Linux-Misc Digest #616, Volume #25 Tue, 29 Aug 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Solaris x86 won't boot from LILO (Dances With Crows)
Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Cokey de Percin)
Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Cokey de Percin)
Re: How do I get the PID of a login shell? (David Efflandt)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Abit BH6 RH6.2 2.2.16 CPU Temp Monitor (Nathan Underwood)
Re: Restaurant Booking System (Richard Robinson)
Re: How To Configure LILO (Leonard Evens)
Re: tape drives ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: SAMBA password problem (Hans Marcus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kr=FCger?=)
Re: How do I get the PID of a login shell? ("N. McNeill")
Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Will Linux go bankrupt? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: DCE on Linux (Christopher Browne)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Christopher Browne)
Running without X (Robert Schweikert)
Indrema L600 Linux Console Info ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
named,httpd,sshd Aren't Started During Boot ("Scott B. Drummonds")
Re: Free ISPs? (Carl Fink)
Re: Running without X (MH)
Re: Headless X86 Linux system ("William Alexander Segraves")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Solaris x86 won't boot from LILO
Date: 30 Aug 2000 01:13:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:52:05 GMT, Timothy J. Lee wrote:
>I installed Solaris 8 x86 onto a computer with the following ATA disk
>Primary master: 3.2GB ATA disk with Linux
>Primary slave: 4.3GB ATA disk that now has Solaris 8 x86 on it.
>Secondary master: ATAPI CD-ROM
>
>I installed by booting Software CD 1 instead of the Install CD, thanks
>to those who replied in the previous thread.
>After installing Solaris 8 x86, I reconfigured LILO on Linux with
>other = /dev/hdb
> label = solaris
>reran /sbin/lilo, and rebooted. When the LILO: prompt came, I typed
>solaris. Then, across the top of the screen, came:
>Solaris Boot Sector========================================= Version 2
>
>but then it just stopped.
>Solaris 8 x86 boots properly if the computer's BIOS is set to boot from
>D instead of C. What could be preventing it from booting from LILO?
Unsure, but you may wish to try the following bits in your lilo.conf.
I've used this same trick to get Lose9x to boot from /dev/hdb:
other=/dev/hdb
label=solaris
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80
table=/dev/hdb
Check the LILO docs to find out exactly what this does--basically, it
fools the Solaris boot code into thinking that /dev/hda is /dev/hdb.
This is temporary; the Solaris kernel can figure out what's really going
on once it's loaded.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:14:49 GMT
William Alexander Segraves wrote:
>
> "Peter Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ***snipped***>
> > Another problem - unless you make changes (I've forgotten to
> > which file, but it might be /etc/hosts.allow), you can't run
> > halt, shutdown, reboot etc except from the keyboard. This
> > includes running them from the serial terminal.
> >
> ***snipped***
>
> I thought I had the same problem. Found all I had to do was telenet to the
> machine, login with my userid, make myself root, cd to /sbin, and execute,
> e.g., shutdown -h now, in order to shut down the remote system.
>
> Bill Segraves
> Auburn, AL
Try 'su -' instead. This will cause the login to pick up the root
environment and the pathing will be correct.
Cokey
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:17:37 GMT
Peter Mitchell wrote:
>
> One of the problems is that some of the functions keys don't
> work. Another is that even su doesn't let you do everything.
> On mine it would not let me halt or shutdown (for instance).
Hmmm.. Does on mine. There isn't any difference between the serial
terminal and a xterm. Both work the same if you 'su -'. Try it.
> I haven't tried sudo yet though. Some of these things can be
> set as permissions granted or denied somewhere (is it
> hosts.allow?) Neverthe less it is still useful.
>
> Peter
>
\
Cokey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get the PID of a login shell?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:23:05 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:04:32 GMT, Niclas Ridefjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>I want to get the PID's of all logged in users login shells. I belive
>that on some platforms one could use 'who' for this but that does n't
>seem to work under Linux. Does someone know a way get the PID under
>Linux?
See 'man ps'. 'ps aux' will show all processes and their PID.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:15:37 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don't think I said it was impossible. I think I said that it was
> much more difficult that you seem to think it is. You are describing
> abstractions and just ignoring the nitty-gritty implementation details
> that make it complicated to actually do. If you think it is worth what
> might be years of effort, well, then you are free to start work. If
> you come back in six months with a prototype that does a subset of what
> you want and it shows promise, then some folks might actually want to
> help you. That's how it works.
