Linux-Misc Digest #561, Volume #25 Fri, 25 Aug 00 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best Linux Distribution (Paul Lew)
Backup to remote tape does not work (Ulf)
Hurray!!! (root)
Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Dances With Crows)
Re: Deleting a linux partition from a Windows system
Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings (Dances With Crows)
Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings (-ljl-)
Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup (Wayne Pollock)
Re: ??:How To Read Multiple Data Tracks From A CD?? (Douglas E. Mitton)
Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup (Dances With Crows)
Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question (Sylvain Demers)
X server problems ("Keyur Kanabar")
rage 128 problems (was: deleting a Linux partition from DOS) (Dances With Crows)
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Nels Tomlinson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distribution
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:09:50 GMT
On 25 Aug 2000 18:31:04 GMT, Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Asking the question
>
> "what is the best window manager" (or best whatever....)
>
>is just an abbreviation for the question
>
>"I know nothing about WMs, what are some of the more popular WMs and
which ones
>do people like and why? What are the strengths and weeknesses of
the different WMs?".
>
>The meaning of the question is clear, it is not a stupid one at all,
>and often lead to interesting and informative discussions.
>
The meaning is NOT CLEAR as, semantically, the "best" means the better of
all others. If someone posted that such and such distribution is "bad",
would you take it to mean good or as some use the word "bad" as to mean
"good" or "great". Now, what kind of answer do you expect if you asked
which distribution is "bad".
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From: Ulf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backup to remote tape does not work
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:00:52 GMT
I am using the following command to backup the directory "foo" on the
local system to the tape drive on the remote system "bar":
tar cvfb - 20 foo | rsh bar dd of=/dev/nst0 obs=20b
The backup begins and data is written to the tape, but then the process
exits with:
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
32586+15642 records in
2215+0 records out
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
--Ulf
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hurray!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:13:13 -0400
> Lol... i forget to uncomment (ACT (Y)) in isapnp.conf!
im a moron... ok, so anyway, thanks a pile everyone!
youre all my respective heros!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Date: 25 Aug 2000 19:14:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:15:35 -0400, Sylvain Demers wrote:
>My only problem now is to figure out where is what (I've been using RH
>and Mandrake almost exculively for the last year and a half or so),
>since SuSE is quite different than RH as far as configuration files
>goes. Can someone tell me what is the equivalent (if any) of the
>/etc/rc.local file under SuSE? I used to add some commands in rc.local
>under Redhat, but I can't find where to put them under SuSE.
/sbin/init.d/boot.local is what you're looking for. Oh yes, instead of
N+1 tiny files in /etc/sysconfig, SuSE all the variables and config info
used at system boot in /etc/rc.config . XF86Config is in
/etc/XF86Config instead of /etc/X11/XF86Config as well. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleting a linux partition from a Windows system
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:26:47 -0400
You need a linux boot disk:
If you don't have one, there's a root/boot disk image on the net that you
can download and write into a floppy.
Then proceed to use it to boot and go ahead with the partitions.
Just be careful , because a careless typeing error can nuke the wrong
partition.
hth
higgy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o68tq$6ij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sorry, I know it's probably blasphemy here, but I really need help.
>
> The problem is whilst installing SuSE Linux 6.4, I discovered that X does
> not currently seem to be compatible with Rage 128 Pro cards (not my Rage
> Fury Pro at any rate). After reading SuSEs support database, I tried
> downloading a couple of Rage 128 servers, but nothing worked. Now I'm
> running low on HD space in Windows, so I'd like to reclaim my (currently
> useless) SuSE partition for Windows use.
>
> Unfortunately, msdos fdisk won't delete it. It tells me that it can't
delete
> the EXT partition because it contains logical devices. Then, when I select
> the option to delete the logical devices, it tells me there aren't any.
Bit
> of a catch 22.
>
> Can anyone offer me any advice as to how to proceed?
