Linux-Misc Digest #616, Volume #26               Sat, 23 Dec 00 10:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Old Dell Laptop (James Campbell Andrew)
  Re: Can someone explain DUMP? (Ron Grigg)
  Re: Mount /tmp in swap (Chris J/#6)
  Re: Can someone explain DUMP? (Paul Colquhoun)
  Re: suid root not working on RH7 2.2.16-22 ? (M. Buchenrieder)
  I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro ("Senyakhaz")
  Re: Old Dell Laptop (Stephen Bradly)
  Re: I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
  Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle? (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle? (Michael Heiming)
  Re: How to call 'stty' from inittab? ("Ray Allen")
  Re: how to detect when a CDROM is loaded? (Michael Heiming)
  Re: I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro (Michael Heiming)
  DVD software for Linux yet? ("tap")
  Re: Mount /tmp in swap (Harvey Taylor)
  Re: module net-pf-10 (Dirk Groeneveld)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Old Dell Laptop
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:12:47 +0000

I've recently been given an old Dell Latitude XPi laptop (Neomagic
graphics set), on which I've stuck Debian 2.2 - no problems there.

The main problem I'm having is one of dis-belief over the Video Ram - it
claims to have only 896k. Is this right? It seems a strange amount to
have.

(It used to have Windows 95 on it and I'm *fairly* sure it reported 2Mb
of Vram)

If it is the case that it does only have 896k, then I guess the best res
I can do is 800*600x8bit?

Any tips/pointers gratefully received.

Thanks,
Jim
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From: Ron Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can someone explain DUMP?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 03:37:44 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You don't  didn't give it  the right parameters so it doesn't
know what the length of your tape is and what density to use.
I know, this isn't clearly defined anywhere that I could find
either.  Any man pages I read just give defaults, but nothing
I could use to determine what parameters would work for
which tapes.  I had to experiment to get it where it would
work for me.  Something like:

dump 0cubdsf 96 108000 12000 /dev/nst0 /

should work for you but you will probably need to play with
it some to get it right.  Over estimating the density and size
will cause it hit the end of the tape when full, which was okay
with me.  Instead, I look at the amount of data to be backed up
and calcualte how much I've put on the tape already.  It's hit
and miss but it works.

Note the /dev/nst0 (you have /dev/st0)  in my command.
It will create a 0-level dump archive of the / paritition and
then stop (doesn't rewind the tape).

I do like using dump for tape backups.  It's tried and true,
does an inode level backup, can be used to do incrementals,
and can be set up w/ scripts and run from cron jobs.  Being
able to restore single files/directories is a plus, too.

Regards,
Ron

WORLOK wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> I have always used TAR to do tape backups, and decided to try DUMP.
> Every fs should fit on my tape, which is 4mm DAT DDS2 120m.  I started
> with my root partition, which is small, and I cannot understand the
> output.  It seems it ran out of tape?  It was only running for a few
> seconds.  Can anyone explain why it prompted for the second tape so
> quickly??
>
> Output:
>
> # /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/st0 /
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Dec 23 00:31:28 2000
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda5 (/) to /dev/st0
>   DUMP: Label: none
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
>   DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
>   DUMP: estimated 257745 tape blocks on 6.63 tape(s).
>   DUMP: Volume 1 started at: Sat Dec 23 00:31:31 2000
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
>   DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
>   DUMP: Closing /dev/st0
>   DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Sat Dec 23 00:33:04 2000
>   DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:01:33
>   DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 412 KB/s
>   DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
>   DUMP: Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no") no
>   DUMP: Do you want to abort?: ("yes" or "no") yes
>   DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
>
> This is my disk:
>
> $ df -m
> Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda5                  289       235        39  86% /
> /dev/hda7                 3397       794      2430  25% /home
> /dev/hda6                 3999      2581      1215  68% /usr
>
> ------------------
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
> --
> ================================
> Viva Linux!! Viva La Revoluti�n!
> ================================
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Subject: Re: Mount /tmp in swap
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Dec 2000 09:41:39 -0000

Robert Kiesling  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I don't think that's unique to tmpfs.  It appears that the swap
>partition in Solaris 7 at least, has a swap signature, like Linux, and
>the swap partition is mounted on /tmp, whether tmpfs or ufs/swap.  In
>addition, one of the partitions of any volume is reserved as 'backup',
>I think, though it could be swap space as well.
>

The 'backup' partition is usually the third partition on a disk and covers
the entire disk (eg, cylinder zero to the last cylinder). Its purpose I've
never quite known as I've not had a need for it :) But it's not just Solaris
that has this. OSF/1 (aka Digital UNIX, now Tru64 UNIX) also kept the third
partition so it covered the entire disk.