I have noticed that Paul has not yet posted the concrete example of the
encoding for "touch" or "yes" to could be used for the meta installed that
he seems to be arguing for. Perhaps he is admitting that the details are
tricker than he tought when he glossed over them.
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From: Nathan Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Abit BH6 RH6.2 2.2.16 CPU Temp Monitor
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:36:20 -0400
I've got a Celeron 300a (running at 450) on an Abit BH6 motherboard, and
I was wondering if there is a way to monitor the CPU temp in Linux (I
use WindowMaker, Afterstep, and / or Enlightenment, or the cli). I use
MotherBoard Monitor for my Windoze boxes, but I haven't been able to
find anything that will run under *nix. If anyone knows of a utility or
kernel patch that will let me do this, please e-mail me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks in advance,
nathan j. underwood
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Robinson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Restaurant Booking System
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 01:37:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Briggs wrote:
>Darren Paxton wrote:
>:I work for a restaurant chain based in Glasgow, Scotland, and we would like
>:to introduce some form of online restaurant booking system to our website.
>
>I have vague memories of seeing some kind of pizza-shop software -- I
>think at Linuxberg or somewhere like that. I've no idea what it does.
I think there was an article in Linux Journal, maybe a year ago (give or
takse several months) by someone who did something like this. I don't know
if this helps ...
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How To Configure LILO
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:24:04 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a few questions on how to configure LILO.
>
> I recently installed Windows NT Workstation on my
> computer; however, the problem is that because of
> LILO, I cannot fully complete the Windows NT
> Workstation installation.
>
> Here are questions I'd like to ask.
>
> 1. How can I disable LILO temporarly?
> I have to disable LILO temporary; otherwise, the
> NT Workstation installation cannot be completed.
> By the way, just don't tell me how to disable LILO.
> I also need to know how to enable LILO as well! :)
>
> 2. How can I configure LILO?
> The Red Hat Package Manager installed LILO when I
> installed Linux on my machine. Since the Red Hat
> Package Manager took care of the installation process,
> I really don't know how to configure LILO by myself.
>
> The following describes some of the information about the
> hard drive:
>
> 1. There is one hard drive and it has three OSes
> I had installed NT Server and Linux, and then installed
> NT Workstation. (Everything was fine until I installed
> NT Workstation.)
>
> 2. The following is the current "lilo.conf" file from /etc/lilo.conf,
> which needs to be updated
>
> lilo.conf
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35-1
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hda5
> read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=NT
> table=/dev/hda
>
> 3. Current disk partitions information from Disk Druid
>
> | Mount Point Device Requested Actual Type
> | hda1 2447M 2447M OS/2 HPES <--NT server
> | hda5 2447M 2447M Linux native
> | hda6 62M 62M Linux swap
> | hda7 2447M 2447M DOS 16-bit >=32 <--NT workstation
> |
> |
> | Drive Summaries
> | Drive Geom [C/H/S] Total Used Free
> | hda [1245/255/63] 9766M 7404M 2362M [#######]
>
> Please let me know how to configure LILO. Thanks in advance!
>
> alea
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Once you have a lilo.conf set up, all you do is run the program
/sbin/lilo. However, if you put the lilo boot loader in the
master boot record, it is highly likely that NT will not boot.
Your lilo.conf does this.
An alternate approach is to put the lilo boot loader in
your Linux root partition, in this case /dev/hda2. You do this
by entering
boot=/dev/hda2
in the first line. Then
using the Linux fdisk, mark this as the active partition.
(When you run fdisk, it will tell you to enter 'm' to get
a list of commands. One of the commands toggles active
status of a partition. Probably /dev/hda1 is currently active.
Toggle it inactive and toggle /dev/hda2 active. Then enter
w to write the new partition table to the disk. Make sure you
run /sbin/lilo to put the lilo boot loader in the location
that your lilo.conf file specifies.
There is another method which relies on using the NT loader to
boot with lilo a secondary loader. This is describer in the
(mini?) HOWTO Linux+NT-loader.
However, before you do anything else, if NT doesn't boot, you
will have to restore the MBR. This can be done by booting
from a DOS/Windows startup disk and running the DOS fdisk withe
the appropriate option
fdisk/mbr
There is also a way to do it using the NT installation disk,
I believe, but I don't know what it is.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tape drives
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:46:27 -0400
> can anyone suggest a good quality tape drive that will work well under
> linux - in particular suse linux.
