Linux-Misc Digest #346, Volume #25 Fri, 4 Aug 00 21:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Error running "configure" scripts (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Can I pass sockets between processes (David Rysdam)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: sound card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: rsh and password (David Steuber)
detecting my ethernet card? (Peter Bismuti)
Can't kill mt ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
*Virtual Desktops* (N/A)
Virtual Desktops (N/A)
Re: PPP and Concentric networks dialin (Robert Jones)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (phil hunt)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Mike Stump)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Error running "configure" scripts
Date: 4 Aug 2000 23:01:40 GMT
Chris Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Hi! (newbie calling)
[ When I run any configure scripts (but particularly
[ sawfish 0.27.2) I get the following error:
[ "checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type;
[ you must specify one"
[ and then the script stops running. Can someone please explain why it is
[ doing this and how I can fix it? Thanks
you can do either
more configure
or
./configure --help
They usually inform you what to put in there
IIRC host system type is where you indicate i486 i586 (take your pick)
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I pass sockets between processes
Date: 04 Aug 2000 18:25:35 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bacon) writes:
> Yes, it is possible for two processes to read from the same socket,
> but you have to be aware that they will be competing for the same
> date, i.e. you'll have to take measures to prevent B from reading
> data that is intended for C.
>
> B will need to send some information about the socket to C, so that
> C can open it's own file descriptor to read from the socket. There
> are a lot of ways to do this, the simplest of which would probably
> be using a named pipe (created by mkfifo()), which is a higher level
> interface usually implemented using sockets at a lower level.
> This will ONLY work for IPC between processes on the same host.
Actually, if you install DIPC (Distributed IPC) you can do it between
hosts as well...
> Good luck,
>
> -Jason
>
> Shawn Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:32:57 +0100, "Gast Primus"
> : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : >Hi
> : >
> : >This is my problem I hope you can help.
> : >
> : >I have 3 processes A B and C running on a single processor. A writes to B
> : >via a socket, B reads the info and passes it on to C via a socket. Is it
> : >possible for B to pass A's socket to C so they can read and write directly
> : >returning the socket to B when communication is over.
> : >
> : >References to books, man pages etc would be appreciated.
> : >
> : >Thanks
> : >
> : >Iain
> : >
> : >NB I am running Red hat 5.1 but will upgrade if this helps
>
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:02:33 GMT
Johan Kullstam writes:
> you may be of the monetarist religion,...
I am not of any religion, be it monetarist or Lutheran.
> ...but keynesian economics is hardly uncoventional.
Though it has proven to have little predictive value.
> ...and i think it [a distinction between government and economy]
> is a completely worthless approximation.
I think you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that one can pretend that
government does not exist while studying an economy, just that one can
usefully hold government constant while doing so (and vice-versa). In the
US at least, they are sufficiently distinct to be advantageously treated as
two coupled systems.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:21:47 GMT
Phillip Lord writes:
> It [treating government and economy as seperate systems] is also
> ideological,...
It's only as ideological as you think it is. To me it is just a useful
approximation that helps me make some progress toward understanding human
society.
> I can not see why a feudal hierarchy is seen to be a bad thing in
> government but the normal accepted practice in industry.
Neither do I, but that is even farther off-topic then the current
discussion.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:26:28 GMT
Phillip Lord writes:
> ...execute...invaded...massacred...US and UK made weapons,...
> ...attempts to sabotage...front...
>plonk<
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: sound card
Date: 4 Aug 2000 23:23:14 GMT
I still think you need to get a recent snapshot. I don't know what version
came with the kernel, but earlier versions weren't SMP compatible.
Go here:
http://opensource.creative.com/snapshot.html
and click
emu10k1-20000804.tar.gz
Or did you do that already. What you're showing me seems like the problem I
had with the drivers that came with the linux kernel - card detected and
config'ed but no sound.
Don't worry about the synth device not being supported. If you need MIDI go
for the ALSA drivers (www.alsa-project.org)
Sorry, but I don't know what to suggest other than my first reply. Let me
know if I misunderstood something here.
