands. Gates was the only one to
realize how dumb dos was,even tho he used it in his system.
I now have redhat 5.2 and I still can't install it, because when they
ask for a command (just like Dos) I don't know what to enter.
Thanks
> Does anyone out there know of a linux that is not made for nerds and
geeks?
> I've trying for a month to install corel and as a last resort zipslack.
> If linux is so great and powerful why hasen't some smart guy did what
gates
> did and start out with a Linux 1.0 like the win3.1 which was a piece of
> cake to install. Put the disks in drive a:\ and type setup.
> But no, they had to make hard so the comp geeks can have ball sitting in
> front of their comp for 12 hrs.
>
> I mean, is it such a big deal for all these comp buffs to make a simple
> Type a:\install or setup?
>
> All I hear about is what a great OS linux is. If somebody wanted to make
> gates squirm just a tiny bit why didn't they follow what he did and make
> it easy for the common folk to install Linux.
> Thank You
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: William Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail question
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:30:12 -0000
Can anyone please tell me how I can use the mail command to send myself a
message in a script. mail seems to require that you enter the body of the
message from the command line. I would like to be able to do it in a
script. Example: I create a script that will create a mail message to go
to me with a subject that is specified in the script and with a body that
comes from another file. If I was at the command prompt it could be done
like this:
# mail -s <subject> <mailaddress>
# ~r <file_containing_message>
# .
# **Here the systems asks for a cc and I just hit enter again**
I guess what I need is for the mail command to return the control to the
script instead of to the terminal (which is what it is doing).
If any one can help me, I would appreciate it!
Thanks and God bless,
William
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:36:39 -0400
Dan Smith wrote:
>
> When you get bellsouth DSL, make SURE you get the ethernet modem, not
> the PCI or USB one. They are reluctant to hand them over (they like
> the usb ones cause they're easy). Get an ethernet one, then download
> roaring pengium (www.roaringpenguin.com I think). Pretty simple from
> there.
>
> --Dan
Thanks for the info.
--
Rick
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:39:57 -0400
I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
>
> On 01 Jun 2001 08:34:09 -0400,
> Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> + When you get bellsouth DSL, make SURE you get the ethernet modem, not
> + the PCI or USB one. They are reluctant to hand them over (they like
> + the usb ones cause they're easy).
>
> Oh, that's easy. Tell 'em you've got NT, and don't want another PCI
> card...
>
> James
Thanks for the info.
--
Rick
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From: "Dean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help! VPN'ing through a Linux firewall?
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:38:30 GMT
I am not 100% sure of this, but I seem to remember having a problem like
this with Cisco IPSec, the upshot was that you can't NAT/Masquerade IPSec
packets, it's part of the IPSec spec.
Dean
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Dean Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Reuben King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The whole IPChains thing mystifies me.. managed to get it working on a
> basic level by using the HOWTO's.. Now I'm trying to VPN in to work and
> my VPN client refuses to connect to the server. I can ping the server
> fine. Others use it without problem.
>
> My network is set up using IP masquerading through a cable modem. I
> don't have any problems with any other IP services but from what I
> understand VPN and IPsec are a bit tricker than your standard TCP
> service.
>
> Any advice and help would be most appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> -Reuben
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: BellSouth DSL vs Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:42:33 -0400
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick wrote:
>
> >Is anyone using Linux with Bellsouth's DSL service. I am
> >holding off getting DSL, becasue I want to be able to use it
> >under MacOS and Linux (Intel & PPC).
> >
> >Any info (including on how to set up Linux to use DSL) is
> >greatly appreciated. I have NO experience with connecting Linux
> >through ethernet.
>
> Just tell them you want an external, Ethernet modem. In some
> places that costs more because they have to allocate 24/7
> bandwidth. Ethernet modems stay connected all the time. The
> internal PCI modems get disconnected every few hours and PC
> software has to make them reconnect -- possibly with a
> different IP address.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards grante Yow! .. I
Thanks for the info.
--
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason)
Subject: Ksnuffle and KDE library conflict
Date: 1 Jun 2001 12:41:10 -0700
Here is a description of the problem
I am running the following versions:
redhat 7.1
tcpdump 3.4-39
libpcap 0.4-19
ksnuffle 2.1-3
kdelibs 2.1.1-5
After following the instructions to set UID here is the result. When I
try to run ksnuffle under another user I receive this error message:
"The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges."
