Linux-Misc Digest #232, Volume #25               Tue, 25 Jul 00 00:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: CD Writing Software (Michel Catudal)
  Re: hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted (Steffen Kluge)
  Re: Configure error x... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Whats a good sound card for Redhat 6.1 ? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Anyone have Intermute for Linux? ("David ..")
  Re: Sendmail (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ("01111000")
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! ("01111000")
  Thanks for the suggestions (Mike Pepera)
  Re: UPS with serial port (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: UPS with serial port (Robert Heller)
  Re: UPS with serial port (Robert Heller)
  df shows 100% used, after I removed files, it's still 100% used ("Phillip Zheng")
  Re: telnetd: All network ports in use ("Aurelien Marchand")
  Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? ("Piers B.")
  zip as /dev/hdc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD Writing Software
Date: 24 Jul 2000 20:21:10 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just want to know what software I'll need to record with my cd writer.
> There seems to be a multitude of different software for this, and I don't
> know which combination I should use.  I've read the cd writing howto, and
> have downloaded X-CD-Roast, CDRecord, CDParanoia, and Grip.  However, I'm
> not understanding which of these I need, or if I have the right software.
> Any help with what combination to use, as well as how to get started would
> be much appreciated.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding the howto well
> enough.  Thank you.
> 

cdroast is very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. For some mysterious 
reasons
the author has decided to have it defaulting to a partition instead of a file. When 
you 
install it under SuSE you are warned that it could destroy your data. It could be 
usefull
to save to a partition but considering that most people wouldn't want to do that, it 
defies logic
to have it has the default, meaning that if you don't change the default, the first 
thing you'll
be doing when making an image is wiping out one of your partitions. The writer has you 
press an OK
button agreeing that he is not responsible for wiping out your hard drive. This is the 
most ridiculous
piece of software I have ever encountered.

As for xcdroast it is only the GUI wrapper for cdroast. On my PC it has been 
responsible for several
frisbies, so it would be a good thing to avoid it.

gcombust works well so far with music, aside from that it make friesbies when I try to 
burn an iso image.
I use gcombust to generate an iso image and then burn that image on the console with 
passing the proper
parameters to cdrecord. A man cdrecord will tell you what to do. You can also copy CDs 
to iso images with
gcombust

cdparanoia is used to extract music tracks from CDs.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steffen Kluge)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: hdparm, tips, tricks and config recommendations wanted
Date: 25 Jul 2000 01:28:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8l76nn$qrp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
max barwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, I recently posted about my machine running slowly, thrashing, and 
>generally bugging out , and one thing I was told was check my HD and 
>what I got from hdparm -tT, I was told I should get 140+/10+. I get on average
>70+/14+ even with no other processes running.

So your disk performs better than expected. The first figure is
the buffer cache transfer rate and has not much to do with the
disk itself, really.

Cheers
Steffen.

-- 
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Fujitsu Australia Ltd
Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
linux.misc,linux.help,alt.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.binaries.warez.linux,alt.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Configure error x...
Date: 25 Jul 2000 01:36:32 GMT

Qt?  It sounds like a KDE application (KDE uses the Qt library).  There will
be many many more libraries and headers to install.  The should all be on
your CD (or wherever you installed from).  Hopefully there is a README with
the program you are building to help you know which files you need.

Here's a suggested list (probably incomplete, since I don't know what you are
installing)

Qt
png
jpeg
zlib
kernel headers
gif
imlib
Image Magick

--> there should be some devel packages optional with your version of linux,
    maybe with the above in their names.

   Sorry, that's the best I can suggest...

   Chris

In alt.linux Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I download the Xprod.tgz and unpack in my usr/local
: I tried to install a programm again, this I got a different error message:
: checking for X... configure: error: QT >=1.42 (headers and librairies) not found. 
:Please
: check your installation



