Linux-Misc Digest #407, Volume #25 Thu, 10 Aug 00 17:13:04 EDT
Contents:
How to restore IP table on startup? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to copy a diskette? (Carl Benson)
Re: ssl and mail (imap) (jtoy)
Re: those damn ^M characters from win files... (Robert Heller)
Re: NEC versa 4080H + linux ? (Robert Heller)
Re: booting Linux after installing Windows (Robert Heller)
Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98 (Robert Heller)
Re: ssl and mail (imap) (jtoy)
Re: ssl and mail (imap) (jtoy)
Re: Off topic question about colors (John Roberts)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ("Peter T. Breuer")
samba + win98 problems (vanepelw)
RealPlayer for RH 6.2 (Ramin Sina)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Re: mgetty: prevent answering (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: mgetty: prevent answering (M. Buchenrieder)
RealPlayer for RH 6.2 (Ramin Sina)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Re: samba + win98 problems (Dances With Crows)
Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install (Patton Echols)
Re: How to copy a diskette? (2:1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to restore IP table on startup?
Date: 10 Aug 2000 19:52:05 GMT
I'm running RedHat 6.1, and want to restore the kernel IP table on
startup. Manually I used 'route add' to set up the table, and had to do the
same again after my workstation got rebooted (cause unknown) over the weekend.
I believe it would have to execute after
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ipcfg-etho and ipcfg-lo or there wouldn't be a
reachable network (correct me if I'm mistaken). What kind of script can I use
(i.e., shell script or something like the network-scripts?), and what
directory should it be in? Is there a good howto available on this?
John Meshkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Carl Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:50:10 -0700
Okay, I'm officially frustrated. I've searched Linux Documentation
Project, O'Reilly books "Running Linux" and "Linux Network Admini-
strator's Guide", and this newsgroup.
How the heck do I make a copy of a diskette using Linux?
I don't want to mount it as a filesystem. I can imagine popping
the diskette into the drive, doing some command to read it and
create a disk image file, then swapping diskettes & copying the
disk image out to diskette. If I had a disk image, I suppose dd
would be the command to copy it out to the diskette.
But I have no idea what command(s) to use to read in a diskette
as a disk image. Can anyone help me, please?
You'd think no one used diskettes anymore!
--CarlB
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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.imap,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ssl and mail (imap)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:16:36 -0400
Hi, Thats exactly what I needed. I have a couple more questions
though. When I made my certificate, I needed to give it a FQDN(I think
thats how you speel it, its your hostname) I could only give it one.
The way we have our clients connecting is via regular ip (192.168.0.x
and 192.168.1.x) I could use my machines name instead, but sometimes the
lookups don't always work. We aren't using DNS, but Netbios/SMB. And
as you noticed we have 2 different subnets (192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x)
whcih cant be on the same subnet because they use 2 different
topologies(ethernet and VGAnyLAN). Do you have any suggestions or is
there a way to put multiple FQDNs? And my other question is what should
have been my encryption have been with the setup I described to you? I
thought it would come out as 128-bit seeing as I was using OpenSSL, but
it came out as 56-bit. Thanks for the help.
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: those damn ^M characters from win files...
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:03:20 GMT
"Kirk R. Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:20:42 -0500, wrote :
"RW> Thanks... I thought I had used something like that before.
"RW>
"RW> Kirk
"RW>
"RW> Andreas Kahari wrote:
"RW>
"RW> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"RW> > Kirk R. Wythers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"RW> > >Can anyone suggest a utility or better yet an option in an editor
"RW> > >(emacs, xemacs, vi, whatever...) that can search for and remove the
"RW> > >return characters (^M) from windows files? I'd appreciate it. Thanks,
"RW> > >
"RW> > >Kirk
"RW> > >
"RW> >
"RW> > See the 'dos2unix' command. On Debian GNU/Linux systems, it's
"RW> > available in the 'utils/sysutils' package.
On *any* distro:
tr -d '\r' <foo.msdos.text.file >foo.unix.text.file
"RW> >
"RW> > /A
"RW> >
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEC versa 4080H + linux ?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:03:22 GMT
shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:00:05 GMT, wrote :
s> greetings and salutations,
s>
s> im looking into buying a laptop (yay!) and the best deal i could find
s> (refurbished) was for this one called (name in subject). 120mhz cpu, 1
s> gig hdd, 40 meg ram, 11.3 tft display and a swappable 8x cdrom and
s> floppy drive. this setup is selling for $595.... first and foremost - is
This is a better deal than I got: $1000 for a 486/50, 32meg, .5gig HD,
no CD at all (AST 900N).
s> this a good deal im getting? ive havent bought hardware in a while so im
s> quite out of the loop... also id like to know if anyone has any info
s> pertaining to running linux on this particular machine.. i know that
s> laptop drivers and such are seemingly rare, so...