>
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings
Date: 25 Aug 2000 19:29:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 25 Aug 2000 16:06:35 GMT, Peter Bismuti wrote:
>Right now I boot my machine, run netconf, and then reboot, is there a
>faster way? I tried booting into single user, running netconf, and
>then running init 3, but this does not work.
Yep.
ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig eth0 111.111.111.111 broadcast 111.111.111.255 netmask
255.255.255.0 up
route add default gw 111.111.111.1
(static IP)
ifconfig eth0 down
ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up
dhclient eth0 (or pump, or dhcpcd, depending on what you use)
(dynamic IP via DHCP)
Whatever netconf does may be sourced in /sbin/init.d/boot or
/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit , which is only run once, at machine boot time.
The commands above can be executed at just about any time, and typing
them in is quite a bit faster than using some program like netconf.
Once you've figured out the correct net settings, put those into
netconf, or figure out where the system keeps the settings (possibly in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts on RedHat, in /etc/rc.config on SuSE) and
change them manually.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: do I have to reboot to change network settings
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:24:39 GMT
In article <8o65ib$1k5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) wrote:
> Right now I boot my machine, run netconf, and then reboot, is there
> a faster way? I tried booting into single user, running netconf,
> and then running init 3, but this does not work.
Look at:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network
mine take parameters of stop, start, restart, ... .
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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Before you buy.
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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:24:43 -0400
As root, go to the /etc/rc.d/init.d directory
start apache by typing "./httpd start".
Do "ps -ef" and see if it is in fact running.
If so, you need to arrange to have apache start automatically in the
proper runlevels. Probably leves 3 and 5. Check your documentation
on how to do that.
If Apache isn't runing, cd to "/etc/httpd/logs" and look at the
error log file. If you can't figure out how to fix whatever it
reports, post your question again and include the log output.
-Wayne Pollock
paul simdars wrote:
>
> I have ReedHat 6.1 installed . Apache and mysql are running. Then I
> thought I'd add php to put it all together. In added the apache-devel
> package from the CD and then I went to php.net (I think that was the
> place). They have released php4 and were encouraging everyone to
> upgrade to it. I downloaded the source and installed it. It went
> well. BUT, now the apache server no longer runs. Any clues as to what
> went wrong?
> A second point, one interesting thing I noted along the way was that in
> two different documents I looked at each had their command to start
> apache. Neither were recognized by my computer.
> Thanks for any help.
> Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas E. Mitton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ??:How To Read Multiple Data Tracks From A CD??
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:33:49 GMT
On 25 Aug 2000 19:08:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:38:58 GMT, Douglas E. Mitton wrote:
>>The problem is that the CD is damaged and all that mount sees (in
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Linux and Windows) is the last session (about 1% of the total data
>>stored). The disk was written in 15 sessions and I can see all those
>>tracks.
>
>Damaged how? Are there a lot of scratches over the beginning area of
>the disk, or is the data layer itself actually damaged? If it's
>scratches, you can work wonders with a CD-Repair kit, or with clear nail
>polish(!). If the data layer itself is damaged, there may not be a
>whole lot you can do.
The first 14 of 15 tracks were written multi-session then the last
track was written with windows packet software.
>>I read about the mount session option BUT it is not available in my
>>Slackware 7 mount ... it must be very recent.
>
>Nope. Been there for at least 1.5 years.
> mount -t iso9660 -o session=X /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
>and if that doesn't work, it's entirely possible that the disc's TOC is
>damaged beyond repair.
The option wasn't in the man page and when I used it, though no error
message was generated, it still just showed the last track, the same
thing that just plain mounting the CD provides..
>Hmm. If this data is incredibly important, it might be a good idea to
>look at the cdparanoia source code and see if it's possible to adapt the
>methods it uses to read data tracks. Or take a look at "readcd", which
>ships with mkisofs and is supposed to be able to read damaged data discs
>with some degree of accuracy. It has a "sectors=" option for
>determining which sectors to read, too. You can get a sector range from
>"cdrecord -msinfo" if nothing else. HTH,
To my friend it is very important ... it is a collection of digital
photographs that he erased from the camera and his hard drive after
they were copied to CD. The final write was a MSWin mistake.