:> Huh!?
:>
:> ./configure can be run on any user (if you have write permission in your
:> current directory).  Since configure is generating error messages, it is
:> being found in the path.  Generally you unpack your sources in a directory
:> that is not in your path (because it will never contain any executable you
:> will want to run) and type "./configure" to set it up for your system's
:> specifics.  It looks to me like Daniel got this far.
:>
:> The problem is what it is saying: you are probably missing your "X
:> includes".  These are a bunch of declarations of X routines and need to be on
:> your system if you plan on building anything that will run with X windows.
:> They are usually installed separately so that only people who need them
:> have to install them.
:>
:> You should be able to get them from wherever you got your linux from, or
:> here (an XFree86 mirror):
:>
:>         
:ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/XFree86/3.3.6/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc21/Xprog.tgz
:>
:> Since your version of X on your linux distribution may differ, you should try
:> to find the X headers where you got linux.
:>
:> Hope this helps,
:> Chris
:>
:> In alt.linux Ted Kegebein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : Daniel wrote:
:>
:> :> I'm a new user of Linux (Open Linux 2.4)
:> :>
:> :> I tried to install a files and when I make the ./configure I get this
:> :> error message:
:> :>
:> :> checking for X... configure: error: Can't fing X includes. Please check
:> :> your installation and add the correct path.
:> :>
:> :> Thank you in advance
:>
:> : Make sure that you are logged in as "root".
:> : Also, the directory you are trying to configure a program has
:> : to be in a "path" recognized by your compiling files. If it is not under
:> : the "/" partition, your compiling files may not be available.


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whats a good sound card for Redhat 6.1 ?
Date: 24 Jul 2000 20:38:28 -0500

Steve a �crit :
> 
> After dinking with this thing for some time, a new card in order

If you want doom to work and not crash use a sound card that doesn't need alsa drivers 
which are
very very very very very buggy.

I use a AWE64 which works perfectly and you can get it for $35 at

http://www.a2zcomp.com

Here in Michigan it takes two days to get here UPS ground. Very good service and no 
tax.

A friend of mine has the Sound Blaster live and had a hard time to set it up. Now the 
alsa works
but alsa doesn't know how to handle DMA apparently because doom always crashes. I'll 
have to ask him
if he got quake to work. I've had no success here, disabling the sound was the only 
way until I flushed
the alsa driver alltogether. Someday it may be usefull once that major bug is fixed, 
until then it's
useless. The card could be usefull and a good buy if Open Sound supports it, last I 
checked a few months
ago they didn't. This may have changed. The driver should be around $20.

I have tried it with two different cards here with similar results, it crashes often 
without any
logical reason. So avoid any card that doesn't work with the linux kernel unless you 
don't mind
regular core dump of programs that are demanding on the sound card.



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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone have Intermute for Linux?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:30:53 -0500

Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> 
> Does anyone happen to have the Linux Intermute package that could
> send it to me?  I'd really appreciate it.  Alternatively, are there
> any other ad blockers for Linux I could try?


http://www.junkbuster.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Sendmail
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:43:48 GMT

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:20:38 +0200, mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How I forward any message just arrived on one email address to another
>address? 

To forward all mail: 
cd ~
echo "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > .forward

You can also edit /etc/aliases and then run newaliases.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: "01111000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:28:46 -0700

"Richard Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Andy Shearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'd be a bit careful with the car analogy - what is said about windows
is true but with a linux powered car?
> >
> > Where do you put the petrol - /usr/petrol or /usr/local/petrol?
>
> Depends if you install from petrol.rpm or petrol.tar.gz.
>

/usr/bin/gojuice

> > Not withstanding that alot of stuff you get as a "kit" and have to
compile it into a car..
>
> But at least you can press your own car if you want.
>

if u work on cars for a hobby, u will like my analogy of cars relating to
the question :)

> > Also, until recently your car couldn't have more than 1024 cylinders..
>
> Only on one of it's engines.
>
> > The list goes on - I think discussions between Windows vs Linux are
> > fruitless and often border on religeous fanatiscism (sp?)...
>
> I think you may be right. "Hail linux, full of grace...."
>

windows is like the pos mpi 4cyl rolling wrecks... it is factory preset and
can only be reconfigured with costly updates... (which if you get into and
decypher the registry, u can reconfigure it, but 1 mistake and its fried...)
linux is an older sporty piece of musclecar, which has many /usr
variables... and u dont have to restart your car after changing a carb
setting :)

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From: "01111000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:34:25 -0700

"Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 24 Jul 2000, Andy Shearman quoth:
>
> ][ I'd be a bit careful with the car analogy - what is said about windows
is true but with a linux powered car?
>
> Not necessarily?
>
> ][ The list goes on - I think discussions between Windows vs Linux are
fruitless and often border on religeous fanatiscism (sp?)...
>
> Quite true.  But we are talking about cars here, get with it!! Have
> you ever heard anyone argue over which car is better, sheesh. ;^)
>
> anm
cause mopar has some kickass engines/drivelines (i mean linux), gm makes
some nice body styles (oops, i mean 69 gto) and frd (win?)  theres no
argument  :)


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From: Mike Pepera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thanks for the suggestions
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 02:26:28 GMT

Thanks,

I was afraid that the suggestions would be what has been suggested, as
I had already come to those conclusions, but I guess I was hoping for a
miracle solution!

