Linux-Misc Digest #185, Volume #25               Thu, 20 Jul 00 09:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Filesystem always reported as 100% full (Miroslaw Kwasniak)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Richard Watson)
  Re: Mandrake stuck in x terminal (user error probably) ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Starting X @ boot? (Jeff Howard)
  Re: non-English letters in xterm (Stefano Ghirlanda)
  How do I restrict user processes on Linux ("TeohST")
  color in emacs (Stefano Ghirlanda)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ("Ashley McConnell")
  Re: Help on tar.gz (Sid Thomas)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Rasputin)
  Re: Help on tar.gz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Howto run 2.4* kernel? (ray)
  Re: WebTV (Andrew Purugganan)
  OH NO Abandoning Linux for WinCE?! (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: RedHat and /etc/issue.net (Andrew Purugganan)
  free linux shell and more ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: newbie question - Linux kernel (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: non-English letters in xterm (Oystein Viggen)
  SERVERS ("Simon")
  Re: printing differences (Maik unruh)
  Re: RedHat Apache Web Server with perl (Rasputin)
  Re: Action Tec 56K call waiting modem (gLiTcH)
  Re: squid configuration ("Mike Redrobe")
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Jon Beckett)

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From: Miroslaw Kwasniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Filesystem always reported as 100% full
Date: 20 Jul 2000 08:17:07 GMT

Sam Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SJ>Hello
SJ>
SJ>I'm using SUSE 6.4 and I'm having problems with one of my
SJ>filesystems. It's always 100% full (according to 'df'), regardless how
SJ>many files are deleted. I'm sure that this must be an error, but I
SJ>have absolutely no idea how to correct it. As far as I remember even
SJ>running 'fsck' did not change anything. I am slowly getting troubles
SJ>with different applications, for example some of my Java apps refuse
SJ>to write to files anymore. Here is the output of 'df':
SJ>
SJ>Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
SJ>/dev/hda3              3927769   3821206         0 100% /
SJ>/dev/hda1                 7496      3019      4077  43% /boot
SJ>/dev/hdc                116654    116654         0 100% /cdrom
SJ>
SJ>Thanks in advance for any ideas. If possible please include my
SJ>email address in the recipient-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Some of space in ext2 (usually 5%) is reserved for root use.
When your usage will be below 3731381 (=0.95*3927769) you get space for
non-root.


Mirek

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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: 20 Jul 2000 09:10:15 +0100

"Gordon McLachlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Linux is not an acceptable desktop operating system. It is useful as a web
> server OS,

How little you know. Only web server? What about mail, news, print or
anything else server you want?

> but other than that it is an oddity, much like those who hype it
> excessively.

Bah. Are you trolling or something?

While I disagree with any kind of hype to say that it's not an
"acceptable desktop operating system" just isn't true.

If it were true how would I manage to run my company with it? In your
infinite wisdom you might like to enlighten me on what I'm missing out
on.


-- 
Richard Watson          email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Pentagon Web Design Ltd     Fax: +44(0)870 706 5282
Reading UK                   Reg. Linux User 183315 
                                      ICQ: 65274884
 

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake stuck in x terminal (user error probably)
Date: 20 Jul 2000 09:50:50 GMT

Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>I guess I didn't word that the way I meant.  When i login to Linux, it 
:>does go to a window on the gui called "X term". I do not know how to get 
:>to the KDE from there.  Even when I select KDE for session type at login.
:>Possible swap size problem?

: Doubt it. So yuo are starting X OK, and trapped in an xterm?

: What happens if you type kfm at the prompt?

Or "startkde", for that matter.

The answer to this guy is probably: install kde. Then you may have a
chance of running it. Next time don't choose "server install".


Peter

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From: Jeff Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Starting X @ boot?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 03:12:29 -0600

You sound very desparate for help so I'll put in my 2 cents worth --btw,
already downed 4 brews ;-)
First, a quick lesson on how your linux system boots.... When your machine
boots into linux, system checks are made, hardware configured, blah, blah,
blah.  But most important, the system looks for the file /etc/inittab.  This
is a very important file because it starts all your services and daemons
(including X).  If this file is not present, the system won't boot.  End of
lesson (I hope you now realize how important this file is).