There is good news: support for *old* laptops is better than for *new*
laptops. The downside is it is not likely that your laptop can boot off
CD, so you will have some trouble (not really fatal). You have a couple
of options:
1) It should be possible to install a *reasonable*, stripped down Linux
in .5 gig, thus it should be possible to use the other .5 gig to hold
enough of the distro to install from HD.
2) How you get the files onto 1/2 the local disk in such a way to be able to
clobber the other 1/2 will be interesting.
Here is what *I* did to get Linux on my AST 900N (1/2 gig HD, NO
CD-ROM):
1) I have a desk top with plenty of disk space, a CD-ROM drive, and a
Zip Drive (all SCSI) and a NIC with a fully functional LAN.
2) I bought a PCMCIA NIC (3Com589C-Combo).
3) I downloaded Slackware 3.4 (more or less current at the time).
3a) bought a *big* box of floppies.
4) Created the A (base system) and N (networking) floppy sets.
5) Installed a *very* minimual Slackware system (A and some of N). Made
four partitions (sizes from memory -- don't have the Laptop fired up
right now)):
/ 64meg
<swap> 64meg
/usr 256meg
/home rest of disk
6) Then I copied a subset of RedHat 4.2 (current at the time) to /home and
made a RH 4.2 boot floppy (RedHat prio to 6.x cannot be installed over
the net via a PCMCIA NIC).
7) Installed a limited subset of RH 4.2 from the RPMs stashed in /home,
re-formatting / and /usr (but NOT /home!).
I have since upgraded to RH 5.2 (which was bit of a bear, due to
tightness of disk space).
I understand that RedHat has finally *fixed* their installer problems
with PCMCIA network (NFS/FTP) installation, so you should be able to go
that route, if you get yourself a PCMCIA NIC and a LAN to jack into --
local school/university? At the office? At a friends
(school/university/office/home) LAN?
Note: Slackware is not the most friendly install -- it is for the
hard-core hacker. It *does* (last I knew) support being installed from
floppies (MS-DOS floppies at that) -- this is great for older laptops
and other historical hardware, but it is kind of mind numbing for the
non ultra-geek.
One final note: you should visit the Linux Laptop support pages:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
s> thanks in advance
s>
s> shawn
s>
s>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: booting Linux after installing Windows
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:03:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:46:51 GMT, wrote :
s> hi,
s> I had a linux redhat 6.2 machine and I installed Windows. Now I'm not
s> getting the Lilo prompt. Is there anyway that I can boot the vmlinuz
s> image through a boot disk? Once I can acccess the linux partitions in my
s> computer , I can rewrite lilo using /sbin/lilo.
s> Thanks in avance
s> Sandy
You can try typing
linux root=/dev/hda?
at the Boot: prompt of the install floppy.
(replace ? with your Linux root file system)
You really *should* have make a bootdisk floppy *before* you installed
windows...
s>
s>
s> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
s> Before you buy.
s>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:03:21 GMT
Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:05:04 -0500, wrote :
TR> I recently removed Windows 98 from one of my PCs and replaced it with
TR> Linux (Red Hat 6.2). Before doing that I of course had to copy all
TR> files I wanted to keep from its Windows disk to another; the only such
TR> files were ~100 megabyte .zip files (backups), and I simply used the
TR> destination Win98 box to do the copying (via Windows networking, of
TR> course).
TR>
TR> The other PC is called Fred; Lucy is the PC which is changing
TR> Win98=>Linux. The backups (Lucy/Win98->Fred/Win98) copied over my
TR> 10BaseT network with an average rate of about 250 kByte/sec, measured
TR> using the System Monitor on Fred and watching File-system bytes
TR> written. While disappointing (theoretical maximum is about 4 times
TR> that rate; the Ethernet is otherwise idle as are both Fred and Lucy),
TR> this is what it is.
