Linux-Misc Digest #421, Volume #25               Sat, 12 Aug 00 07:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: STTY and ERASE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Couldn't open Netscape (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released (blowfish)
  Re: Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome (blowfish)
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Re: Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software (N/A)
  Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem. (N/A)
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Killing bugging programs... (Simon Lemieux)
  Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Couldn't open Netscape ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Make Linux Vanish (N/A)
  Problem with printer margins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Create a forum ("Andrea Bonito")
  Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (M. 
Buchenrieder)
  Re: Make Linux Vanish ("Peter T. Breuer")
  please help: mount failed (Neil Zanella)
  Re: HELLLLP cannot reboot !! (Dirk Reckmann)
  Re: Make Linux Vanish ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Graphically Not Preforming ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Killing bugging programs... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Modules in 2.4.0-test6 ("Gerard Milmeister")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:56:45 GMT

I must apologize, I wrote in haste. It seems FreeBSD uses ^H by
default. I must have tested the wrong terminal. I have rebooted my
FreeBSD box and when connected, it did say erase = ^H. Well, I guess the
verdict is in: every single os (other than linux) that I use uses ^H by
default. Hmm, well, all that's left is to convince Linus :)

Now I know which OS I need to "fix"



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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:16:08 -0400

"ywk@SuSE" wrote:
> 
> sorry about that, I did try to use command line
> it came up to say
> "Bus error"

Memory problems. IIRC, SIGBUS is presented when you've overcommitted
your process memory.

Take a look at the memory usage on your system. 

> same thing happen to other users too
> I recognize the problem that was just after Staroffice 5.1 version
> installed
> any clue?
[snip]
-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:57:19 -0700

Michel Catudal wrote:
> 
> blowfish a �crit :
> >
> > But I hope SuSE has taken out all the stupid games from the Professional
> > version.
> >
> > The important stuff are the apps.
> >
> 
> If they did they would piss off a lot of customers so my guess is that they won't.
> If you don't want the games, do not install them.
> I install them for my son and my wife who do like them even if I never play them.
> 
I am talking about the "Professional" version, not the "Standard"
version aimed at the home users market.

Isn't it the"Professional" version supposted to be for work? I'm pretty
sure no employers would like their employees playing games during work
hours. ;-)

Beside. People can still install the games if they wanted to.  Just
don't install them by default as dependency.
> --
> Vous en avez plein l'casse du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
> C'est l'temps d'essayer Linux
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:14:48 -0700

"D. C. & M. V. Sessions" wrote:
> 
> blowfish wrote:
> >
> > Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
> >
> > Is the Dell dumping Linux now?
> >
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12509.html
> 
> OTOH, Linux servers were the only part of Dell's business
> growing at double-digit rates according to the latest
> earnings report.
> 
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> +----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+

Yeah, I read that too. Dell's, Intel's are Strange bed fellows. Ain't
they!?

Now. Who's the mistress?

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:25:06 -0700

"David C." wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > And I *ALWAYS* compile from source for the other stuff.
> 
> _everything_ else?  You actually bother to recompile ls, cat, bash, and
> all the other common tools?
> 
> Why bother with a distribution at all, if you do that?
> 
I know it sounds a bit crazy. But I do it as a learning experience. :-)

And with a good distro. I don't have to chase after all the stuff.
Almost everything I need are in the CDs/DVD. :-)

Also to customize. My file structures for my SuSE Linux boxes are the
same as OpenBSD. :-)

> Somehow, I find that hard to believe.
> 
Well. That's my main reason to use opensource stuff. :-)

> -- David

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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:29:50 GMT


Philo wrote:
> 
> 
> to boot to windows, just go into your linux config and set lilo to boot 
to windows, then if you want, you can
> also set the default as windows...
> no need to start all over
> Philo
> 
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:
> >i need to make my computer stop giveing me only the option of booting 
> >linux or my floppy cuz this prevents me from going into windows 98 even 
> >with windows on my system. linux practically owns my hard drive. i no 
> >longer have windoze 98 on my system but even after installing it i 
cannot 
> >go into it. how can i delete my entire linux or partition from the 
> >software, or any way at that matter. thanks.
> >
> >--
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> >http://www.help.com/
> 

ok thank you very much


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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:29:47 GMT


Philo wrote:
> 
> 
> did you first go into the control panel and assign a com port to your 
modem?
> Philo
> 
> 
> 
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:
> >i have a rockwell modem and when following the instructions for it to 
> >detect my modem in terminal mode nothing really happens, i use the 
command 
> >minicom and it says command not found or 'using default' yet nothing 
> >happens. when trying to connect to the internet i either get the 
> >responce 'modem is locked' or 'modem not detected' what is the problem?
> >
> >--
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> >http://www.help.com/
> i will try that although the manual said by running the command i ran i 
was specifying that already?