Mike Pepera


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: UPS with serial port
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 02:59:09 GMT

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:00:01 GMT, David Steuber wrote:
>I'm looking for recomendations for UPSs that Linux can work with to do
>a proper shutdown.  Does Tripplite support Linux?  I've been told to
>avoid APC because it only puts out 90v on battery.  I don't want to
>waste my power supply.

I've never heard of this. Two UPSs at the school whos network I administered
ran APC SmartUPS 700's. Connected between the two were as follows;

 o (1) NetFinity 5500 R20 dual PIII-500MHz, quad 18GiB Ultra-160 SCSI drives,
   1GB RAM
 o (1) Fibre backbone
 o (3) 24x10MBPS, 2x100MBPS Fibre/Copper switches
 o (2) Pentium-class servers with multiple HDDs each
 o (3) 16-port LanCity hubs
 o (1) LanPlex 10/100 switch
 o (1) 3Com 10/100 switch

None of these devices suffered any power loss or damage during the many
power failures plaguing that area of the city. (Overhead powerlines are
considered the primary cause).

UPS monitoring software showed the UPS to maintain a voltage output of
between 118-122V at all times - while on AC feed or on battery. Logging
also showed that the UPS regulated voltage during blackouts, brownouts
(as low as 40V in one instance), surges and spikes (up to and including
300V).

APC has proven to be an Industry-strength, tried-and-true backup power
provider for many years; whether it be with their low(er) end home UPS
products or their industrial-grade large UPS solutions.

I suggest you peruse the "UPS Locator" on APC's website (http://www.apc.com)
to find the UPS that most suits your needs.

I also further the suggestion that your friend have his UPS looked at for
possible warranty work and/or battery replacement if it's dropping voltage
as you've described.

>Is there a UPS Linux compatibility list somewhere?

PowerChute software from APC works under Linux. From my observations, it
can function on an equal par with the Win'** version; including all
shutdowns, scheduled tasks, and self-tests.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test4

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UPS with serial port
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:09:22 GMT

  David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:00:01 GMT, wrote :

DS> Hi,
DS> 
DS> I'm looking for recomendations for UPSs that Linux can work with to do
DS> a proper shutdown.  Does Tripplite support Linux?  I've been told to
DS> avoid APC because it only puts out 90v on battery.  I don't want to
DS> waste my power supply.
DS> 
DS> Is there a UPS Linux compatibility list somewhere?
DS> 
DS> Is there a common protocol used by USPs?  How difficult would it be to
DS> spy on the serial port if there isn't?

Locate the 'powerd' HOWTO (UPS HOWTO) for *complete* details.  Get a
copy of powerd (powerd spys on a serial port and will fork() a
'shutdown' if the serial port state suggests that wall power has
failed). 

Basically there are three flavors of UPSs:

mindless, dumb, and smart.

Mindless: has no serial port at all (you can still use one of these for
a smart shutdown -- see below).

Dumb: has a serial port, but only diddles one signal line (DTR or
something) -- powerd likes these.

Smart: has some *clever* protocol -- sends real live messages over the
serial port.  powerd does not like these.  *Some* of the UPS vendors
have Linux daemons for these.  For others there are GPL daemons (reverse
engineered) available.  For all others, they can be treated as
expensive UPSs of the 'mindless' type.

For mindless UPSs and for smart ones without available matching
software, all it NOT lost.  There is a 'trick': get a random old
*external* modem (make use of the old USR HST modem or that ratty old
USR Courier 2400 modem, etc.).  Speed, etc. not important.  Plug the modem's
transformer plug into the *wall* outlet, plug the RS232 to COM<N>
(/dev/ttyS<N-1>). Plug the UPS into the wall and the computer into the
UPS.  Tell powerd to watch the port with the modem's DTR line.  The
modem will assert DTR so long as it has power.  When a power failure
happens the modem loses power (wall power == 0VAC).  Computer is still
alive (UPS is on battery power and providing 120VAC for a short while).
No DTR == no wall power.  Time to 'shutdown -h +?' (? == max number of
minutes we can live off the UPS, less the time it will take to
shutdown). 

