Linux-Misc Digest #219, Volume #25 Sun, 23 Jul 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: wvdial - modem disconnect possibility ("David ..")
Re: Linux Proxy Client? (Duane)
Re: HD LED always on (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Compaq Armada 1700 and built in modem (Hans Vredeveld)
Re: CFLAGS: optimize for i586 ("David ..")
Re: StarOffice =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= show vfat partition (Karel Jansens)
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (Alt)
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (Steve Petrov)
Re: Defraging against LILO? (Norman Levin)
Re: tmp directory (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: wvdial - modem disconnect possibility ("robin")
Re: Trident Image3D975 AGP (Duane)
Re: Trident Image3D975 AGP (Duane)
Re: Startup questions (brian moore)
Re: tmp directory (Repo)
ICQ in RH6.2? (Michal Szymanski)
Netscape 4.73-us has Alzheimer disease? (blowfish)
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (Kelly and Sandy)
Re: Apparently slow modem speed (Dances With Crows)
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: wvdial - modem disconnect possibility
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:01:32 -0500
robin wrote:
>
> On a related note, my ppp seems to reliably dial out on demand, but when I
> use wget and the isp terminates the connection after two hours (freeserve
> unlimited) wget doesn't seem to reconnect in the right way to make the
> dialout happen. Anybody got any ideas?
If you are wanting it to automatically re-dial then you might look at:
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0
And just below the line "ONBOOT=" add this if it isn't already there.
PERSIST=yes
HOLDOFF=60
When disconnected it will wait 60 seconds before re-dialing which is
controlled by the "HOLDOFF=" line. Depending on the ISP you may need to
change this line to give time for their systems to acknowledge that you
are no longer connected.
Hope this helps.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Proxy Client?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:42:55 -0700
Mike Pepera wrote:
>
> My question is, does a proxy client for Linux exist???
>
> I have a Linux machine which connects to the internet via a Windows 98
> machine running WinProxy and a modem. I would like to have full network
> functionaliy on my Linux machine, but I have not been able to find a way
> to do this. I know that the preferred solution to this problem is put
> the modem on the Linux machine and make the Linux machine a
> router/proxy/etc
>
> Unfortunately the Linux machine is not anywhere close to a phone jack,
> and since I live in an apartment at school, I can not add another one
> near my computer since I will be vacating this place within the month.
>
> Any suggestions and help is most appreciated.
I don't know about other programs, but Netscape (4.73) has proxy support
builtin.
Preferences->Advanced->Proxies
I don't use a separate proxy machine, but I do use it with the
junkbuster proxy server (a truely great program) to filter out annoying
ads and graphics, and unwanted cookies.
http://www.junkbusters.com/
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: HD LED always on
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:24:10 GMT
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:07:07 +0100, Jolyon Hallel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>I've got two operating systems on my HD, Linux, and an-other(!) With
>the other operating system, the HD LED behaves itslef, coming on when
>there is disk access, and going off when there isn't. However, under
>Linux, it is on permanently. Is this normal, and if it isn't, what
>needs to be done? My main concern is whether it will cause problems
>with the HD being "axtive" all the time.
>
>(I've noticed that it only seems to start behaving "normally" under
>Linux, when there is in fact something wrong somewhere, probably with
>the CD, requiring a power-off and on.)
One possibility: CD applets. Some of these 'watch' the CD for disk
changes, etc and can cause the behavior you describe. WmCDPlay does for
sure. What I do is, is only run it when I need CD access, otherwise not.
--
Hal B
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Hans Vredeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.help
Subject: Re: Compaq Armada 1700 and built in modem
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:31:00 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> How do I have to proceed to use the internal modem of a Compaq Armada
> 1700 (6300/T/5000/D/0/2) model with SuSE-Linux 6.4 ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Armada a notebook? If so, you may
quiet safely assume the internal modem is a Winmodem (also known as
software modem), which means it will not work with Linux.
Hans
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CFLAGS: optimize for i586
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:17:47 -0500
Martin Herrman wrote:
>
> Dear reader,
>
> I'm building a wine rpm and in the spec file I can easily add some CFLAGS. Now
> it says:"-03 -WALL". But I also want the rpm to be optimized for i586 CPU's.
> Which option should I add?
This is for an i586 it will most likely not run on a i386.