The reason I think the data is still accessible is that just by using
"dd" to read the raw device to a file, then mounting it with the loop
device I can read the first photos (in the first session) that was
written to the disk. By using cdrecord -toc I can see all 15
sessions. I hope I am correct in assuming that if I just find the
"dd" command syntax to read each of the 15 session tracks to the hard
drive then use cdrecord to write ONLY the FIRST 14 back to a new CD he
will be back to the starting point before the accident.
At the very least I should be able to mount each of the track/session
images read from the device via the loop device, copy the files to a
new directory structure on the hard drive, create a new ISO image and
write that back to a new CDR.
I am searching for command syntax and previous posters experience to
try to prove my assumption. I am reading up on cdrdao and it
supposedly should allow individual session tracks to be read to
harddrive image files.
Thanks again for the response.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: linux/apache/php/mysql setup
Date: 25 Aug 2000 19:37:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:15:55 -0500, paul simdars wrote:
>I have ReedHat 6.1 installed .
^^^^^^^
Interesting. Does it come with X-Basketweaver and GNU Grass-Plaiting?
:-)
>Apache and mysql are running. Then I thought I'd add php to put it all
>together. In added the apache-devel package from the CD and then I
>went to php.net (I think that was the place). They have released php4
>and were encouraging everyone to upgrade to it. I downloaded the
>source and installed it. It went well. BUT, now the apache server no
>longer runs. Any clues as to what went wrong?
It's entirely possible that you have to recompile Apache so that it can
see and use the PHP module you've built. There's a pretty good guide to
putting together Apache+PHP+MySQL over at
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/21/index2a_page3.html?tw=programming
so you may wish to follow that. I did, and had hardly any problems
getting MySQL+PHP+Apache running well.
>A second point, one interesting thing I noted along the way was that in
>two different documents I looked at each had their command to start
>apache. Neither were recognized by my computer.
Yep. RedHat puts the Apache start script somewhere that isn't quite
standard; do a "locate apachectl" to find out where the apachectl binary
is, then start up your server with "/path/to/apachectl start". After
finding my apachectl, I made a symlink to /usr/local/sbin/apachectl so
that it would be easily available....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Sylvain Demers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From RedHat to SuSE: A simple question
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:45:11 -0400
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:15:35 -0400, Sylvain Demers wrote:
> >My only problem now is to figure out where is what (I've been using RH
> >and Mandrake almost exculively for the last year and a half or so),
> >since SuSE is quite different than RH as far as configuration files
> >goes. Can someone tell me what is the equivalent (if any) of the
> >/etc/rc.local file under SuSE? I used to add some commands in rc.local
> >under Redhat, but I can't find where to put them under SuSE.
>
> /sbin/init.d/boot.local is what you're looking for. Oh yes, instead of
> N+1 tiny files in /etc/sysconfig, SuSE all the variables and config info
> used at system boot in /etc/rc.config . XF86Config is in
> /etc/XF86Config instead of /etc/X11/XF86Config as well. HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
> http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> -----------------------------/ --Henry Spencer
Thanks a lot for the info. Unfortunately, I've tried boot.local, but it
triggers the commands way too early in the boot process, before my eth0
is up actually - since one of these commands is used to link my
registered domain name to my dynamic IP adress, it requires Internet
access to work, thus the command _HAS_ to be launched _after_ the
activation of my eth0 device. Is there a file that is launched after all
other services are up and running, like it's the case for rc.local under
RH?
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From: "Keyur Kanabar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X server problems
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:41:51 +0100
Hi
I've got a problem with an PC Xserver sever I'm using. The X server (X
Manager) is running on a Win 98 box. On my network I've got a box running
Linux.
