Linux-Misc Digest #410, Volume #27 Wed, 21 Mar 01 10:13:04 EST
Contents:
CDD2000: no multi sessions possible? (Ekkard Gerlach)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Manfred Bartz)
C35i linux port ("Ozymandias")
Re: terminal behavior after "man", "less", etc. (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: KDE-2.1.1 (Mark Hellewell)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Jean-David Beyer)
Weird /proc/mtrr (PoD)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Steve Withers)
Re: Lynx and image info (Martin Stenzel)
Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP! (Steve Withers)
Re: Lotus Notes ("ICM")
Re: Newsreader in Linux ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Best E-mail Client? (H.Bruijn)
how to install the glibc in /lib ? ("Thomas Weidner")
Re: How to disable the "call waiting feature" of the modem ? (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Best E-mail Client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Duplicating CDs (Rolf Magnus)
Re: terminal behavior after "man", "less", etc. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Best E-mail Client? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: slackware ("JCA")
Re: Best E-mail Client? (Zsolt Zsoldos)
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ... ("Davide Bianchi")
Re: Best E-mail Client? (John Beardmore)
Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ... ("Davide Bianchi")
samba next generation? (lop)
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From: Ekkard Gerlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDD2000: no multi sessions possible?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:56:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
who owns a CDD2000 and is able to execute
cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,1,0
to burn for a second, third, .. time?
I've got CDD2000 and no multi-session is
possible. First time I'm burning with
cdrecord -v -speed=2 dev=0,1,0 -multi /tmp/image
but when trying to eval msinfo:
rex:~ # cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,1,0
cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: F0 00 02 80 00 00 3E 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk -2147483586 (valid)
cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk!
I tried it for three different CD types.
Any ideas?
Ekkadr
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:18:56 GMT
Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
> Is there a good mail client? I use Lotus Notes for my work e-mail via
> VMWare in a Windows 98 VM. I would prefer to use a Linux mail program
> for my personal, non-work mail.
My main criteria would be that the client supports both
mail *and* news.
Mahogany looks promising but AFAIK it is not quite ready
for prime time.
<http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/download.html>
--
Manfred
===============================================================
ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: <http://logi.cc/linux/>
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From: "Ozymandias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: C35i linux port
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:38:47 +0100
Hi all,
not sure if this is the right newgroup, but I was wondering if anyone is
interested in starting work on a linux port to mobile phones, especially the
siemens C35i since I got one of those, and since there has been some work
done on a compiler to the c166 processor from infineon (the one inside the
e-gold chipset) I don't think we should aim towards an system that can
actually handling telephone-calls, but more towards a running 'linux' with a
display driver and keyboard driver for the phone..
But before all that, we must figure out how to upload a system into the
phone, putting in new firmware is easy, but we need to be able to 'swap'
between nonsense and the firmware without any damage to the phone, sim etc.
When able to do something like that, it would be nice to do a little 'hello
world' test in the phone, then the real work can start. But for now I am
stuck: I have a little program able to analyze the firmware for the phone,
and how it is send (little packets using memory adressing, length and
checksum). But any alteration results in an final checksum failed (I altered
the images, changed the checksums for those packets, and it uploads
perfectly). I cannot find that final checksum, I know that before the real
flashing starts, a little program is uploaded into the phone responsable for
flashing and uploading the real software.. somewhere inside resides a
checksum for the whole software. What I need is someone able to decompile
the uploading program to check it out bit by bit to see how it is really
done.. and how the phone gets its final initialization. I don't have that
many experiece with that, so any help is welcome.
Feel free to email me with any questions.
greetz Ozymandias
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: terminal behavior after "man", "less", etc.
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:47:13 -0500
Robert Watkins wrote:
>
> After upgrading to Mandrake 7.2 (from 7.0) I am noticing different
> behavior on the terminal that I cannot explain and would like to know how
> to control.
>
> Previously, after a "man", "less" or similar command, the information
> output by these commands would disappear and I would be left with the
> terminal window drawn almost exactly as it was before I invoked the
> command, save of course for the command itself and a new promt. Now, the
> output remains on the terminal.
>
> The odd thing is that this is the case with xterm and gnome-terminal, but
> not with konsole: konsole behaves the way all the terminals used to
> before I upgraded.
>
> How can I control this behavior, regardless of the terminal I am using?
>
This is a feature.
In my ~/.Xdefaults file is (among other things):
! This resource specifies whether or not to ignore the 'alternate
screen'
! of applications such as vi. When it is on, these applications will
restore
! the contents of the screen when they are exited to what they were
before
! they were started. When it is off, the contents of vi will remain
on the
! screen after the program is quit.
XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true
For me, the results of less and man disappear when I exit them. I
assume setting this to false will make it go the other way. I cannot
imagine how they picked that name for it.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:25am up 18 days, 14:28, 3 users, load average: 2.19, 2.13,
2.09
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From: Mark Hellewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE-2.1.1
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:43 +0000
Young4ert wrote:
> I have downloaded a set of KDE sources and would like to compile them but
> don't know which one to start first. Can anyone please advice me the
> order
> of packages to compile the KDE-2.1.1? Is the order important?
You wont get very far without compiling 'kdelibs' then 'kdebase'; at least,
thats the order I did it in. After that, I don't think it matters all that
much - AFAIK.
Mark
--
http://3point14.org
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:54:49 -0500
Christian Garms wrote (in part):
>
> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>
> Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
>
> Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
How do I get my correspondents to buy Adobe's Acrobat and use it when
they are so used to running Microsoft Word or some HTML writer (such
as Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer or Outlook Express)? They
are so proud of having the latest Microsoft stuff that nothing can
induce them to switch. When I send their stuff back, saying I cannot
read it and to use something standard, they say I should get my
machine fixed.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:50am up 18 days, 14:54, 3 users, load average: 2.04, 2.10,
2.08
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:25:20 +1030
From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird /proc/mtrr
The mtrr entry in /proc looks odd to me
[root@localhost /root]# ls -l /proc/mtrr
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66 Mar 21 21:04 /proc/mtrr
it contains
reg00: base=0x00000000 ( 0MB), size= 128MB: write-back, count=1
reg01: base=0xe2000000 (3616MB), size= 32MB: write-combining, count=1
every other entry (except kcore) has a size of 0
Is it possible to create a normal file in /proc ?
I'm running kernel 2.4.1, XFree 4.0.2 and Nvidia's 0.9-767 driver,
MTRR support is set to yes in the kernel
I used to set the mtrr in rc.local but I've removed that now.
I also get this message in /var/log/messages
mtrr: no MTRR for e2000000,400000 found
I think X or the Nvidia driver is setting this.
Any ideas?
TIA, PoD
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:55:53 +0100
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Steve Withers wrote:
> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
pine doesn't lack html but in any case email = ascii
Gerald
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Garms
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
>> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>
>Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
>
>Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:05:09 +1200
Manfred Bartz wrote:
>
> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>
> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>
> Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
Yes. I receive several e-mails that have the best and richest content
when I can display HTML. Otherwide they are almost unreadable.
I want the widest possible range of compatibility. The function set
being built into mail these days is moving away from plain text....but
at least following a universal standard (html/java). If the mail client
can't do these things, in the near future it will make mail difficult
from commercial sources and from come government agencies who are
adopting html and java for function-rich information delivery.
> > Is there a good mail client? I use Lotus Notes for my work e-mail via
> > VMWare in a Windows 98 VM. I would prefer to use a Linux mail program
> > for my personal, non-work mail.
>
> My main criteria would be that the client supports both
> mail *and* news.
I don't mind separate programs for mail and news.
I'll find out more about Mahogany. Thanks.
--
Regards,
Steve Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #24688
http://counter.li.org
"First, they ignore you. Then they
laugh at you. Then they fight you.
Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
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From: Martin Stenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx and image info
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:06:56 +0100
> Hi there,
>
> I am using Lynx (2.8.3)
>
> Although searching the Lynx website I could not find an answer to this
> question:
>
> How can I make Lynx ignore any images so while HTML parsing I do not get
> any info on images, like
>
> ------ snip ----------
>
> [whateverfile.gif]
> This is a crucial info
> [nextwhateverfile.gif] etc..
>
> ----snip ------------
>
> so that I only see:
>
> ------ snip ---------
>
> This is a crucial info
>
> ------snip----------
>
> I am using the browser for a single web site and I do not want any
> references to pictures.
>
> TIA, Martin.
>
> --
> Martin Stenzel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PGP-/GnuPG-encrypted mail appreciated,
> public key (ID: >>B57C61DC<<) at:
> >>http://141.20.1.38/~h0444xyv/GPGkey_martin.stenzel<<
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.food.wine,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,alt.movies,rec.collecting.coins,alt.autos.porsche,alt.tv.sopranos
Subject: Re: GET RACIST SIPHER42 OUT OF THIS GROUP!
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:13:44 +1200
~TheScorp~ wrote:
>
> If Sipher42 didn't physically attack anyone there's nothing wrong with him
> being racist. He has a RIGHT to NOT like everyone as much as You do have a
> right to like anyone you want. It is his personal opinion and you should
> respect it.
> I think it is wrong when MLK Day is celebrated, but Presiden's Day is not.
> This also racist.
So.....Presidents can't ever be black?