My Seagate STT220000N-MC ("Travan NS") is an internal SCSI drive with
hardware compression. It writes 10/20 GB tapes. Works very well, cost
about $350, plus $130 for 4 tapes, plus the SCSI controller. I think it's
fast SCSI-- transfers 1 MB/s. Came with Backup Exec for Windows, which is
a nice utility. For Linux I just use good old tar.
Large capacity is nice to have in a tape because it allows unattended full
backups. At present I can easily write all of my Windows data or all of my
Linux data onto one tape. Of course, the way hard drives keep growing,
sooner or later one tape won't be enough. But it will be a while yet.
Good luck,
Andrew.
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From: Hans Marcus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kr=FCger?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA password problem
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:04:35 -0300
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>
> Hello All!
>
> I'm trying to setup SAMBA so that I can access some of my files under a Win'98
> system as a shared drive, but am running into a problem. Every time I try to
> access my computer from the Win'98 system it tells me I need a password for
> \\BLACKDEATH\IPC$ and I have NO IDEA what to tell it!
>
> I've tried my own password, the password I've entered as my Samba password
> with smbpasswd (both the same PW), but it doesn't work.
>
> What do I need to do to be able to atleast LOOK at the available shares?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
Have you check if your samba-server and your win98-box are using the
same authentification-processes? I mean, win98 is, by default, set to
encrypt passwords. check if your samba-server is set up for encrypted
paswords. You can also tell win98 no to ecrypt passwords. Look at the
documentation comming with samba to do so
HMK
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From: "N. McNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get the PID of a login shell?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:08:07 -0400
Niclas Ridefjord wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I want to get the PID's of all logged in users login shells. I belive
> that on some platforms one could use 'who' for this but that does n't
> seem to work under Linux. Does someone know a way get the PID under
> Linux?
>
> /Niclas
try ps axu
do a man on ps or type ps --help in a xterm
--
N. McNeill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://linuxexcite.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: X-Window must die! What's alternative?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:20:02 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when kristian ragndahl would
say:
>>>>>> "BF" == Bob Fahey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> BF> "Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> BF> news:8lmqqa$isv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> Is there X-Window alternative?
>
> http://www.berlin-consortium.org/
"Berlin" isn't going to be an "alternative" to X until:
a) There is a web browser that can speak SSL that runs on it;
b) There is a port of Emacs to run on it;
c) There is a capable mail reader to run on it.
Seeing as they only fairly recently got it to do more than draw a
couple of boxes on screen, it seems fairly unlikely that it will
represent a _realistic_ alternative to X for quite some time to come
except amongst the community of people that like to blather about what
design features they would like to see.
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@" "freenet.carleton.ca")
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
How come you don't ever hear about gruntled employees?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Will Linux go bankrupt?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:20:07 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>So if Linux were to stay healthy, it can create cybermoney and
>use it as a way to sustain itself.
Linux is the name of an _operating system kernel_.
It is not a biological construct for which the term "healthy" is
particularly meaningful.
It does not have volition; it does whatever /etc/inittab indicates
that it should do.
It cannot create "cybermoney," nor can it _lose_ "cybermoney."
Linux is not a "person" in any reasonable interepretation of the term,
and cannot "sustain itself;" it requires hosts from a number of
perspectives:
- It must run on some sort of computer hardware;
- It must be initiated by some boot loader (LILO, MILO, SILO, Grub,
...);
- It is controlled, after boot time, by whatever processes are
spawned by the init process, usually controlled by configuration in
/etc/inittab.
As for the question, "Will Linux go bankrupt?" the answers are obvious.
Of course it won't; the suggestion is absolute _NONSENSE_. Linux
doesn't have any assets that it can lose, and is not a person that
could owe debts.
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "acm.org")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
"As I've gained more experience with Perl it strikes me that it
resembles Lisp in many ways, albeit Lisp as channeled by an awk script
on acid." -- Tim Moore (on comp.lang.lisp)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:20:05 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>Sure you could use xml, as long as your install program can write it.
>It would equivalent to the registry in WinX or the assorted /etc files
>(and more) in *x. But these mechanisms work (ugly as they may be in
>their own unique ways). Why are you trying to fix the part of software
>installation & configuration that isn't broken?
Indeed.
What the world could use is some Better Tools for managing /etc files.
For that purpose, I find I very much like cfengine
<http://www.iu.hioslo.no/cfengine/>,
which provides a rule-oriented system with operators for setting up
directory links, modifying text-based config files (which is _very_
nice for modifying things like /etc/hosts, /etc/fstab, and such),
copying files into place, and Lots Of Other Stuff.