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 00:19:38 -0700

"David C." wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Only sucky-crappy distros like RH, Debian, etc. , and so on you need to
> > recompile for anything other than the generic stuff.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> RedHat most certainly does release 586 and 686 kernel builds.  My PII
> and PPro systems all run with an i686-built kernel.
> 
> > Even soundcard, SMP, pentium, ata/dma a bunch of scsi, GForce video,
> > etc runs right out of the box without any messing around.
> 
> Congratulations.  Yours is not the only distribution that works "out of
> the box".
> 
> But I'm surprised you are concerned with "messing around", since (as you
> wrote in another post in this thread) you recompile everything anyway.
> 
> -- David

I install for friends too. :-)
Most of them just want it quick. So. Default installation suit them
well.

I recompile everything as a learning experience. :-)

-- 
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From: Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Killing bugging programs...
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:08:51 GMT

Hi,
        I some times need all my computer's speed at all time at all cost! Mainly for
presentation and such...
        In the middle of a presentation, "slocate" started its routine search on my HD,
thus slowing the machine as hell...
        I would like to know what to kill so my computer will almost never use any CPU
or HD when Idle...  I know this is not recomended, but it's temporary, I will
then reboot and everything would be back...

Thanks,
        Simon

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Allowing all users to access and write to a partition
Date: 12 Aug 2000 08:03:55 GMT

Robert J Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8n1qsh$pte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:       "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> That s the correct answer.  If I ask you for information about John the
:> Baptist are you going to repeat the biblical stories to me, or are you
:> going to direct me to the appropriate chapter and verse, plus a few
:> titles of modern books about what is known about him? I hope the
:> latter.

: I suspect that his objection - as mine is - is based on your tone, not
: the content. It really is possible, you know, to explain things to
: people without talking down to them.

As it happens, I don't think "he" (who?) was talking to me. I believe I
entered the conversation with the above para. I can't check while
respoding, however.

:> It's a worthless 2c.  Your opinion runs against the principles of
:> education and research.  

: Rule #1: NO opinion is useless. 

I opine that the universe is ruled by a pink candy floss.

: Rule #2: If you _study_ a "worthless" opinion, you will in all
: probability be able to determine WHY somebody thinks the way they do,

Sure. They think that way because they have a poor opinion of their own
ability, and believe they need to be told the "right" answer. They get
enraged when the "right" answer is withheld. Etc. Etc. Best thing to do
is to lose that attitude.

: and therefore know what information the speaker needs or is

I have no interest in performing the speaker's self-analysis for him.
It's up to him to analyse his mental proceses and produce a point
question that can help him resolve his own doubts.

: missing. The listening (and subsequent analysis) is called
: RESEARCH. The teaching comes afterwards.

Nonsense.

: Geeze - I *hate* it when people use information or superiour
: understanding as a weapon to make themselves feel superiour instead of
: a tool to help others. But then again, that's just MY worthless
: opinion :-)

More nonsense too. So listen to the above and analyse what information
I need in order to arrive at the opinion you hld instead of the
judgement I have made, which apparantly you think is wrong! Not worth
it, eh? I agree. It's up to me to locate a divergence point in our
reasoning processes if I am at all interested in doing so. In this case
I am not interested because empirical testing of the consequences of my
judgement leaves me satisfied with its validity and its utility. The
disadvantage is that lazies don't like me. So what.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: 12 Aug 2000 08:08:41 GMT

Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "ywk@SuSE" wrote:
:> 
:> sorry about that, I did try to use command line
:> it came up to say
:> "Bus error"

: Memory problems. IIRC, SIGBUS is presented when you've overcommitted
: your process memory.

Interesting. sigbus is in fact an alignment error. Accessing an integer
at an odd numbered memory location, and so on ...

: Take a look at the memory usage on your system. 

A good idea. It's likely that the error has been trapped and translated
somewhere along the way.  Netscape did that.  A real sigbus would have
to come about via a malloc fail and a strange offset calculation in the
code internals, I feel.

Peter

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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Make Linux Vanish
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:30:09 GMT

alright due to some major technical problems including the recent non-
existance of Windows 98 on my hard drive. I need to know how it is 
possible to COMPLETLY flush or get rid off Linux especially INCLUDING the 
Lilo boot up thing in the beggining off my hard drive. i mean i need all 
rtace of Linux on my hard drive gone. keep in mind i have no access to 
windows at all, so i have to work within linux and its software.