Chris
In alt.os.linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: This is my /dev/sndstat (below)
: it seems that the card is configured but not detected (according to
: HOWTOs) What should i do?
: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
: Load type: Driver loaded as a module
: Kernel: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.2.14-6.1.1smp #1 SMP Thu Apr 13
: 19:55:55 EDT 2000 i686
: Config options: 0
: Installed drivers:
: Type 0: Creative EMU10K1 (0.4)
: Card config:
: (Sound Blaster Live! at 0xe460 irq 16)
: Audio devices:
: 0: Sound Blaster Live! (DUPLEX)
: Synth devices:
: Not supported by current driver
: Midi devices:
: 0: Sound Blaster Live!
: Timers:
: 0: System Clock
: Mixers:
: 0: Sound Blaster Live!
: In article <8mf7lo$51f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> Not sure why but I've had problems with the version of the sblive
: drivers
:> that comes with the kernel. On one system the sound from sndconfig
: was clear
:> but garbled, on a second it was very faint and garbled.
:>
:> Grab the latest snapshot at opensource.creative.com. If your compiler
: is set
:> up right the install should take under 10 seconds. (only slight
: exaggeration)
:>
:> tar zxvf emu101k?.tar.gz
:> cd emu101k
:> make
:> sudo make install (or "su" followed by "make install" if you don't use
: "sudo")
:>
:> We got our PC through a local vendor and shelled out $50 for the
: "shareware
:> version" of Redhat 6.2 (what we could have downloaded ourselves free
: had we
:> wanted to spend the time). What we got was a system with no hardware
:> configured and *every* *single* rpm from the CD installed on our
: harddrive.
:> We were not pleased. It would be nice if Dell had updated the sound
: drivers
:> for you, but I'm used to having to go out and get the latest drivers
: on
:> Windows PCs too, so I guess this isn't so bad.
:>
:> Chris
:>
:> In alt.os.linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> : Hi,
:>
:> : Our new Dell Linux box came with Soundblaster Live! Sound card. I'm
:> : having difficulty getting it to play music, etc. I get the system
: beep
:> : THROUGH THE SPEAKERS though. sndconfig runs smoothly, but the sound
:> : sample can not be heard. Selecting Soundblaster Live! manually
: doesn't
:> : change anything.
:>
:> : What should I do? How can I find out if the kernel needs to be
:> : recompiled? It's a shame that this doesn't work, because we paid
: GOOD
:> : money to buy a pre-installed system from Dell, and it doesn't quite
:> : work, while my cheap WinPC at home runs RedHat6.2 flawlessly.
:>
:> : Thanks a bunch
:>
:> : Wroot
:>
:> : P.S. Model: Creative Labs | SB Live! EMU10000
:>
:> : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
:> : Before you buy.
:>
: Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:25:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) wrote:
>Would you mind backing this statement up with some facts, please?
In this case there is no other possible explanation than cyclic
partition tables. A tool that make these is not suitable. If you
believe a suitable partitioning tool exist for Linux, you are welcome
to name one, and I will test it, and tell you why it is not.
>I partitioned both a 6 and 4 GIG HDD with SuSE Linux 6.4, installed
>SuSE, then installed Win'98SE on the FAT32 partition I'd previously
>created with SuSE. Both OSs boot without any problems. Windoze doesn't
>see my ext2 or swap partitions, which is exactly the behaviour I was
>looking for.
This is a matter of luck. The remarks in the fdisk manual page
(version 2.9y) can be extended to other Linux partitioning tools as
well:
"fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things - usually it happens
to produce reasonable results. Its single advantage is that it has
some support for BSD disk labels and other non-DOS partition tables.
Avoid it if you can."
>His problem more likely lies in the fact that his system (BIOS) is too
>old to recognize the large HDD. The fact that in the first place he
>could only see 8GB should have been the first clue. Installing Windoze
>on it was likely his first mistake.