CFLAGS= -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O3 -march=pentium -mcpu=pentium
-ffast-math -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr
-malign-double -fno-exceptions
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:22:28 +0200
From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= show vfat partition
Thomas Zajic wrote:
>
>
> This is some weird bug in SO, IIRC. The mount point of your vfat
> partition must not contain any uppercase characters (!) - try
> mounting it on /mnt/dos_hda2 and see if it helps.
>
Thanks, Thomas and the others. Changing the name of my DOS partition
from /mnt/DOS_hda2 to /mnt/dos did the trick. In my defense, this was
the name that the Mandrake install defaulted to. I previously had given
it the "simple" name.
Just goes to show that even Mandrake can goof up sometimes (although Sun
is obviously more to blame).
--
Karel Jansens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:20:13 +0300
Kelly and Sandy wrote:
> In a alt.os.linux.mandrake newsletter entitled "LINUX SUX THE BIG
> WAZOO!", Rootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> >Linux isn't for everyone it certainly isn't for the average user
> >for a desktop PC - although it will gladly fill that role if
> >desired. It requires the user to relearn a lot of the ingrained
> >ideas that MS has foisted off on us over the years and forces the
> >user to actually understand what he is doing.
> >
> >If you don't like it then don't use it. Donate you CD to a local
> >school or friend who can put it to use. Linux works, it was you
> >that failed to understand it's intracasies and nuances. Move on,
> >go back to Windows and chalk it up to experience.
>
> My middle name is "Newbie".
>
Very nice.
My "Meekola".
:)))
>
> I'd like to ask any people who happen to be browsing this newsletter
> what viable personal computer operating systems are available today,
> besides your Microsoft.
>
Why the Microsoft is "my" ?
>
> There's the Macintosh (MacOS) Next computer I get will be a Mac.
Rational choice.
I advice you to wait to the final release of MacOS X with Aqua.
Some people could say that Mac costs much more as equal "PC" configuration.
Indeed. But with Mac you bye a thing.
You don't need to be looking for drivers, hardware patches, and "brain fixes"
:)
Mac works everywhen.
>
> There's Linux Hmm, we all know and love this one.
Everybody use it, and every body complain it. :(
>
> There's Oberon Not cooperative multitasking?
> There's BeOS Thin, very thin, last I looked.
> There's EPOC32 Nice. Is this only for handhelds?
> There's OS2 Not sure. Is this still ongoing?
>
Yes it is ongoing, but it isn't an desktop OS any more.
>
> By "viable", I refer to the intuited meaning: that my grandmother
> could start use it and begin to think of the computer as her "personal
> computer".
>
> In all seriousness, is there anything else I should consider?
>
MacOS system X with Aqua.
This one project unite all discoveries and accomplishments of two better (in
such area)
teams:
It's teams from: NeXT and from Apple.
Also there is a better futuristic experimental solutions, at the moment.
But all of them need at least an experienced sys. operator with every user.
:)))
Between, Microsoft say that they apply big forces to development their user
interface.
Bull shit ! MSux-Windows have worse UI from that whole systems which I have
seen !
Between, have you seen Windows 1 ? (require one disk 720 kb in a couple with
DOS 3.0 and some application.)
I sure that it is best version of Windows.
In our country pirates mad the CD which called "Billy's degradation".
It had all version of windows from first to 98 (2000 wasn't accessible,
to the moment of release of the disk). :)))
About the Linux, It's so flexible.
To say that it's good or bad.
There is no technical troubles to run MacOS X features with Aqua under the
Linux.
But seams that Apple don't like to release source code of MacOS X from the
political resons.
Even without Apples things, Linuxes with K.D.E. and with fvwm2 + console
applications
are big differences.
Was nice to talk.
Buy Goods, or Good bye. :)
--the Alternative.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Sandy
>
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From: Steve Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:40:51 -0400
William Burrow wrote:
...
> >September...)
>
> Lets start the nominations for computer of the year: the G4 Cube....