What I've managed to do is to run an X windows session (GNOME, Enlightenment
etc.....)on my Linux box and have the displayed piped throught the network
and on to my Win98 box via the X server. I done this using xdm.
Now the problem I'm having is that when I install new themes i.e .ethemes
then somtimes certains fonts would be missing on the menu etc.. hence I
wouldn't be able to do anything because I can't see any of the fonts. I've
tried installing the fonts required onto my Xsever, I also tried using an
xfs but no luck.
Does anyone know what the problem could be?? Am I going about it the right
way?? Any help would be much appreciated.
KK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: rage 128 problems (was: deleting a Linux partition from DOS)
Date: 25 Aug 2000 19:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:52:46 +0100, higgy wrote:
>The problem is whilst installing SuSE Linux 6.4, I discovered that X does
>not currently seem to be compatible with Rage 128 Pro cards (not my Rage
>Fury Pro at any rate). After reading SuSEs support database, I tried
>downloading a couple of Rage 128 servers, but nothing worked. Now I'm
>running low on HD space in Windows, so I'd like to reclaim my (currently
>useless) SuSE partition for Windows use.
Have you checked this?
http://xfree86.org/3.3.6/r1285.html
I've heard tell of people getting problematic Rage128 cards to work with
a particular ChipID setting. Go to http://deja.com/home_ps.shtml and
search comp.os.linux.hardware for "Rage 128" and see what you can find.
It's probably nothing too serious.
>Unfortunately, msdos fdisk won't delete it. It tells me that it can't delete
DOS FDISK.EXE is seriously brain-damaged. Your best bet is to use Linux
fdisk to delete the Linux partition. There's a pretty nice one-floppy
rescue system at http://www.toms.net/rb/ that contains all the
tools you need to fix this and many other problems.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Nels Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:51:08 -0500
Arthur Sowers wrote:
>
> FYI, I'm a very newbie newbie, but have been dabbling with Linux since
> Summer of '99 (see footnote 1, below on experience summary). I got into
> Linux because I was disgusted with Win9X, by the way.
>
> Mainly I need a wordprocessor and a spreadsheet (something like Excel, if
> possible) and I need that to get work done. The OS and tinkering with it
> is going to be a long, drawn out hobby for me.
>
> I bought WP8 for Linux (Corel's) at a local Sam's club. I bought Sun's
> CD-ROM disk for $10 with StarOffice 5.1 on it (it has versions of SO for
> Win98 [and I have one copy installed as a Win98 ap], Linux, Solaris, and
> OS/2, by the way), and just this weekend, I decided to spring for Applix
> 5.0 (an office suite for Linux) at Best Buy (must have been on sale, the
> cash register rang it up for $62) to see how well it ran.
>
> All of my boxes are Red Hat 5.2 except one; that one is RH 6.2. Most are
> 200 mHz, one is 400 mhz. All are 32 MB ram. HDs are 1 gig, or 1 gig
> partitions. I have RH 5.2 running on a 486dx-33 with 8 MB of RAM, by the
> way. The fvwm window manager comes up rather slowly after I type
> "startx" at the prompt, but otherwise is a nice box. Once the window
> manager is up and running, the aps-games-utilities run just a little
> slowly.
>
> I installed SO and WP on several Linux boxes, and Applix on both a 5.2 and
> a 6.2 box.
>
> The Applix install had some glitches. But it launches very fast and exits
> very fast. HOWEVER, I had a bunch of windows open, then closed them before
> exiting the whole ap and shortly afterwards noticed in the terminal window
> that I used to launch the ap a series of warnings regarding "unexpectedly
> destroyed windows" AND a 1.5 MB "core" file in my root directory with a
> buch of gibberish in it. "core" files suggest that something went wrong
> somewhere and that bothered me. I do not see an uninstaller for Applix.