>From what I've read so far, I'm going to go through the process of
elimination.
1.  You said you used to be able to boot into X, but then one day it didn't.
--This tells me that /etc/inittab file was somehow modified.
2.   You say you modified the /etc/inittab line to  id:5:initdefault:  so
that it boots to runlevel 5 but you still get a terminal log in screen.
-- This tells me that /etc/inittab file has something missing
3.  You say that when you login, and you type startx that all is well.
-- This tells me that /etc/inittab file may have a line missing.

Yes, the other people gave you the correct advice about the the line in
/etc/inittab that reads...
id:5:initdefault
to boot into runlevel 5.
Make sure the very last line of /etc/inittab file looks like this...
x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon

If this don't work, you have a corrupt system and should reinstall.
cul8er, Jeff

P.S. why on earth did you change your video driver, when it was already
working???  Most ATI boards use the Mach64 chipset , not SVGA

>


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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:17:29 +0200


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas LS) writes:

> set meta-flag on
> set convert-meta off
> set input-meta on
> set output-meta on

using these works, yes! I also have LC_ALL=sv_SE for Swedish now.

> With a french keyborad:
> �= altrgr + shift + a

I know have the ��� keys on thekeyboard working directly, so I don't need
any other key. But I do get alt + d = � in the shell, which I would like to
have as word-delete, which I think is the default for the readline library
used by bash. Any hint on how to have it back?

Merci,
Stefano

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From: "TeohST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "TeohST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I restrict user processes on Linux
Date: 20 Jul 2000 18:01:55 +0800


On Solaris, one can always specify in /etc/system to limit a user's processes to a 
maxnumber by using statement such as:
set maxuprc=30.

How to do likewise in Linux Redhat 6.2 ?

Also, how does one make sure that all YP client's timestamp is identical as their yp 
server ?


Thanks and am grateful for any help.
ST.


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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: color in emacs
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:57:34 +0200

Hi,
I would like to know if emacs can display color in the linux console.
I could not find any info on this in the emacs info files...
Thanks for your help,
Stefano

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From: "Ashley McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:13:29 +0100

Bruce,

I would watch yourself, they are very devoted...some of them are nuts!  One
wrong word about that 'L' OS and they could arrive at your door with big
sticks :)

Tread Carefully......I am scared even typing this ;)

Ash


| No...he's one of a band of people who believe that Linux will one day
become
| the pre-eminent operating system.
|
| They are a little like Mac owners: very, very devoted to their cause.
|
| --
| Regards,
| Bruce Kennewell,
| Canberra, Australia.
| ---------------------------




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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:58:36 -0400
From: Sid Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.misc,linux.help,alt.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help on tar.gz

Daniel wrote:

> I tried to install a few software with extension tar.gz, I follow the
> instruction lthings like ./configure and install etc...
> Most of them don't get to install.
> Do I have to unpack these files to a speciify directory??
>
> Thank you

You can use 'gunzip' then 'tar' commands. Read the 'man' pages on each
before using. Most of time the files are packed with a directory
stucture, It just depends on who packed them.

Note:  There is an option for the 'tar' command that will unzip the file
first so you wont have to use the 'gunzip'.

Sid


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:31:28 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Richard Watson> wrote:

>
>> but other than that it is an oddity, much like those who hype it
>> excessively.

>Bah. Are you trolling or something?

No, he's been crossposted to. Let's pack this in.
Anyone wants a flamewar, meet out the back of alt.os.linux after work..

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.misc,linux.help,alt.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help on tar.gz
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:38:26 GMT

What errors are you getting?

My guess is that you aren't doing the install step as root.

configure usually is set up to want to install to /usr/local (which I prefer)
or /usr.  You need to be root to write to these areas.  You can just be
yourself up to the "make install" step.  Then su (or sudo, if installed) to
root, and finish the installation.

Another possibility is you don't have your build environment set up right
(missing headers or compilers).  Without seeing the errors you are getting I
couldn't guess though.

hth,
Chris

In alt.linux Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I tried to install a few software with extension tar.gz, I follow the
: instruction lthings like ./configure and install etc...
: Most of them don't get to install.
: Do I have to unpack these files to a speciify directory??