>
> http://www.userfriendly/cartoons/archives/00jul/20000723.html
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
It is a pretty case. Now if we could just get the case with an AMD cpu
running LINUX it would be worth buying. Or better yet, a smaller version
with EPOC or embedded DOS. :-)
Regards,
Steve
> --
> William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
> Copyright 2000 William Burrow ~ /\
> ~ ()>()
Note: I did quote your copyrighted e-mail above but I think it fits into
the "fair use" exception of Title 17 USC. I should read the Canadian
Copyright Act too but I think it also has a fair use provision... ;-)
Note, however, that where someone exceeds fair use you will still be
limited in the amount of damages you can obtain until you actually
register your copyrighted e-mail with the relevant office =:-o
--
Steve Petrov
Lawyer, Internet Developer
http://www.LegalTrademark.com
Domain-name Law & News
Trademarks and Copyrights
Patent Litigation
Intellectual Property
Web Site Development
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:14:28 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Scott Rose wrote:
>
> I have the same problem. I'm running a dual Win98/Redhat 6.2 system. When
> I run Defrag under Windows, it seems to corrupt the Linux partitions. My
> Linux boot disk did not help, as the ext2 file sytsem was corrupted and fsck
> could not fix it. I had to reinstall Linux, and not use defrag.
** defrag should just work within the C: or D: disk - that is, hda1 or whatever.
In other words, it should not touch the master boot record. More than likely, there
is something in the geometry which is telling the dos program that the partition
extends
further than it really does and it is over writting the start of the linux partition
and
clobbering the superblok.
SO - make sure your linux kernel is below 1024 cylinders and using fdisk or cfdisk,
maybe
see that your partitions end on a cylinder boundary.
>
> Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
> > be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
> > how to solve it.
> >
> > I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
> > disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
> > that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
> > the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
> > possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
> >
> > Someone told me that it might be possible to recover the system by
> > reinstalling the linux as an upgrade, and that it would recover the
> > LILO, but it was not possible to reinstall it, because it seems that it
> > has also destroyed the partition system of Linux.
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to recover the system after this
> > problem, or any idea how to defrag the hard disk without destroying the
> > Linux?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Unai
--
Norman Levin
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Crossposted-To: linux.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: tmp directory
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:48:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:33:30 -0400, Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Can I safely delete all the files in the tmp directory of Linux
>
> You can remove old files, but you have to be careful about removing
> subdirectories and pipes for things like xfonts (.font-unix), esound
> (.esd) and other active tmp files used for current status.
<snip>
You can use 'tmpwatch' on Red Hat as possible other distributions to
remove files from the /tmp directory. It is a bit more safer for those
who don't understand what is in their /tmp directory. Actually, on Red
Hat systems, this program is run on a nightly basis to remove any file
not accessed in the last 10 days. If you want to modify this, edit the
file /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: wvdial - modem disconnect possibility
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:50:41 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
thanks for the info
> And just below the line "ONBOOT=" add this if it isn't already there.
>
> PERSIST=yes HOLDOFF=60
>
> When disconnected it will wait 60 seconds before re-dialing which is
> controlled by the "HOLDOFF=" line. Depending on the ISP you may need to
> change this line to give time for their systems to acknowledge that you
> are no longer connected.
>
> Hope this helps.
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trident Image3D975 AGP
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:51:47 -0700
WF wrote:
>
> I tried to install RH6.2 on my computer with a Trident 975 AGP chipset and
> it won't do graphic install... I
> installed earlier on on Mandrake 6.5 and I get similar problems... X just
> either freezes or the resolution really sucks on a generic driver. Anyone
> has encountered this problem before? My monitor is not a listed monitor but
> I keyed in every information as stated in the manual but to no avail... Hope
> to ehar from some kind soul... been really stuck with this problem for a
> long time already. Thanx in advance.
Is there a problem with doing a text install? At the boot: prompt, type
text. You will then have an opportunity later during the installation to
set up your graphics configuration. That may require trying different
setups until you get one that works; so far required on all of my
installations during the graphics configuration steps :-(
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trident Image3D975 AGP
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:07:28 -0700
Duane wrote:
>
> WF wrote:
> >
> > I tried to install RH6.2 on my computer with a Trident 975 AGP chipset and
> > it won't do graphic install... I
> > installed earlier on on Mandrake 6.5 and I get similar problems... X just
> > either freezes or the resolution really sucks on a generic driver. Anyone
> > has encountered this problem before? My monitor is not a listed monitor but
> > I keyed in every information as stated in the manual but to no avail... Hope
> > to ehar from some kind soul... been really stuck with this problem for a
> > long time already. Thanx in advance.
>
> Is there a problem with doing a text install? At the boot: prompt, type
> text. You will then have an opportunity later during the installation to
> set up your graphics configuration. That may require trying different
> setups until you get one that works; so far required on all of my
> installations during the graphics configuration steps :-(
Oops, now that I reread your message, I see that you were talking
talking about problems with graphics configuration (rather than a true
"graphics install", as I first read it).
