Linux-Misc Digest #198, Volume #25 Fri, 21 Jul 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: LILO with LIL- problem (Mark)
Re: X question (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux & free ISPs (mst)
Re: Linux & free ISPs (mst)
Re: Installation nightmare (Madrake & Red Hat) ("Sean")
Re: Non US (English) characters from a US keyboard (Dances With Crows)
linux bootup
Re: Linux & free ISPs ("Robert Barry")
just wondering.. (sylvain hutchison)
Re: the little mouse that couldn't (Chris Moore)
Re: Remove Apache from RedHat? (CRAIG E RANSOM)
Re: mke2fs problem - Not enough space to build proposed filesystem while setting up
superblock (Tom Crane)
Re: linux bootup ("David ..")
Re: just wondering.. ("David ..")
Re: Linux & free ISPs (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Incorrect Kernel Version in System.map ("YO!!")
Re: audio on cdrom? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: just wondering.. (Dances With Crows)
Re: ulimit -c doesn't work ("kc")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: LILO with LIL- problem
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:14:10 GMT
you seem to have tried al;most every thing so I'll only add
you may need to rerun /sbin/lilo on the offending computers after all
changes or reinstall the kernal then re run lilo. Tiny differences in
disk partitions can mangle lilo unless it is rerun.
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:13:35 -0400, Andreas Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am hoping that someone can help me with a problem I am
>having with LILO. The particular situation I have is a lab
>of identical computers that will have the capability to
>dual boot Windows 2000 or Linux. Windows 2000 was installed
>followed by Linux (Red Hat 6.2 using a kick start file).
>After updating the kernel from 2.2.14-5.0 as found on the CD
>to 2.2.16-3, identical /etc/lilo.conf files were copied to
>each computer and /sbin/lilo was run. As described in the
>NT OS Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO, the Linux boot sector from
>one computer was copied to a floppy. This file was then
>copied to all the computers and the Windows 2000 boot.ini
>file was modified so that it would allow one to choose Linux.
>This works fine on all but 2 of the 30 computers. The two
>that don't work hang with a LIL- error after choosing Linux
>from the Windows 2000 loader. (These systems, however, boot
>fine with a rescue disk.)
>
>I have looked at the LILO documentation. The LILO User Guide
>indicates this implies that the descriptor table is corrupt.
>The LILO Technical Guide is a bit more detailed in saying that
>the - indicates an incorrect checksum for the descriptor table.
>
>Can someone tell me what needs to be done to avoid the LIL-
>error? (I have already tried reinstalling Linux and the boot
>sector and the problem persists.) Also, am I `asking for
>trouble' by using a boot sector from one computer on a large
>number of other identical computers (i.e., am I lucky that 28
>of 30 computers boot properly?)? Any help/ideas are greatly
>appreciated!
>
>andreas
>--
>Andreas Fuchs
>Penn State Erie
>SEET, Prischak Bldg.
>Station Road
>Erie, PA 16563-1701
>+1 814 898 6472 (voice)
>+1 814 898 6125 (fax)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (email)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: X question
Date: 21 Jul 2000 18:16:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 21 Jul 2000 17:41:49 GMT, Walter Brishen Viaud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi. I'm new to Linux and trying to get RH to work on my system.
>seem to be working fine, except for getting X up and running. It doesn't
>seem to like my graphics card which is: ATI Rage 128 XPERT 99
>The version of XFree86 is 3.3.5 and looking at some stuff on the web it
>seems that I probably need 3.3.6 for my card to work.
>So I have downloaded the patch using my windoze system and have tried to
>get at it in linux through my windows98 mounted partition. But when I try
>to gunzip it I get told that: "The file unexpectedly ended".
...because the Xfree86 tarballs *aren't* normal tarballs, even though
they have the .tgz extension! (Yes, I know. It's really very odd and I
don't know why they do that.) Anyway, for a guide to getting Xfree86
3.3.6 up and running, check out the following sites:
http://xfree86.org/3.3.6/RELNOTES.html
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mhgraham/UpgradeXfree.html
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
A bird in the senate and the GNU project long before Microsoft was a
nasty slavering sound, and three of my men were swept up in its flabby
claws. --MegaHAL
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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & free ISPs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:23:11 -0400
Robert Barry wrote:
>
> Netzero website says they will support Linux. Look under Press Releases.
> However, they don't give a date.
