Linux-Misc Digest #270, Volume #25               Sat, 29 Jul 00 11:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: finding my hacks ("robin")
  Script help ("David ..")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (brian moore)
  Backup solution with cdwrite (Johannes Rest)
  Re: 'Possible to remotely run root through telnet? (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Conectiva Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: downloading (Stanislaw Flatto)
  (Q) Majordomo vs Mailman (Timothy Murphy)
  Single Linux DHCP machine serving different Network ??? (andrew)
  Re: Audio CD's not playing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Backup solution with cdwrite (Frank Hahn)
  help needed with a pcmpci modem (michele)
  Re: what to demo during a linux talk (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Script help (Maik unruh)
  Re: daemon died (Leif Kremkow)
  Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
  Re: Single Linux DHCP machine serving different Network ??? (Chris Beauchamp)
  Error on talk?? (Davis Eric)
  Linux on Mac LC III possible? (Jeff Pierce)
  Database powered websites on Linux ("Denis L. Menezes")

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From: "robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: finding my hacks
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:13:36 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry Ebbitt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> robin wrote:
 ...
> You really have to keep notes  documenting all the changes you make.  I
> don't mean to sound like an old professor, I'm just finding out the same
> thing and trying to teach myself such behavior to preserve what little
> is left of my sanity.  My memory is no longer a factor <g>.
> 
mumble mumble I guess you are right. dribble :)

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Script help
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 03:03:13 -0500

I am trying to compile a directory of rpm files without having to do
them one at a time. The script below works but only compiles the first
rpm in the directory. What am I missing to make it continue through all
the files in the directory.

for i in /path/to/*; do rpm --rebuild $i; done

-- 
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Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 29 Jul 2000 08:23:39 GMT

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:20:16 -0700, 
 blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> brian moore wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:47:24 -0700,
> >  blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Red Hat is a sinking ship?
> > >
> > > Red Hat's CFO is abandoning ship.
> > 
> > Or he got a better offer.  Or he likes California more than North
> > Carolina.. or lots of things.
> > 
> > > http://www.it-director.com/00-07-28-3.html
> > 
> > Gads, you get business analysis from an IT trade rag?  That's akin to
> > using Penthouse as a dating guide.
> > 
> No.  Wall Street told me RH is a sinking ship.

A place?

> Have you ever wonder why Bob Young dumped almost half of his shares of
> RH right before 
> the RH shares hit below ground zero?

Let's see, 6 months (I wonder if that's a magic number?  nah, couldn't
be... that would be too obvious) to the day after the IPO, Mr Young
cashed in some of his shares.  Nowhere near half of them, though.  God
forbid he should benefit from his business.

I don't see any other notices of Mr Young selling his shares.  I do
see that he gave 140k shares to someone as a gift on April 21, 2000. 
(Pretty nice gift, eh?)

As for "below ground zero", they're trading at above what they IPO'd
for.  (Not what speculators drove the price to, but what they and their
underwriters determined was a fair price for equity.)

Considering that Microsoft is at about 60% or so of what they were at a
year ago, I'd say that's pretty good.

> And why Bill Gates (yes, the Microsoft's CEO Gates.) filed at the FTC to
> dump almost $500million worth of RH shares shartly after Bob Young
> dumped his?
> 
> Why Bill Gates owns so much of RH? How much more RH shares Gates still
> owns?

Because Gates has a lot of money and invests it in a lot of things?

Of course, typical of your nonsense, Gates didn't sell $500M worth of RH
stock.  He doesn't own that much.  He sold $450k worth of stock.
Cascade Investment, LLC owns roughly 4 million shares of RH stock.  At
$18/share, that's, what, $72M total?  RedHat has roughly 157M shares of
stock outstanding.  So Cascade had as much as, what, 2.5% of it?

Last I checked, owning stock in a company didn't give you control of
their day to day operations, especially when it's only 2.5%.

> > Get a clue.
> > 
> Vi messed up your head!?

Nope.  Has trying to use Netscape for usenet messed up yours?

> I read WSJ, Barrons and Forbe for financial news.

Uh-huh.  But you didn't choose to look this up in any of them?

When you are as -wrong- as you are about the "$500million worth of RH
shares" that Gates supposedly sold, why would anyone trust your other
"facts"?  Being off by a factor of 1000 is a sign you should actually
-read- the journals you claim to read.

Look, if you don't like RedHat (I don't), at least use -valid- reasons
to criticize them.  Don't just make up bullshit: it makes you look
stupid.  Complain about their lack of quality review, complain about
the chaos that contrib RPMs create, complain about their bizarre ideas
of how the file heirarchy works.  But as long as you continue to post
blatant lies, you will continue to come across as a raving lunatic.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: Johannes Rest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Backup solution with cdwrite
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:28:10 +0200

Hi!