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Startup questions
Date: 23 Jul 2000 19:55:28 GMT
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:59:10 -0700,
Micromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) I have Linux RedHat 6.0. I am using /etc/rc.d/rc.local to put startup
> programs. I want a pause in the script because I first connect to my ISP via
> PPPD, then I want to wait about 15 seconds for the connection to be made,
> and after that I want my squid caching-proxy server to start. How can I put
> a 15 second pause in the script?
That sounds like an icky way to do it. If you're running something that
can only be started when networking is up, you should add it to run when
networking comes up. pppd, for example, will run scripts when
networking comes and goes.
> 2) What kind of script is rc.local? Is there a name for it?
A shell script? An init script? An ugly Redhat hack (for rc.local,
anyway).
> 3) What does the following code mean, and can someone suggest a reference
> for this kind of script?
>
> ie: if [ -f /usr/local/squid/bin/squid ] ; then
> echo -n 'Squid'
> (/usr/local/squid/bin/squid &)
> fi
man bash
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: tmp directory
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:53:08 +0200
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Daniel wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Can I safely delete all the files in the tmp directory of Linux
>
>Thank in advance
Daniel
You can use tmpwatch
/usr/sbin/tmpwatch -10 /tmp
where 10 are the hours the file hasn't been changed
--
Good Luck
Repo
ICQ 69588792
http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
http://beginnerslinux.org
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)Kernel 2.2.5-15
9:55pm up 2 days, 20 min, 3 users, load average: 2.18, 2.36, 2.47
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Szymanski)
Subject: ICQ in RH6.2?
Date: 23 Jul 2000 19:58:41 GMT
Hi all,
Which RPMs should I install to get ICQ running on my RH6.2 machine?
I tried 'licq' + 'licq-qt' (ver. 0.85) but then I get following
error message:
21:40:22: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (qt-gui):
/usr/lib/licq/licq_qt-gui.so: undefined symbol:
dragEnterEvent__14QMultiLineEditP15QDragEnterEvent.
I have 'qt-2.1.0-4.beta1' installed if that might be important.
any hints would be appreciated,
regards, Michal.
--
Michal Szymanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Warsaw University Observatory, Warszawa, POLAND
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Netscape 4.73-us has Alzheimer disease?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:59:07 -0700
Any body has this problem?
My Netscape 4.73 (downloaded from netscape.com, u.s. version)is having
Alzheimer disease.
Won't save anything. No bookmark, no nothing!!!!
Alex / blowfish.
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From: Kelly and Sandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:04:02 +0100
In a alt.os.linux.mandrake newsletter entitled "Operating systems for
personal-computers?", Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>Was nice to talk.
>
>Buy Goods, or Good bye. :)
Was wonderful to hear you talk. The Ukraine! Wow, no wonder
Tolstoy's "War and Peace" so good to read. Spirited people. Many
thanks.
Thanks for all advice about state-of-play with Operating Systems
today.
Kind regards,
Sandy
P.S. Regards "your Microsoft". Is English colloquial speech: They
have a big Naval Practice, manoeuvres in the mid-Atlantic. Every
one showing off their systems, firing mock cruise missiles at
each-other, sending up tomahawks and showing off all the defence
avionics for the company suits. Then the on-board Windows NT --
running the ship -- falls over with a BSOD. Ship's a dead duck in
the water. That's your Microsoft for you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Apparently slow modem speed
Date: 23 Jul 2000 20:07:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:42:17 GMT, Mark Hymers wrote:
>Setserial reports the modem as using irq 0 (!?!). I can't find an
>interrupt listed in /proc/interrupts. It is an internal modem with
>DIP switches on the back (a Phonic Pro 56K ISA - not in plug and play
>mode). There are no other serial ports activated on the computer. I
>don't know the configurations for the DIP switches unfortunately - and
>Phonic Pro's website gives no information about this. It is on ttyS3.
>Any suggestions?
IRQ 0 means that the modem is operating in polling mode--which is a heck
of a lot slower than interrupt-driven mode no matter what you do! I'd
try messing about with setserial kind of like so:
setserial -v /dev/ttyS3 port 0x2e8 irq 3
or
setserial -v /dev/ttyS3 port 0x2e8 auto_irq skip_test autoconfig
Too bad about the DIP switches... are there any letters/numbers near
said switches? Those may mean something to modem gurus in this NG...
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin/ That which does not kill us
http://www.brainbench.com / makes us stranger.
============================/ ==Trevor Goodchild
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