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From: "ICM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:24:19 +0100
Hi
Maybe the solution is in a Lotus Notes server instalation on Linux
enviromnent
You have Lonux as an OS and You have Lotus Notes software with e-mail on it
Regards,
Andrzej
U�ytkownik Ericc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w wiadomo�ci do grup dyskusyjnych
napisa�:995cco$k20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I try to use Linux at work, but my society use Lotus Notes as mail
> system.
> Some one have a solution for me ??
>
> Thanks
>
> Ericc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newsreader in Linux ?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:16:57 +0000
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite
This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:56:18 +0100, Alex Fitterling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>..and would I be able then - if I'm using slrn - to view only threads
>wherein articles of my own are included ? ...to have these separated ?
You can use scoring to make certain threads appear "first" in the list
of messages ... that's often what I do when posting a message to a high
traffic group.
Dave.
--
P.S. Apologies for the spam-trapped headers - they are added by my
outgoing news server and I have no control over them.
--
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: 21 Mar 2001 13:47:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000, John Beardmore allegedly wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Garms
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I also have PINE set up....and the default mailer with RH 7.0....but
>>> they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>>
>>Why do you need this stuff? Do you want to catch the latest trojans?
>>
>>Use PDF-Documents instead. ps2pdf is a very good tool for that.
>
>What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
It is a tool which converts postscript files/documents to pdf. It is
quite usefull as postscript is the standard file format in UNIX for
printable documents, for instance the "print to file" option in
Netscape navigator will result in a postscript file.
Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
Portable Document Format.
The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
bitmap images rule the day). PDF files are generally smaller, and are
now quite accepted on windows platforms.
For the people using (la)tex to make their documents using pdflatex is
recommended though, over using latex->dvips->ps2pdf as that allows for
much more versatility such as clickable hyperlinks within the document
and to outside URL's and those thumbnail pages used for navigation.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Thomas Weidner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to install the glibc in /lib ?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:03:06 +0100
Hi NG,
i've downloaded the glibc2.2.2 and want to upgrade my glibc2.1.3. I've done
the following:
./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-add-ons
make
make install
and "make install" exits with the error "ln: no such file or dictonary"(or
something like that). AFAIK "make install" deletes /lib/libc.so.6 and then
wants to copy the new to this position,but after deleting /libc/libc.so.6
all shared linked programm,include the shell, won't work anymore.
What have i done wrong ? and how can i do it better ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: How to disable the "call waiting feature" of the modem ?
Date: 21 Mar 2001 14:07:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Shaozheng Zhou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> When I use the modem for PPP connection to ISP, I should disable the
> "Call Waiting" feature.
> In Win95, it is easy to disable the configuration of the Modem. But how
> could
> I disable this "call waiting feature' of the modem when I configure PPP
> for linux to connect to my ISP.
In North America *70 when you go off hook signals your phone company to
disable call-waiting. So have as start of dialing string ATDT*70, or
whatever needed in ___.au [comma pauses]
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:10:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manfred Bartz wrote:
>>
>> Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
>> > supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>>
>> > they all lack HTML, javascript and graphics.
>>
>> Well, do you need all that stuff? For email???
> Yes. I receive several e-mails that have the best and richest content
> when I can display HTML. Otherwide they are almost unreadable.
So tell them not to send you it. After all, I don't write to you in
swahili, unless I know that you understand swahili. If you insist
on encouraging swahili documents, then send them for translation when
you get them.
> I want the widest possible range of compatibility. The function set
Then please accept the follwing in reverse polish xml (readable on a
swedish language mac) ...
compatibility is something that you encourage via standards. Ascii is
the standard for mail.
> being built into mail these days is moving away from plain text....but
> at least following a universal standard (html/java). If the mail client
It is NOT moving away from plain text! If you want to send a fancy html
message, then send them the link and a passwd and dump the page on your httpd
servers, with an httpaccess file that has that passwd. Then you can
think about what to do with your bytes instead of them.
> can't do these things, in the near future it will make mail difficult
> from commercial sources and from come government agencies who are
> adopting html and java for function-rich information delivery.
There is no function served by html and java that is not covered by
ascii. After all, a human being has to receive it, and he doesn't speak
java or html.
Peter
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From: Rolf Magnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Duplicating CDs
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:13:18 +0100
Ian Northeast wrote:
> You weren't trying to illegally copy a specially protected game were
> you? The simple technique used by xcdroast won't work for some of these,
> especially recent ones.
Just curious - how do you "illegally copy a game"?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: terminal behavior after "man", "less", etc.
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:54:51 +0100
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is a feature.
