Linux-Misc Digest #452, Volume #25               Tue, 15 Aug 00 09:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ./configue (Hammer)
  Re: Upgrade RH 5.2 to 6.2 (fred smith)
  Re: NIS+ (Peter Bunclark)
  recommendation on NNTP server setup ("Joe Wong")
  Re: mkraid fails, RH 6.1 (Christoph Kukulies)
  Re: Attn: Bob M (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Website coming up as HTML text on Apache server in Netscape.. (Neil)
  why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior (Grant Petersen)
  Re: Sony SDT-5000 Tape Drive on Redhat 6.1 (Shyam Govardhan)
  Re: Booting from a different kernel image (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run? (Tony Lawrence)
  Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: Problem mounting Windows partition (Robert Heller)
  Re: when will we see RH6.3? 7.0? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux? (Christopher Browne)
  Sending SMS with a Modem and Linux (AZZLA)
  Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: recommendation on NNTP server setup ("Michael Faurot")

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From: Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ./configue
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:58:57 GMT

or www.xfree.org, if you need new bits.

-=hammer

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:37:43 GMT, Daniel B�chard wrote:
> >I'm trying to install files with tar.gz and I tried to make the
> >./configure I get an error message that tells me can't find X
includes
> >I'm using Open Linux 2.4 (Caldera)
> >Where can I find the X software
> >Thank you in advance
>
> There should be a package on your Caldera CD(s) called
> "Xfree86-devel.rpm" or something similar.  In SuSE 6.4, it's called
> "xdevel.rpm", but it will have an X and a "dev" in it.  Find that
> package and install it, since that package has the X header files in
it.
> HTH, bonne chance.
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us
to see
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> http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> -----------------------------/           --Henry Spencer
>

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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade RH 5.2 to 6.2
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:36:38 GMT

Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I wouldn't recommend upgrading from 5.2 to 6.2.  I tried it and a large 
: number of problems occured regarding my previous configuration.  I think 
: you'd have better luck with just backing up your important files, erasing 
: 5.2 and then installing 6.2.

: -Mike

FWIW, I did it and had no significant trouble. 

Having some "extra" space (about 2 gigs) in one partition, I copied my
5.2 root partition into that "extra" space, modified lilo.conf so the
newly-made copy would become root, made sure it booted up without trouble,
then did the 5.2==>6.2 upgrade into that partition. Doing it that way left
me with my original 5.2 system unmolested so that in case of disaster I
would be able to revert. However since it all worked out just fine I 
had no need to revert at all.

Fred

:> 
:> 
:> Looking for opinions and experiences on upgrading RedHat 5.2
:> to Redhat 6.2.  Any major problems or has it gone smoothly ?
:> 
:> Jon


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From: Peter Bunclark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: NIS+
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:30:47 +0100

Brat wrote:

> I Recall that Linux currenlty supports only NIS (not NIS+) - at least as
> a server. It could be possible to
> make Linux act as a NIS+ client dunno...
> (this was the situation at start of this year)
>
> Michael Abadjiev wrote:
> >
> > TomC wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I have more than 5 redhat server in my company and every time a new
> > > staff come then I need to add account in each server. It is very
> > > inconvenience. I think that can I add a solaris NIS+ server and all the
> > > linux clients join to it and share the information. Can I? Any HOWTO

for Linux NIS+ support, see http://www.suse.de/~kukuk/nisplus/index.html

Pete.


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From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: recommendation on NNTP server setup
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:16:23 +0800

Hello,

  I would like to know your suggestion on setting up NNTP server on linux,
what I need to do is:

ISP News feed <-> HQ Office <-> branch office

The idea is only selected groups will be transfer from HQ office to branch
office. The people in branch office can read and post article in the local
server. The local server will then push newly posted article to HQ office
and in turn, those articles will be posted to the ISP news feed. Can the
INND do this?

TIA.




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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkraid fails, RH 6.1
Date: 15 Aug 2000 08:34:59 GMT

Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm trying to configure 4x 60GB IDE to a RAID0 array.

: I used fdisk to create a p partition 1, with ID 0xFD on each of
: hda1, hdb1, hdc1, hdd1.