TR>
TR> I then did a complete install of Linux (Red Hat 6.2) onto Lucy, and
TR> got both networking and Samba working; Fred can mount a user's home
TR> from Lucy. I created a 10 mB file in my home and copied it to Fred
TR> in the same manner as before. This time the average rate is only about
TR> 80 kByte/sec. THAT'S TERRIBLE!!! This poor performance makes using
TR> Linux as a local disk server almost useless.
TR>
TR> Note that during these copies, Lucy/Win98 (the source) claimed its
TR> CPU is busy about 70%; Lucy/Linux (also the source) claimed about 5%
TR> (or less). For both copies, Fred/Win98 (the destination, doing the
TR> copy) claimed its CPU is 100% busy. On Fred, the disk-writing rate
TR> was steady at 250 kB/sec for Win98->Win98, but alternated each second
TR> between 125 kB/sec and 62 kB/sec for Linux->Win98.
TR>
TR> Do other people get better performance than this from Linux? Is this
TR> bottleneck likely to be the network interfaces (Lucy's is an ISA card
TR> using the driver ne.o)? Is this likely to be Samba? Or is it likely to
TR> be my IDE hard drive performance? How can I tune this better?
TR>
TR> But most importantly: How can Linux hope to succeed if it gives poorer
TR> performance _AS_A_SERVER_ than Win98??? Remember, this comparison used
TR> exactly the same hardware:
TR>
TR> Fred: Micron PC, Pentium 166 MHz, PCI network card.
TR> Lucy: Compaq PC, Pentium 233 MHz, ISA network card.
TR> Both have IDE drives only; Fred's destination is 8.6 GB
TR> (~50% full), Lucy's source is 4.1 GB (~80% full on Win98,
TR> ~20% full on Linux); all drives were checked and defragmented
TR> just before these copies were performed. Under Linux, pings
TR> Lucy->Fred->Lucy take an average of 0.8 ms, and a "flood
TR> ping" gets about 1000 packets per second.
I would guess it is the IDE hardware. Remember: Linux only has
*minimal* support for IDE/DMA drives -- Win* has better support for
this.
Note: *real* servers NEVER USE IDE DRIVES. They use SCSI.
Linux w/SCSI has much better performance, esp. with a decent card and a
good disk.
Also, the NE2000 ISA Ethernet cards are really low-end 'junk' cards.
Why do you have such a junky card in a P233 box? Do you really have ALL
of its PCI slots used up? At *least* get a 3Com 509B card!
TR>
TR>
TR> Tom Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TR>
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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.imap,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ssl and mail (imap)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:17:06 -0400
Hi, Thats exactly what I needed. I have a couple more questions
though. When I made my certificate, I needed to give it a FQDN(I think
thats how you speel it, its your hostname) I could only give it one.
The way we have our clients connecting is via regular ip (192.168.0.x
and 192.168.1.x) I could use my machines name instead, but sometimes the
lookups don't always work. We aren't using DNS, but Netbios/SMB. And
as you noticed we have 2 different subnets (192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x)
whcih cant be on the same subnet because they use 2 different
topologies(ethernet and VGAnyLAN). Do you have any suggestions or is
there a way to put multiple FQDNs? And my other question is what should
have been my encryption have been with the setup I described to you? I
thought it would come out as 128-bit seeing as I was using OpenSSL, but
it came out as 56-bit. Thanks for the help.
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net
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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.imap,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ssl and mail (imap)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:19:29 -0400
1 more question, what port will netscape use if I choose the option to use
SSL for outgoing mail(SMTP)? use port 25? Does this mean I need to use
stunnel with SMTP or......?
jtoy wrote:
> Hi, Thats exactly what I needed. I have a couple more questions
> though. When I made my certificate, I needed to give it a FQDN(I think
> thats how you speel it, its your hostname) I could only give it one.
> The way we have our clients connecting is via regular ip (192.168.0.x
> and 192.168.1.x) I could use my machines name instead, but sometimes the
> lookups don't always work. We aren't using DNS, but Netbios/SMB. And
> as you noticed we have 2 different subnets (192.168.0.x and 192.168.1.x)
> whcih cant be on the same subnet because they use 2 different
> topologies(ethernet and VGAnyLAN). Do you have any suggestions or is
> there a way to put multiple FQDNs? And my other question is what should
> have been my encryption have been with the setup I described to you? I
> thought it would come out as 128-bit seeing as I was using OpenSSL, but
> it came out as 56-bit. Thanks for the help.