> In my ~/.Xdefaults file is (among other things):
> ! This resource specifies whether or not to ignore the 'alternate
> screen'
> ! of applications such as vi. When it is on, these applications will
> restore
> ! the contents of the screen when they are exited to what they were
> before
> ! they were started. When it is off, the contents of vi will remain
> on the
> ! screen after the program is quit.
> XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true
> For me, the results of less and man disappear when I exit them. I
> assume setting this to false will make it go the other way. I cannot
> imagine how they picked that name for it.
I am going to add your comments to my .Xdefaults file!
Thanks
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:57:05 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc H.Bruijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
> Portable Document Format.
> The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
That's not a disadvantage. It compresses incredibly well .. by about
10:1 with gzip. Whereas pdf is only a proprietary compressed format for
ps, entirely unnecessary ..
> made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
> bitmap images rule the day). PDF files are generally smaller, and are
> now quite accepted on windows platforms.
This is the only advantage.
> For the people using (la)tex to make their documents using pdflatex is
> recommended though, over using latex->dvips->ps2pdf as that allows for
Peter
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From: "JCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slackware
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 06:30:28 -0800
In article <W2Tt6.851$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard Suggs"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i need a site where i can download Slackware 7.1 all the sites in the
> states are to slow richard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Have you tried ftp.freesoftware.com?
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From: Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:38:58 GMT
Steve Withers wrote:
> Folks....
>
> I have been using Netscape for mail on Linux for a long time because it
> supports HTML and Javascript and graphics.
>
I've been using Netscape too, but every new release seemed to get buggier and
more bloated (e.g. takes ages to start up) so now I had enough...
Since I'm using KDE, I tried KMail for email and KNode for newsgroups.
So, far I'm satisfied with the switch. KMail does support html & java, but
it is turned off by default, you have to change it in the Settings menu if you
need that stuff (although I aggree with others, that email should stay ASCII).
--
Zsolt.
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:36:49 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>compatibility is something that you encourage via standards. Ascii is
>the standard for mail.
Good point. ( For now ! )
>There is no function served by html and java that is not covered by
>ascii. After all, a human being has to receive it, and he doesn't speak
>java or html.
Stupid point. None of the 'extensions' to standard email are intended
to be interpreted directly by people. Plenty of packages do support
html, embedded pictures etc - I don't know about java.
The more mail packages support this stuff, the more pressure there will
be for new standards.
With mime etc, is there even that much need for new standards ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ...
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:52:52 -0500
"Yasuki Izaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:999fsr$fn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm currently mailing a text file from linux (RH6.1) to aol users.
> This is done automatically by cron to execute mail command.
> Now, my receipients wants the data in MS/Execel format.
> Does anybody know how can it be done? Please e-mail me your responses.
Create a simple comma-delimited file with the data separated by
commas and new-line. Excel will be able to read the file and put
the data into cells.
He will have no fancy fonts and so on, but the file will be understood
by everybody.
Davide
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Best E-mail Client?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:43:13 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, H.Bruijn
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:00:39 +0000, John Beardmore allegedly wrote:
>>What's this ps2pdf thing ? A sort of copyleft Distiller ?
>
>It is a tool which converts postscript files/documents to pdf. It is
>quite usefull as postscript is the standard file format in UNIX for
>printable documents, for instance the "print to file" option in
>Netscape navigator will result in a postscript file.
>Usage: "ps2pdf file(.ps)" which will result in a file.pdf in Adobe's
>Portable Document Format.
OK. Sounds handy.
>The disadvantage of postscript is that it is quite large, and it never
>made it in the Microsoft world (where incompatible word formats and
>bitmap images rule the day).
Well, M$ probably didn't want to base their GDI on an Adobe technology.
They could, and most certainly did, make a far bigger balls of it
themselves !
> PDF files are generally smaller, and are
>now quite accepted on windows platforms.
Well yes and no. Quite a few people have never downloaded a 6 or 8 meg
PDF viewer, and far fewer still have forked out money Distiller !
PDF is further loathed as many documents are authored with printing
turned off which makes it hard to read a PDF file in the bath or on the
bus !
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question about mailing an excel file from linux ...
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:53:13 -0500
"Yasuki Izaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:999fsr$fn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm currently mailing a text file from linux (RH6.1) to aol users.
> This is done automatically by cron to execute mail command.
> Now, my receipients wants the data in MS/Execel format.
> Does anybody know how can it be done? Please e-mail me your responses.
Create a simple comma-delimited file with the data separated by
commas and new-line. Excel will be able to read the file and put
the data into cells.
He will have no fancy fonts and so on, but the file will be understood
by everybody.
Davide
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From: lop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba next generation?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:57:13 GMT
does anyone know when will it be released in final status? I am
looking forward to implement my win2k computers into my intranet.
mfg lop
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