>
> Robert
>
Yes, they've been saying this pretty much for a year or so...no sign of
anything else than the said press releases. I mean, it's understandable
- they require their ad banner be displayed on the screen all the time,
but in Linux, you may as well switch to another virtual terminal and...
:) Windoze doesn't have VTs.
MST
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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & free ISPs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:24:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> One of the other newsgroups mentioned a place called:
> http://www.freeatlast.com
>
I saw that, but it seems to require internet exploder :((
MST
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From: "Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.madrake,ahn.tech.linux
Subject: Re: Installation nightmare (Madrake & Red Hat)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:27:26 GMT
What version of Mandrake are you using?
Try Mandrake 7.1 or download XFree86 4.1 from rpmfind.net.
I had a similar problem with Mandrake and a Dell with an Intel i810 video
chip.
The new version of X worked. No configuration. I just started it.
Dafydd Prichard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm having major problems installing X on my PC (PIII 650, 4 Gig Linux
> partition, 64M Ram, ATI Rage 128 Video Card, Winmodem, USB port, 17"
> Monitor).
> During installation I clicked the relevant info (monitor, vid-card,
> resolution, etc) but when Mandrake tests the system, if fails to work and
> delivers this message...
>
> Couldn't Load
> XKB Keymap, falling back to pre-XKB Keymap
> _FontTranSocket Unix Connect: Can't connect error + 111
> Failed to set default font
> path 'unix/:-1'
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> try changing some parameters
>
> I've tried changing the parameters offered (moitor, vid card, etc) but I
> don't seem to be getting anywhere, each time it just throws up the same
kind
> of fatal messages.
> Prior to Mandrake, I tried Red Hat which basically reacted in the same
way,
> refusing to launch X windows.
>
> If anybody can help or point me in the right direction, I would be very
> grateful
> regards
> Daf
>
> pls mail me if poss (remove the deletethisbit to mail):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Non US (English) characters from a US keyboard
Date: 21 Jul 2000 18:28:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:16:48 -0700, JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I wonder how one can, in a simple way, type characters like
>accented vowels and others peculiar to non-English languages
>under different X applications (in particular, xterm and netscape)
>from a US keyboard?
First, pick a key to use as your "Compose" key. I like to use the
right-hand Ctrl key. Then do "xmodmap -e 'keysym Right_Ctrl =
Multi_key' ". After doing that, you can generate � by pressing the
Multi_key, ' , and e. Umlauts are " , grave accents are ` , � is Multi,
-, L, � is Multi, , , c ... The full list of what you can do is
discussed in the Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO available on
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ or in /usr/doc/howto/ .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
A bird in the senate and the GNU project long before Microsoft was a
nasty slavering sound, and three of my men were swept up in its flabby
claws. --MegaHAL
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux bootup
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:30:09 GMT
When I start linux, the gui logon screen will not show. Instead, I see
the non-gui logon screen, but I cannot type anything in. It will switch
every half second to a black screen and that logon screen. How do I
login? I think this was caused from running wine, but I'm not sure. In
the shutdown log, it shows that the X Font Server couldn't shut down
properly and never loaded properly. What should I do? Thanks in advance.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: "Robert Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & free ISPs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:43:12 -0700
Freeatlast.com website says you must use IE to connect to their service. I
think it has to do with directing you to their homepage / portal
Robert Barry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:57:19 -0400, mst wrote:
> ->Hi-
> ->
> ->I've been using freewwweb for quite a while now - but as of this
> ->morning, they're officially dead. Bought off by Juno. The announcement
> ->at http://home.freewwweb.com says that you have to use a juno account
> ->from now on, however, Juno uses windows-only dialup software a la
> ->netzero, with an ads bar you're supposed to "interact" with, and they
> ->specifically mention NOT supporting Linux.
> ->
> ->So, I was wondering, what other free ISPs compatible with Linux are
> ->there? I know Worldspy was also bought by Juno. I'm specifically
> ->interested in having a local dial-up number in the NYC area. TIA,
> ->
> ->
> ->MST
>
> One of the other newsgroups mentioned a place called:
> http://www.freeatlast.com
>
>
> --
> --- ___ ___ __
> Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa / / / /____ (__)__ ___
> E-Mail: chris at cwaiken dot com / /_/ / _ \/ /\ \/ /
> Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.0 / SuSE 6.4 \__-___/__//__/__/ /__/\__\
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From: sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: just wondering..