> Jason Toy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://toy.eyep.net
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From: John Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off topic question about colors
Date: 10 Aug 2000 20:13:01 GMT
': 'Turns out he's not a student, but on the staff (grounds staff, if I
': 'recall)? I really should have deduced that - bayesian logic said he was
': 'not capable of being an academic student but I dismally failed to
': 'consider a large enough set of possibilities. He wasn't an academic or
': 'technical user at all! I don't think my assessment was inaccurate, but
': 'he was offended, so apologies .. I had this vision of ucdavis (which is
': 'a good place) being fooled by falsified SAT scores ...
': ': (The perfect combination for getting a job where you can use the immortal
': ': line "Do you want fries with that?")
': 'Hmmm ... no work available in cake shops? I believe you need minimum
': 'SAT scores in all areas anyway.
': 'Peter
': As I told you, out of the public eye, that I was not as proficent in
': computer as you. Since you have chosen to belittle me not once, but three
': times, I will only say one thing. Your parents named you well. You are
'Goodness gracious me! What makes you think you are being belittled! As
'far as I know, I respect you to the normal degree. I have nothing but
'What precisely is it you think is being belittled (or, conversely, being
'aggrandized)? I'm somewhat puzzled. Can you elaborate? It's all very
Read the smug statements above about SAT scores. Not TOO condesending?
Your "goodness gracious me" response brings to mind an old retort about
arguing with a ( and this is where it think it is relevant) woman.
The line is; " Arguing with a woman is like eating soup with a fork "
This thread has become tiresome.
John Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 10 Aug 2000 20:14:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: John Hasler wrote:
:> blowfish writes:
: Then, please enlighten me in how to make $25k for no reason.
: I don't mind to have that happen to me a few times a year. :-)
What's your problem? Invest in some shares at pre IPO prices. Sell them
post IPO.
To get offered shares at pre IPO prices, contribute free software
that is packaged by said IPOco.
Peter
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Subject: samba + win98 problems
From: vanepelw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:13:18 -0700
I am trying to network a linux machine (suse 6.4) with a windows
98 machine.
windows machine = Win98
Linux machine hostname = Linuxbox
i have (or am pretty sure i have) the settings in smb.conf
correct. i am running a checklist i found at the samba.org page,
and when i get to the test to ping my samba server, i have
problems.
at the dos prompt i type:
ping Linuxbox
the ping gets a reply from my Win98 machine's ip address. the
travel time is 0ms. i can ping the samba machine using its ip,
and it works fine.
somewhere in my win98 machine, some settings are incorrect. can
anyone direct me where to look??
thanks
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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer for RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:17:18 -0400
I installed rvplayer 5.0 ( ELF version) on my RH 6.2 and I get
segmentation file. Does anyone know if there is a more recent version
that works with linux or any other application/plugins I can use to
browse sound and video?
Thanks,
Ramin Sina
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 10 Aug 2000 16:28:45 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > when i write a math paper, i don't expect my mother/wife/girlfriend to
> > read it. it's in english, well, sort of. pick up a one of those
> > yellow springer-verlag books. nearly any of them will do. leaf
> > through it. it is equivalently comprehensible to a lot of source
> > code.
> Well. But math is still more readable to a lot more people than pure
> machine codings.
Will you get off that point already? How many times do people have to
tell you that it's totally irrelevant to the issue of free speech how
many people understand it!
Fine, I'll agree that math is more readable to a lot more people than
pure machine code, if it will make you happy. Where exactly does that
get us?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: mgetty: prevent answering
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:34:17 GMT
Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>I personally find it a little bit strange to put all files in
>/etc/mgetty+sendfax with the exception of nologin.ttyxx. But there might
>be a reason. Maybe someone can enlighten me (only concerning this issue
>please).
Reason? Probably not. The /etc/nologin.tty** option predates the
location of /etc/mgetty+sendfax/ for at least 5 - 7 years.
IIRC, that option was already setup that way in 1993 - whereas the
/etc/mgetty+sendfax location hasn't been invented prior to 1998 or
even 1999 .
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: mgetty: prevent answering
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:31:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
>How I read the poster's original question, is that he/she had already
>tried that, and found for some reason it wasn't working. I don't know
>why, I was just trying to throw up alternatives.
Well, at least you tried to be helpful...