DS> 
DS> -- 
DS> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
DS> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
DS> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
DS> 
DS> The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
DS>     --- Devon Miller
DS>               






                                                                                       
            
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UPS with serial port
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:09:23 GMT

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent),
  In a message on 24 Jul 2000 14:47:50 GMT, wrote :

BT> 
BT> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:00:01 GMT, David Steuber wrote:
BT>  >
BT>  >I'm looking for recomendations for UPSs that Linux can work with to do
BT>  >a proper shutdown.  
BT> 
BT> I use Powerware model 3115.  Comes with a cable and software that is
BT> Linux-compatible.  The 300VA model seems to have enough power to
BT> keep a box running for at least 10 minutes (*without* the monitor 
BT> on the protected circuit).  I've installed three so far.

Yeah, the Powerware's are nice little boxes.  The software even has a
network client/server function to allow multiple computers to share a
UPS with one computer as 'master' (has the serial cable) and the other
as slaves (talk to the master via TCP/IP).

BT> 
BT> Bob T.
BT>                                                                                    
 






                                                                                       
                   
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From: "Phillip Zheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: df shows 100% used, after I removed files, it's still 100% used
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:17:03 GMT

Hi,

I am using Linux 6.0 for over one year now. One day I found my /dev/hda1 is
100% used, I started moving file to different partition and deleted unwanted
files; at the end I still found 100% used. Then of course I thought of
checking the file system, I managed to boot it with a floppy and checked
/dev/hda1 with fsck. It reported file system is clean, but /dev/hda1 is
still 100%. What else I can try? Your help is greatly appreciated.

Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1              1897455   1895600         0 100% /
/dev/hdb1              1981000    175507   1703081   9% /scd
/dev/hdb5              5986826   4211230   1465544  74% /public

Thanks,
Phillip Zheng




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From: "Aurelien Marchand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: telnetd: All network ports in use
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:22:14 GMT

Make sure there are not any apps using the telnet ports....
Or maybe someone's backdoor.... :)

list all sockets activities with
# netstat -pant

You might get to see a bit more....

Salut
Aurelien

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8lduv0$9t1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I've been running telnetd under inetd with kernel 2.2.5-15.  After I
>upgraded to kernel 2.2.16-3, telnet clients are rejected with the
>message "telnetd: All network ports in use". Other ports and daemons
>like ftpd and httpd work fine with both kernels.
>
>What is this message trying to tell me?
>
>  advTHANKSance
>  Alan
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Piers B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:53:06 +1000

What does your grandmother do with her computer??????????/

Piers B
"Kelly and Sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:MztuwCAZ6Ne5Ew$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In a alt.os.linux.mandrake newsletter entitled "LINUX SUX THE BIG
> WAZOO!", Rootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> >Linux isn't for everyone it certainly isn't for the average user
> >for a desktop PC - although it will gladly fill that role if
> >desired.  It requires the user to relearn a lot of the ingrained
> >ideas that MS has foisted off on us over the years and forces the
> >user to actually understand what he is doing.
> >
> >If you don't like it then don't use it.  Donate you CD to a local
> >school or friend who can put it to use.  Linux works, it was you
> >that failed to understand it's intracasies and nuances.  Move on,
> >go back to Windows and chalk it up to experience.
>
>
>     My middle name is "Newbie".
>
>
>     I'd like to ask any people who happen to be browsing this newsletter
> what viable personal computer operating  systems  are  available  today,
> besides your Microsoft.
>
>
>     There's the Macintosh (MacOS)    Next computer I get will be a Mac.
>     There's Linux                    Hmm, we all know and love this one.
>     There's Oberon                   Not cooperative multitasking?
>     There's BeOS                     Thin, very thin, last I looked.
>     There's EPOC32                   Nice. Is this only for handhelds?
>     There's OS2                      Not sure. Is this still ongoing?
>
>
>     By  "viable",  I refer to the intuited meaning:  that my grandmother
> could start use it and begin to think of the computer as  her  "personal
> computer".
>
>
>     In all seriousness, is there anything else I should consider?
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
>
> Sandy
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: zip as /dev/hdc
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:50:38 GMT

Hi,

I would like to create a bootable zip disk. I have gone through the
various howtos.

Most examples states the zip as a /dev/sda device. Can I use /dev/hdc
instead? Would it be because of this that I am getting these errors?

I have no problems creating a hdc4 partition on my zip disk, formating
it as fat16. But when I start copying the various .img files to my zip
disk, I get these errors:

========================================================

ide_floppy:hdc:I/O error, pc=2a, key=4, asc=47, ascq=0
end_request:I/O error, dev 16:04(hdc), sector 133
...

========================================================


Please advice on my mistake. Thanks.



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