Linux-Misc Digest #4, Volume #26                 Wed, 11 Oct 00 08:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Disk information (Tyler Larson)
  Re: ext2 file size limit? (Andreas Jaeger)
  Re: Disk information (Martijn Brouwer)
  Re: Linux on hard disk larger than 8.4 gb? (Eric)
  MP3 decoder-encoder ("Ali")
  Re: MP3 decoder-encoder (Eric)
  copy orders ("Alexander Hoisl")
  Re: GRUB ??? (Raymond Laia)
  Pb with mandrake 7.1 Install DPT SCSI card (jean christophe godefroy)
  Re: copy orders (Andreas K�h�ri)
  Re: Redhat 7 won't run quake/quake2 (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: deleted /var/log/messages and it doesn't reappear (Bjoern)
  exportfs command not working? (archanas)
  Java Applets on Embeded Linux (Phillip Turner)
  Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images ("Weedle Fidbaum")
  two tiny questions (Christian Wenz)
  Unable to handle kernel paging request (Michal Szymanski)
  Re: two tiny questions (Martijn Brouwer)
  Problem with a PCMCIA CardBus (Jose Gomez en STA)
  Re: two tiny questions (Black Dragon)
  Re: MP3 decoder-encoder (Andrew Pritchard)
  Re: two tiny questions (Michael Schaefer)
  Re: Best way to backup? (Eric)
  Re: Optimizing compilation (Martin Herrman)
  Re: Optimizing compilation (Martin Herrman)

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From: Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk information
Date: 11 Oct 2000 07:12:23 GMT

I'm looking for a linux program that resembles the windows application
diskdata [http://www.digallery.com/diskdata/default.htm]

In a nutshell, the app allows you to see where your disk space is being
used.  It tells you (amoung other things) for a given directory, how
much disk space is being used by the files in that directory and all its
subdirectories, allowing you to "drill-down" on a particular directory
and see how the disk consumption breaks down on its particular 
subdirectories, etc.

It's nothing to exciting, but it's useful when you're dealing with
limited disk space. 

-- 
-Tyler

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From: Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ext2 file size limit?
Date: 11 Oct 2000 09:36:40 +0200

>>>>> jdavida  writes:

 > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 >   Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>> jdavida  writes:
>> 
>> >    I am runnign Linux 2.4 and it supports
>> >    files > 2GB. See /usr/include/bits/stat.h
>> >    and look at struct stat64, which supports file size
>> >    up to 1 TB (always half of max filesystem size), because
>> >    file size is a signed data type.
>> >    You will have to define
>> >    __USE_LARGEFILE64 when you create the file with
>> Check <features.h> - __USE_LARGEFILE64 cannot be defined by user
>> space


 >      Correct. You should define
 > #define  _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE    1
 >      instead. This define should come before
 >      including the header files. This will
 >      enable the use of large files greater than
 >      2 Gig. Unfortunately, user commands and utils
 >      like ls(1) and stat(1) will not work: See the
 >      following:
 > # ls -l
 > /bin/ls: BIG4GIG: Value too large for defined data type
 > /bin/ls: BIG4GIG2: Value too large for defined data type
 > total 0

 >      Both of these files are 4gigabytes large!!
 >      I created them by a simple program that
 >      wrote a large buffer to the file in a loop
 >      that brought the size to 4 gig, and exited
 >      normally.

Recompile those tools after you installed a glibc that understands LFS
- it works fine for me with fileutils 4.0.

Andreas
-- 
 Andreas Jaeger
  SuSE Labs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   private [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    http://www.suse.de/~aj

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Disk information
Date: 11 Oct 2000 07:42:46 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tyler Larson) wrote in <8s13sn$hfl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>In a nutshell, the app allows you to see where your disk space is being
>used.  It tells you (amoung other things) for a given directory, how
>much disk space is being used by the files in that directory and all its
>subdirectories, allowing you to "drill-down" on a particular directory
>and see how the disk consumption breaks down on its particular 
>subdirectories, etc.
>
Just try the command 'du', which is probably available on your system.