>
>My advice to the original poster; try to find a recent BIOS flash on
>the manufacturers's website and see if that'll allow you to see a HDD
>larger than 8GB. Failing that, I'm afraid a hardware upgrade would be
>the only other avenue I could forsee.
There is no way missing BIOS support for disks larger than 8 GB could
have any influence in this case. If this is attempted, and it
succeeds, it is a matter of luck. Something then was done differently.
--
Svend Olaf
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Subject: Re: rsh and password
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:00:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
' > Aug 4 05:16:46 apostrophe modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10
' > Aug 4 05:16:46 apostrophe sshd[26440]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
' > Aug 4 05:16:46 apostrophe sshd[26440]: Generating 768 bit RSA key.
' > Aug 4 05:16:46 apostrophe sshd[26440]: RSA key generation complete.
' > Aug 4 05:17:05 apostrophe inetd[26443]: execv /usr/local/sbin/sshd2: No such file
or directory
' > Aug 4 05:17:11 apostrophe inetd[26444]: execv /usr/local/sbin/sshd2: No such file
or directory
' >
' > I really appreciate the help given so far. I see an alarm bell in the
' > first line of /var/log/messages about the modprobe. This seems like
' > it might be important. Do I need to rebuild my kernel to support this
' > module? If so, where in menuconfig can I find it so that I may add
' > it? What about /usr/local/sbin/sshd2? Why didn't make install
' > install it? Should it be a symbolic link to /usr/local/sbin/sshd?
'
' That module is for IP6. You don't need it.
'
' Why is inetd trying to spawn sshd2? You don't want to do that. (sshd
' generates a bunch of random numbers for a key on startup, and that can
' take a while depending on the entropy pool of your machine... you don't
' want to do that with every session.)
Son of a bitch!!!!
It looks like I forgot to kill -HUP /usr/sbin/inetd when I removed
ssh2 (non free) from it. Here is my new login attempt:
david@solo:> ssh apostrophe -v
SSH Version OpenSSH_2.1.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
debug: Applying options for *
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 500 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to apostrophe.david-steuber.com [::ffff:10.7.7.11] port 22.
rresvport: af=10 Invalid argument
debug: Connecting to apostrophe.david-steuber.com [10.7.7.11] port 22.
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: Allocated local port 636.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.1.1
debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.1.1
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
The authenticity of host 'apostrophe.david-steuber.com' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is 8f:42:c9:bd:a9:ef:8f:09:98:ed:b8:a4:fb:32:ff:6b.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'apostrophe.david-steuber.com,10.7.7.11' (RSA) to the list
of known hosts.
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: Encryption type: 3des
debug: Sent encrypted session key.
debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
debug: Received encrypted confirmation.
debug: Doing password authentication.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
debug: Requesting pty.
debug: Requesting shell.
debug: Entering interactive session.
Last login: Tue Aug 1 22:06:19 2000 from solo.david-steuber.com
Have a lot of fun...
david@apostrophe:~ >
Does this look right to you for a first time login?
I've got a shell. That is a big start. I can su to root. This is
good. Very good. Now, how do I do the following:
1) copy files from one machine to another (apostrophe will be moved to
another physical location and be on another network)
2) run X applications on apostrophe with their display showing up on
my terminal
?
I just noticed I'm using protocol 1.99. I want to use protocol 2.0.
I've run ssh-keygen, so I should have the right keys in the right
places. I probably have to tweak /usr/local/etc/ssh_config on solo
and /usr/local/etc/sshd_config on apostrophe.
Once I have those things working, I should have full, secure, remote
control of that machine.
Thanks a bunch so far.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
--- Devon Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: detecting my ethernet card?
Date: 4 Aug 2000 23:56:42 GMT
Are there any linux tools for detecting an ethernet card after installation?
Netconf perhaps?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't kill mt
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 23:58:56 GMT
I am having a weird problem with mt. Sometime we have problems running
mt erase on tapes. No big deal. However, I cannot kill mt to retry.
Once one backup has a problem we have to completely reboot to kill mt.
'kill mt' doesn't work nor does 'kill -9 mt' even going down to single
user mode doesn't kill it. How do you kill that darn program without
rebooting?