: Strangely, mkraid now issues:

: [root@bologna /root]# /sbin/mkraid -f /dev/md0
: DESTROYING the contents of /dev/md0 in 5 seconds, Ctrl-C if unsure!
: handling MD device /dev/md0
: analyzing super-block
: disk 0: /dev/hda1, 24066kB, raid superblock at 24000kB
: disk 1: /dev/hdb1, 60026841kB, raid superblock at 60026752kB
: disk 2: /dev/hdc1, 60026841kB, raid superblock at 60026752kB
: disk 3: /dev/hdd1, 60026841kB, raid superblock at 60026752kB
: mkraid: aborted, see the syslog and /proc/mdstat for potential clues.


Problem solved. Used old raid in kernel with new raidtools.
Applying a raid patch to a virgin kernel 2.2.14 helped.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Attn: Bob M
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:12:26 -0500

Here in comp.os.linux.misc,
"Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>I wonder if any of you fellows that are using these Compaq's with the BIOS
>access on the HD have had any luck with running Linux on them.

I use XOSL (http://www.xosl.org) as a graphical boot manager on my two
Deskpros, and one of them is running Windows 95, PC-DOS, and Red Hat.

Seems to work fine as a Linux fileserver for my LAN...

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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Website coming up as HTML text on Apache server in Netscape..
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:57:10 +0100

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:51:23 -0700, "Johnmichael Monteith"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>I am posting this in a Linux newsgroup because it seems to be somewhat
>related to the Linux Red Hat 6.1 / Apache server it is being run on since
>when I changed servers to HTTPS it seemed to run a little better.

apache is sending the wrong mime type with html documents. Read the apache
manual pages for info on associating mime types with documents types.

Should be text/html not text/plain



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:13:55 GMT

I am experimenting with the suid stuff. In an experiment
I create a script /bin/shutdown which just exec /sbin/shutdown.
The script is set root ID. When I run it as a non-root user,
it will refuse to run, saying something like "must be root
to run".

Could anyone explain this behavior?


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From: Grant Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:28:28 +1200

I think they need just to be re-prompted for login if  just a CR is sent
rather then getting a bad login prompt.
I didn't get that they want a null login from the mail I read.

Maybe it's for some kind of automated remote task via telnet. Isn't expect a
tool for this kind of thing ?

I don't have in.telnetd on my system :  maybe
    man telnetd
or
    man in.telnetd
would be the place to start.

Bill \"Houdini\" Weiss wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:17:07 -0400, Mara allowed "Mark T. Dame"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to write:
>
> >Hello.
> >
> >I have a RedHat 6.2 system on which I need to change the behavior of
> >/bin/login for telnet sessions.  When you telnet to the box and press
> ><Enter> at the login: prompt (without entering a username) you get
> >"Login incorrect".  On the console it just gives you another login:
> >prompt.  I need /bin/login to behave the same way for a telnet session
> >as it does for the console (at least in this regard).
>
> Are you out of your mind?  You want a null login on a publically accesable
> system?  Jesus..
>
> If you realy want to, make a user with no name or password.  BAD IDEA.
>
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> minus the _spam, of course
>
> They come at 3:30 in the morning.  Most people aren't up then, but I am.
> I can't sleep... ever!
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From: Shyam Govardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Sony SDT-5000 Tape Drive on Redhat 6.1
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:29:57 GMT

Thanks... It worked first go... No problems! Both ARKEIA and BRU work as
well.

- Shyam

Bob Hauck wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:03:42 GMT, Shyam Govardhan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I just bought a second-hand Sony SCSI Tape Drive SDT-5000. Has anyone
> >got this working on Redhat 6.1. I have got a Tekram DC-315U Ultra
> >SCSI adapter.
> >
> >Please let me know if this tape drive works on Linux
>
> SCSI tape drives generally work on Linux.  Just hook it up and use it
> via /dev/st?, where ? is 0 for the first one, 1, for the second, etc.
>
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting from a different kernel image
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:49:46 -0400

Juergen Pfann wrote:
> 
> Peter Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > You can do it with loadlin - just pass the name of the new
> > kernel in the parameters.
> >
> > The other problem (which applies with lilo and loadlin) is
> > if the modules don't match the kernel, eg different
> > versions. I don't know what is the best way to handle this.
> 
> (I don't like crossposting - posting to c.o.l.m. only).
> I guess, the reason that you can't pass a different kernel
> file name "on the fly" must be that LILO doesn't know of
> files and filesystems at boot time - unlike FreeBSD, for
> instance, I believe.