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Martijn Brouwer        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on hard disk larger than 8.4 gb?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:55:49 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've looked in the forums and can't find this
> answer, although I'm sure it's here somewhere...
> 
> I have a 15.3 gb drive and want to install Linux
> on it.  I would like to have a 4 gb root
> partition and at least 3 other partitions.  My
> computer only recognizes up to 8.4gb.  When I try
> to install the overlay software (EZ Drive for
> Western Digital), it asks me for the diskette of
> my OS.  What can I do?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Ignore it.
Try to install linux, it doesn't trust the BIOS anyway, so linux will
detect the HDD size on it's own (and correctly)

Eric

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From: "Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: MP3 decoder-encoder
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:20:40 +0100

I`m a looking for an  MP3 decoder-encoder, can someone recommend one. I
would like one with GUI and easy enough to configure. I`ve used audiograbber
for use in windows so something along these lines would be great.

TIA

Ali



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MP3 decoder-encoder
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:41:50 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ali wrote:
> 
> I`m a looking for an  MP3 decoder-encoder, can someone recommend one. I
> would like one with GUI and easy enough to configure. I`ve used audiograbber
> for use in windows so something along these lines would be great.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Ali

search freshmeat.net for cd-rippers and mp3 encoders/decoders
I use bladeenc for mp3 encoding, xmms to playback, and cdparanoia for
getting tracks of the cd. But there are many other options.

Eric

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From: "Alexander Hoisl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: copy orders
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:34:11 +0200

i'm a linux novice and don't know how to copy orders. can somebody help me?

thx
alex



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From: Raymond Laia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: GRUB ???
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:25:22 +0200

Martin Racette wrote:
> 
> I have installed Mandrake 7.1 and it use GRUB by default, but now I have
> to re-install Windows98, but everytime I do this I need to reconstruct
> the MBR, but when I use DRAKCONF, it install LILO instead of GRUB, and I
> would like to know how do I install GRUB, without having to use the
> Mandrake's CDs, and do an UPDATE, to re-install GRUB

Go to directory /boot/grub and run the command: sh install.sh
The file install.sh should be in the directory.
If necessary you can first edit the file menu.lst.

Raymond
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From: jean christophe godefroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pb with mandrake 7.1 Install DPT SCSI card
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:55:47 +0200

Hi,

I tried to aet up a linux box with mandrake 7.1 but i am not able to set
my dpt scsi card
so i can not perfor install.
According to their site i should use EATA drivers but when I try
autoprobe with this driver 
it dos not work.
Does anybody know the parameter i should pass to the module in order to
make it work ?
Thank in advance
--
Jean Christophe Godefroy

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Subject: Re: copy orders
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Oct 2000 11:26:03 +0100

In article <8s18h1$a17$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexander Hoisl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i'm a linux novice and don't know how to copy orders. can somebody help me?
>
>thx
>alex
>
>


What is an "order"? From where and to where do you want to copy it?

Use the 'cp' command to copy files. Use the 'mv' command to move (or
rename) files. Use the 'man' command to read the manual for any
command (e.g. "man cp").

/A


-- 
Andreas K�h�ri, 
Uppsala University, Sweden.
=============================={ "free", as in "software" --> www.gnu.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Redhat 7 won't run quake/quake2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:30:22 GMT

[ FUP c.o.l.m ]

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 18:26:19 GMT, Paavo Leinonen wrote:

> I've got a strange proglem since I installed RedHat 7.0, with 6.2
> quake and quake2 run fine, but now I cannot start those any more.
> 
> And what is weird, the shells complains that "no such file" but
> the executable is there, some programs (like file) do recocnise
> it and some others (like ldd) don't.
> [ ... ]

Looks like you're trying to run a glibc2 binary on a libc5-only system.

Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjoern)
Subject: Re: deleted /var/log/messages and it doesn't reappear
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:54:36 GMT

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:46:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjoern)
wrote:
Thanks all for the help, that was really quick! I guess I panicked too
soon...


Bjoern

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From: archanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: exportfs command not working?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:30:05 -0000

I am using Red Hat Linux 6.1 (ver is 2.2.12-20 smp) on dell machines. 
I try to share /mnt directory to the world.
#exportfs :/mnt 

#exportfs
< does not show anything>

I have to run rpc.moutd to get the change reflected in exportfs output 
(inspite of mound is running already).
#rpc.moutd

#exportfs 
/mnt <world>

Does anybody know, how to avoid runnng mountd, so that I can see
the exported directories immediately, using exportfs command itself?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Turner)
Subject: Java Applets on Embeded Linux
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:41:54 GMT

I am about to begin development of an application for an in-house
embeded system. I need to know if Java applets are supported in a
browser for embeded Linux.
I know that the IE browser for WinCE 3.0 does not support applets so
Linux is currently under investigation.



