Linux-Misc Digest #410, Volume #25 Thu, 10 Aug 00 22:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: very slow, any ideas? (philo)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98 (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: samba + win98 problems (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: How to copy a diskette? (Robert Jones)
Re: very slow, any ideas? (David Rysdam)
Re: starting ftpd during bootup (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Problem with dosemu (Prasanth A. Kumar)
GNOME CONTROL STRIP VANISH (root)
System troubles (Robert Schweikert)
Can't start full screen X session (Chad Lemmen)
Re: automount for windows shares with spaces (Glitch)
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:13:02 -0500
From: philo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: very slow, any ideas?
your pentium 200 is fine...but you will either have to increase your RAM or
else stay away from Gnome.
afterstep or fvm should run a bit faster.
my pentium 150 started running gnome pretty well when i increased my RAM to
96megs
Philo
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:21:29 -0700
Sam Holden wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:23:11 -0700,
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Phillip Lord wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> blowfish> Sorry. But I don't talk to machine of any kind.
> >>
> >> blowfish> Do you write a piece of source code, when you want to tell
> >> blowfish> your mother/wife/girlfriend/ something. Or do you just
> >> blowfish> write to them in plain English ( or whatever *human*
> >> blowfish> language that you use.
> >>
> >> blowfish> Or do you compile your source code into binaries, then
> >> blowfish> install it in a machine, then your
> >> blowfish> mother/wife/girlfriend/whoever can read what you want to
> >> blowfish> say?
> >>
> >> I am glad that I do not have to modify your source code. You
> >> are under the mistaken impression that I have spent much time trying
> >> to beat out of first year computer programmers, namely that the
> >> purpose of source code is for computers to read. Its absolutely is
> >> not. If it were we would make it easier for computers to read.
> >>
> >No. You guessed wrong. ;-)
> >
> >> The purpose of source code is to communicate to another
> >> human (or to yourself at a later date) what you have told the computer
> >> to do. Its for this reason that meaningful variables names are
> >> important. And also commenting. There are several import rules for
> >> commenting. One of which is "do not say the same thing in comments as
> >> you do in the program". Comments of the sort "increment x by 1" are
> >> pointless for instance. In other words program code, and comments are
> >> both forms of speech.
> >>
> >> Phil
> >Yes, you're both correct and incorrect.
> >
> >To the programmers, yes, but tothe population at large- no.
>
> Can't you just give up on this stupid irrelevant point.
>
> If I create a new written language, which only me and my wife know, and I
> write a letter to her in that language, the letter is copyrightable.
>
Hey Chill out!
I'm the one who's defending copyrights, not the other way around.
I AM ALL FOR COPYRIGHTS.
It's those FSF GNU-GPL geeks that are disagreeing with copyrights.
Read the thread again.
> It doesn't matter how many people can read it.
>
> --
> Sam
>
> In case you hadn't noticed, Perl is not big on originality.
> --Larry Wall
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:33:35 -0700
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : John Hasler wrote:
> :> blowfish writes:
> : Then, please enlighten me in how to make $25k for no reason.
>
> : I don't mind to have that happen to me a few times a year. :-)
>
> What's your problem? Invest in some shares at pre IPO prices. Sell them
> post IPO.
>
> To get offered shares at pre IPO prices, contribute free software
> that is packaged by said IPOco.
>
> Peter
I've played the dot-com games years ago, before the dot-com craze from
the last couple of years.
Been there. Done that. No big deal. Got out before the dot-com became
dot-gone. ;-)
But might be back later.
In Mr. Hasler 's case is he got the shares as a reward for contributing
to the GNU-GPL through Debian.
He didn't buy the shares himself.
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Query: Terrible Samba performance Linux->Win98
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:34:32 GMT
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:03:21 GMT, Robert Heller wrote:
>I would guess it is the IDE hardware. Remember: Linux only has
>*minimal* support for IDE/DMA drives -- Win* has better support for
>this.
Hardly. With proper DMA support compiled into the kernel and (possibly)
some tweaks with hdparm you can get much better performance out of an ATA/
(U)DMA drive under Linux than Win'**.
>Note: *real* servers NEVER USE IDE DRIVES. They use SCSI.
That's hardly an answer, and SCSI is a lucury for home users. I'd rather
get 40GB of ATA drive space than 20GB of SCSI drivespace, thank-you.
>Linux w/SCSI has much better performance, esp. with a decent card and a
>good disk.
Now you're getting to the heart of the matter; quality hardware. If he got
quality ATA drives on a good controller (Ultra ATA66, for example) he could
see massive performance from his system.