I am a beginning Linux user and if this is a simple problem please
excuse my ignorance.
Thank you,
Jason
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From: Swapnil Bhatia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?]
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:41:33 -0400
"Brian V. Smith" wrote:
>
> In article <LuuR6.242965$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Murrell"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |> > How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
> |> > Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
> |>
> |> It gets applied directly at the time of purchase.
>
> I think he means at the other end - who gets how much from the levy?
> Which artists? How do they apportion it?
>
> |> > Where does the levy taxes exactly go?
> |>
> |> Who knows? :-)
>
> That's for sure :-) And, I think that was his first question.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
> Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
>
> To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
> glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is too small
> for a decent safety factor.
May be, artists pay less in taxes. So if a really 'hot' artist puts out
a CD that sells millions, he makes millions. But since there must be
people burning his CD, he pays less tax on the millions that he earns
from his sales .... ? Thats just a wild guess of mine... :)
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From: Jerzy Wolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail question
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 21:51:56 +0200
William Campbell wrote:
> # mail -s <subject> <mailaddress>
> # ~r <file_containing_message>
> # .
> # **Here the systems asks for a cc and I just hit enter again**
>
> I guess what I need is for the mail command to return the control to the
> script instead of to the terminal (which is what it is doing).
some_commands_writting_to_mail_body_file
mail -s subject mailaddress <mail_body_file_name
--
Jerzy Wolinski
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From: "Marc Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: killall with perl-scripts. how?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:18:13 +0200
Hello,
I'm running a perl-script /home/user/bin/test_kill/test_kill.pl.
When I try to kill it with the killall command like that:
killall test_kill.pl
or killall /home/user/bin/test_kill/test_kill.pl
killall always reports that no process was killed. How can I kill that
script?
cu Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Copying levy [WAS Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?]
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:28:48 GMT
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:41:33 -0400, Swapnil Bhatia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > |> > How do they actually apply this levy? I mean, how do they know Mr Joe
> > |> > Blow is making copies of linda ronstadt or ugly kid joe?
> May be, artists pay less in taxes.
It is mainly the record companies, not the artists, who are concerned
about home taping and who are willing to spend money to lobby for silly
laws to protect their profits. So I think it is obvious that that
record companies split the take from the tax and don't bother giving
any of it to artists.
I hope I'm wrong, but am not betting on it.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: Victor Dods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Security issues
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:33:04 -0700
Is there a good comprehensive online information source for linux
security? I've just set up my computer with telnetd and wu-ftpd, and
now I'm concerned about security.
Thanks
Victor Dods
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: ReiserFS irrecoverable defect after disk failure
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:42:48 GMT
Ingo Struewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Perhaps I've been hit by one of the heaviest ReiserFS problems.
>
>After months of flawless operation under SuSE 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16),
>my IDE disk spat I/O errors within a 9GB partition contining a
>ReiserFS.
>
>The I/O errors may be the reason for a system hang-up. The reboot
>failed due to the unmountable root filesystem.
>
>Booting a rescue system, reiserfsck succeded with log-replay but
>terminated due to the I/O errors regardless of the options applied.
>
>To work around the I/O errors, I copied the disk contents to a new
>disk, using dd in three phases: from beginning of disk until I/O error,
>then filling the locations of the defective sectors from /dev/zero,
>and lastly from behind the defect until the end of disk. I did use
>the requred seek= and skip= options, I think.
>
>On the new disk, as expected, reiserfsck did no longer fail on I/O
>errors. After the log replay it simply complained that there is no
>ReiserFS structure! (And it was not as ext2 or other filesystem).
>I verified the copy operation by comparing the 256 first sectors
>of the partiton and some randomly choosen locations between the
>two disks (again by using dd with seek= into temporary files).
>
>The exact location of the defective sectors is sector 128 an 129
>(counting 512-byte sectors beginning from zero, which is a part of
>block 16 when counting in 4kB block beginning at zero).
>This is measured from the beginning of the partition.
>Dd did not find other defects on the disk.
>
>Obviuosly ReiserFS does store essential information at this
>position and does not mirror it elsewhere in the partition.
>Perhaps kind of a superblock that is stored only once.
>
>If this is true, I think of it as a major design failure.
>This filesystem type should not be used on productive systems.
>
>Ingo
Sector 128 contains the super block of the partition. In a reiserfs
-v1 partition I have, there seems to be a block of 5 sectors at that
location containing some data.