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From: "Weedle Fidbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:51:41 +0200

A very easy way to check is to put vga=ask in the lilo.conf file.
That way, you can scan for all your valid values when linux starts up.

G'luck!

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JC Vollmer wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone.
> > Can someone tell me what would be the valid settings for vga= in
> > /etc/lilo.conf.  What are the different tux images/resolutions
available?
> >
> > --
> >        JC VOLLMER  TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD    DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
> >    [EMAIL PROTECTED]  SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK  DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
> > CONSOLIDATED LINT  IGNORE FULLWISE               DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
>
> you have to use framebuffer instead of svga... read in
> /usr/src/linux/documentation/fb
> --
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>
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From: Christian Wenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: two tiny questions
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:19:19 +0200

after upgrading my system to kernel 2.2.16 i found in my /etc/fstab this
line:
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
is this correct ??? i mentioned that previously this line looks like:
/proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
whats the differnts or what is rigth ??

second question, i found under /proc very big sized files
 /proc/kcore and /proc/kcore_elf
whats the purpose of these files ???



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Szymanski)
Subject: Unable to handle kernel paging request
Date: 11 Oct 2000 11:24:40 GMT

Hi all,

For some time now, one of my Linux PCs (AMD K6-350, RedHat 5.2 with
kernel upgraded to 2.2.1 and NFS running in kernel-space) started to
produce following messages (as seen in 'dmesg'):

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address c8642170
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU:    0
EIP:    0010:[<c8642170>]
EFLAGS: 00010206
eax: 00000018   ebx: c55a5e68   ecx: 00000018   edx: 00000000
esi: c5cc9508   edi: c57f0cc4   ebp: 00000000   esp: c55a5db8
ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Process nfsd (pid: 291, process nr: 21, stackpage=c55a5000)
Stack: c57f0cc4 c5604e80 c016122b 00000053 00000015 00000000 00000000
...

After that, 'rpc.nfsd' disappears and cannot be restarted. Other than
that, the machine is working (of course with no NFS access from
outside). Worse is that it can't be rebooted smoothly - the reboot
process hangs on "Shutting down NFS" or, if I disable shutting
down NFS services, on "Stopping portmap". The only way is to
do a hard reset or power off/on. 

When booting again, I often have to manually fsck the files systems
because the fsck fails or one or more partitions saying that
it got Signal 11 (strange!).

Is this a sign of hardware problems? Memory? CPU? Or rather I should
upgrade the OS/kernel. For a year or so the machine was working fine,
so apparently something broke at some moment, but I have no idea what.

any hints would be appreciated

regards, Michal.

-- 
  Michal Szymanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: two tiny questions
Date: 11 Oct 2000 11:33:12 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Wenz) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>after upgrading my system to kernel 2.2.16 i found in my /etc/fstab this
>line:
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>is this correct ??? i mentioned that previously this line looks like:
>/proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
>whats the differnts or what is rigth ??

I suppose this is one of the difference between your old and your new 
kernel. Check the docs of your new kernel

>second question, i found under /proc very big sized files
> /proc/kcore and /proc/kcore_elf
>whats the purpose of these files ???

These are images of your memory. /proc is a virtual filesystem so it does 
not use any diskspace.

Bye,

______________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jose Gomez en STA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with a PCMCIA CardBus
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:54:52 +0200

I have installed on my laptop with a pcmcia cardbus O2 Micro 6872, SUSE
Linux 6.4 with kernel 2.2.14, when I try to load the module i82365 after
pcmcia_core the system became blocked, have I to load these modules with
some paramameters?

Thaks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: two tiny questions
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:36:14 GMT

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:19:19 +0200 in alt.os.linux,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Christian Wenz' said:


>after upgrading my system to kernel 2.2.16 i found in my /etc/fstab this
>line:
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>is this correct ??? i mentioned that previously this line looks like:
>/proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
>whats the differnts or what is rigth ??
>
>second question, i found under /proc very big sized files
> /proc/kcore and /proc/kcore_elf
>whats the purpose of these files ???