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:40:01 -0700
I've been using linux for a couple of weeks now, I really like it, why,
well the best thing about it is that it is so fast in executing stuff,
and practically never freezes or crashes.
I though that linux would be faster because it doesn't have all this GUI
for deleting/copying.. files for example, but I'm sure there must be
other reasons why Linux is a much faster OS than windows. Anybody knwos
why????
Sly.
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From: Chris Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: the little mouse that couldn't
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:43:03 GMT
cabal2112 wrote:
> In article <395c89bb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In comp.os.linux.misc Jesse Drogin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have one of those cool Logitech mice (not the mouseman, it is not
> > > modled, it must be older, just says Logitech) that has the wheel as
> the
> > > middle third button.
> >
> > What driver are you using? I use TurboLinux which has its own hardware
> > configuration file (so am not sure where the actual details are). I
> have a
> > Logitech Mable+ (with wheel). Could not figure out how to get it to
> work
> > until I realized I was using it with the MS Intellimouse drivers in
> > Windows, so I chose PS/2 Intellimouse with wheel.
> >
> > Not many programmes support the wheel. It works in Lyx. I can scroll
> my
> > Kterm window in KDE. Unfortunately, it does not work in Netscape
> (where I
> > really wanted it to work).
> >
> hey
> there's is a patch available to get netscape to work..i dont have it
> with me but it can be found pretty easily (i found it by perusing linux
> newsgroups). it works pretty much only for the main scroll bar in ns and
> not sub-bars etc. if i remember correctly, the patch is just a portion
> of text to be entered into the imwheelrc file to control the ns scroll
> bar.
>
> hope this helps
> cabal (xcuze my windoze, im at work)
> --
> --you are no longer boone---you are cabal---save me from my enemies--
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
I'm running Redhat 6.2 as well. Go to www.calderasystems.com. There you
will find a link to support-knowledge base. Do a search on "wheelmouse".
There is one titled how to enable the wheel on a wheelmouse. Follow those
instructions and you will be fine. The Caldera Distro is based on Redhat.
Also, I found easier instructions in Linux Magazine this month. It's still
on the newstand. The topic is how to customize your desktop or something
like that.
You can do it. It's not hard. I'm a linux newbie and I have mine working.
Good Luck
Chris Moore, MCSE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Remove Apache from RedHat?
From: CRAIG E RANSOM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:42:36 EDT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David .. wrote:
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>
Wise old guy, wasn't he? <bg>
-- Craig (The Data Ferret)
http://www.pcferret.com/ for RARS, NetClip
Using Virtual Access 5.01 build 301 in Win98
"Do not meddle in the affairs of FERRETS..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Crane)
Subject: Re: mke2fs problem - Not enough space to build proposed filesystem while
setting up superblock
Date: 21 Jul 00 19:29:50 GMT
In article <C1Xd5.1925$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> The only things I can think of are do you really have the proper amount of
> space on the device?? Also, shouldn't you be creating an extended partition
> and then create logical drive(s) inside that??? I filled up an 18 gig drive
> using the extended partitioning scheme and it's been happy ever since.
Thanks for the followup. I have a interest in this - I was trying to help setup
the partitions on this machine. You probably noticed the HD was actually a 10GB
device but the oldish bios only recognises 8GB. Manually entering the drive
shape into the bios permits Linux to see 10GB. The problem is Win98! - It's C
drive partition was installed with the bios' default HD settings and with the
drive shape explicitly entered, Win98 won't boot :-(. Is it likely that the
mke2fs error is due to incorrect partition table info due to the 8/10 GB
discrepancy? The owner of the machine is reluctant to reinstall Win98! Maybe I
will try a backup + delete/recreate partitions + format/S + restore for the
Win98 C partition if the 8/10GB thing is the problem...
On the extended/logical partition issue: I was under the impression that 4
primary partitions were permitted before having to resort to the
extended+logical scheme - Do you agree?
Regards
Tom.
--
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAN: 19.875
Fax: 01784 472794
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux bootup
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:40:37 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> When I start linux, the gui logon screen will not show. Instead, I see
> the non-gui logon screen, but I cannot type anything in. It will switch
> every half second to a black screen and that logon screen. How do I
> login? I think this was caused from running wine, but I'm not sure. In
> the shutdown log, it shows that the X Font Server couldn't shut down
> properly and never loaded properly. What should I do? Thanks in advance.