In the beginning of the partition I found these 5 sectors exactly
repeated two times. These block were exactly the same, and there also
were copies with some fields different. I cannot give you any details
now, but there seem to be something to work with.
--
Svend Olaf
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:51:14 +0200
william <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> william wrote:
>> I rec'd 15 replies about me knocking Linux and how hard it was for a
> window user to install. Well, I go back 20 yrs in comp. I built My 1st
Well, so do I, and I say linux is easy to install. After all, it only
took me a couple of weeks the first time about 8 years ago. And about
15 years ago it took me just that long to install sunOs. It took me
about 6 months to design and build my first computer, and I never
made much progress in programming it, as I had to program in machine code,
blowing the EPROM with 15ms reverse voltage overloads. But I STILL
can't install windowwz. It's got a mind of its own. There's always some
bit of hardware it can't understand and no way of controlling the
process. But of course, under linux, it's all transparant, and I
have no trouble.
How much did they pay you for this piece of lying? You must know
perfectly well that anyone capable of building their own computer
would delight in linux, and have zero trouble!
> one on a modem discard and hand wired it. I used an IBM selectric
> typewriter as an IO. My makeshift comp had 16k memory and that's it,
Oh, I never had a typewriter. I threw dipswitches with a ball point.
The LED display scanned the output buffer at a fixed rate :-).
> but it worked. Then I upgraded to build-yourself from store bought
I never used a storebuilt design. I got bored with programming for
about ten years after that, while I went to university and got a
doctorate. In the doctorate, I touched a computer again, and afterwards
in the first postdoc I received the Sun, and wrote a computer language.
Then I wrote some more, and developed some theory. I had to suffer
the incapabilities of windows when computers came down in price enough
to buy, and when linux appeared I yelled with delight and installed it
on my 386sx 16MHz with 3MB ram. At last! Real computing!
> parts. And then I was introduced to DOS.
> The point I'm trying to make is Linux is 20 years behind because it's the
> same as DOS and all it's stupid commands. Gates was the only one to
You are obviously a troll. In the first place it's all
very useful commands plus a slightly useful GUI. "Commands",
as you call them, are called "language". You talk to your computer
in that language. Instead of grunting helplessly at it.
> I now have redhat 5.2 and I still can't install it, because when they
> ask for a command (just like Dos) I don't know what to enter.
Do you have a mental problem? My command of language extends to four
human languages spoken fluently, each with a vocabulary of several
thousands of common words, and maybe 20 computer languages, each with
a vocabulary of tens to hundreds of words. I have apparently only one
neural net for latin languages - because I can't speak two of them
simultaneously; I have to retrain the net - but apparently one neural
net for each of the others, and I imagine one net for imperative
computer languages, and another for declarative ones. There's plenty
of neural capacity left over. No, I have no trouble using the trivial
amount of language needed to make myself understood to a computer. Nor
do you. If you are capable of doing more than grunting!
>> I mean, is it such a big deal for all these comp buffs to make a simple
>> Type a:\install or setup?
You know perfectly well that that's what you executed, and secondly,
no, it couldn't work, because authors of computer programs are
possessed of psychic powers, and therefore your redhat 5.2 authors
of four years ago didn't write the routines to deal with your hardware of
today. Mind you, all the RH's I've ever tried have had huge ginourmous
bugs in their install routines, so much so that I've always wondered
how a nonexpert could ever install them! I've never used the redhat
install to completion (and I can't stand redhat).
Next time try using the technical capacities you are so proud of. If you
want to have fun, I suggest you try installing vanilla windows 95 on a
laptop bought yesterday. That should keep you busy for the forseeable
future.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux IO issues
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:55:16 +0200
Shirish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does Linux have an IO scalability issue. We here have 25 drives attached to
> a server with two fibre controller cards. The max thruput we can arrive at
> is around 40MB/s, thats like 5% PCI efficiency. If I have the same
Eh? That's about 30% PCI efficiency, sureely? 33MHz bus, 32bits wide,
that's 133MB/s max.
> configuration under windows, I can easily do 250~300MB/s using the same HW
> configuration. Any clues!!
Well, obviously windows isn't using the PCI bus! :-). That should be
enough of a lead for you.
You're the expert, you do the measurements. I'm not going to tell you
your job .. but a sane person would try varying the parameters to see
what affected what. I'd try one board and one disk, and measure that.
Then I'd flesh out the data from teher. That should tell you what's up.
Peter
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