P.S. thank you very much for everyone baring with me on my NUMEROUS 
questions. linux cant detect a lot of my hardware and im having some 
problems, etc etc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problem with printer margins
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:33:24 GMT

Hello,

Perhaps I should start by asking whether there exists a FAQ
on printer setup.  While the problem I am currently tackling
is probably minor and may yet be answered on this forum, I
suspect I will have more problems in the future and will need
to consult various resources again.

My problem du jour is that the margins on my print jobs are
wrong:  the text is offset up and to the right (so that there
is extra margin to the left and at the bottom).  It appears
that the "extra" margin is roughly 1/4".  This doesn't seem
to be necessarily just a printer problem, because under Windows
I can print with no margin problem.

Is there a way to tweak the printer setup so that the margins
will not be off in this fashion?

If it helps, the printer in question is an HP Laserjet 1100
(the brand that is "packaged" with Dell laptops).  I'm running
Redhat Linux 6.2 on a Dell Inspiron 3800 laptop.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!!

                                Bob


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From: "Andrea Bonito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Create a forum
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:25:30 +0200

Hi,
I'd like to create easily a forum in my home page. I've try A-Forum but it
seems working only under windows. Does someone know where can I get another
script running under linux ?

Thanks in advance,
Andrea



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:50:27 GMT

saan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Thank you very much for the replies.

>However I am still stuck.  I am able to get into single user mode and
>mount the following: /, /proc /usr, /opt all with ext2 rw.

>I could not find a vi, pico or ed as suggested by earlier poster. And I
>dont know why. I cd to /usr and nothing is below it and I dont know
>what happened to those files. 

[...]

You didn't mount a different partition into /usr , did you ?
Look at your /etc/fstab file.

Michael
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Make Linux Vanish
Date: 12 Aug 2000 10:22:39 GMT

N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: existance of Windows 98 on my hard drive. I need to know how it is 
: possible to COMPLETLY flush or get rid off Linux especially INCLUDING the 
: Lilo boot up thing in the beggining off my hard drive. i mean i need all 

That's documented in every faq, and on every newsgroup.

: rtace of Linux on my hard drive gone. keep in mind i have no access to 
: windows at all, so i have to work within linux and its software.

Blatt a few zeros  to the first sector of your disk. Do you want to
spare the partition table? Recover the original boot sector? lilo -u.

: P.S. thank you very much for everyone baring with me on my NUMEROUS 
: questions. linux cant detect a lot of my hardware and im having some 

Linux doesn't detect any hardware. That is probably your conceptual
mistake. You tell it what you have, by loading and configuring (and
configuring to be loaded) the correct driver.

Out of interest, what could this hardware be? Afaik every net card and
video card in existence is supported by linux. My imagination is poor,
so I can't think of anything else you might need! Maybe a mouse, but
all mice use ps/2 or mm or ms serial protocol..

Peter

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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: please help: mount failed
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:01:51 -0230


Hello,

I have recently posted to comp.os.linux.setup but got no reply so
I am posting again here. Recently I have been trying to reinstall
Linux and Windows on my hard drive.

A while ago I had the following setup which used to work very well
(until 10 months later I was experiencing some annoying X Window
crashes/freezes and could not explain to myself why this was happening
although I suspect kernel 2.2.16 might have been the culprit). The
setup I had was:

/dev/hda1 420Mb FAT12 Windows 98
/dev/hda5-10 or something similar for Linux.

Fed up with the X Windows system freezes I decided to reinstall
(and also delete my PHDisk partition) so I deleted everything
including Windows and Linux as well (using both versions of fdisk,
the Linux and then the DOS version). I reformatted the whole hard
drive as one big FAT32, deleted it, always rebooting after changing
the partition table. I restored all my BIOS settings (I have the
following BIOS: Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.05 02R). Since I wanted some
more room for Win98 I had to go with FAT32 instead of FAT16. So I
partitioned with DOS fdisk to create one partition and ended up
with the following:

C: FAT32 800Mb

Then when installting Linux (I tried fiddling with the BIOS,
no luck, I tried both Red Hat 5.2 and 6.2, and 5.2 used to
work fine with the older setup, and I cannot use a boot
disk since my laptop will not let me use both the CD-ROM
drive and the floppy drive at the same time, a peculiarity
that most vendors and driver developers seem to forget).
So this is what I get after the partitions get done (5.2):

mount failed  (#$$!!&#%$)

So I look at the error messages under CTRL-ALT-F4/5:

CTRL-ALT-F4:
<4>Adding Swap: 68004k swap-space (priority -1)
<4>VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev 03:06

CTRL-ALT-F5:
Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done


What gives? All I can think of is that:

(1) probably my BIOS sucks and I don't know whether or not to upgrade 
    since the manufacturer of my laptop doesn't care to tell me what
    motherboard I have.