All help appreciated,
Mark Alston
The Beer Nut, Inc.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 17:17:24 -0700
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:54:24 -0700
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >The arguement of costs is not important at all.
> >
> >At least for any real businesses.
> >
> >You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> >tax deductable.
> >
> >The money has got to go, either to the software companies, or to the tax
> >collectors.
> >
> >So. Tell me where's the *real* saving!!!???
> >
>
> Does tax deductability work differently in the US?
>
I don't know. I'll have to ask my cousin in Australia.
> Here, you deduct it from your taxable income, not the tax you pay.
>
So. If you can deduct it from your taxable income, you're than paying
less tax. Isn't it? Mate!?
> So at best you save the tax that would be paid on the amount, not the
> amount.
>
> The costs must count, else who would bother pirating? And plenty of
> businesses *do* pirate, ask any of the vendor's associations.
>
To a certain extend. Yes.
For private end users, and very small shops, probably.
But for medium size and up biz. Not really. A few thousands, or even a
million or two,
might just be the amount that they put in the monthly petty cash.
> The choice of linux v MS isn't money, I agree. It's what software is
> best for the job.
>
> And that's a very individual decision.
>
I absolute agree with you on this.
> THe company I work for has one windows machine for checking the
> Director applications work correctly and we have the installer
> working.
>
> Everything else is Mac or Linux. Mac because it's best for the
> graphics people and Linux running the servers - mail and web. Plus
> linux in all the remote locations because it is efficient and can be
> remotely administered.
>
Yeah. Chose the right tool for the right job is the best way to go.
> Zebee
--
- Alex / blowfish.
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lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
KISS rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee). Small. Simple and fast.
:-)
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needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: *Virtual Desktops*
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:30:04 GMT
how do i turn off off virtual desktops so i can use xvidtune so i can stop
my display from being MASSIVELY large so i can see it all!!!!
explain in newbie language please thank you.
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Virtual Desktops
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:30:04 GMT
how do i turn off off virtual desktops so i can use xvidtune so i can stop
my display from being MASSIVELY large so i can see it all!!!!
explain in newbie language please thank you.
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPP and Concentric networks dialin
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 19:52:03 -0500
Alex Deucher wrote:
> PPP is driving me nuts!!!
>
> I have a ppp account with concentric networks. I use windows NT and
> linux. I'd like to not have to use NT anymore, but For the life of me I
> just can't seem to get the dialup to work under linux. I first tried
> the graphical dialers, (e.g., rp3, etc.) all they would do is lock up
> the modem, requiring a reboot. SO next I started writing my own scrips
> with chat. All seemed good. Now here is the WEIRD part...
>
> When I set up a dialup connection in NT and and enter my login and
> password, everything connects fine (in fact I'm using it now). However,
> if I try to login manually using the NT dialup networking, or I try to
> login using hyperterminal, it always rejects my username and password.
> I've checked and double checked to make sure I'm doing it right. WHY
> does it work with the automated NT Dialer, but not with a manual
> dialin!!!
>
> help,
>
> Alex
I can't speak to the NT problem, but my Linux PPP problems were solved
after I visited http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html and worked
through the problem step by step as outlined there. I hope your results
are equally satisfying.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:40:32 +0100
On 04 Aug 2000 12:59:37 -0400, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The government effects the economy enormously by the simple act of being
>> > there and spending as much cash as it does, and the economy massively
>> > effects the government and what it can do.
>>
>> Nonetheless, treating the economy and the government as seperate systems is
>> a useful approximation,
>
>and i think it's a completely worthless approximation.
So do I. How many econometric models treat the govmt as being totally separate
from the economy? None, because it is a bloody silly idea.
--
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stump)
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:52:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If capitalism is so wonderful why then is it investing in a massively
>repressive regime?
Uhm, dumb answer of the week, to make money?
>And why does the indispensable nation which is so totally committed
>to freedom give it preferred trading status.
You mean, normal trading status? The term preferred isn't used anymore.
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