I believe /sbin/lilo is the program that figures out where
the files listed in /etc/lilo.conf are physically located,
and those raw locations get punched into the LILO boot
code.  LILO doesn't have the ability to walk a file system. 
In OS's where the boot loader does have that ability, it's
usually limited to certain types of fs's only and requires a
separate boot partition for that reason- e.g. current
versions of SCO unix and others. 

BTW, lilo would probably have been a lot less confusing if
/sbin/lilo had been named "mkliloboot" or something like
that..

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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why suid'ed shutdown refuses to run?
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:56:34 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I am experimenting with the suid stuff. In an experiment
> I create a script /bin/shutdown which just exec /sbin/shutdown.
> The script is set root ID. When I run it as a non-root user,
> it will refuse to run, saying something like "must be root
> to run".
> 
> Could anyone explain this behavior?

Two things:

Shell scripts can't run suid.  You can do the chmod, but the
kernel ignores it, for security reasons.  You'd need to
compile a binary for this to work at all.

Secondly- a program (or a script, for that matter) can
determine if your real id is the same as your effective id,
and can choose not to run if you aren't really who you
became by virtue of suid.  I don't think /sbin/shutdown is
apt to have such code, but I've seen it now and then for
other reasons.

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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:44:10 -0800

"Bill \"Houdini\" Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:17:07 -0400, Mara allowed "Mark T. Dame"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to write:
>
>>Hello.
>>
>>I have a RedHat 6.2 system on which I need to change the behavior of
>>/bin/login for telnet sessions.  When you telnet to the box and press
>><Enter> at the login: prompt (without entering a username) you get
>>"Login incorrect".  On the console it just gives you another login:
>>prompt.  I need /bin/login to behave the same way for a telnet session
>>as it does for the console (at least in this regard).
>
>Are you out of your mind?  You want a null login on a publically accesable
>system?  Jesus..
>
>If you realy want to, make a user with no name or password.  BAD IDEA.

He did not say he wanted a null login.  He wants a null entry to
cause a "Login incorrect" response rather than just provide
another login prompt.

That would be a rather simple hack to make to the getty program;
however, it is probably not one that should actually be made.

The typical script for a shell login via a serial port expects
to be able to send multiple newlines to the serial port to
eventually wake up a getty process of some kind, and
then detect a "login:" prompt.  Until a loginID is detected, the
getty process does not determine if it should spawn a login
process or something else, and no response other than the login
prompt should be available.  Of course what that initial getty
process connected to the serial port might be doing can be
extremely complex (with mgetty etc.), so redesigning the entire
set of expected behavior is not likely to be productive when
it is likely to break so many preexisting expectations.

Hence, the question is why does one need something different?
What is the perceived advantage of a "Login incorrect" response
compared to another "login:" prompt?  Perhaps a better alternative
is available.

  Floyd

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem mounting Windows partition
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:27:57 GMT

  David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:53:17 -0700, wrote :

D> I have a Windows partition at hda1. When I try:
D> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
D> I get the message "mount: mount point /mnt/win does not exist." I'm
D> doing this as root and double checked hda1 in fdisk, but I can't
D> figure out what is wrong. Can anyone help me figure this out? Thanks.
D>                                                                                     
                    

mkdir /mnt/win
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win





                                                                                       
    
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: when will we see RH6.3? 7.0?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:35:18 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Vegard Engen would say:
>On 3 Aug 2000 23:27:03 GMT, Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>When is the next release of RedHat due, anyone know?
>
>My guess that 7.0 will come with a 2.4 kernel. Thus, it will be out soon
>after we have a "non-paperbag" version of 2.4.

Consider too that it likely will include:
a) XFree86 4.0
b) Some form of Helix Gnome, perhaps even awaiting "Nautilus"

>There is, alas, a beta out now. But based on what I heard, I would not
>recommend it for the faint of heart. There are some glitches, at
>least if I'm to trust a couple of friends who have tried it.

... Which I don't regard as worthy of the slightest bit of "alas."

By releasing the beta now, with clear labelling that it is not for the
"faint of heart," it offers the opportunity for some _actually useful_
testing to take place.