Chris...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: Can someone explain DUMP?
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:17:11 GMT

On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 07:31:04 GMT, WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hi,
|
|I have always used TAR to do tape backups, and decided to try DUMP.
|Every fs should fit on my tape, which is 4mm DAT DDS2 120m.  I started
|with my root partition, which is small, and I cannot understand the
|output.  It seems it ran out of tape?  It was only running for a few
|seconds.  Can anyone explain why it prompted for the second tape so
|quickly??
|
|Output:
|
|# /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/st0 /
|  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Dec 23 00:31:28 2000
|  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
|  DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda5 (/) to /dev/st0
|  DUMP: Label: none
|  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
|  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
|  DUMP: estimated 257745 tape blocks on 6.63 tape(s).
|  DUMP: Volume 1 started at: Sat Dec 23 00:31:31 2000
|  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
|  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
|  DUMP: Closing /dev/st0
|  DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Sat Dec 23 00:33:04 2000
|  DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:01:33
|  DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 412 KB/s
|  DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
|  DUMP: Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no") no
|  DUMP: Do you want to abort?: ("yes" or "no") yes
|  DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
|
|This is my disk:
|
|$ df -m
|Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
|/dev/hda5                  289       235        39  86% /
|/dev/hda7                 3397       794      2430  25% /home
|/dev/hda6                 3999      2581      1215  68% /usr


They seem to have done a 'bug for bug' rewite of the normal Unix dump.

dump assumes some ancient tape hardware that holds about 40 Mb.

Fortunately they have added a very useful option. 'man dump' says that
you should use:

   dump -0u -a -f /dev/st0 /

The '-a' option says to keep writing until dump gets an 'end of tape'
error.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: suid root not working on RH7 2.2.16-22 ?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:16:16 GMT

Danny Aldham1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have a couple of RH boxes we have upgraded to RH7, 2.2.16-22 .
>It seems that suid root scripts no longer act as root. Am I missing
>something here? Is this standard release now, and if so, how do I put 
>it back to normal functioning?

SetUID scripts have never worked that way, as the Linux
kernel ignores the setUID bit on non setUID-aware shells, anyways.
Either your former setup included wrappers to call the scripts,
or you have been using "sudo" for it.

Michael
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From: "Senyakhaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 10:59:37 -0000

Hi....
I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro to download web
pages into hard disk...
I tried Wget but is not want i looking for.
Wget retrieves the web pages but have problems with the link's..
If you tried Teleport Pro you know what I mean...
Thankx



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From: Stephen Bradly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Old Dell Laptop
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:56:24 +0000

James Campbell Andrew wrote:
> 
> I've recently been given an old Dell Latitude XPi laptop (Neomagic
> graphics set), on which I've stuck Debian 2.2 - no problems there.
> 
> The main problem I'm having is one of dis-belief over the Video Ram - it
> claims to have only 896k. Is this right? It seems a strange amount to
> have.

If memory serves me rightly some of the old XPi's did indeed have a
weird amount of Video RAM.

> (It used to have Windows 95 on it and I'm *fairly* sure it reported 2Mb
> of Vram)
> 
> If it is the case that it does only have 896k, then I guess the best res
> I can do is 800*600x8bit?

Sorry, too hungover to think about the calculation right at this
moment.. %-o

Have a happy Christmas

Regards

Stephen

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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:14:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Senyakhaz wrote:

> Hi....
> I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro to download web
> pages into hard disk...
> I tried Wget but is not want i looking for.
> Wget retrieves the web pages but have problems with the link's..
> If you tried Teleport Pro you know what I mean...
> Thankx
> 
> 
> 

There is a nice piece of software here: www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo. For me 
it works almost fine.

Hope it helps

Ralph Miguel Hansen
Auf der Donau 29
45139 Essen

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:19:44 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle?

Hallo,

you could better use bzip2/bunzip which has far better compression rate
than gzip.