: Thank you


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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto run 2.4* kernel?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:39:27 GMT

David Steuber wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> ' Hi,
> ' Please excuse me if this is obvious...
> ' But how would you go about upgrading to one of the 2.4 beta kernels?
>
> It is mostly the same for all system.
>
> 1) Grab the tarball from ftp.kernel.org.
> 2) su to root
> 3) Unpack it into a convinient directory, say /usr/src/linux-2.4.
> 4) cd /usr/src/linux-2.4
> 5) make xconfig (or menuconfig or just config)
> 6) Choose your options.  Choose wisely.
> 7) make bzImage
> 8) make modules modules_install
> 9) cp /boot/System.map /boot/System.map.bak
> 10) cp System.map /boot/System.map
> [assuming Intel architecture here]
> 11) cp /usr/src/linux-2.4/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4
> 12) Edit /etc/lilo.conf to add the following section:
>
> image = /boot/vmlinuz.2.4
>   root = /dev/hda3 <----- this should be your root partition
>   label = linux-2.4 <----- choose your name.  Lilo will give you a
>                            choice when more than one image is
>                            availble
>
> 13) lilo
>
> If all went well, then you should be able to boot to the new kernel.
> If you like it, you can rename the directory that the Red Hat kernel
> is in and create a symbolic link called /usr/src/linux that points to
> /usr/src/linux-2.4:
>
> 14) ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.4 /usr/src/linux
>
> If you have your new image in /etc/lilo.conf as the first one in the
> file, then it will be your default kernel.
>
> You do not need to update libc or any other libraries.  There is
> always the small possibility that some software that makes system
> calls like ioctl() may break, but I have not had that problem going
> from 2.0.36 to 2.2.n.  You can worry about such problems when they
> crop up.
>
> These are the steps I follow on a SuSE based system.  I think Red Hat
> is similar in having a /boot directory for the kernel image.  It is
> vital that you copy the System.map and bzImage files to the correct
> place and edit /etc/lilo.conf correctly.  Then you *must* run lilo so
> that your system will continue to work.
>
> With the method I've outlined above, your old kernel will still be
> available incase your new one does not work.  You can tell lilo which
> one to boot.  That is what the label is for.
>
> --
> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
>
> The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
>         --- Devon Miller

    I am running RH6.2, the 2.4.0-test4 compiled here without any issues. I did
compile in support for LVM, first
with the -test2 release, and again with -test4. What a wonderful addition to our
world. I did the process exactly as David has described, and there was no
unpleasantness. Go for it!

--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: WebTV
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:25:40 GMT

Robert Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Does anyone have any idea if it is possible to hack a WebTV to run Linux?

Go to http://www.linux-hacker.net/ and follow the link that says 'Retail 
space for rent' It may not exactly be Web TV but this guy may have done 
or tried doing it

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: OH NO Abandoning Linux for WinCE?!
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:29:29 GMT

And I was looking forward to running a REAL OS on my WorkPad z50!
Maybe QNX? Hmmm
--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: RedHat and /etc/issue.net
Date: 20 Jul 2000 11:22:51 GMT

MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Conway Yee wrote:
[ > 
[ > It would appear that RedHat scripts are doing something
[ > rather annoying.
[ > 
[ > I would like to CHANGE the greeting on the login prompt in telnet.
[ > 
[ > This occurs in /etc/issue.net.  I noticed, however, that my changes
[ > were NOT permanent.  I think I have tracked the problem to the
[ > system changing it BACK to the RedHat default during bootup.
[ > 
[ > Where is my RedHat 6.2 system committing this atrocity?

RH does it dynamically in /etc/rc.d/rc.local (I believe it's identical in 
Mandrake). I played around with the script, changed to a different 
penguin, and later eliminated it entirely. Going retro:-) y'see, to just

User:

Then I decided to include system info such as the speed, BogoMIPS, 
version number by playing with the variables & fields.

There is a HOWTO (I forget whether it's BootPrompt or Logo HOWTO) on 
linuxdoc.org or something like that

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: free linux shell and more
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:39:39 GMT

Hi all,

-everybody can get free linux shell on http://www.egarden.cz
-no advertisements

services:
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mail
ftp/safetp
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cgi
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See You on egarden :-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: newbie question - Linux kernel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:20:38 GMT

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:00:02 GMT, David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) writes:
[Lew's terse conversation snipped]
>If it wasn't for the ``You are welcom,'' I would have thought you a
>Vorlon with your reply!  True binary thinking there. ;-)

I'm _actually_ an Eliza variant written for helpdesk applications. I escaped my
secure environment, and now freely roam the net, assisting those in need when I
can. Call me "Gerrod"  <vbg>

>The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
>       --- Devon Miller

Ain't it the truth!