(2) Perhaps I should have made a tiny 16Mb boot partition at the
    beginning of my hard drive but then again would this solve my
    problem?

(3) I have never been so frustrated with an installation before
    (with the exception of when I had to install Win95 and did not
    have the appropriate DOS CD-ROM drivers etc...). If this keeps
    up I will just have to make one huge FAT32 partition and install
    VMWare and Linux on top of Windows instead of the other way round
    (which would suck) but I shall not be this pessimistic right now.


Thanks for your help!

Neil


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Reckmann)
Subject: Re: HELLLLP cannot reboot !!
Date: 12 Aug 2000 10:40:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rick Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I will not reboot, it get stuck at
>
>init: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libpLiS.so: cannot
>open shared object file: not such file or directory

>Does anyone have a way to boot around this, so I can
>fix it ?????

Try at the LILO: prompt

LILO: <your_linux_image> init=/bin/bash

this should skip starting init and give you a root shell.

Hope this helps!
  Dirk


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Make Linux Vanish
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:00:43 +0100

N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> alright due to some major technical problems including the recent non-
> existance of Windows 98 on my hard drive. I need to know how it is 
> possible to COMPLETLY flush or get rid off Linux especially INCLUDING the 
> Lilo boot up thing in the beggining off my hard drive. i mean i need all 
> rtace of Linux on my hard drive gone. keep in mind i have no access to 
> windows at all, so i have to work within linux and its software.

1: Use fdisk to remove the Linux partitions.
2: Boot up to DOS and use fdisk \mbr. This resets the Master Boot Record for
   windoze only.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Graphically Not Preforming
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:06:13 +0100

N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> i have an intel(r) graphics chipset and i am running Mandrake Linux 7.0 
> because linux cannot detect my card i have to use a 'Generic VGA 
> Compatible' which naturally isnt giving mehalf of what i can run graphic 
> wise. when going in to my '/etc/X11/XF86Config' file i can edit things to 
> fit my graphics card. however when rebooting i have errors and i can no 
> longer get into my x system or desktop which causes problems for me 
> because i am a newbie kinda and i dont know any commands to run from # to 
> go into anything. so how make linux recognize the full power of my 
> graphics. and i dont have the access of windows(another story)

Type SuperProbe.
This will attempt to detect your chipset.
Write this information down and use xf86config.
Answer all the questions (this isn't a graphical config tool, but works
when all the graphical ones fail).

It should also tell you which X server you need to have installed, or svga
if all else fails.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:57:08 +0100

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> I am talking about the "Professional" version, not the "Standard"
> version aimed at the home users market.

> Isn't it the"Professional" version supposted to be for work? I'm pretty
> sure no employers would like their employees playing games during work
> hours. ;-)

No, the "professional" version is for all the people who've been using SuSE
for ages and are experienced in it. It's the full distro rather than a
newbie cutdown version.

> Beside. People can still install the games if they wanted to.  Just
> don't install them by default as dependency.

They're now installed by default anyway, unless you choose the "Install
everything" option.

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|                          | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
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|            in            |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Killing bugging programs...
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:59:00 +0100

Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi,
>       I some times need all my computer's speed at all time at all cost! Mainly for
> presentation and such...
>       In the middle of a presentation, "slocate" started its routine search on my HD,
> thus slowing the machine as hell...
>       I would like to know what to kill so my computer will almost never use any CPU
> or HD when Idle...  I know this is not recomended, but it's temporary, I will
> then reboot and everything would be back...

Kill crond. That'll stop all scheduled tasks until it's restarted.
(You shouldn't need to reboot. Just restart the daemon afterwards)

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From: "Gerard Milmeister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modules in 2.4.0-test6
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:56:23 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> softrat` wrote:
>> 
>> Robert Lynch wrote:
>> >
>> > I've been trying to move from devel kernel 2.4.0-test5 to the
>> <snip>
>> > there a easier way, along the lines of depmod -a used to figure it
>> > all out?
>> 
>> You probably need to update your package modutils.
>> Documentation/Changes for kernel 2.4.0-test5 recommends version 2.3.10
>> or later. I am using version 2.3.14-1.
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>> Uncertain fortune is thoroughly mastered by the equity of the
>> calculation.
>> - Blaise Pascal
> 
> I have been looking on rpmfind, which only had ~ 2.3.11 which I was I
> was using (and was later than recommended), but after reading your msg.
> I found modutils version 2.3.14-1 at kernel.org.
> 
> Hopefully this will do the trick.
> 
> Thanks for the input.
> 
> Bob L.
It is a good idea always to have a look at Documentation/Changes when
installing a new kernel. There requirements are stated, and where to find
the software needed.

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