At the lilo prompt enter "linux 3" without quotes. This will boot in to
a text console where you will be able to login and configure X or make
corrections at the command line.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: just wondering..
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:42:12 -0500
sylvain hutchison wrote:
>
> I've been using linux for a couple of weeks now, I really like it, why,
> well the best thing about it is that it is so fast in executing stuff,
> and practically never freezes or crashes.
>
> I though that linux would be faster because it doesn't have all this GUI
> for deleting/copying.. files for example, but I'm sure there must be
> other reasons why Linux is a much faster OS than windows. Anybody knwos
> why????
It doesn't take 4 million lines of code to make it work.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & free ISPs
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:31:31 -0500
mst wrote:
>
> Hi-
>
> I've been using freewwweb for quite a while now - but as of this
> morning, they're officially dead. Bought off by Juno. The announcement
> at http://home.freewwweb.com says that you have to use a juno account
> from now on,
What the freewwweb page actually says is,
Freewwweb is now signing up new subscribers through
Juno, the world's first free Internet service.
To get completely free Internet access, including free
e-mail, just click the "Download Juno Now!" button and
get your free Juno software today.
Note that it says, "signing up NEW subscribers," (emphasis added).
I take that to mean if you already are a subscriber, you won't
have to download Juno.
Craig
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From: "YO!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Incorrect Kernel Version in System.map
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:38:04 GMT
Victor escribi�:
>
> I am getting following messages:
>
> Incorrect kernel Version in System.map
>
> Any ideas how to fix it ???
>
> Thanks
In, inside /usr/src/linux/ run "make install", review /etc/lilo.conf,
run lilo and, reboot. Before you can do one backup of directory /boot.
Saludos
@NGEL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:29:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:55:00 GMT, Potter Wickware
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the
CD
> >player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM
makes
> >the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
> >tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works
fine
> >when the machine is booted on the win OS.
>
> since nobody else has offered any suggestions, have you checked all
the
> volume settings? There are 2 places in RH 5.2: xMixer and xPlayCD.
Both
> have volume slide bars, and though I don't know why, I had
> to tweak them in both places.
>
> Hope this helps,
> MP
>
> --
> "If there are any gods whose chief concern is man, they cannot be
very
> important gods."
> --Arthur C. Clarke
If there is a 4 wire cable between CDROM and mainboard or sound card,
just try to run program sndconfig again. It is worth trying.
Best wishes, I. Leban
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: just wondering..
Date: 21 Jul 2000 19:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:40:01 -0700, sylvain hutchison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been using linux for a couple of weeks now, I really like it, why,
>well the best thing about it is that it is so fast in executing stuff,
>and practically never freezes or crashes.
>
>I though that linux would be faster because it doesn't have all this GUI
>for deleting/copying.. files for example, but I'm sure there must be
>other reasons why Linux is a much faster OS than windows. Anybody knwos
>why????
Another thing that makes it faster (on Intel processors, anyway) is that
Linux uses the 32-bit protected mode of the processor all the time.
Win9x shifts back and forth between 16-bit real mode and protected mode
many times a second, since DOS uses a lot of real-mode code and Win9x
still runs on top of DOS. These context switches consume processor
time.
Win9x is also rather bad at multitasking. Try running WinAmp and
Word97 at the same time, and Word97 has visible lag on a 1-page
document. No such problem with StarOffice+xmms on Linux, even though
StarOffice is more bloated than Word97. (Again, Win9x is based on DOS
and DOS is single-tasking.)
However, a single-tasking single-user OS like Win9x has certain
advantages if you're only going to be running one thing, and that thing
does fancy 3D graphics. With this in mind, MS may be counting on the
X-Box to save them from ruin if their OS empire crumbles....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
When we get to that bridge, we'll burn it behind us, then jump.
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From: "kc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ulimit -c doesn't work
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:03:56 -0600
By default, RH, for as long as I can remember (which isn't very long anymore)
has set ulimit -c in /etc/profile. Have you tried modifying the setting there
rather than adding another in rc.local?
In article <8l9laa$cdq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aldo Pignotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On RedHat 6.1 & 6.2 machines, I can't get ulimit -c xxxxxxx
> to work. It works for root but a user gets a message that any number exceeds
> the limit. I tried setting ulimit -c 1000000 in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and that
> worked for one log in but not later. Anyone else see this? Any ideas?
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> It ain't no sin to be glad you're alive - the boss
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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