There would be _some_ merit to creating an XML or SGML DTD to describe
cfengine rules, thereby allowing cfengine configuration files to be
managed using the fabled "generic XML editing tools," and validated
before being dropped into place to give at least some _limited_
guarantees of good behaviour.
That would essentially amount to things like:
<filestatusrules>
<filestatusrule>
<filename> /etc/printcap </filename>
<mode> 644 </mode>
<owner> root </owner>
<action> fixplain </action>
</filestatusrule>
<!-- replacing "/etc/printcap m=644 o=root action=fixplain" -->
<filestatusrule>
<filename> /usr/sbin/sendmail </filename>
<mode> 755 </mode>
<owner> root </owner>
<action> fixplain </action>
</filestatusrule>
<!-- replacing "/usr/sbin/sendmail m=755 o=root action=fixplain" -->
</filestatusrules>
<editfiles>
<editfile>
<filename>/etc/apt/sources.list </filename>
<appendifnosuchline> deb file:/brownes/knuth/debianstuff unstable main
</appendifnosuchline>
<appendifnosuchline> deb http://alpha.onshore.com/debian local/
</appendifnosuchline>
<appendifnosuchline> deb http://hops.harvestroad.com.au/ debian/
</appendifnosuchline>
</editfile>
<editfile>
<filename> /etc/hosts </filename>
<appendifnosuchline> 192.168.1.5 knuth.brownes.org knuth cache
</appendifnosuchline>
<appendifnosuchline> 192.168.1.1 dantzig.brownes.org dantzig
</appendifnosuchline>
<appendifnosuchline> 192.168.1.7 godel.brownes.org godel
</appendifnosuchline>
</editfile>
</editfiles>
Mind you, the existing cfengine syntax _works_, which means that it
would be likely to take some convincing to "force" anyone to move over
to using an XML parser for this.
Just saying that this is a "cool idea" is not going to convince Mark
Burgess to jump all over himself to do the rewriting necessary to
integrate in an XML parser to this end.
Anybody that thinks that it is _such a neat idea_ to use XML for this
stuff really needs to start working on either:
a) Prototyping it, or
b) Implementing it.
It may be a slick idea to use XML as the file format for Sendmail.
Paul Vixie isn't likely to take seriously a proposal where someone
says, "I think it would be cool for you to integrate in an XML parser,
Paul."
He will take (marginally) more seriously someone that has _actually
done the integration_.
Anyone that actually _cares_ about making XML into the data format
used for "/etc/hosts.xml" needs to _not_ waste their time blathering
about it, but rather to spend their time building an alternative
implementation of gethostbyname() that uses an XML parser.
Anyone that actually _cares_ about making XML into the format used
"for everything" needs to start by creating DTDs for /etc/inittab.xml,
/etc/resolv.conf.xml, and demonstrating via competent implementations
that they have a methodology to move things, service by service, to
use XML.
Anything less represents blathering around about something that will
never actually get implemented.
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@" "freenet.carleton.ca")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
STATED REASON DOES NOT COMPUTE WITH PROGRAMMED FACTS...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: DCE on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:20:11 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Charles Schwab would say:
>Anyone know if there is any effort going into a DCE port to Linux? The
>last thing I saw was the Redhat 5.0/5.1 port, but that code will not run
>at Redhat 6.0.
Do you have an application which really and truly needs DCE? If so,
then you probably will need to take the sources for DCE and hack them
into submission for use with newer versions of Linux.
With the amount of effort likely to be involved, I suspect it may be
wiser to seriously consider moving onwards to CORBA. The
organizations (e.g. - Sun, HP, Digital) that had established DCE have
moved their efforts to CORBA.
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "ntlug.org")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/corba.html>
Rules of the Evil Overlord #122. "The gun turrets on my fortress will
not rotate enough so that they may direct fire inward or at each
other. <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:20:15 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Gabe would say:
>I'm a new Linux user. The best thing about Windows is Internet
>Explorer, because frankly, Netscape sucks. It's slow, buggy, and
>doesn't display pages correctly.
>
>I need another option besides Lynx. Is there another browser I can
>use in X that comes highly recommended?
- The "fabled" Mozilla is _gradually_ stabilizing; it's "less slow,"
still somewhat buggy, and does a _reasonable_ job of rendition of
pages;
- I haven't tried the "fabled" Opera beta test browser lately; it
suffered _tremendously_ from instability;
- There are a number of browsers listed at the URL below; none are
likely to be _entirely_ satisfactory, but some may prove _somewhat_
useful to you...