But you can't use it direct from tar like gzip, [-z] . Perhaps future
version of tar will have it,
or I could use these few free days and do it on my own, looks like there
is no -b2 option.....:-))

Good luck

Michael Heiming

Dragan Colak wrote:

> Dave Brown wrote:
>
> > In article <9202lg$31i5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dragan Colak wrote:
> > >I'm trying to zip a 5 GByte *.tar file with "gzip filename.tar".
> > >As a result I get an error message that says
> > >"Value too large for defined data type" and no compressed
> > >file.
> > >What is the maximum file size gzip can handle?
> >
> > Hmm.. I thought Linux (32-bit) was limited to a 2GB file size.  Where
> > is this 5 GB file located?
> >
> > Well, at any rate, how about streaming it through gzip:
> >
> >   cat bigfile | gzip > compressed_bigfile
> >
> >
>
> I archived my users home directory. "ls -h" tells me it has 5.1 GByte.
> When I tar it ls tells me I got a *.tar file with 5.0 GByte. The file
> system doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I can mv it around,
> e.g. to a nfs directory to copy it to another machine. When I mount
> the nfs directory from another computer and try to copy the file to
> the local file system it chancels at about 1 GByte. I tried it several
> times, always with the same result.
>
> I'm using SuSE Linux 7.0 Pro (2.2.16) right out of the box.
>
> Dragan




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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:29:21 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle?

Hello,

you could better use bzip2/bunzip which has far better compression rate
than gzip.

But you can't use it direct from tar like gzip, [-z] . Perhaps future
version of tar will have it,
or I could use these few free days and do it on my own, looks like there
is no -b2 option.....:-))

ls -h? I didn't know that ls would show you the size of an directory with
his contents,
I always use du -sh /blah to determine this in human readable form. ls -lh
always shows 4.0k for
a directory, depends on the inode size you build your file ext2
filesystem....

Good luck

Michael Heiming


Dragan Colak wrote:

> Dave Brown wrote:
>
> > In article <9202lg$31i5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dragan Colak wrote:
> > >I'm trying to zip a 5 GByte *.tar file with "gzip filename.tar".
> > >As a result I get an error message that says
> > >"Value too large for defined data type" and no compressed
> > >file.
> > >What is the maximum file size gzip can handle?
> >
> > Hmm.. I thought Linux (32-bit) was limited to a 2GB file size.  Where
> > is this 5 GB file located?
> >
> > Well, at any rate, how about streaming it through gzip:
> >
> >   cat bigfile | gzip > compressed_bigfile
> >
> >
>
> I archived my users home directory. "ls -h" tells me it has 5.1 GByte.
> When I tar it ls tells me I got a *.tar file with 5.0 GByte. The file
> system doesn't seem to have a problem with it, I can mv it around,
> e.g. to a nfs directory to copy it to another machine. When I mount
> the nfs directory from another computer and try to copy the file to
> the local file system it chancels at about 1 GByte. I tried it several
> times, always with the same result.
>
> I'm using SuSE Linux 7.0 Pro (2.2.16) right out of the box.
>
> Dragan




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From: "Ray Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to call 'stty' from inittab?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:39:12 GMT

Larry,

Are you using a standard serial cable or a null modem cable?  I've been
trying to do the same connection without any luck.

--Ray Allen

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message

> Are you trying to connect to your Linux Box via Serial Cable?





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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:50:37 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to detect when a CDROM is loaded?

Hello,

I don't know why you would need that? Before you change a CD you have to leave
every wd below /cdrom or whatever
yours is called and umount that thing, or you will not be able to open it....

You have to mount the new one, that way you could call a script, say mymount,
which
contains your stuff and:

mount -t iso9660 /dev/<your_CD-ROM> /cdrom

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:34:55 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro

Senyakhaz wrote:

> Hi....
> I want to know if there's any program like Teleport Pro to download web
> pages into hard disk...
> I tried Wget but is not want i looking for.
> Wget retrieves the web pages but have problems with the link's..
> If you tried Teleport Pro you know what I mean...
> Thankx

Hello,

I haven't heard anything about Teleport Pro, I always use w3mir, it's CLI
only, but rather simple (man w3mir),
it comes with some distros per default installed.

Good luck

Michael Heiming



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From: "tap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 05:27:55 -0900

Is there a software player for Linux yet like PowerDVD 3 for windows?
PowerDVD 3 for Linux would be nice...

thanks in advance



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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:57:13 -0800
From: Harvey Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mount /tmp in swap

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) Matt Graham wrote:
> 
>[...] 
> AIX is Unix, according to IBM, and you know the old joke about AIX,
> Unix, and space aliens, right?
> 

        No. 
        Pray do tell.

<l8r>
-het


-- 
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: module net-pf-10
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:57:54 +0100

Markus Kossmann wrote:
> Dirk Groeneveld wrote:
> > My non-stistribution linux complains about a missing module called
> > net-pf-10 when booting. I grepped the whole kernel 2.2.17 tree for
> > net-pf-10 but couldn't find anything. What's up with it?
> net-pf-10 is ipv6 .
> If you don't need it disable it in /etc/modules.conf wit
> alias net-pf-10           off
 
Thank you so far ... how do you know that? I mean, how could I find out 
myself what weird module names stand for? There has to be some kind of 
documentation...

Dirk

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