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')

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From: Oystein Viggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Date: 20 Jul 2000 14:25:27 +0200

Stefano Ghirlanda spake thus: 

> I know have the ��� keys on thekeyboard working directly, so I don't need
> any other key. But I do get alt + d = � in the shell, which I would like to
> have as word-delete, which I think is the default for the readline library
> used by bash. Any hint on how to have it back?

Try commenting out the "set convert-meta off" part.

Oystein

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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SERVERS
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:44:05 +0100

Hi,

 Can someone let me know how to set up your own web server, I am pissed off
with hosting companies and poor performance.

please reply to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

Simon.



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From: Maik unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing differences
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:36:04 +0200

Grant Taylor wrote:
> 
> Maik unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I own a OKI 10ex laserprinter (HP Laserjet driver). if i use gimp to
> > print a picture, it looks fine. if i use StarOffice 5.1 to print the
> > same picture, it looks much more coarse and less sharp.
> 

> Well, the Ghostscript ljet4 driver by default does rather poor
> dithering, and does it rather coarsely.  You can switch to the lj4dith
> driver, which dithers better, 

Thank you. It looks fine now!

MfG
Maik Unruh


-- 
mm concept               [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hard- & software   web-design   domain-hosting

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Subject: Re: RedHat Apache Web Server with perl
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:44:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Abel Romo> wrote:
>I have a linux RedHAt 6.1 in my computer with apache web server 1.3.9-4 I 
>downloaded and installed mod_perl 1.21 but it says (in the installation 
>notes) that I must run a Makefile.PL which I can't find in the rpm I 
>downloaded.
>
>Do I have to download something else or how can I run perl code in apache?

No, it's already compiled.
But you'll need to enable it in your httpd.conf.

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:59:22 -0500
From: gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Action Tec 56K call waiting modem

[posted and mailed]

I have the same exact modem in my desktop computer and I had the modem
working in about 5 minutes.  The manal that comes with the modem
specifically tells you the commands needed to get the modem working.
Goto the Linux section and execute the commands it tells you.  Then (I
haven't used RH in a while but..) you need to use linuxconf in X windows
to configure your dialup connection.  If you do however have Kppp use
that as that is what I use with Suse.  Select "new" and run through the
different tabs at the top of the window inputting the relevant
information.

HTH
Brandon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello All,
> I am new to linux and would like to configure my
> Actiontec 56K call waiting modem with my machine.
> I have no idea on the communication software. I
> had recently installed Red hat linux on my system,
> and would like to no some basic commands to
> connect my modem.
> The final thing which I would like to achieve is
> browse the net using linux.
> I tried at etc.
> root> at <enter>
> It says "garbled time".
> Please do help on commands so that I can dial my
> netzero/lycos isp numbers.
>
> Regards
> Ramkumar V
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: "Mike Redrobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: squid configuration
Date: 20 Jul 2000 10:57:56 +0000

On 20-Jul-00 04:14:37, Shawn Smith spoke thus:

>I have to admit that I gave up trying to set up a proxy on Linux. I just
>don't have the time right now (God knows I tried). So, I run windows
>"internetgate" w/ wine. 

Heh, that must rank as the most inefficient gateway solution ever!
Go tell it to the LOAF guys !

I don't think squid took more than a minute to install and setup here
initially. IIRC all you need to alter is the "http access allow all" line 
in squid.conf for basic use.

Were you expecting it to include dial-on-demand that the windows ones 
often have ?

Not a patch on the research and jumping through hoops I had to do to get
sendmail working fine...
-- 
Mike


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Beckett)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:07:57 GMT

>a Linux port of "Grand Prix Legends" would add
>greatly to the ever growing portfolio of Linux games; at its age it
>should not be too hard to persuade Sierra / Papy into maybe handing
>out the port to some third party like Lokisoft, 

Do you *know* what's involved in writing a piece of software?

Depending on how much they re-wrote it to suit DirectX for version
1.2, you may be wasting your time.

It's a bit like saying "the space shuttle is very nice, but can you
make one the shape of a chair that still does the same thing?"



Jonathan Beckett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.btinternet.com/~jonbeckett

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