My Ultra ATA33 drives could/would send at well over 700kB/Sec over 10Base-T
network cards, from my ISA NE2000 (at the time) to a PCI D-Link.
>Also, the NE2000 ISA Ethernet cards are really low-end 'junk' cards.
>Why do you have such a junky card in a P233 box?
I'm sure he appreciates the sentiment. In reality, not everybody has the money
to be purchasing $80 NICs for all their machines. It would be nice, but it's
not very realistic.
>Do you really have ALL of its PCI slots used up? At *least* get a 3Com 509B
>card!
While you're sending out all this money along with your quality advice, I'll
take an Ultra-2 160 SCSI controller and a 20GB SCSI drive, along with a high
quality NIC. E-Mail me for my mailing address.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: samba + win98 problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:37:36 GMT
On 10 Aug 2000 20:42:34 GMT, Alvaro Palma Aste wrote:
>Are you sure that samba daemon is running?
>It looks like NMB doesn't...
>
>Try /etc/rc.d.../smb status or restart
It's SuSE, so its init scripts are in the 'right' place ;>
/sbin/init.d/smb status
would do the trick.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:07:06 -0500
Dances With Crows wrote:
<snip>
> dd if=/dev/fd0 of=diskimage bs=18k (exact copy of disk to HD)
> dd if=diskimage of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k (exact copy of image to disk)
>
> The man page for dd is a tad confusing, but dd is generally used to make
> exact copies of floppy disks, transform a data CD-ROM into an ISO image,
> or alter things like the MBR, which can't be reached via the filesystem.
> The bs= option there is for speed; 1.4M floppies have 18K/track. Using
> the default bs of 512 bytes takes almost 2.5 times longer. If it helps,
> think of dd as doing what they call a "sector copy" in DOS.
Very enlightening. Only problem is, I tried copying my rescue image (which I
already have on my hard drive, along with some other images) using the
commands:
[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=18k
[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=9216
[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440
[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=1440k
and the times were virtually identical for all four. (~49 secs from pressing
the return key until my prompt came back). Am I missing something, or is your
timing result based on something you once saw, perhaps running different
hardware or a different kernel? I'm serious! Hell, I'm so green that I
thought the bs= had to specify the total size of the data to be copied.
<snip the <RANT>, too. I was saving mine for Carl's notion of BEGGING someone
with Win9x> ;-)
Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: very slow, any ideas?
Date: 11 Aug 2000 00:47:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use a P-120/32MB at work and it's no problem. I run many (8+)
xterms, emacs, a netscape window and a netscape mail window all
simultaneously with no problem. I use FVWM2 with NO gnome/kde.
Definitely the way to go on a slow machine.
And philo Spoke:
>your pentium 200 is fine...but you will either have to increase your RAM or
>else stay away from Gnome.
>afterstep or fvm should run a bit faster.
>my pentium 150 started running gnome pretty well when i increased my RAM to
>96megs
>Philo
>
--
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net
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Subject: Re: starting ftpd during bootup
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Aug 2000 21:30:51 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) writes:
> I can't FTP into my machine:
>
> [myname@mymachine myname]$ ftp 127.0.0.1
> Connected to 127.0.0.1.
> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
> ftp>
>
> I don't see ftpd running:
>
> myname@mymachine myname ]$ ps axuw | grep ftp
> peterb 9045 0.0 0.2 1360 516 pts/9 S 14:50 0:00 grep ftp
>
>
> In the /etc/inetd.conf (I'm using RedHat 6.2) file it seems as if it should
> be set to start running when booting:
>
> # These are standard services.
> #
> ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.ftpd -l -a
> telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd
>
> What file do I need to modify in order to fire up ftpd automatically??
The Red Hat docs do not, I believe, discuss the /etc/pam.d
configuration, among other necessary items. I would suggest
installing the BSD port of ftpd, which you can locate on metalab or
freshmeat.net, and follow the installation instructions there.
The only part that's unexplained is that the BSD ftpd is invoked
on its own, not as a subprocess of tcpd.
Robert
http://www.mainmatter.com/
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Subject: Re: Problem with dosemu
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:33:40 GMT
Martin Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello!
>
> I've got the following problem with dosemu:
>
> When running setup-bootdir, I get the following output:
>
> mh:/var/lib/dosemu # setup-bootdir
> checking your partitions, wait...
> ...done
>
> ** There seem not to be any bootable DOS partitions
> Do you want to continue any way using a bootable floppy as input?