/proc is a pseudo file-system which is used by the kernel. Your fstab entry
for /proc should look like this:

none     /proc     proc     defaults     0 0 

See "man proc" for more information. The answer to your question about 
/proc/kcore is in there.    

-- 
Black Dragon

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From: Andrew Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MP3 decoder-encoder
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:31:43 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ali wrote:
> >
> > I`m a looking for an  MP3 decoder-encoder, can someone recommend
one. I
> > would like one with GUI and easy enough to configure. I`ve used
audiograbber
> > for use in windows so something along these lines would be great.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Ali
>
> search freshmeat.net for cd-rippers and mp3 encoders/decoders
> I use bladeenc for mp3 encoding, xmms to playback, and cdparanoia for
> getting tracks of the cd. But there are many other options.

I used abcde (A Better Cd Encoder) which unfortunately is command line.
It strings together a number of apps into a shell script (I think) which
goes out to the Net to download the CDDB information using wget (an
application I recommend you have anyway for it's general usefulness) and
then CDparanoia to rip the WAV files off the CD and then LAME (I think)
to encode them to MP3s. Takes about 3/4hour to an hour per CD on a P3
600. I too use Xmms to playback the MP3s.


Andrew
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Before you buy.

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From: Michael Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: two tiny questions
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:26:25 +0200

Hello Christian,

I think the value is ok. My fstab shows the same and it's working fine...

Christian Wenz wrote:

> after upgrading my system to kernel 2.2.16 i found in my /etc/fstab this
> line:
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> is this correct ??? i mentioned that previously this line looks like:
> /proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> whats the differnts or what is rigth ??
>
> second question, i found under /proc very big sized files
>  /proc/kcore and /proc/kcore_elf
> whats the purpose of these files ???


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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best way to backup?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:50:52 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

E J wrote:
> 
> For usual backup, I use tar and copy the tarball onto CD.
> tar cvfz /backup/some_backup.tar.gz  /some_directory_under_root
>                    or
> tar cvf /bakcup/some_backup.tar /some_directory_under_root
> gzip /backup/some_backup.tar
> 
> Some things to note:  tar can only handle upto 2 G files (the problem is
> with ext2)

Not True, the problem is with the intel architecture, which is a 32 bit
platform (use lfs (IIRC) to circumvent the problems with this) You may
need to recompile a lot of tools if you want to make this work correctly

Eric

> On really big directorys, creating tar ball gives you broken pipes or core
> dumps.
> 
> Network backup, you should consider using amanda
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Until I install a tape drive or backup unit, I'm looking for a way to
> > backup the entire linux root partition on a regular basis to a local
> > disk or maybe to a network share. Does anyone know of a good *safe* way
> > to do this?  I'm thinking I can tar it up, but don't know the best
> > parameters. Could i use cpio?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Optimizing compilation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:54:11 +0200

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:33:55 GMT, Stewart Honsberger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >CFLAGS=-O3 -mcpu=i686 -march=i686
> >CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS
> >EXPORT CFLAGS CXXFLAGS
> 
> Where would one find a listing of the supported architectures? (man, HOWTO,
> etc.. would be perfect).
> 
> I, for example, run a K6-2, but hope to shortly upgrade to an Athlon
> (pardon me; Thunderbird).

man gcc

> Just out of curiosity; how does one go about making Slrn execute a command/
> script to create the sig file?

1. make a script that sends this to a file, using 'echo' etc.
2. run crond so every 5 minutes the file will be updated
3. let slrn pick the file as signature

> 
> >Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
> 
> ROTFL!

I'm serious! :-) I took this from a band called 'De Heideroosjes' 
(www.heideroosjes.com), it's the title of one of their songs. But
later I heard that Ghandi said this once.


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1:50pm up 8:26, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Optimizing compilation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:55:49 +0200

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:48:13 GMT, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> >Where would one find a listing of the supported architectures? (man,
> >HOWTO, etc.. would be perfect).
> 

I heard kernel 2.4.x had some AMD optimizations?

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