I'm looking for a backup solution for my linux box at home. It has

an atapi cd burner which works fine burning music cd (xcdroast).

My problem is that I cannot create any data cds with cd-rw's.

I would like to backup some important files to rewritable cds.

Does anybody out has a solution or can give me some hints how

to do it?

Thanks in advance

Johannes

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Therese-Giehse-Allee 35         http://www.johannes-rest.de
81739 Muenchen, Germany
Tel +49 89 6376287, Fax +49 40 3603 280634




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: 'Possible to remotely run root through telnet?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:46:22 -0500

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  .. wrote:
>
>> OpenBSD WON'T even allow you to login as root from anywhere other than
>> from the local terminal.
>
>Do you mean remote administration isn't done?

I would (perhaps erroneously) assume that an "su -" is still possible
on OpenBSD, as it is in Linux, after one signs into a normal user acct.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Bloomington, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                The next message is a complete fabrication.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Conectiva Linux
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:36:24 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Frank Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Conectiva Linux is possibly the most widely used linux in
> Latin America. (http://www.conectiva.com/) Anyone know
> where I could order a CD in the US?
> Frank Arnold
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Try http://www.conectiva.com.br/   (portuguese)
       http://en.conectiva.com/       (english)

   []'s

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: downloading
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:52:20 +0000

Trevor Brown wrote:

> Hi:
>
> What I'm wondering is if I can download a Linux program in Windows to a
> file, and then access it in Linux later.  Will the program survive the
> translation process, or not?  If I have to have my internet access in
> Linux, then I'm going to have to spend some more money to get that to
> happen.  Right now I've got Juno, but they are MS Windows only.
>
> --
> Trevor

What is your ISP using - tam-tam drums for info exchange?
Been with few ISP's and tcp/ip on ppp connection worked with MS-Glassware
and Linux.
To the point - you can download in one OS and later transfer to another.
Have fun...

--
    Stanislaw on Slak 7.1
Registered on Linux counter No.162760.
Even put Ulladulla on their database.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: (Q) Majordomo vs Mailman
Date: 29 Jul 2000 11:53:22 +0100

We're presently running majordomo,
but I'd heard good things about mailman.

The mailman documentation seemed sketchy,
to put it charitably,
but the web features seemed a definite plus.

It wasn't clear to me if many people are running mailman.
Any comments or advice gratefully received.



-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Single Linux DHCP machine serving different Network ???
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:51:29 +0800

How to configure the DHCP server to serve two different Class D network?

I can configure a Linux box with 2 NIC.

thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Audio CD's not playing
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:21:53 GMT

I've tried it as root and as an ordinary user, the same result. I'ts an
IDE drive but I'm using SCSI emulation.

The problem still persists, the drive will spin up for data CD's but it
won't for audio CD's.
The drive doesn't have a physical 'play' button so I can't even try
that.

Anyone else got any ideas?


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I'm having trouble playing audio CD's. The application (tcd in
console
> > , xmms in X) reads the correct number of tracks and the length of
the
> > track, however it will not play them, the time inside the app does
not
> > progress at all and the CD does not spin up.
>
> First I was going to say "cable from drive to sound card"--but you
> said that.  Darn.
>
> Then I was going to say "what kind of drive is it?"--you said SCSI.
> OK.
>
> How about this: I have a similar problem with my MP3 ripping software
> not being able to access CDs in the drive.  I found I had to do two
> things.  1) Enable "generic" SCSI devices in the kernel.  2) Run the
> program as root.
>
> This second is puzzling--I know for sure this used to work, but I
> don't remember when that was.  It could have been a kernel problem, it
> could have been something else.  It is NOT a permissions problem.
>
> Anyway, try logging in as root and see what happens.
>
> --
> My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Backup solution with cdwrite
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:47:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:28:10 +0200, Johannes Rest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My problem is that I cannot create any data cds with cd-rw's.
>
>I would like to backup some important files to rewritable cds.
>
>Does anybody out has a solution or can give me some hints how
>to do it?
>
One possible solution is to search http://freshmeat.net for the
program called backburner.

Here is the description from Freshmeat:

"Backburner is a collection of Perl scripts that allow you to easily and
permanently compress and capture any Unix stream to an indefinite sequence of
a specified media (including CD-Recordable, CD-ReWritable, Floppy Disk, any
mountable media, NFS, FTP, etc.). The captured stream may later be
reconstituted on any system and turned back into a live stream for further use."

Hope this helps.