> Applix required an upgrade or override of some glibic libraries. I chose
> the override route. Its a gtk+ application, whatever that means but it
> worried me a little. A launches by typing "applix" at the prompt. The
> manuals for Applix are not too bad, but are certainly not thick. They
> show, in the "install" booklet, a long list of fixed bugs from ver 4.0,
> which is nice. But there is almost nothing there on "trouble-shooting" or
> explaining a few things on options & routes of installing the ap.
>
> SO launches (and exits) very slowly but has not given me any
> "trouble" like a core file or warning messages anywhere (I have had
> crashes under win98 and I have read in a few places now where crashes can
> take place in SO with complex operations). The install of SO (now on five
> boxes) has always been flawless. As I recall, there is an uninstaller for
> SO. SO has a low grade web browser (Id rather use something else) and a
> Newsgroup client that crashed on me several times (from Win98, by the
> way). The email client worked however. SO is launched by typing
> "./soffice" at the prompt. (you can also click on the menu icon on the KDE
> desktop). Its nice that you can download SO, for any of the four OSes,
> from Sun's website, for free. SO ver 5.2 is on a CD-ROM (with other
> aps/games/utilities) for, I think, this month's issue of "Maximum Linux."
>
> WP launches (and exits) faster than SO but slower than A. Its also quite
> good and well behaved (i.e. no core files generated, no error messages
> generated in the launch terminal screen. WP is just a word processor, but
> if you don't need math functions or cell formulas, you can create
> "tables" in grids as a low functionality "spreadsheet" in WP. WP launches
> by typing "./wp" at the prompt in the "bin" directory. I had a chance to
> use the uninstaller in WP8 to remove WP from a directory I did not want it
> in and then reinstall it into a directory I did want it in, and the
> uninstaller worked flawlessly. No residual files or directories.
>
> I've configured printing for SO and WP8 at least three of the RH 5.2 boxes
> and it needs about the same amount of tinkering as for Windows to get a
> printer to run.
>
> I expect to spend a fair bit more time evaluating these three packages
> before getting set up with one of them with my regular work.
>
> Arthur E. Sowers
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>
> footnote:
> I'd like to put in a word for Red Hat 5.2 and 6.2: I've put 5.2 on six
> boxes so far, including the slow 486 with 8 MB of ram, without a failure
> or glitch (most will boot off their HD, two need a boot disk [the trick I
> learned is to make two native partitions, one is a small "/boot" native
> partition and the second is a large root "/" partition during the install
> setup]). Most other distributions I've tried sometimes crash on install,
> or always crash on install. AND, nobody is paying me to say this. I have
> no relation with Red Hat or anyone who works there. I always used the
> "text-based" install. Sometimes the graphics installs don't work.
>
> I've also had my share of screw-ups with Linux such as getting into stuff
> without knowing how to get out of it, or doing stupid things at the
> command line. And, otherwise having to reinstall Linux a few times. It
> helps to read a good book on Linux/Unix and at least be aware of those
> little details that can blow up your install.
Hi,
I'd recommend tht you try Star Office 5.2. I've used 5.1 and been
disappointed, but 5.2 seems to be quite a bit better. It imports
MSOffice stuff VERY well, though the MBA students here are sometimes
clever (in the negative, ironic sense) enough that their homework
assignments screw it up a bit. Also, 32M is really not enough RAM for
SO. I've 112M, and that's useable, but more would be better.
I've been using Gnumeric a bit, when I need a spreadsheet. It seems to
be pretty good, and not as bloated as SO. SO is nice, but it's just so
big when you load it all at once, as seems to be necessary!
Normally I don't use the word-processors at all. I use emacs for
entering text and programming, and Latex when I need pretty output.
Once you get past the hurdle of getting the first document written, it
seems to be much easier to get a really nice-looking result in a given
amount of effort. This way I concentrate on what I want to say, rather
than getting hung up on formatting. I have used this for a couple of
little papers, for many quizzes and tests, and will be using it for my
dissertation.
I'd like to hear your opinions on Applix and Corel, once you've settled
on one or another office package.
Good luck,
Nels Tomlinson
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