It doesn't beat genuine regression testing, and it would do RHAT well
to take some cues from the test suites Cygnus had for GCC, and have
some _heavily automated_ test suites to make sure RHAT Linux conforms
to _some_ form of "functioning well."

I saw a "technology pre-release" from Caldera of Linux "pre-2.4" with
some experimental libc, gcc, and X stuff boxed at CompUSA the other day;
that's probably about as "flakey" as the present form of RHAT 7...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Address Book or PIM for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:35:19 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when J Garcia would say:
>I am looking for an address book/PIM program for Linux
>which would run in character mode (console app just
>like the minicom program) with ability to export info
>to text files. I am not interested in GNOME bloatware
>apps btw. Anybody want to recommend their favorite
>app? Thanks for replying.

Just like the long-talked-about SVGAlib-based web browser, this is
something that has been talked about, albeit not as much, but which has
not seen any serious attempt at implementation.
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readability, modifiability, and portability of its software."
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Subject: Sending SMS with a Modem and Linux
From: AZZLA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 05:41:18 -0700

Hi all !

I'm trying to set up something I can send a SMS with, and so i
tried YAPS. I have a Modem up and running, HylaFax is working
smoothly.
But YAPS always complains, I can't get it to work.


www1# yaps <my-mobile-#> test
Found service D2 for <my-mobile-#>
Sending following message:
<my-mobile-#> (D2, <my-mobile-#> ): test (It's me!)
Trying to open /dev/modem for modem standard
[Hangup]
[Send] <cr>
[Cmd Mdzz 200]
[Send] ATZ<cr>
[Expect]  timeout
Unable to dial D2

It seems the Modem can't be initialized correctly, but WHY ??
Hylafax NEVER had this problems !!




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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Problem With /bin/login Behavior
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:52:22 -0800

Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Bill \"Houdini\" Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:17:07 -0400, Mara allowed "Mark T. Dame"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to write:
>>
>>>Hello.
>>>
>>>I have a RedHat 6.2 system on which I need to change the behavior of
>>>/bin/login for telnet sessions.  When you telnet to the box and press
>>><Enter> at the login: prompt (without entering a username) you get
>>>"Login incorrect".  On the console it just gives you another login:
>>>prompt.  I need /bin/login to behave the same way for a telnet session
>>>as it does for the console (at least in this regard).
>>
>>Are you out of your mind?  You want a null login on a publically accesable
>>system?  Jesus..
>>
>>If you realy want to, make a user with no name or password.  BAD IDEA.
>
>He did not say he wanted a null login.  He wants a null entry to
>cause a "Login incorrect" response rather than just provide
>another login prompt.

Hmmm...  I read that wrong too.  He wants telnet to act like
getty, not the other way around.

I suspect that is a fairly simple hack to telnet.d, but I've
never looked at that code in specific and there might be just as
many gotcha's as there are going in the opposite direction.

  Floyd

>That would be a rather simple hack to make to the getty program;
>however, it is probably not one that should actually be made.
>
>The typical script for a shell login via a serial port expects
>to be able to send multiple newlines to the serial port to
>eventually wake up a getty process of some kind, and
>then detect a "login:" prompt.  Until a loginID is detected, the
>getty process does not determine if it should spawn a login
>process or something else, and no response other than the login
>prompt should be available.  Of course what that initial getty
>process connected to the serial port might be doing can be
>extremely complex (with mgetty etc.), so redesigning the entire
>set of expected behavior is not likely to be productive when
>it is likely to break so many preexisting expectations.
>
>Hence, the question is why does one need something different?
>What is the perceived advantage of a "Login incorrect" response
>compared to another "login:" prompt?  Perhaps a better alternative
>is available.
>
>  Floyd
>
>-- 
>Floyd L. Davidson                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recommendation on NNTP server setup
Date: 15 Aug 2000 12:59:41 GMT

Joe Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hello,

: ISP News feed <-> HQ Office <-> branch office

: The idea is only selected groups will be transfer from HQ office to branch
: office. The people in branch office can read and post article in the local
: server. The local server will then push newly posted article to HQ office
: and in turn, those articles will be posted to the ISP news feed. Can the
: INND do this?


Might want to try this:

: ISP News feed <-> HQ Office <-> branch office

  ISP News feed <-> HQ (INN) <-> branch (Leafnode)


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