-- 
Frank Hahn

If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
As Dame Fortune did intend,
Murphy would be there to tell me
The pot's at the other end.
                -- Bert Whitney

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From: michele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: help needed with a pcmpci modem
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:36:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I'm trying to install Linux on my Dell Latitude CPx laptop.
Everything is fine except that I can't get the modem to work.
The modem is a "RealPort 2 CardBus Modem 56 Win-GlobalACCESS"
and when the pcmpci support gets loaded during the boot the modem
gets locked up (red light on and "modem is busy" message from
kppp if you try to use it).

Any idea about how to set it up?
 Thanks in advance for your time
  Michele

(p.s. the reply address is correct)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: what to demo during a linux talk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:50:56 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>I am going to have a talk on Linux. The audience will be
>the managers of some businesses in Macau. There will be
>a live demo on Linux. I was wondering what kind of stuff
>should I demonstrate? The Linux box will not be connected
>to a network.

What do you think they'd care about?

I suspect that a K001 demo of OpenGL and the Enlightenment window manager
is not likely to fly; that's liable to be useless eye candy to them.

The lack of network is highly unfortunate, as one of the things
likely to look real useful is the ability to provide network 
services, including:
 - File server stuff [Novell + SMB + AppleTalk emulation/replacement]
 - Web server stuff, probably keeping it simple
 - Mail server
 - Web Cache/Proxy, Firewall

You might install a relational database or two (Oracle?  PostgreSQL?)
and demonstrate that it can provide what they'd pay MSFT quite a bit for
to get SQL Server licenses.
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mice vs. trackballs...It was very silly." -- Matt Welsh

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From: Maik unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script help
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:59:23 +0200

"David .." wrote:
> 
> I am trying to compile a directory of rpm files without having to do
> them one at a time. The script below works but only compiles the first
> rpm in the directory. What am I missing to make it continue through all
> the files in the directory.
> 
> for i in /path/to/*; do rpm --rebuild $i; done
> 

Hi!

Ihad the same problem some time ago. I dont know anymore how i fixed it,
but just give it a try:

cd /path/to
for i in * 
do
  rpm --rebuild $i
done
cd /

CU
Maik

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hard- & software   web-design   domain-hosting

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From: Leif Kremkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: daemon died
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:53:41 +0000

Maybe this helps...

EXIT STATUS
16     The link was terminated by the modem hanging up.

Take a look at your syslog file (/var/log/messages ?) to see what pppd
said.

But it seems that your username are somehow wrong.

If this is no help - post the relevant excerpts of the log and config
files off ppp ...

Regards,,
leif

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:03:43 GMT


>       directories:
>       .gnome
>       .gnome-desktop
>       .gnome-private
>       .xauth
>       .ICEauthority

>       file:
>       .Xauthority
>       .Xresources

> you may want to back them up before removing them.

Thanks, that did it!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Beauchamp)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Single Linux DHCP machine serving different Network ???
Date: 29 Jul 2000 14:43:23 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, andrew wrote:
>How to configure the DHCP server to serve two different Class D network?
>
>I can configure a Linux box with 2 NIC.

If you're actually _on_ the two networks concerned, then just set-up two
subnets sections in dhcpd.conf (assuming ISC DHCPD) for the two networks. It
will work out which one it should be giving out an IP address for.

HTH

Chris

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From: Davis Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error on talk??
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:44:30 GMT

Hi, there,

I am using a Red Hat 6.2 at my home. When I was tweaking my machine, I
tried "talk". I set up two normal user accounts for my self. And I tried
to talk from one to another. But I received the following message:

=======[ Couldn't bind local control socket: Cannot assign requested
address. Press any key... ]---------------

It seems there is some problem of resolving the address.
But when I tried "talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]", I still got the same error.

No clue about it.

Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

--
I do not feel shameful if I was and am an idiot; I
will feel shameful if I haven't realized it.
                                        --Myself


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Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:09:38 -0400
From: Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Linux on Mac LC III possible?

I was recently given a Mac LC III with a CRT< 500 meg hard drive,
external CD and eerything else. Is there a Linux distro for it??

I would like to use it as a networking gateway/Ip masqurade syestem if
possible. If not I plan to either try to sell it at a hamfest, and
failing at that, donate it to a local Community College.

P.S. I a not a Mac person...

Please reply via Email also...

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From: "Denis L. Menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Database powered websites on Linux
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:07:09 +0800

Hello friends.

I have setup Linux 6.2, Apache webserver and PostgreSQL. I now wish to
develop database driven websites. In my job I do not get much time for such
development and I am working this at home, hence, I am looking for a good
language for building the pages on queries etc.

Can anyone suggest which is good - PHP or CGI or is there any easier
language?

Thanks

Denis



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