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "hex.net")
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/webbrowsers.html>
"I owe the government $3400 in taxes. So I sent them two hammers and
a toilet seat." -- Michael McShane
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running without X
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:26:18 -0400
I want to upgrade to XFree86 4.01, am currently running RH6.2 with GNOME
1.2. I downloaded the binaries and the install instructions say I need
to run linux without X running to upgrade.
How can I get out of X without editing the ???? setup file and change to
run level 3?
Which set up file would I need to change to boot to run level 3?
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.games,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Indrema L600 Linux Console Info
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 02:25:13 GMT
Interview:
http://www.game-interviews.com/interviews/indrema.htm
Comments:
http://www.game-interviews.com/forums/comments/messages/10005.shtml
Hi,
Today we've got an interview with John Gildred, CEO and founder of
Indrema on their L600 Linux based console, its abilities, marketing
plans, and more.
Here's a snip:
Game-Interviews.com: At what audience is the L600 primarily aimed at?
Hardcore gamers? Casual gamers?
John Gildred: Hardcore gamers and Linux gamers/devotees.
GI: In the end the L600 will sell on the strength of its games, what
Indrema exclusive titles are in the works and what can you tell us
about them? Will there be a focus on exclusive titles rather than
enhanced ports?
JG: We plan to have a combination of mainstream, exclusive and popular
Linux titles available at launch. We will be announcing specifics at a
later date.
Thanks for reading and look out for John in the forums. He hasn't
promised to answer any questions but he's aware we're there and just
might drop by.
Derek Szeto
Editor-in-Chief, Game-Interviews.com
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Before you buy.
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Reply-To: "Scott B. Drummonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Scott B. Drummonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: named,httpd,sshd Aren't Started During Boot
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:36:27 -0700
Greetings, all,
I'm trying to figure out why named, httpd, and sshd daemons aren't starting
automatically when I boot my (Linux) system. My impression, from
convention, was that I need to create a script in /etc/rc.d/init.d and
create a S[0-9][0-9] symbolic link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc.[0-6]. I have done
exactly this for rc3.d/S72sshd, rc3.d/S85httpd, and rc3.d/S43named but none
of these services seem to be started when I cycle the power. Am I missing
something?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Free ISPs?
Date: 30 Aug 2000 01:36:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:50:34 -0400 Keith Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Are there any free ISPs that work with Linux? If so, please
>post URLs. I am looking for ISPs that can be reached from Philadelphia
>area w/o toll charges....
Well, www.dialfree.net is $19.99 per month, but with a $19.99 credit
if you fill out a survey.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running without X
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:51:54 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Schweikert wrote:
>
> I want to upgrade to XFree86 4.01, am currently running RH6.2 with GNOME
> 1.2. I downloaded the binaries and the install instructions say I need
> to run linux without X running to upgrade.
>
> How can I get out of X without editing the ???? setup file and change to
> run level 3?
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
>
> Which set up file would I need to change to boot to run level 3?
>
/etc/inittab
Change line id:5:initdefault: to id:3:initdefault:
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Don't waste your vote. Vote Green or don't vote at all.
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:46:10 -0500
Reply-To: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thanks, Cokey.
"su" IS how I make myself root if I'm already logged in as another userid.
The problem I encountered, with one machine, was that, once having made
myself root, I was still in the current directory of userid, and had to
change to /sbin to execute shutdown. I would have been surprised indeed if
userid had root privileges.
Bill Segraves
Auburn, AL
"Cokey de Percin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> >
> > "Peter Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
> > in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > ***snipped***>
> > > Another problem - unless you make changes (I've forgotten to
> > > which file, but it might be /etc/hosts.allow), you can't run
> > > halt, shutdown, reboot etc except from the keyboard. This
> > > includes running them from the serial terminal.
> > >
> > ***snipped***
> >
> > I thought I had the same problem. Found all I had to do was telenet to
the
> > machine, login with my userid, make myself root, cd to /sbin, and
execute,
> > e.g., shutdown -h now, in order to shut down the remote system.
> >
> > Bill Segraves
> > Auburn, AL
>
> Try 'su -' instead. This will cause the login to pick up the root
> environment and the pathing will be correct.
>
> Cokey
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cokey de Percin, DBA Email:
> Policy Management Systems Corp. Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Columbia, South Carolina Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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