>No, they weren't
>elegant. Downright ugly in places, which you've noted. :-)
Right . :-))
Michael
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From: Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer for RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:20:26 -0400
Hi all,
I installed rvplayer 5.0 ( ELF version) on my RH 6.2 and I get
segmentation file. Does anyone know if there is a more recent version
that works with linux or any other application/plugins I can use to
browse sound and video?
Thanks,
Ramin Sina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:10:13 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> phil hunt wrote:
>> Indeed. Welsh isn't understood by most humans, but something in Welsh
>> has the same freedom of speech as anything else. Most scientific and
>> technical writing isn't understandable by most people, either.
>>
> You're twisting it again.
>
> At least Welsh is not understood by most others non Welsh. But still,
> the Welsh have no problem communicating to other Welsh.
>
> But if you say, write a piece of code in C. and commanded it in English,
> Irish, Welsh, German, French, Spanish, Portugese, Latin, Persian,
> Arabic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Zulu, Yuhoo, Yahoo, Googoo,
> Woo Wee. etc. Most still won't be able to understand the code. If
> they've no programming trainning. They might understand the command, but
> still not the actual codes.
There are more 'C' programmers than speakers of Welsh. To a
'C' programmer, 'C' is quite readable, even without comments
(or especially without comments ;-).
There's sufficient overlap between written human langauges and
programming languages to consider the latter as a (limited)
form of speech.
--
Stefaan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: samba + win98 problems
Date: 10 Aug 2000 20:43:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:13:18 -0700, vanepelw wrote:
>I am trying to network a linux machine (suse 6.4) with a windows
>98 machine.
>windows machine = Win98
>Linux machine hostname = Linuxbox
>
>at the dos prompt i type:
>ping Linuxbox
>
>the ping gets a reply from my Win98 machine's ip address. the
>travel time is 0ms. i can ping the samba machine using its ip,
>somewhere in my win98 machine, some settings are incorrect. can
>anyone direct me where to look??
%SYSTEMROOT%\LMHOSTS.SAM would be a good place to start. Direct further
questions to one of the comp.os.windows-98 groups if you're sure that
the Linux setup is correct.
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From: Patton Echols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Almost Lost New Hard Drive After Linux Install
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:45:25 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> bobh{at}haucks{dot}org wrote:
> > If the BIOS is set to boot from floppy, and the disk is a plain DOS
> > floppy, then I have never seen a case where it would not boot from the
> > floppy no matter what was up with the hard disk.
>
> Well, you should have seen my PC when Redhat broke it. AFAIR I was
> booting from a format /s disk, and it started up, said 'Booting Windows
> 98' or whatever that message is, then locked up.
>
Many times recovery disks (floppy boot disks) are designed to boot when
the MBR is damaged, use a custom / minimal set of registry - .bat - .ini
files (depending on your dos/win versions), or recover from damaged
registry etc files. The boot disk in those cases still points to
drivers etc. on the hard drive. So, depending on what's on the boot
disk, it could fail if the hard disk is damaged . . .
Cheers,
Patton
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:38:52 GMT
> How the heck do I make a copy of a diskette using Linux?
>
> I don't want to mount it as a filesystem. I can imagine popping
> the diskette into the drive, doing some command to read it and
> create a disk image file, then swapping diskettes & copying the
> disk image out to diskette. If I had a disk image, I suppose dd
> would be the command to copy it out to the diskette.
>
> But I have no idea what command(s) to use to read in a diskette
> as a disk image. Can anyone help me, please?
>
I have always found 'cat' to be useful
cat /dev/fd0 > /tmp/image1
...
cat /tmp/image1 > /dev/fd0
You can use dd
dd infile=/dev/fd0 outfile=/dev/image1 blocksize=(whatever the size of
the disk is)
Of course, you can reverse the infile and outfile arguments.
Incedentally, I used dd as per the instructions on the CD to create a
RH6.2 install disk, and it didn't work. I tried cat and it was fine
HTH
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Rack Mountable Case with PCI-slots up front
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:40:47 GMT
Hello,
I'm having a darned hard time locating someone who retails rack-
mountable cases that have the pci-slots on the front side.
I can't really figure out why there isn't a roaring demand for them.
Nokia are using one for their IP-440 firewall, Effnet are using some
for their FTC-series so why aren't there any for the rest of us that
aren't interested in running fileservers with x^z 5.25" bays?
In short; does anyone know where to find one (or like three)?
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