> If yes then enter the device (e.g. /dev/fd0) else type ENTER
>
> /dev/fd0
> Please insert a bootable DOS floppy for /dev/fd0 and type ENTER
> /dev/fd0
> /var/lib/dosemu/dexe/extract-dos: line 30: 880 Segmentation fault
> $mcommand $params
> /var/lib/dosemu/dexe/extract-dos: line 30: 888 Segmentation fault
> $mcommand $params
>
> A normal MSDOS system has command.com as shell.
> If you have a different one, please enter the name,
> else just type ENTER
>
> /var/lib/dosemu/dexe/extract-dos: line 30: 914 Segmentation fault
> $mcommand $params
> /var/lib/dosemu/dexe/extract-dos: line 30: 922 Segmentation fault
> $mcommand $params
> mdir: File "w:/windows/command.com" not found
> System type is WIN95. sysfiles: io.sys, msdos.sys, windows/command.com
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> mcopy: File "w:/windows/command.com" not found
>
> I cannot boot the generated directory.
>
> My computer: Athlon 600/192 MB
> SuSE 6.4
> dosemu 1.0.1 (I think so, it is the lates stable release)
>
> Does anyone know the problem, can anyone help me?
<snip>
Did you put a bootable dos floppy in the drive? Dosemu create a
virtual system on which the dos is run and you need to provide this
yourself. If you don't have one, look into the one called FreeDos.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME CONTROL STRIP VANISH
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:36:31 GMT
The control strip at the bottom and side of the gnome desktop has
vanished. Does anyone know how to fix this. I had this problem before
and can't remember how I fixed it. Thanks everyone...
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: System troubles
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 21:41:16 -0400
Something is wrong with my system but I have no clue what could be going
on and I need some help. Here are the symptoms:
- System hangs every now and so often, for example it just hung when I
brought up netscape
- When I compile code, such as the kernel or gcc (which doesn't work at
all) my CPU load drops to zero at what appears to be random occasions.
If I wait long enough the system will hang, if I kill the compile
process I get something like the following:
make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[2]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[1]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make: *** wait: No child processes. Stop.
This indicates to me that something got lost.
- Generally I would say I have a better chance of getting stuff compiled
after a reboot, as opposed to having the system up and running for a
while.
- When trying to compile gcc-2.95.2 I get the farthest right after a
reboot.
- I was able to compile the kernel 2.4-test5 with no troubles, but when
I tried to compile just now the CPU load dropped to zero and I got the
messages above after killing the compile process.
- Get SIG11 sometimes when compiling (not consistently) I have tried a
different (new) memory stick, that did not help.
- Monitoring the state of the memory I notice that a tone of memory is
allocated to "other" (whatever that means) and that the state of memory
usage is different every time I boot the system, although the same
processes are running.
- Further when I unzip or untar something the "other" memory goes up
quite a bit but it never drops back down to the level prior to the tar
or gunzip operation.
System details:
- RH6.2 system upgraded from 6.1, no clean install of 6.1 used the RH
upgrade mechanisms.
- Using Kernel 2.4-test5
- Tyan motherboard with Dual PII 450 MHz, 128 MB PC100 memory, Intel
440GX chipset
- ATAPI CDROM, Fujitsu EIDE Hard Disc, Quantum Atlas V SCSI drive,
Tekram DC-390U3W controller
- Current gcc version is 2.95, installed via RPM from the RH contrib
site
- Upgraded to GNOME 1.2, using IceWM
Troubles also existed using the 2.2.16-3 kernel which I installed via
rpm from RH.
Any help, hints where to look, ideas are appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: Chad Lemmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't start full screen X session
Date: 11 Aug 2000 01:01:22 GMT
I'm using Corel Linux and I can't start a full screen X display
when logged in as a normal user. If I do X :1 as root it starts
a full screen X window, but if I do that as a normal user I get
this message:
X: you are not authorised to run the X server
I tryed xhost + but that didn't help. How can I give a
regular user access to start X?
--
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:13:12 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: automount for windows shares with spaces
you have to escape the space, in other words you have to tell the OS
that the space in the name is actually part of the name instead of a
separation between arguments of a command, etc.
use "etsi\ al" as hte name...you might have to use the / instead, i
forget which one it is but one of those should work to escape the space
Amish Chana wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to create the entry in the autofs map file for a
> smbfs mount to a windows share with a space in its name.
>
> For example, in the entry below the windows machine has a share named
> "etsi a1", but according to /etc/log/messages automount only uses
> "//winpc/etsi" in the mount.
>
> share_a1 -fstype=smbfs,username=user,password=pass ://winpc/share a1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amish
> (please reply to this newsgroup as the email address does not work)
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